I said your comment was moronic, i.e. "Is it near hogwash?" This does not necessarily apply to yourself. There are a number of alternatives which I am sure you and many other people are aware of. However, living in apartment blocks up to 25 levels high is not a very desirable way for the masses as you call them to live. The majority of people coming to Australia are trying to get away from the horrors of overcrowded cities and sub-standard accommodation, not be faced with the problem again.
I don't mean to be negative . I suggest that an alternative could be small sustainable communities.
However I'm not sure that people are looking for this , Having more is a a major lure to people, the hope of earning bigger incomes.
Urban development has been around for a long time, The first urban developments of mesopotamia ( the oldest known ) had people living in cities where trading and markets worked.
Sydney's urban sprawl has practically wiped out what is left of the Cumberland Plain Woodland ecology. Further land release on the suburban fringe in the South West, West and North West will destroy the majority of what unprotected bush areas are left, e.g. former ADI site at St. Mary's. The same has occurred in Melbourne where a large area of untouched and rare grasslands on former RAAF land has recently been given over to a sprawling development of detached dwellings. Sprawl kills bushland!
The problem is the people who legislate building code, recieve information on products supplied to the building industry by the manafacturers and distibutors of the product. This world wide mafia type approach to the building industry makes me sick to the stomach.I live now near Vienna in Austria and it is all organised the same way. The building magnates own the products the building industry uses. Supply the industry then cream it all with land sales than leave us all in the lurch afterwards
makes me think that reusable energy should be a manditory solution with new housing developements! a small saving on the environment by each unit, but added up, it does make an effect on a whole population, such as sydney. what do you think? ben.
Reusable or alternative energy is certainly worthwhile considering. However, experience indicates that apartment developers are primarily interested in maximising their profits while leaving others (the public) to pay the real cost of inadequate or outdated infrastructure, i.e. coal fired power stations, clogged roads and crowded public transport. The NSW State Government, the Department of Planning and the RTA seem quite happy for this to continue.
I agree with you, I am a young bloke, it makes me sick and it even makes me depresed sometimes knowing that I will never be able to own a house(except my inheritance) all I want to do is move out and buy somewhere nice to live I am sick of living at home, with the money I have saved up I would already have payed off half the price of a house if housing was still AFFORDABLE,
it only took my parents a couple of years to pay off this house in a nice average middle/working class suburb with my dad having an average income, Yet if I wanted to buy a similar house it would take my whole life to pay it off,
I think they should relase all the land surrounding Sydney/Central Coast,
I also think we need some good strong social policies like Taxing the hell out of people who want to buy a second property/investment property other than the property they live in
so to prevent gready people from forcing up the value and making it harder for average people to own their own house.
And you are 100 percent correct there is absolutely NO shortage of land in this country we are one of the biggest countries in the world with a relatively small population, so this shortage of land argument is utter bullshit
Great youve taken time to record these comments. Property speculation has spread like a disease over the past 20 years. Now every man & his dog is involved in negative gearing, which pushes prices up, & forces people to become life-long renters because they can't afford inflated housing prices. It creates a vicious circle; & the argument that subsidised investment leads to more rental properties is a joke! In addition, those that pay the full rate of tax are forced to subsidise this nonsense.
Urban densification is not the answer nor is releasing more land and continuing urban sprawl.
The only other answer is population control. I.E. Stop building more housing altogether and thus preventing more people settling in already overcroweded subrubs.
plain to see we umans like to live in cities. : )
Could you suggest one alternative for the masses ?
Is it near hogwash ?
kramd1 2 years ago
No it is not. But your moronic comment is.
Wildhiland 2 years ago
ok name caller , suggest an alternative ?
You migrate here and complain about fairness. So what do you suggest. You offer no alternative, just complaint.
kramd1 2 years ago
I said your comment was moronic, i.e. "Is it near hogwash?" This does not necessarily apply to yourself. There are a number of alternatives which I am sure you and many other people are aware of. However, living in apartment blocks up to 25 levels high is not a very desirable way for the masses as you call them to live. The majority of people coming to Australia are trying to get away from the horrors of overcrowded cities and sub-standard accommodation, not be faced with the problem again.
Wildhiland 2 years ago
I don't mean to be negative . I suggest that an alternative could be small sustainable communities.
However I'm not sure that people are looking for this , Having more is a a major lure to people, the hope of earning bigger incomes.
Urban development has been around for a long time, The first urban developments of mesopotamia ( the oldest known ) had people living in cities where trading and markets worked.
kramd1 2 years ago
Sydney's urban sprawl has practically wiped out what is left of the Cumberland Plain Woodland ecology. Further land release on the suburban fringe in the South West, West and North West will destroy the majority of what unprotected bush areas are left, e.g. former ADI site at St. Mary's. The same has occurred in Melbourne where a large area of untouched and rare grasslands on former RAAF land has recently been given over to a sprawling development of detached dwellings. Sprawl kills bushland!
3DegreeSydney 3 years ago
The problem is the people who legislate building code, recieve information on products supplied to the building industry by the manafacturers and distibutors of the product. This world wide mafia type approach to the building industry makes me sick to the stomach.I live now near Vienna in Austria and it is all organised the same way. The building magnates own the products the building industry uses. Supply the industry then cream it all with land sales than leave us all in the lurch afterwards
benaurelius 3 years ago
makes me think that reusable energy should be a manditory solution with new housing developements! a small saving on the environment by each unit, but added up, it does make an effect on a whole population, such as sydney. what do you think? ben.
benzone50 4 years ago
Reusable or alternative energy is certainly worthwhile considering. However, experience indicates that apartment developers are primarily interested in maximising their profits while leaving others (the public) to pay the real cost of inadequate or outdated infrastructure, i.e. coal fired power stations, clogged roads and crowded public transport. The NSW State Government, the Department of Planning and the RTA seem quite happy for this to continue.
Wildhiland 3 years ago
1.
I agree with you, I am a young bloke, it makes me sick and it even makes me depresed sometimes knowing that I will never be able to own a house(except my inheritance) all I want to do is move out and buy somewhere nice to live I am sick of living at home, with the money I have saved up I would already have payed off half the price of a house if housing was still AFFORDABLE,
Steven2690 3 years ago
2.
it only took my parents a couple of years to pay off this house in a nice average middle/working class suburb with my dad having an average income, Yet if I wanted to buy a similar house it would take my whole life to pay it off,
I think they should relase all the land surrounding Sydney/Central Coast,
I also think we need some good strong social policies like Taxing the hell out of people who want to buy a second property/investment property other than the property they live in
Steven2690 3 years ago
3.
so to prevent gready people from forcing up the value and making it harder for average people to own their own house.
And you are 100 percent correct there is absolutely NO shortage of land in this country we are one of the biggest countries in the world with a relatively small population, so this shortage of land argument is utter bullshit
Steven2690 3 years ago
Great youve taken time to record these comments. Property speculation has spread like a disease over the past 20 years. Now every man & his dog is involved in negative gearing, which pushes prices up, & forces people to become life-long renters because they can't afford inflated housing prices. It creates a vicious circle; & the argument that subsidised investment leads to more rental properties is a joke! In addition, those that pay the full rate of tax are forced to subsidise this nonsense.
Wildhiland 3 years ago
Urban densification is not the answer nor is releasing more land and continuing urban sprawl.
The only other answer is population control. I.E. Stop building more housing altogether and thus preventing more people settling in already overcroweded subrubs.
EnviroWarrior10 4 years ago
The population issue also needs to be considered. Australia needs to have a sustainable population policy at the Federal Government level.
Wildhiland 4 years ago
It's not the population which is the problem it's government and corporate greed.
neuronalert 4 years ago