Kung Fu Dragons of Wudang - Baguazhang, 8 Pattern Boxing

[xOrashix]

Who else thought of naruto and the byakugan

At least I know where the anime got the style of combat from

[JeffBrownThe10th]

so awesome! i wanna go there and learn!!

[universetechnique]

Remember I was here.Thai

[jacksawild]

Walking the circles. My teacher was a baguazhang and hsing yi fighter and I seriously wouldn't want to mess, he also teaches tai chi. He had incredible control and if threatened you might find yourself missing a testicle or two.

[jeffdoeskungfu]

@jacksawild Yeah, losing testicles sucks.

[Elbottoo]

That was just sick.

[Vennificus]

heh, Description "trigrammatastic"

[Square41]

aw, maaan... another guy doing empty bagua? this kind of publicity just makes bagua seem like something it isn't... looks like a formal documentary too. whatever you guys do, don't look at this for "real bagua". check out guys like david harris or bruce frantzis. they're legit. another one would be david meikle in vancouver or vince black in arizona.

[Taisykis]

@Square41 are you sure you are not mixing something up??? You talk about "empty bagua" and yet as an opposite sample you gave bruce frantzis who I looked up... Indeed what you described: empty...

You won't get better than what's in that documentary. It's the roots after all... No offence meant but still: mostly american pratcitioners who learn from american "masters" tend to say "Oh that's wrong and that's wrong". Maybe that's actually the right way and YOU are wrong ;)

[Square41]

@Taisykis hahaha nooo way dude. it just so happens that i ran into the right guys to learn from. you know, guys like the turtle from kung fu panda. anyways, empty bagua is like an interpretive dance and has no real jin; no internal connectivity, no turbulence of deep muscle contractions. full bagua comes from your gut. all the movements of your arms and legs feel like an unstoppable force -and they are. your ribs open and close, your spine is elongated and sometimes you understand the universe.

[vishesfishes]

@Taisykis :) all ways question anything you come across. i was trained by a greek & a brit but its true things can be hidden in the movement by the looks of this person it is a speedy mix of dragon movements.

thay r good just sloppy in some spots but nice of corse.

it can take many years to get all of a form smooth & fast.

[richardshapiroII]

@Taisykis

gonna disagree.

the new wudang is not the old wudang. new wudang is china govt owned and operated.

the only person who stayed on was a 100+ year old nun, they let her stay cause she's no trouble.

otherwise, it's run by the chinese govt.

you think the chinese govt really wants people to learn how to fight well?

well, I think they don't.

about bruce. he's the man. if yr serious about bagua, he's the guy to work with.

square 41 gave an excellent description of nei, thx

[quanjiahao87]

lol the guy doesn't even look in the right direction when he does the single palm change nor does his hand come back to the center of the circle wow =.=''

[IronPalm]

This is a rather wushu-ish demonstration of the "Original Form" that was developed by Jiang Rong-Jiao. It is not a form developed in a mountain temple, and is actually one of the most well-known baguazhang forms.

The Nine Palace exercise is certainly part of baguazhang, but the way it's done here is more for flashy demonstration purposes.

Can these guys Use their skills for fighting? Depends on if they Practice fighting! They move nicely, but so do ballerinas. I see a lot of overextention...

[bigfatdick5000]

I wonder how does the fighting skills of Wu tang practitioners compared to Shaolin monks ??

We've never seen wu tang practitioners in action.....

[Ryooken]

They are equal. Shaolin style and Wu Dang style are equal in every way as they are ying and yang?

[bowser8375]

Style has nothing to do with it. It is based on the skill of the person.

[micsir888]

Great idea! I love Bagua! To bad for the circuventing of the opponents there at thte end tho. Fail!

[pranakhan]

Wudang's training philosophy for most of its martial practices has a strong foundation in Tai Chi Chuan. For this reason, they teach through forms. They wont isolate movements for application or power generation. Wudang skill level is directly linked to how long you have been performing the specific form. Thats why Wudang Baguazhang looks different than other shools, and may appear to lack martial efficacy. My opinion, though.

[swampghost]

Good point.

[ChineseOpera8]

This is 'Traditional' true Ba-Gua Zhong,..not competition (incorrect slang-term) Wu-shu form. The intention is not on releasing brute-force to one area at a time,..it is on joint-locking and wrapping in a confusing, coiling pattern, plus his use is small-frame on top of the platform. To entangle the opponent. In this variation no fa-jing or explosive power is issued. It is hidden until nesessary. There are 'many' different types/styles of Ba-Gua zhong!

[housemorganina]

bellissimo!!

[GunslingerX92]

Wow. Bagua looks amazingly intricate. I noticed each of his steps moved to a new trigram, no further no shorter. I studied Hung Gar for two years, which I thought was tough, but this looks much harder to pick up.

[MachinShin0000]

The hard thing isn't picking up the motions, it's getting the applied fluidity with strength. that said, one of the above posters is 100% right, there is no power in these motions, it's wushu-ized bagua. There is no power here, you can litereally *SEE* that they're just walking in circles. you want to see good bagua? look for videos on youtube by blacktaoist. His bagua is incredible, grace and power.

[Bastion83]

admittedly you have a point but you can also see hes holding back. I subscribe to blacktaoist and you are right but I really do get the feeling this guy is intentionally holding back fa jing.

[Aheyne]

Yup, agreed.  This guy is just going through the motions, he doesn't even pay attention to center, and nothing comes from his whole body movements.

[JeffBrownThe10th]

@GunslingerX92 yes, it is much tougher. i study this, and my teacher has it down pretty well. but he says it took him 5 years just to get the footwork down. but as long as you keep improving from wherever you are, you will pick it up eventually

[frater]

what the person is demostrating is the footwork nad handwork of dragon in eight trigrams He is mster Chen now the is whe nhe was a young , his perfomance is excellenet but all wudang style is not compatible totally with shaolin forms

I am a dragon I write so with knowledge

[AndyRaslan]

You're clearly not a dragon in grammar, spelling and punctuation.

[frater]

Sorry the keyboard was bad ,but you could understand my words perfectly

[Buzztooth]

The opening pattern is pretty standard. It was the eight patterns all linked together. The performance was ok. Looked like Cheng style, not wushu.

[AndyRaslan]

That's Wudang BaGua. The documentary is about Wudang Gong Fu.

[DerUberGaijan]

This is the most sorry demonstration I've ever seen...I don't want to knock the martial arts style, but hopefully this isn't what it looks like normally. Half the time she's just walking around the circle normally and making vague gestures that don't seem to have any practical purpose towards a human opponent.

I don't know..maybe if the point was to waft away some smoke...

[bot3e]

That's a guy.

[Aheyne]

All you prove is that you know nothing about martial arts : )

The application is hidden in the movements, if the teacher can't show you this then the teacher is terrible

[monkeyking32]

yea i agree. but its a shame though, most schools today, in ny at least

teach only the forms as wushu performance, they don't break down applications and purposes

[nejikid]

awesome

[HessOnChess]

This is a really awful introduction to Bagau. It's a shame these martial arts are being reduced to silly routines for cable tv shows.

[Yarwer]

i disagree - it shows good footwork, and is demonstrating it's relation to the eight triagrams.

[dougrhess]

But it doesn't go over the trigrams at all (mabye later but not here). The person doing the solo is good at wushu performance (very good) but not really at demonstrating what the point of it is. It's just talk. Please note that I'm not attacking the style, just this presentation and the narration.

[Yarwer]

i am not sure, if you look - the person is highlighting the footwork; i.e. like in boxing where the point is to keep on t'outside of the lead foot of the opponent, i perceive it as this . . . if you look further into the wudang gung fu; you will find it is an internal style, i.e. like tai chi - except for combat, as usual tai chi in my opinion is not. search "ji ben" or wudang gung fu and go to "basic fist set" it might help your interpretation.

take care, much respect.

[slingblade2012]

my bad ..you were asking the name of the form ..not style

[slingblade2012]

bagua is the form ..he says it .

[aenubis]

does anyone know the name of this form?

[okodorifuto]

I think I saw this @ NatGeo

[knives01ng]

wow?

[brullki]

Thanx to put this on you tube!! save the mistery of baqua!! ;)

[SunLutang06]

typical wudang wushu

but then again you dont see any apps

[Akaoushi]

Wow that was amazing, this is something I have been wanting to learn for a few years now but theres no one here that teaches Bagua.

[jimmyjamesWang]

dont call it bagua, bagua is a slang for gossip. call it baguazhang.

[bot3e]

BuGua is also a Feng Shui technique. The word has many meanings.

[jimmyjamesWang]

Ba gua literaly means the Eight Trigram which is, above all, a philosophical and metaphysical concept of daoism.

[SunRhythms]

the 9 pieces of 8

[wushumaster93]

wow

[biedronec]

wow, wow, wow