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  • In the NT, Mark, Matthew and Luke imply Jesus was tied to the cross, not nailed. And John never mentions nails through the feet, only the hand. Of course, that stab wound is a problem, but at least the author of John realised that the other three potentially left Jesus ALIVE when he was laid in the tomb. No death, ergo, no resurrection.

  • New Testament apocrypha

    Syriac Infancy Gospel : Jesus(PBUH) speaking as a baby

    Infancy Gospel of Thomas : Breathes life into birds fashioned from clay

    who decides which writings should be regarded as "canonical" and which are "apocryphal" ?

    and How ?

  • Go to LES FELDICK on the website. Listen as he goes through the bible. I recommend the audio part. All free.. He will teach you what you have problems in understanding. Very good. Some christians cannot even understand many things. I recommend it for them too. Perry Stone another good preacher on Utube. Free again. Also see the utube on the buddist monk who experienced hell. Another eye opener. God does it all, have to believe Jesus is the word made flesh.

  • I use to think that the moslem explanation that Christ didn't die was correct. That was because I didn't really understand the bible and skipped through it. BUT, let me tell you the old testament reveals all the blood sacrifices that were needed to take away sin, without this it could not be taken away. The old testament testifies to fortell the perfect sacrifice by our savior. Jesus said I lay down my life, no one takes it. He was the perfect man, hence his blood paid for our sin debt.

  • @TheLionessjudah How can blood pay for sin? So God will only forgive in return for blood? Blood lust comes to mind. Not trying to insult, just trying to understand.

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    3

    Qur`anic example:

    3:24 This because they say: "The Fire shall not touch us but for a few numbered days": For their forgeries deceive them as to their own religion. (muslimaccessDOTcom)

    [3:24] This is because they said, "The hellfire will not touch us, except for a few days." They were thus deceived in their religion by their own fabrications. (SubmissionDOTorg)

    (So if the evidence thats is dialect only then likewise the qur`an is corrupt)

  • @FeignofCordor

    2

    Biblical example:

    Matt 24:2 (ESV)

    But he answered them, “You see all these, do you not? Truly, I say to you, there will not be left here one stone upon another that will not be thrown down.”

    mATT 24:2 (KJ)

    And Jesus said unto them, See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.

    (Different Dialect same message,Not corrupted therefore)

  • @FeignofCordor

    1 You failed to show any evidence of corruption of the Bible as I new you would as there is no such evidence out there. My Bible is no different to the KJV Bible the difference you are talking about is only in the dialect the verses are the same. The same message . Incidentally do you know that there is different qur`ans ? Well there are and like the Bible they differ with dialect so is the qur`an corrupt also?

  • @FeignofCordor Wiki states that there are many Bibles; KJV, NKJV, NIV, RC, ESV, etc. Wiki states, that between 2 different completed Bibles, the difference can be of up to 18 books. 18 book difference, is not the same, or some translation differences, or some dialect difference. Did you know, to make a new Bible, enough has to be changed for it to be given a copyright. & now imagine the number of Bibles.

  • @t6658 Do you know that Begotten simply means "To be born" so in the whole verse what is this huge difference you talk of between beloved son and begotten son? also not for a minute do I believe that the differences in wording between those Bibles completes 18 books. The differences in the words used in the Bible do not mislead or corrupt the verses.

    You should know that there are many different qurans that use different words to translate verses so what now?

  • @FeignofCordor According to the thefreedictionary online, the word begotten means,

    (of offspring) generated by procreation; "naturally begotten child"

    biological - of parents and children; related by blood; "biological child"

    So big difference between begotten & beloved, or one & only. BIG DIFFERENCE

    To say God begot a son, is a huge insult in Islam. How can you say, God naturally had off-spring?

  • @t6658

    "naturally begotten child" You added the word naturally. Jesus was not born naturally Mary was impregnated by the Holy Spirit.

    You typed " To say God begot a son, is a huge insult in Islam. " ....Really? The gospels are older than your quran by 600 years so I guess your going to have to be hugely insulted.

    The Quran`s denial of Christs death and resurrection is a Huge insult to Christ.

  • @FeignofCordor I didn't add anything, I merely gave you a quote from thefreedictionary. Yes, to say God had a natural son, is a huge insult to Jews & Muslims. The Jewish OT came before the NT, & in Numbers 23:19, it says ''God is not a man, that he should lie, nor a son of man, that he should change his mind. Does he speak and then not act? Does he promise and not fulfill?''....

  • @FeignofCordor ...Also, reading the NIV Bible footnotes, will show you how sure Christians are of the authenticity of the Bible. I can provide you with these in PM if you like. I have also uploaded a vid showing how an ancient Bible, contradicts modern Christianity. How can Christianity be the right religion, when it can't even decide if Jesus was begotten, or beloved, or one & only, plus the other mistranslations I have mentioned earlier

  • @FeignofCordor Some of the fundamentals of Christianity, are debatable, like the word Trintiy never making an appearance, or a Trinity describing verse, being removed from the RSV Bible as a fabrication. Or how Jesus, never says ''I am God'', or ''Worship me'', in fact he hates this idea, according to the Bible. Also the Bible is not even believed to be the word of God, by Christians, as it is written by witnesses, not God, or Jesus, or even Mary.

  • @t6658

    That is possibly the weakest argument against the Trinity that a muslim can give. So because a word used to describe the Doctrine of the Trinity is not found in the Bible it must be false? The word Trinity can not be found but the Doctrine of the Trinity can and so?

    Apply the same argument to your quran. You believe in the 5 pillars of islam yet the words "5 pillars" can`t be found in your quran. So then is the 5 pillars false?

    Jesus made clear claims that only God could make.

  • @FeignofCordor I gave you the other argument, which was that the RSV removes a Trinity describing verse as a fabrication. Plus the 5 pillars are in Hadith. Fact is that people argue against Christianity being a Monotheist religion due to it's belief in a trident God.

  • @t6658

    The "5 pillars" isn`t mentioned in your quran so by your standards the 5 pillars must be false.Why are you not accepting that i`m right about this? 

  • @FeignofCordor Did you not understand when I said, the 5 pillars are in Hadith?

  • @FeignofCordor Or how even his death & resurrection is debatable, like how he eats honey comb & royal fish, despite being a spirit, or how he asks to be felt as an alleged spirt, but to prove what? His disciples, after seeing him, could not believe he was a spirit, but why? His disciples had seen people turned into pigs, & spirits before, but could not believe Jesus was one. Why?

  • @t6658

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    Jesus dying and rising from his tomb was testified in writing by Apostles who witnessed these events. If these events did not happen why then did the Apostles willingly accept torture and death because they refused to deny The Christ and refused to stop teaching the Gospels? Surely if the Gospels were not true they would have not suffered and willingly go to their deaths for a lie. But 11 out of the 12 Apostles were brutally tortured and killed for what they knew was true.( continued)

  • @FeignofCordor

    2/

    The Apostles witnessed Jesus expel demons from the man and cast them into the pigs.. At no point did Jesus turn people into pigs or spirits.

    Also Jesus was not a spirit nor does the Gospels call him a spirit. Jesus was both fully man and God and so he ate and drank with his fellow men.

    Philippians 2:8

    And being found in appearance as a man, he humbled himself and became obedient to death--even death on a cross!

  • @FeignofCordor Does that mean God needs to eat & drink?

  • @FeignofCordor I thought that according to the Bibles, ALL of Jesus' disciples were not there to witness the crucifixion, & that it was only Mary magdalene, who saw Jesus alive at the tomb. ''refused to deny Christ'' I don't get that, because even in Islam Jesus was Christ, & I am not trying to disprove this. We also don't doubt the authenticity of the Gospels held by Jesus & his disciples. My questions are still unanswered...

  • @t6658

    Again your questions show me that you haven`t read the Bible so you don`t know what your talking about. Only John,Mary and Magdalene witnessed the crucifixion the rest fled in fear.

    You doubt the Gospels we have now, Despite all the evidence showing that we hold the true Gospels. and no evidence to prove they was corrupted. but don`t worry Jesus says those who deny me I shall deny them when the stand before me.

    I have answered all but one of your questions so stop your dishonesty

  • @FeignofCordor ''I haven't read the Bible'', everything I have quoted you, is correct. You are yet to tell me, I have misquoted. You can say I misinterpreted the verse, but you have no right to say I have misquoted. Every Bible quotation I get, I get from an online Christian Bible website, so not to be biased. How can I have not read the Bible, when I am accurately quoting you from it.

  • @FeignofCordor I'm just repeating what Christians tell me. They say, Jesus was God as a man, then after he died, he came back as a spirit. It is not my fault that according to wiki, there are many Bibles, with 2 completed Bibles having a difference of 18 books, & that according to wiki, there are some 38,000 different Christian sects. They are bound to differ in opinion. 1 says Jesus was resurrected as a spirit, another says he was never a spirit.

  • @FeignofCordor ''all but 1 question''

    1) Why did Jesus ask to be felt after his alleged crucifixion? To prove what?

    2) Why did the disciples refuse to believe?

    3) Why does a dead body need to eat, or hide, or fear the living?

    3) Why does your God, condemn his followers only, in Matthew 7:22-23 & in Matthew 19:16-17?

    4) Why does your God say he is not a man in Numbers 23:19, then come as a man?

  • @FeignofCordor ...Why do your translators make huge deliberate mistakes, like changing 'young women', into 'virgin', or turning 'vagina', into 'naval'-Christian references on request

    Why can your Bibles not agree whether to right begotten, beloved, or one & only? All meaning completely different things.

  • @FeignofCordor ...More questions to ponder over

    1) Why does your God, claim to be only for the Jew in Matthew 15:22-27?

    Why is your God powerless in John 5:30?

    Today, we know, from latest studies, that alcohol is dangerous & harmful on any level, the OT also forbids it, so why does your God encourage & discourage it? Is he unsure? Or are you going to tell me, some Christians believe it is alcoholic wine, whilst others say it wasn't?

  • @FeignofCordor Did you also know, a lot of reference to Islam, is made in the Bible. Including 2 different names of Muhammad (PBUH), being mentioned in the Bible, as well as Muhammad's (PBUH) first miracle, which does not match any other person in the Bible. Also Jesus prayed like a Muslim, Moses & Aaron did ablution just like the Muslims in EXODUS 40:31-32, Jesus was circumcised just like Jews & Muslims but unlike Christians, Jesus didn't eat pig like the Muslims & Jews but unlike Christians...

  • @t6658

    I hate to tell you this mate but your assertions are old and have been refuted to death many times over the years..

    None of the stuff you make claims about in my Bible is true. Not a single one of them. Mohammed is not named in the Bible, Apostle warns Christians against false Gospels thats the nearest we get to islam in the Bible. Jesus didn`t pray like a muslim. Mohammed never performed a miracle and it definitely wasn`t mentioned in the Bible.

  • @FeignofCordor Muhammad (PBUH) is mentioned in your Bible, by name in the Hebrew translation of Song Of Solomon Chapter 5 Verse 16. Since I cannot post links here, I have sent them to you through PM. Anyone else that wants to see them, just ask. They are Christian links.

  • @FeignofCordor The first Christian link I sent you, insists the word is ''Machmad'', which the website claims is a singular of Machmaddim. The website states this means the praised one or the one worthy of praise. So a bit like Ahmad, 1 of the 5 names of Muhammad (PBUH).

  • @FeignofCordor ...“I have five names, I am Muhammad, I am Ahmad, I am al-Mahi (The eraser) with whom Allah erases blasphemy, I am al-Hashir whom people will be assembled after, and I am Aqib (the last of all of the prophets).”

  • @FeignofCordor The second Christian link, does not hide it.

  • @FeignofCordor Song Of Solomon Chapter 5 Verse 16.

    "His mouth is most sweet: yea, he is altogether lovely. This is my beloved, and this is my friend, O daughters of Jerusalem."

    ''Hikko Mamittakim we kullo Muhammadim Zehdoodeh wa Zehraee Bayna Jerusalem''

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  • @FeignofCordor Wiki Says, that one of the meanings of Parakletos, is of one who intercedes on our behalf. Islamic belief of Muhammad (PBUH) is that he will intercede for mankind on the day of judgement.

    He will be the only prophet to intercede & his intercession will be accepted, as shown in

    Sahih Bukhari - Book #93 - Hadith #507

  • @FeignofCordor The word Periklytos, which is similar but not the same as Parakletos, means the praised one. Muhammad (PBUH) had 5 names, one of which was Ahmad, meaning the praised one. The Quranic version of Jesus (PBUH) gave glad tidings of Ahmad (Quran 61:6). You could therefore say that the Biblical Jesus gave glad tidings of Parakletos whilst the Quranic Jesus (PBUH) gave glad tidings of Periklytos. See how similar it is.

  • @FeignofCordor ''Apostle warns Christians against false Gospels'', but also to test new ones...1 John 4:1

    ''Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.''

  • @FeignofCordor ...Matthew 7:16-23 ''You will know them by their fruits. Grapes are not gathered from thorn bushes nor figs from thistles, are they? So every good tree bears good fruit, but the bad tree bears bad fruit. A good tree cannot produce bad fruit, nor can a bad tree produce good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. So then, you will know them by their fruits.''

  • @FeignofCordor ...What fruits does Islam bring? The Muslims brought the Golden Age. America was built on Islamic principles, see my vid entitled ''Islam Has Already Been Integrated, Into The American System''. According to 1 American news report, seen after 9 minutes of my vid entitled ''Nonie Darwish FAKE EX MUSLIM EXPOSED'', 68,000 people revert into Islam, every 24 hours. Peace

  • @t6658

    I have heard this said of muslims bringing the Golden age but I don`t agree. Much of Europe was already going through its own age of enlightenment. Much of the things the moors brought to Europe was already invented by Greeks and Persians. America was built on Christian values and also Democracy islam played no part. Plus I know that figure of 68.000 a day is rubbish because by now everyone in America would be a Muslim. You should realise that as many people are leaving islam

  • @FeignofCordor I have several non-Muslim vids, including a new vid showing how the original fair American system (pre-NDAA), most of which is still used today, is taken from the Quran. Other non-Muslim vids show the inventions brought by Muslims, a lot of which will shock you to believe, that we still use today. As for Christian values, Europeans say Christian rule suppressed progressive science, the most popular example being the death of Galileo. Even your hygiene is owed to the Muslims...

  • @FeignofCordor ...these vids include, ''Islam Has Already Been Integrated, Into The American System'', ''Islamic Inventions'' 4 Part, & ''Golden Age Of Muslims Bought Europe Out Of The Dark Ages''

    You could also check out my Empire Of Faith 3 part documentary if you wish.

  • @FeignofCordor I can give you many non-Muslim references to Islam being the fastest growing religion in the World, including in places like America, Britain, & Europe. But what's the point, when you've already denounced my American non-Muslim news report.

  • @FeignofCordor Regarding your previous claim that Muhammad (PBUH) never performed any miracles; Just like Jesus (PBUH), Muhammad (PBUH) did perform miracles. Just like Jesus (PBUH), Muhammad (PBUH) also had witnesses that wrote it down. Just like Jesus (PBUH), Muhammad (PBUH), had no other witnesses, than that mentioned in scriptures....

  • @t6658

    Wrong we have non Christian testaments to Jesus doing miracles. Mohammed never did

  • @FeignofCordor Can I get references to the external witnesses to the miracles of Jesus.

  • @t6658 FLAVIUS JOSEPHUS (37 - 100 A.D.) Josephus was a first century pharisee and historian.

    " He was the Christ, and when Pilate, at the suggestion of the principal men among us, had condemned him to the cross, those that loved him at the first did not forsake him. For he appeared to them alive again the third day."

    Antiquities XVIII, 3:2

  • @FeignofCordor FLAVIUS JOSEPHUS says

    ''He appeared to THEM alive''

    'Them' not him. He wasn't even there. All hearsay.

    That's no more impressive than someone saying Jesus said he was God, when Jesus himself never said it.

    If only Josephus said, ''he appeared to 'me' alive again the third day.''

    The people who would have seen his miracles, would have become Christians, thus they would not be classified as external witnesses.

  • @FeignofCordor ...If my statement was in question form, then the question would have been a rhetorical question.

    ''neither Muhammad (PBUH)'s or Jesus (PBUH)'s miracles, have been noted externally.''

    Anyone that believed these miracles, would have converted or reverted.

    An ideal external witness, would be someone who talks negatively, of either Jesus (PBUH) or Muhammad (PBUH), & calls their miracles, as nothing more than magic or a hoax.

  • @t6658 Evidence from the Babylonian Talmud

    "On the eve of the Passover Yeshu was hanged. For forty days before the execution took place, a herald . . . cried, "He is going forth to be stoned because he has practiced sorcery and enticed Israel to apostasy." They called Christs miracles "sorcery" we obviously disagree however this is another non Biblical testimony to his miraculous works

  • @FeignofCordor I accept your Talmud, external reference.

  • @FeignofCordor What about NASA, being an external source for Muhammad (PBUH)'s miracles. Have a look at Ariadaeus (crater).

  • @FeignofCordor I have decided to reject your Talmud example, as external witness to the miracles of Jesus. Why? Wiki says the Talmud is 2 parts. 1 is written in 200CE, 200 years after Jesus, & the other 500CE, 500 years after Jesus. This is another example of hearsay. They were not there....

  • @FeignofCordor 1 miracle of Muhammad (PBUH) included splitting of the moon. Another miracle was, his first miracle; He was commanded read, & he was able to do so, whilst being illiterate. This is found in Isaiah 29:12; Or if you give the scroll to someone who cannot read, and say, "Read this, please," he will answer, "I don't know how to read."

    No one mentioned in the Bible, matches this description. Peace

  • @t6658

    He never read when he was commanded to so thats not a miracle and it wouldn`t be considered as one. Regarding the splitting of the Moon we know he never did this because if he had you would have non muslim sources writing about this miracle from all over the world. Because the world would have witnessed it. Yet all you have is a hadith mentioning it. Thats why I know its not true.

    Regarding the Isaiah verses which have been taken out of context I shall send you a video proving this

  • @FeignofCordor So why is Jesus' miracle not written by other witnesses. The guy brought the dead back to life. Surely, the Romans or someone would have written about it? Like I said, neither Muhammad (PBUH)'s or Jesus (PBUH)'s miracles, have been noted externally. Neither were those miracles meant for people like us.

  • @t6658

    I gave one example in Josephus but bare in mind that Jesus never did miracles that could be witnessed by the world only things that if you was there with him you would see. Such as his healing of the blind or lame. and the resurrection of a dead friend and young girl. nothing like splitting the moon in two. Which the whole world would have witnessed.

  • @FeignofCordor ''Which the whole world would have witnessed.'' Is this one of the Bible's flat earth claims, because, at times, as little as half the world could have seen it.

    Hadith also mentions that the people who thought it was magic, waited for travellers to come to town, & asked them about it, they replied they had. Again, no external sources, just like the Bible. Before you claim tides, etc would be affected, miracles means outside the laws of physics...

  • @FeignofCordor ...The dead coming back to life, clay pigeons coming alive, healing the blind & lame, this had spread to outside the Jews, as is evident with Matthew 15:22-27, & the fact the Romans put him ''allegedly'' on the cross. So why would this not spread?

  • @t6658

    Isaiah 29:12 is talking about prophets who`s hearts are far from the Lord and who worship man made rules. So are you saying this verse is about mohammed? Like I said if you just follow other people claims without bothering to check these claims out first then you`re not dealing with the subject honestly and you`re fooling yourself with falsehoods that will make you sound foolish. Blind leading the blind both shall fall into the pit.

  • @FeignofCordor ... Moses took of his shoes before praying just like a Muslim, etc

  • @t6658

    The only time I read that Moses took off his shoes was because God asked him to at the burning bush and he wasn`t praying but talking to God and listening to him. If thats your best example that Moses was a muslim then you should re think your beliefs

  • @FeignofCordor I was merely pointing out our similarities & how we follow teachings from your book, that not even you follow. Moses (PBUH), was communicating with God. When praying, you are communicating with God. He took off his shoes when communicating to God, we Muslims do the same

  • @FeignofCordor I dont reply on my wall, & would thank you to stick to this page, or pm.

  • @t6658

    Well I prefer to do my debating on mine or my opponents comments section of our channels because I don`t fear my answerers or questions being seen by others who visit my channel and its easier

  • @FeignofCordor Insults lol. I am not afraid to talk on my wall, it's just that we are having a beautiful conversation here, why flee & run away to my wall, to make comments there, that people would be seeing out of context. Why can't you just answer my questions here?

  • @t6658

    I challenge you to bring your claims to my comments section of my page and I shall answer them there not here.

  • @FeignofCordor ...Why did the disciples refuse to believe Jesus was a spirit? Because a) he had performed many miracles in front of them & b) they had seen spirits before, so why the refusal? All this according to the Bible. What was Jesus trying to prove by eating & asking to be felt?

  • @t6658

    I have no idea what on earth your talking about? Jesus was never viewed as a "Spirit" I have already told you this. Try actually reading the New Testament before you start questioning it because your making yourself look foolish.

  • @FeignofCordor This is but some of the contradictions in the Bible, with the story of the crucifixion.

  • @t6658

    Try looking up the oldest quran on here youtube and you will find its completely different from the quran you have.? So what now? And like I said The Third Caliph, Uthman burnt chapters he decided not to keep when he edited the quran and so your quran is not the same as the earliest. So who are you to point the finger at the Bible?

  • @FeignofCordor Their are old Qurans, at places like the Turkish museum. It is unchanged. During the time of the third Caliph, Islam had spread to non arabs, who were getting confused with the arabic. For example, in English, the word 'read', is spelt the same for past & present. Me or you, who speak & understand english, we know in which context it is used in a sentence, but non English natives, may not. Caliph Uthman, merely corrected this, so that it was easy to understand in any dialect....

  • @FeignofCordor ...He therefore burnt the Qurans initially written by non arabs, that had mistakes in them, to do with dialects. Do you know how we know that he did not change them? Because no Muslim, non Muslim, Arab, non Arab, Jew, or Christian, even those that were Arab, ever spoke out against it. This is a filthy accusation, only claimed today.

  • @FeignofCordor Are you also admitting the Bible is changed?

  • @FeignofCordor The difference between 18 different books, in 2 different completed Bibles, is not merely a translation difference, & this doesn't include footnotes & stuff like that. It means that 1 Bible may or may not include an entire book, such as Matthew for example.

    Quran does have different translations, but different Qurans don't remove whole chapters or books. Neither does the Quran make huge differences, like translating beloved into begotten, or translating young women into virgin...

  • @FeignofCordor ...Or even translating vagina, into navel. Ask & I will show you Christian references.

  • @FeignofCordor I have many more of these NIV footnotes, to many to quote here, but if you want, I can PM them to you. I also have a non-Muslim vid entitled ''Old Bible Contradicts Modern Christianity''

  • @FeignofCordor In John 3:16, some Bibles quote 'begotten son', others 'beloved son', others 'one & only son'. There is an absolute huge difference between begotten & beloved. Which Bible is correct.

  • The Jesus in the qur`an is a false story and there is no historical or scriptorial evidence to back up the muslims claims. Us Christians have over 20.000 documents and the martyrdom of 10 of the twelve Apostles as proof the Gospels are true

    Islam is false

  • Attention all Muslims!

    You want proof that Yeshua (JESUS) was crucified? Read the messianic prophecies such as Daniel 9:24-27, Psalm 22, and Isaiah 53. Zechariah 13:6 is a clear vision of Yeshua HaMashiach with pierced marks in His hands.

    The Yeshua that you Muslims believe according to the Koran is not the picture of the true Yeshua. The picture of the true Yeshua is in the Bible.

  • Stories of Jesus talking as a baby or making life out of clay....fairy tales.

    Wonder if he would say the same for walking no water or water into wine?

    It feels so good not to be a literalist. :)

  • hahaha 06:42 he said God himself died!!! haha God can die??? 08:10 he said God gaves his life...........WOW sorry my christian brothers, for me thats blasphemous

  • @EnterTheTruth

    I`m sorry but to deny that Jesus died for your sins is blasphemy. Other than your qur`an which was written 600 years later what evidence or proof do you have that the Gospels were corrupted? I challenge you to prove that the Gospels were corrupted. Then look at the fact that there are over 20.000 separate documents that testify to Christs divinity and .back up the Gospels

  • @FeignofCordor challenge accepted, all you need is a king james bible, and NRSV bible, i guarantee you that they (and every other version of the bible) are different, hence they have been tampered with.....don't believe me? then watch this video: watch?v=k8ea1eHyGMg

  • "Be" and it is.. Powerfull!!

  • Jesus appeared to be dead on the cross (unconscious) and thus was taken down. He was actually alive the entire time and then recovered in the tomb. The fundamental Christian idea that he had died and then resurrected is wrong. The mainstream Islamic idea that someone replaced him is also wrong. There is no written proof that Jesus ascended to heaven alive either. This was a real man who survived crucifixion because he was removed from the cross after only a few hours.

  • I cannot believe this absolute NONSCENCE..its so obvious the reason for all the fairy tales told here TOTALLY CHALLENGE the whole point of Christianity and its so OBVIOUS why its been done.. JESUS was not a Prophet he was excatly who he said he was.. this is an insult and a manipulative, calculated way to DISPROVE the Divinity of Jesus. It seems Mohammad did a pretty good job of INCLUDING Jesus in the quran for his own benefit. Dont listen to this rubbish RESEARCH IT yourself.

  • @TheChrissy48 haha, Jesus not once said in the Bible that we was God, or to worship him.

  • @momo5288 1 Col 1:15 2 John 1:2 3 1Peter 3:15 4John 8:56-59 5 John 10:30-33 6 John 12:44-46 7 John 13:12-14 8John 14:6-9 9 John 6:32-35 10 John 8:12-14 11 John 10:7-11 12 John 11:21-27 13 Matthew 20:25-28 14 Mark 9:31-32 15John 3:16-18 16 John 6:37-40
  • @TheChrissy48 You idiot Jesus was a prophet to christians. A prophet it anyone who has a message from God. Christians believe Jesus was a prophet the messiah and God the Father in the form of a man. Muslims believe Jesus was a prophet the messiah and Michael the arch angel

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  • These stories were found in lost gospels. The same stories in the Quran. It could be made up by the pious people or maybe not who knows.

  • I really want to hit that evangelist.

  • The Christian version of Jesus' death is more historically accurate, but the Muslim version makes more sense and doesn't have to justify Paul's contrived (IMO) explanations for why God allowed it to happen

  • are you sure? historically accurate?  have u really studied the evidence? research Bart erhman.

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  • @Tareltonlives

    God allowed it to happen because to forgive our sins there had to be a man sacrificed who was unblemished by sin. and only God is sinless. In the old Testament the Jews sacrificed a unblemished carf or lamb and this is why Jesus was also referred to as the Lamb of God.

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