Listen to this song without seeing this video and it receives a 9 out of 10. Very cool music, reminds me of Autumn Nocturne (also called "Fools We Are" and "Strolling") and With Every Light (don't ask me why). =]
Embarrassing and sad, I swear to god, I thought this was some kind of prank or stuff like that, some humor whatever, but when I realized was true, really sad.
I'm conflicted here I like this song and I get that it's really pop and not what I'm used to with this band but It's still a good song even if it's softer and different.
@88Ejob di sicuro è ampiamente oltre l'età pensionabile, artisticamente parlando, ma vuoi cmq mettere la goduria nel rivederlo di nuovo smanacciare la chitarra con la buzza larderellosa e il faccione, quelli che ciclicamente mette su?? nell'oscillazione sinusoidale del suo peso, nel corso della storia, vuoi mettere che infinita tristezza vederlo in versione vecchio rachitico col cardigan turchese mentre festeggiava i suoi primi 40 anni?
@88Ejob beh impossibile non immaginarlo sul lettone in mezzo a quei due "esili ed eterei fuscelli femminili", incaprettato e pecorizzato nonché sodomizzato da un synth aerodinamico. spiegato l'arcano della miagolizzazione del suo timbro vocale in questi ultimi anni.
Billy doesn't give a flying fuck about what any of you people think, wanna know why? Because he isn't a sell out! If you don't admire him for the music he makes now, you could at least admire him for the fact that he is one of the LAST remaining REAL artists because he is a man of integrity and because he does what he wants to do and not what everyone else wants him to.
technically speaking, the video is fine. I think that's what people mean when they say they like it. But it doesn't have anything to do with the song. It does nothing for it, and the video doesn't need it either. It's just something to enjoy. No more Thirty-Three I guess....
but really tho, any particular reason billy decided that it was better to nearly silence the guitar? look, its not the 90s anymore, it doesnt have to be grunge, rock can be happy and stuff, but that doesnt mean it has to sound like pop! the guitar is still kinda needed. If billy really wants to make poppy stuff like this then he should make it a solo album, not drag SP with him. I'd really love his experimenting with music, but stop calling it Pumpkins.
This new Pumpkins sound is refreshing for sure. I think it took them a little while to take off and find this new sound, starting with the Ashbury concert, the roughest period ending with the first Teargarden EP. They seem to have found their element now - and I say "they" because it sounds less like Billy Corgan and more like a collaborative. Nothing will ever replace JC but Mike brings a new sound to the band.
It's a new era, folks. Respect it, neglect it, but don't hate on it.
Huge SP fan. Huge fan of Teargarden. Huge fan of this song. But I'm personally disappointed in this music video. Oh well, every artist is entitled to their "misses", I'll still be listening cause I love the music.
This is literally the first thing in 17 years that has saddened me about SP besides the breakup... It's like watching Rembrandt proudly display his completed Bugs Bunny coloring book. Even when I try to find the good in it; the Billy Corgan virtue; it's still like watching SNL. I know SP are a "fun" band, nothing this absurd was ever actually released. At least Butch's pig head was mildly cogitative. I want to believe I just don't get it yet. I do. But...
I have thoroughly cherished *everything* SP has given me since 1994. Billy changed my life. I was almost sad about the bald head and the silver pants. I vividly remember feeling a a small welling in my spirit the first time I heard BWBW, but I gladly went along anyway. I was supportive when the Jimmy thing happened, and when D'Arcy finally walked I was nervous but ok. I loved the book, I supported Zwan (3 shows!), helped promote the solo record, rejoiced over the reunion. Now I get THIS?
I'm not trying to be selfish about this, but seriously Billy, WHO are you talking to? I hope I don't recall these scenes when I listen to the song from now on. Are we officially officially officially on the Exclusively Corgan's Brain Train now? Is that what's happening? It doesn't matter what you give us as long as it's you? We just get an all access pass inside? Is that really what you want? Is what *we* want? I think I liked it better when it was topical. This is just fucking stupid.
Glad you like it! I was really impressed. Btw, I just realized I typed "Song for a Song", but obviously it's "Song for a Son" I type too quick for my own good sometimes! ha!
Hey guys, if you don't like this song, listen to Song For a Son. Proof that Billy is a multidimensional songwriter still capable of writing songs in the old Pumpkins vein while also exploring new territory. Now let's talk about the music video instead of ripping the song to shreds. I understand that Billy's a big wrestling fan, and the story for the video is ok (hey, I'm glad it had a story), but wrestling, really? I'm sure this video alienates 95% of whatever SP fans are left.
@deadleafecho You "true fans" gave him enough money so that he doesn't have to care about alienating any of you. and good for him, what a bunch of pathetic whiners.
@GeneralMitu HAHAH!! Nice. I love how everyone thinks artists ONLY make music for what will be EXPECTED or MOST POPULAR and not to expand artistically or creative.
bah it sounds like a bad, annoying song for a candy commercial. honestly, if it wouldn't be labeled sp, no one would listen to this. i agree with spartak95.
I agree with the fact that Billy's Songwriting is the most inconsistent music in the history of music, itself. I know people have a love/hate relationship with his songs. IMHO, he's such a prolific Songwriter, & has so many songs, maybe he just doesn't know how to edit himself? He will pull out another great album, it's just a matter of time. Adore and MC&IS are two albums that got me thru some REALLY shit times. Anyone that created these masterpieces, is worth our patience. This is just a lull.
This is a continuation of the "Perfect" video from Adore. Just terrible. Billy has turned into the Chevy Chase of music. This is really bad and just bad. I'm having a hard time believing they even tried putting this shit together.
all the comments are either people saying they like it or people trashing people who don't like it but there's like three comments of people saying they don't like it and they aren't even mean.
I don't like it and I don't think that makes me narrow minded or exposes any other poor character traits on my behalf, people are allowed to have opinions!
Hey.. im as sad as anyone else who misses the "old pumpkins" ..but the new stuff is really good also... i grew up as a pissed kid, and i grew up into someone who likes something a little more upbeat lol!
It's never going to be the same, even if all the old members rejoined today. Even if it was, people would cry about them doing the same old thing. Get over it.
Works so much better as a video than the complete film did, which let's face it, kinda sucked. Regardless, I'm a Pumpkins fan for life, I love Billy and all band members past and present.
SP Music still awesome but what's up with the video? The blond guy acting like a douch with his lady.Both (SP and Wrestling) don't relate much together IMHO.
if the pumpkins had kept the original line up and kept the same style people would just be complaining about how old and stale they are, so it's just a catch 22 your not going to be happy either way.
They're still SP regardless of what the music sounds like, music styles & genre change with the times... people just need to get used to it. Hell Adore was vastly different from MCIS, Siamese Dream & Gish yet people now love it to pieces (with it being for the majority not liked upon release for being too different to what they expected from SP). This new stuff should be looked at in the same way, regardless of what sounds come out it is still Pumpkins; don't kid yourself if you think otherwise.
@CreamCrazy Okay, can you explain to me why is this still Smashing Pumpkins? Because Billy is in it? in that case you may as well call Zwan Smashing Pumpkins and say The Future Embrace was also a Smashing Pumpkins album. SP were a band that each brought something to the table, SP ended a long time ago.
@MechanicalChrist1 You're a dumb bastard and you couldnt be more wrong. Billy wrote all the Pumpkins stuff and he even played all instruments on the albums, as James n Darcy weren't good enough to get it done properly. So you see, Billy = Smashing Pumpkins. Get informed or shut your mouth. Nothin worse than an ignorant shit talker.
@MechanicalChrist1 Like I keep saying music evolves, some bands remain the same name but have many different members apart from say one founder & continue to make music that isn't the same as their other stuff. Honestly, the band remains the same, but they're writing a new chapter in their history. That's how things are! Live with it!
@CreamCrazy then you might as well have called zwan the smashing pumpkins too, it had the exact some number of original pumpkins. this shit is not smashing pumpkins
@explosiveshrooms Music & sound can evolve... if you didn't know that then you're a bit dumb. Rush changed their musical style many times & yet their fans embraced the changes they made. Sure this song is not the 'same as what they made before', but you can't expect a band to play the same sounding stuff all the time. Its people like you who can't accept change that can't be considered real fans of not just Pumpkins but music itself.
I don't get it. If people don't like what pumpkins are now then why watch the video, let alone troll on it saying how new pumpkins sucks. Just accept it if not dont bother with it.
@kazalack Ugh!! Here comes the "reflux" of "I'll BJ whatever Billy produces" comments. Don't you think we have an opinion that's valid? Don't you think we have the right to feel absolutely gutted, that the person behind Infinite Sadness & Adore, is coming out with songs like this? Are our comments "ugh"? Why? Explain to me what you get from this Music? I think we have a right to hear why THIS Music means so much to you? Go on?! Then I'll tell you what IS and Adore mean to me.. I'd love to know!!
pumpkins have changed a lot compared to what they used to be, a lot of the new stuff might as well be Zwan. I still listen, but my heart lies with the old pumpkins :(
I like this song. Plus, it has the Shimmer champ in it. Go Melissa!
AngieTaber 6 days ago
what is this song about
AustinIsAGamer 1 week ago
if this was on Mellon Collie people would call it groundbreaking and amazing
ak47popper 1 week ago in playlist Liked videos
SO BLAND! as boring as a Hootie and the blowfishshit. It totally lacks of depth and personality!
I won't even mention that useless video. Please..Billy never again.
NAIVADA 1 week ago
Listen to this song without seeing this video and it receives a 9 out of 10. Very cool music, reminds me of Autumn Nocturne (also called "Fools We Are" and "Strolling") and With Every Light (don't ask me why). =]
remynath33 1 week ago
Nice song i like it and still love the SP
HeartandSoul59 2 weeks ago
wow people got mad over this why because its happy sounding? i think its pretty good actually reminds me of atom bomb a little
NewDarkAgeMusic 3 weeks ago
nice song but Robby i dont like your video.
EdgardoLaRosa 1 month ago
Music and images are completely disconnected. Where is this beautiful night?
uran0 1 month ago 2
There is a message here. Obviously Billy is trying to say that guys are assholes and that girls should be lesbians.
ryankon518 1 month ago
What the hell ? Billy, when i' am watching this i wanna cry all day, this is totally shit
, i am listening mellon collie and thinking where is this wonder sound like it was at
1979 or bullet with butterfly wings . This isn't a huge come back. If new album gonna be like this song. The new cd will be totally crap
lukicovers 1 month ago
@lukicovers it's called evolving fuckface. do you want to go back to being an ape?
ak47popper 2 weeks ago
Raven and Shelly Martinez :O
victortalktoomuch 2 months ago
c'est une poupée qui fait non non non! => polnareff song ahahahaha that sucks!
ggpop 2 months ago
lol at smashing pumpkins fans getting butthurt. it's a great song :)
ihateyorkie 2 months ago 6
Embarrassing and sad, I swear to god, I thought this was some kind of prank or stuff like that, some humor whatever, but when I realized was true, really sad.
FuiPegaUmaCOCS 2 months ago
ECW
s10wcheetah 2 months ago
Big tits at the end there.... that was cool... i guess
UKNOWIT88 2 months ago
I'm conflicted here I like this song and I get that it's really pop and not what I'm used to with this band but It's still a good song even if it's softer and different.
lovelaj0149 2 months ago
dude... whata... dude! facepalm*
battousaigo 2 months ago
this is so embarrassing and sad
coolranchsoda 3 months ago
@coolranchsoda
explain, because I'm confused at what you typed.
kisser83 2 months ago
Great Song, Good Video
dixon0023 3 months ago
I´m a fan of Smashing Pumkings, but Billy should change the name of his new band.
deapwavelio 3 months ago
@88Ejob di sicuro è ampiamente oltre l'età pensionabile, artisticamente parlando, ma vuoi cmq mettere la goduria nel rivederlo di nuovo smanacciare la chitarra con la buzza larderellosa e il faccione, quelli che ciclicamente mette su?? nell'oscillazione sinusoidale del suo peso, nel corso della storia, vuoi mettere che infinita tristezza vederlo in versione vecchio rachitico col cardigan turchese mentre festeggiava i suoi primi 40 anni?
treesandballoons 3 months ago
@88Ejob beh impossibile non immaginarlo sul lettone in mezzo a quei due "esili ed eterei fuscelli femminili", incaprettato e pecorizzato nonché sodomizzato da un synth aerodinamico. spiegato l'arcano della miagolizzazione del suo timbro vocale in questi ultimi anni.
treesandballoons 3 months ago
CORGAN YOU TERROR
therealgame 3 months ago
quel vecchio porco del billonzo :D
treesandballoons 3 months ago
@treesandballoons ho riso tipo mezz'ora per il tuo commento XD. cmq gli S.p. hanno finito il loro tempo da dieci anni ormai :-(
88Ejob 3 months ago
terrible video!!!!!!! Amazing song!!!!!!!!!!!
geoff1424 5 months ago
This is so...Zwan type of music.
VitaljoaoV 5 months ago in playlist Vídeos de PumpkinsMediaMilitia
I wish Billy would change the name of the band, this is not the smashing pumpkins.
scarface69depp 5 months ago
lol wrestling politics
DirtyD614 6 months ago
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Billy doesn't give a flying fuck about what any of you people think, wanna know why? Because he isn't a sell out! If you don't admire him for the music he makes now, you could at least admire him for the fact that he is one of the LAST remaining REAL artists because he is a man of integrity and because he does what he wants to do and not what everyone else wants him to.
EthanODaniel93 6 months ago
I heard this song was originally written for Katy Perry.
024Alicyn 6 months ago
@024Alicyn thats bullshit
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024Alicyn 6 months ago
I never thought I'd be saying this but, What the fuck is this shit!? :/
PennyRoyal369 6 months ago 4
technically speaking, the video is fine. I think that's what people mean when they say they like it. But it doesn't have anything to do with the song. It does nothing for it, and the video doesn't need it either. It's just something to enjoy. No more Thirty-Three I guess....
joeyadesantis 6 months ago
but really tho, any particular reason billy decided that it was better to nearly silence the guitar? look, its not the 90s anymore, it doesnt have to be grunge, rock can be happy and stuff, but that doesnt mean it has to sound like pop! the guitar is still kinda needed. If billy really wants to make poppy stuff like this then he should make it a solo album, not drag SP with him. I'd really love his experimenting with music, but stop calling it Pumpkins.
Nfox0900 6 months ago
It's Raven, Cheerleader Melissa, and Shelly Martinez!
Mcheetah 6 months ago
This new Pumpkins sound is refreshing for sure. I think it took them a little while to take off and find this new sound, starting with the Ashbury concert, the roughest period ending with the first Teargarden EP. They seem to have found their element now - and I say "they" because it sounds less like Billy Corgan and more like a collaborative. Nothing will ever replace JC but Mike brings a new sound to the band.
It's a new era, folks. Respect it, neglect it, but don't hate on it.
zerosoma33 6 months ago
Huge SP fan. Huge fan of Teargarden. Huge fan of this song. But I'm personally disappointed in this music video. Oh well, every artist is entitled to their "misses", I'll still be listening cause I love the music.
bluetunestudios 6 months ago
I never hated the song, its definately not my favorite SP song tho. But new SP is better than no SP
Nfox0900 6 months ago
at first I wasn't a fan of the new song but it's grown on me, I like it a lot!
silkpill 6 months ago
Really like the video, absolutely Love Love Love the song ♥♥♥♥ you are amazing Billy ♥
Your fan,
Alex
lalalex84 6 months ago
What's better, the old melancholy Billy..
"The World is a Vampire.. sent to drain.
Secret Destroyers.. hold you up to the flames.
& what do I get.. for my pain?
Betrayed desires.. & a piece of the game."
Or, happy happy joy joy Billy..
"Ride off the Silver Screen.. into a moon beam; to the Alien side.
Catch heck with Jesus.. the stars beneath us.. oh, what a beautiful night."
CorneliusRandom 6 months ago
ahahahahaha raven
uxbnkuribo 6 months ago
SP meet the Strokes
surfbite 6 months ago
@surfbite and Interpol
HYPERJOHNBASS 6 months ago
I love Smashing Pumpkins! I'm excited for things to come...
aresorum 6 months ago
the video and the song don't match up really, but I'm a fan of both The Pumpkins and wrestling, so it's cool
VirtOMac 6 months ago
the video and song didn't go together at all, thumbs down.
SolidSnakeAss 6 months ago
good singing billy
Zac6230 6 months ago
Raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaveeeeeeeennnnnnnnnnnnn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ledgy91 6 months ago
Raven what fuck...????
SanAndreasXXthegame 6 months ago
this is sooooo much better than the short film version
mmmikeyxx 6 months ago
1 OF 3 (Got a lot to say right now!)
This is literally the first thing in 17 years that has saddened me about SP besides the breakup... It's like watching Rembrandt proudly display his completed Bugs Bunny coloring book. Even when I try to find the good in it; the Billy Corgan virtue; it's still like watching SNL. I know SP are a "fun" band, nothing this absurd was ever actually released. At least Butch's pig head was mildly cogitative. I want to believe I just don't get it yet. I do. But...
deanthebeanmachine1 6 months ago
2 OF 3
I have thoroughly cherished *everything* SP has given me since 1994. Billy changed my life. I was almost sad about the bald head and the silver pants. I vividly remember feeling a a small welling in my spirit the first time I heard BWBW, but I gladly went along anyway. I was supportive when the Jimmy thing happened, and when D'Arcy finally walked I was nervous but ok. I loved the book, I supported Zwan (3 shows!), helped promote the solo record, rejoiced over the reunion. Now I get THIS?
deanthebeanmachine1 6 months ago
3 OF 3
I'm not trying to be selfish about this, but seriously Billy, WHO are you talking to? I hope I don't recall these scenes when I listen to the song from now on. Are we officially officially officially on the Exclusively Corgan's Brain Train now? Is that what's happening? It doesn't matter what you give us as long as it's you? We just get an all access pass inside? Is that really what you want? Is what *we* want? I think I liked it better when it was topical. This is just fucking stupid.
deanthebeanmachine1 6 months ago
o shit! Ravens still alive?
evilgenes 6 months ago
No problems with the music, but is this actually the official video? It's so lame..
TommyDeLong 6 months ago
call me crazy, but I actually really like this song. fuck the fairweather fans.
emb52281 6 months ago
@emb52281
Check out Song for a Song. One of the best songs to be written in years.
deanthebeanmachine1 6 months ago
@deanthebeanmachine1 i love it man.. thanks for the heads up on this! >:)
emb52281 6 months ago
@emb52281
Glad you like it! I was really impressed. Btw, I just realized I typed "Song for a Song", but obviously it's "Song for a Son" I type too quick for my own good sometimes! ha!
deanthebeanmachine1 6 months ago
@deanthebeanmachine1 it's all good, youtube fixed it :D love good tunes, keeps my sanity!
emb52281 6 months ago
@emb52281
Here are a few of my recent findings to share. What do you have?
The Temper Trap (This guy is seriously onto some big thoughts!) - Check out "Fader", "Sweet Disposition", and "Science of Fear"
Sigur Ros - Check out the video for "Glosoli"
Tears For Fears put out a new record a couple years ago that not many have heard about. It's fantastic! Called "Everybody Loves a Happy Ending"
Mutemath is a newer band that is really different, good msg
Mew is great too - "Zookeeper's Boy"
deanthebeanmachine1 6 months ago
@deanthebeanmachine1 LOVING Sigur Ros, checking out the rest :)
emb52281 6 months ago
@emb52281
Isn't that video great? Might be my favorite of all time. Incredible!
deanthebeanmachine1 6 months ago
Good to see a band that was talented back in the day is still putting out some good tunes!
butterscotchsnaps 6 months ago
this is kind of weak.
wiz189 6 months ago
NO me gusto el video :(
MsSherman89 6 months ago
I am a huge fan of smashing pumpkins, I have ALL their albums and singles etc. but this song is at least indifferent (sorry Billy).
qphase1 6 months ago
this song is terrific
chromeeyelashes 6 months ago
so far my favorite Teargarden song is Lighting Strikes. really powerful. I love the acoustic version of this one.
supermagnetron5000 6 months ago
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criherjeiln 6 months ago
Pumpkins Forever, fuck the haters who live in the past.
JonTheDandy 6 months ago
Hey guys, if you don't like this song, listen to Song For a Son. Proof that Billy is a multidimensional songwriter still capable of writing songs in the old Pumpkins vein while also exploring new territory. Now let's talk about the music video instead of ripping the song to shreds. I understand that Billy's a big wrestling fan, and the story for the video is ok (hey, I'm glad it had a story), but wrestling, really? I'm sure this video alienates 95% of whatever SP fans are left.
deadleafecho 7 months ago
@deadleafecho You "true fans" gave him enough money so that he doesn't have to care about alienating any of you. and good for him, what a bunch of pathetic whiners.
GeneralMitu 6 months ago
@GeneralMitu HAHAH!! Nice. I love how everyone thinks artists ONLY make music for what will be EXPECTED or MOST POPULAR and not to expand artistically or creative.
EasilySuede 6 months ago
RIP Smashing Pumpkins Dec, 2000
dotamusic 7 months ago
Okay either my entire life or this song is a lie.
jledford72 7 months ago
SP is AWLAWYS gonna be Sp... if they got it to work in 2007.. keep in mind it has only been four years... just give them a chance
xXavadoreXx 7 months ago
bah it sounds like a bad, annoying song for a candy commercial. honestly, if it wouldn't be labeled sp, no one would listen to this. i agree with spartak95.
crestfaIIen 7 months ago
SP will always be my favorite band, but this video is shit.
msj56 7 months ago
No mas Billy....throw in the towel, the halcyon days of the 90's are long gone and you cant write exciting music anymore
spartak95 7 months ago
I agree with the fact that Billy's Songwriting is the most inconsistent music in the history of music, itself. I know people have a love/hate relationship with his songs. IMHO, he's such a prolific Songwriter, & has so many songs, maybe he just doesn't know how to edit himself? He will pull out another great album, it's just a matter of time. Adore and MC&IS are two albums that got me thru some REALLY shit times. Anyone that created these masterpieces, is worth our patience. This is just a lull.
CorneliusRandom 7 months ago
This is a continuation of the "Perfect" video from Adore. Just terrible. Billy has turned into the Chevy Chase of music. This is really bad and just bad. I'm having a hard time believing they even tried putting this shit together.
p0479 7 months ago
I don't like this. I just don't.
amosthree 7 months ago
I have that leopard slanket
GhandiWarhol 7 months ago
all the comments are either people saying they like it or people trashing people who don't like it but there's like three comments of people saying they don't like it and they aren't even mean.
I don't like it and I don't think that makes me narrow minded or exposes any other poor character traits on my behalf, people are allowed to have opinions!
silkpill 7 months ago
I just raged so hard when i saw this.
RiaAndHoneyJuice 7 months ago
Hey.. im as sad as anyone else who misses the "old pumpkins" ..but the new stuff is really good also... i grew up as a pissed kid, and i grew up into someone who likes something a little more upbeat lol!
Grahamin3D 7 months ago 5
i cant enjoy wrestling : /
MusiqueMMUS 7 months ago
It's never going to be the same, even if all the old members rejoined today. Even if it was, people would cry about them doing the same old thing. Get over it.
anonymous3637 7 months ago
Should Artist be limited by their fans' small minds?
Thats a little counterproductive dont you think?
jtaggueg 7 months ago
Incredible song.
WispierTetrahedrons 7 months ago
Works so much better as a video than the complete film did, which let's face it, kinda sucked. Regardless, I'm a Pumpkins fan for life, I love Billy and all band members past and present.
hairo71 7 months ago
When I close my eyes this music video is really good!
spaceboy90 7 months ago
SP Music still awesome but what's up with the video? The blond guy acting like a douch with his lady.Both (SP and Wrestling) don't relate much together IMHO.
pduperron 7 months ago
I just...... I just hate "professional wrestling" It's the one of those terrible things to plague America. Great soung though.
NinjaBear567 7 months ago
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b09h 7 months ago
Good song :)
but what the hell where they thinking with this video? XD
TheUltraDude 7 months ago 5
still miss the old pumpkins, but this is a great song.
KanadianRavn 7 months ago
If I were Raven I would've picked Shelly Martinez.
DWinch 7 months ago
i like this would love it if with out the synth
Under2darkheart 7 months ago
Love this song!
SuperSparkyMark1 7 months ago 2
cheerleader melissa and shelly martinez are both smoking hot! everything changes including music get use to it!
pretty23garbage 7 months ago
too happy. i like depressing smashing pumpkins songs
RiseagainstWINS 7 months ago
if the pumpkins had kept the original line up and kept the same style people would just be complaining about how old and stale they are, so it's just a catch 22 your not going to be happy either way.
XXXPharcydeXXX 7 months ago 4
They're still SP regardless of what the music sounds like, music styles & genre change with the times... people just need to get used to it. Hell Adore was vastly different from MCIS, Siamese Dream & Gish yet people now love it to pieces (with it being for the majority not liked upon release for being too different to what they expected from SP). This new stuff should be looked at in the same way, regardless of what sounds come out it is still Pumpkins; don't kid yourself if you think otherwise.
CreamCrazy 7 months ago 30
@CreamCrazy
The song is great. Done with that.
Do you like the video?
deanthebeanmachine1 6 months ago
@deanthebeanmachine1 I love SP & Wrestling, so this is a great vid for me!
CreamCrazy 6 months ago
@CreamCrazy Okay, can you explain to me why is this still Smashing Pumpkins? Because Billy is in it? in that case you may as well call Zwan Smashing Pumpkins and say The Future Embrace was also a Smashing Pumpkins album. SP were a band that each brought something to the table, SP ended a long time ago.
MechanicalChrist1 6 months ago
@MechanicalChrist1 You're a dumb bastard and you couldnt be more wrong. Billy wrote all the Pumpkins stuff and he even played all instruments on the albums, as James n Darcy weren't good enough to get it done properly. So you see, Billy = Smashing Pumpkins. Get informed or shut your mouth. Nothin worse than an ignorant shit talker.
BC23 6 months ago
@MechanicalChrist1 Like I keep saying music evolves, some bands remain the same name but have many different members apart from say one founder & continue to make music that isn't the same as their other stuff. Honestly, the band remains the same, but they're writing a new chapter in their history. That's how things are! Live with it!
CreamCrazy 5 months ago
@CreamCrazy then you might as well have called zwan the smashing pumpkins too, it had the exact some number of original pumpkins. this shit is not smashing pumpkins
explosiveshrooms 5 months ago
@explosiveshrooms Music & sound can evolve... if you didn't know that then you're a bit dumb. Rush changed their musical style many times & yet their fans embraced the changes they made. Sure this song is not the 'same as what they made before', but you can't expect a band to play the same sounding stuff all the time. Its people like you who can't accept change that can't be considered real fans of not just Pumpkins but music itself.
CreamCrazy 5 months ago
I don't get it. If people don't like what pumpkins are now then why watch the video, let alone troll on it saying how new pumpkins sucks. Just accept it if not dont bother with it.
StarInvasion 7 months ago
ugh here comes the influx of "Old Pumpkins" comments
kazalack 7 months ago 44
@kazalack
Do you like the video?
deanthebeanmachine1 6 months ago
@kazalack Ugh!! Here comes the "reflux" of "I'll BJ whatever Billy produces" comments. Don't you think we have an opinion that's valid? Don't you think we have the right to feel absolutely gutted, that the person behind Infinite Sadness & Adore, is coming out with songs like this? Are our comments "ugh"? Why? Explain to me what you get from this Music? I think we have a right to hear why THIS Music means so much to you? Go on?! Then I'll tell you what IS and Adore mean to me.. I'd love to know!!
CorneliusRandom 6 months ago 3
I prefer Billy's solo stuff and Zwan to post-break-up Smashing Pumpkins.
BayviewFinch 7 months ago 4
Awesome!
quirinocicero 7 months ago
pumpkins have changed a lot compared to what they used to be, a lot of the new stuff might as well be Zwan. I still listen, but my heart lies with the old pumpkins :(
DrummerFrogking 7 months ago 5
yeah I still love it
pigandmeh 7 months ago
NIce
ivraalia 7 months ago