While the issue of reliability of news gathered by bloggers and user-submitted & edited articles (you know what I'm talking about) remains a debated issue, I think this movement that's occurring might be a well-deserved reprieve towards the increasingly rampant and unchecked editorializing of the news. Early in the 20th century, printed media was now a tool of the people, and amateur journalism was the result. While I'm critical of web 2.0, this movement might be the beginning of something good.
As he says himself a lot of what he says at the start is fairly well known about the benefits of Web 2.0, but I thought the downsides he mentioned in the "circular mill" example very throught provoking and struck home to me as a real risk.
You can't take money out of the ecuation. Youtube and Blogger aren't free - someone still pays for the hosting, the administration, the constant maintenance, etc.
The process is invisible to the end-users and the content-creators, but the "open source" experience would be impossible without money.
So basically ideas that thrive on the web--that are getting choosen by a large number of people--have strenghs and weaknesses. some of them thrive because they're good, and some of them thrive because they're alarmist or have an evil advantage. It's hard to pull off from these ideas--they infect us no matter what.
indeed most memeticists refer to some ideas or memes as being dangerous 'mind viruses' and other as being rather useful or symbiotic for the host.
hm again. the dark side of trends on the web... well that's memetics too! basically he'S saying: crowds are good at finding new ideas. that means basically trends are good. and then he says well trends have a dark side--there's also bad sometimes, because it becomes a trend and people don'T think by themselves. this totally makes sense with memetics. we teamed up with memes because it'S overall useful, and indeed most trends are useful. but not all--sometimes we better think by ourselves.
hm. that masses be better at finding things than individuals, that's interesting. I think it's a matter of natural selection. since ideas are memes, then finding good ideas is not necessarly a matter of 'being more inventive' individually but rather a matter of having a larger amount of propositions and a larger number of minds that will select these larger number of ideas. it's basically speeding up the natural selection process in other words. and that can,sometimes, better thatn 1 specialist.
TED poster. Please! I love your TED posts! TED talks are great. Do us all a favor. Learn character count! WTF is "James Surowiecki: The moment when social media became the ne" ne? Ne? WTF? I mean, really! This is a great video. LEARN the process, DH! Learn how to make a friggin title! This is not your first day on YouTube! How can TED be so smart and yet so STUPID! EVOLVE! LEARN! ADAPT! Come On! Some Effort here! I link to you! Stop looking like a noob! Think about your title! DUH!
yeah, it's pure laziness on the TED posters part but it's just not a big deal. their actual website displays the whole title with the 2 remaining characters: WS :)
i think people have an inate desire to share themselves with each other. we teach each other and learn from each other because that is the type of animals we are. people who blog do so in order to share themselves with each other. they do it for the same reason that you tell your friends personal stories about yourself. it is human nature.
Many farmers and people living surrounded by animals were clever enough to get out when they saw all the animals freaking out and get away. Humans are capable of many things but we have no way of sensing natural disaster without instruments.
He could have made his point without showing an old couple actually getting killed ffs I'd rather not have seen that.
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LillianColwynnscehy 2 years ago
While the issue of reliability of news gathered by bloggers and user-submitted & edited articles (you know what I'm talking about) remains a debated issue, I think this movement that's occurring might be a well-deserved reprieve towards the increasingly rampant and unchecked editorializing of the news. Early in the 20th century, printed media was now a tool of the people, and amateur journalism was the result. While I'm critical of web 2.0, this movement might be the beginning of something good.
sisyphusorianus9787 3 years ago 2
As he says himself a lot of what he says at the start is fairly well known about the benefits of Web 2.0, but I thought the downsides he mentioned in the "circular mill" example very throught provoking and struck home to me as a real risk.
SpyMapper 3 years ago
wasn't very interesting.. nothing new?
ki6eki 3 years ago
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ImmortalDust 3 years ago
You can't take money out of the ecuation. Youtube and Blogger aren't free - someone still pays for the hosting, the administration, the constant maintenance, etc.
The process is invisible to the end-users and the content-creators, but the "open source" experience would be impossible without money.
TatalVost 3 years ago
free as in freedom! not as in no money...you make a mistake common by those unfamiliar with the movement.
redbose 3 years ago
So basically ideas that thrive on the web--that are getting choosen by a large number of people--have strenghs and weaknesses. some of them thrive because they're good, and some of them thrive because they're alarmist or have an evil advantage. It's hard to pull off from these ideas--they infect us no matter what.
indeed most memeticists refer to some ideas or memes as being dangerous 'mind viruses' and other as being rather useful or symbiotic for the host.
so yep. makes sense so far.
Animalll2003lll 3 years ago
hm again. the dark side of trends on the web... well that's memetics too! basically he'S saying: crowds are good at finding new ideas. that means basically trends are good. and then he says well trends have a dark side--there's also bad sometimes, because it becomes a trend and people don'T think by themselves. this totally makes sense with memetics. we teamed up with memes because it'S overall useful, and indeed most trends are useful. but not all--sometimes we better think by ourselves.
Animalll2003lll 3 years ago 2
hm. that masses be better at finding things than individuals, that's interesting. I think it's a matter of natural selection. since ideas are memes, then finding good ideas is not necessarly a matter of 'being more inventive' individually but rather a matter of having a larger amount of propositions and a larger number of minds that will select these larger number of ideas. it's basically speeding up the natural selection process in other words. and that can,sometimes, better thatn 1 specialist.
Animalll2003lll 3 years ago
hahahaha thumbs down dude .(
Animalll2003lll 3 years ago
harryogre 3 years ago
relax lol there's a character limit for titles
alphaG0d 3 years ago
That's my point.
Did you read my post or just skim it?
TED has been doing this for a while. They need to learn the process.
Try reading posts before commenting.
harryogre 3 years ago
yeah, it's pure laziness on the TED posters part but it's just not a big deal. their actual website displays the whole title with the 2 remaining characters: WS :)
alphaG0d 3 years ago
and what was the point of telling us all of this???? the people were TOLD of the wave coming... did they believe it?? no!
velvetpaws999 3 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Funny how he talked about all the problems but didn't discuss any possible solutions.
Now GIMME THAT THUMBS-UP!!!!
chanerth 3 years ago
Heh, it's not so easy.
ehsanul 3 years ago 2
Talk about the problem first, then find a solution.
00AgentMan 3 years ago
Hive mind - stronger together than they are apart, however, nothing without all of its/their parts.
C13XIII 3 years ago
xoxxox in your mouth
RexNunc 3 years ago
WE make the NEWS from NOW ON!
It'd be SO MUCH better than the crap we are fed by mainstream.
idasputem 3 years ago 7
it is not pronounced "fie fie" ; it is pronounced "pee pee" and "poo-ket" and not "fooket". im just sayin'.
lt6666 3 years ago
Its pronounced PUK-ET to OUT-pedant you, but it's HARDLY the point!
idasputem 3 years ago
Might be a good idea to help other people from getting lost.
bitRAKE 3 years ago
Nice reflections on both the positive and negative aspects of being hyper-connected...
Most notable is the progression of the open-source model to other aspects of our lives...
Made me think.. will there be a day when this model becomes the default.. and FOSS projects be cited as its ancestors..?
kapaka12 3 years ago 2
i think people have an inate desire to share themselves with each other. we teach each other and learn from each other because that is the type of animals we are. people who blog do so in order to share themselves with each other. they do it for the same reason that you tell your friends personal stories about yourself. it is human nature.
greycloud24 3 years ago 7
Many farmers and people living surrounded by animals were clever enough to get out when they saw all the animals freaking out and get away. Humans are capable of many things but we have no way of sensing natural disaster without instruments.
stevenaudet 3 years ago 2
Hehe, never do as the ant in front of you does! You'll end up in circles! XD
Great lecture! ;)
Thymonico 3 years ago