@SupermaxCNC Was taught that drills are more approprietely used by first piloting, due to the different SFM required for the smallest part of the hole (the center). I've since been told its unneccesary but have not thoroughly investigated.
A pilot is rarely necessary. Many do it because they think it will result in a more accurate hole but when going through with the final size the bit can be pulled off to one side when it catches on the sharp edge of the hole. Best thing to do is spot with a spot drill of the same angle of the drill and then drill to final size. Also use screw machine length drills, not jobbers. If you get 135 deg jobbers you can often get away without spotting as they are as stiff as the spot drill.
Nice work on the TTS tapping video, have you tried to tap a 1/2 inch thread yet? I am curious as to how well the head works with larger diameter cutters. They spec it for 1/2 inch but is that in aluminum or steel? Have you used it in any steel at all? I am using a CNC Converted RF45 mill with a sensorless vector and belt drive much like the tormach and I am seriously thinking about purchasing the tension compression tap head from them. What is your overall opinion of the quality of the unit ?
@PetefromTn Thanks! No, have not. I'll give it a try in the coming months I'm sure. I can't answer aluminum versus steel, but I'm sure some of that has to do with what type of steel. I'm sure 12L14 is a lot easier than 4130. Also a question of thread depth. Using high quality taps is, obviously, a must. T/C head is great - seems like top quality and very pleased with the consistency and results.
Can the Tormach do rigid tapping? I was also curious, can you use and "E" value for the feed/pitch of tap? In other words when I program a tap cycle at work with fanuc control I use a G84 (tap cycle) and the feed value is expressed as E. "E" is the tap pitch . 1/4-20 would be E20. What ever rpm is chosen the machine will caculate the feed it needs at that rpm. Its super easy and no caculateing any thing. The only time you need to caculate is with a metric tap. convert the metric to S.A.E. pitch
@joleenmorganjohn No, Tormach cannot do rigid tapping because it does not have a servo spindle. Calculating the Gcode to use the compression/tapping head is very easy.
@Link383 No, the tapping code doesn't rely on a retract plane like a drilling cycle does; it simply G01's to a z-depth and then backs out. You can see sample code in my video above or at tormach.com/blog/?p=963
@racingdave So far, it's exactly what I expected: it's a little tricky at first, but the video's have been incredibly helpful and it is clearly a very powerful piece of software, especially for the price. I've probably spent 8 hours in the software and 10 hours watching video tutorials and have already made half a dozen different parts - which is the best way to learn...
I really love the "Bilz" style tap holders. Tthey are great. You might also look into Jacobs Rubberflex style too, they are also used with the Tapmatic 50X style tapping head which are nice too.
I have never had problems with the Bilz though. Go to the Bilz USA site and look at their products.
Thank you for this series. I have been quite impressed with the Tormach. I never heard of them before your videos. Had I, I would probably not have bothered to convert my SX3 to CNC. Have you switched now from BobCad to Alibre? If so, what influenced your decision?
@alan0166 Yes, using Alibre now. It's amazing. First off, if you aren't familiar with parametric CAD, it alone is worth the change. Overall, more powerful, more reliable and much more efficient...
Wow bro, you make it look easy and simple., but for me it seems so complicated. I would love to have a CNC machine, but I would have to hire you to program it...lol
Why in the world did you use a pilot bit?
SupermaxCNC 7 months ago
@SupermaxCNC Was taught that drills are more approprietely used by first piloting, due to the different SFM required for the smallest part of the hole (the center). I've since been told its unneccesary but have not thoroughly investigated.
saunixcomp 7 months ago
@saunixcomp
A pilot is rarely necessary. Many do it because they think it will result in a more accurate hole but when going through with the final size the bit can be pulled off to one side when it catches on the sharp edge of the hole. Best thing to do is spot with a spot drill of the same angle of the drill and then drill to final size. Also use screw machine length drills, not jobbers. If you get 135 deg jobbers you can often get away without spotting as they are as stiff as the spot drill.
SupermaxCNC 7 months ago
@SupermaxCNC Great tips. I will definitely try the 135 degree jobbers; would love to save a tool change!
saunixcomp 7 months ago
Nice work on the TTS tapping video, have you tried to tap a 1/2 inch thread yet? I am curious as to how well the head works with larger diameter cutters. They spec it for 1/2 inch but is that in aluminum or steel? Have you used it in any steel at all? I am using a CNC Converted RF45 mill with a sensorless vector and belt drive much like the tormach and I am seriously thinking about purchasing the tension compression tap head from them. What is your overall opinion of the quality of the unit ?
PetefromTn 1 year ago
@PetefromTn Thanks! No, have not. I'll give it a try in the coming months I'm sure. I can't answer aluminum versus steel, but I'm sure some of that has to do with what type of steel. I'm sure 12L14 is a lot easier than 4130. Also a question of thread depth. Using high quality taps is, obviously, a must. T/C head is great - seems like top quality and very pleased with the consistency and results.
saunixcomp 1 year ago
Can the Tormach do rigid tapping? I was also curious, can you use and "E" value for the feed/pitch of tap? In other words when I program a tap cycle at work with fanuc control I use a G84 (tap cycle) and the feed value is expressed as E. "E" is the tap pitch . 1/4-20 would be E20. What ever rpm is chosen the machine will caculate the feed it needs at that rpm. Its super easy and no caculateing any thing. The only time you need to caculate is with a metric tap. convert the metric to S.A.E. pitch
joleenmorganjohn 1 year ago
@joleenmorganjohn No, Tormach cannot do rigid tapping because it does not have a servo spindle. Calculating the Gcode to use the compression/tapping head is very easy.
saunixcomp 1 year ago
Do you have to worry about setting your R plane when you do all your drilling and tapping on the Tormach?
Link383 1 year ago
@Link383 No, the tapping code doesn't rely on a retract plane like a drilling cycle does; it simply G01's to a z-depth and then backs out. You can see sample code in my video above or at tormach.com/blog/?p=963
saunixcomp 1 year ago
@saunixcomp what are your thoughts on sprutcam ???
racingdave 1 year ago
@racingdave So far, it's exactly what I expected: it's a little tricky at first, but the video's have been incredibly helpful and it is clearly a very powerful piece of software, especially for the price. I've probably spent 8 hours in the software and 10 hours watching video tutorials and have already made half a dozen different parts - which is the best way to learn...
saunixcomp 1 year ago
I really love the "Bilz" style tap holders. Tthey are great. You might also look into Jacobs Rubberflex style too, they are also used with the Tapmatic 50X style tapping head which are nice too.
I have never had problems with the Bilz though. Go to the Bilz USA site and look at their products.
gbowne1 1 year ago
Hey what is G wizard ??
rfl3232 1 year ago
@rfl3232 See: go to google and type in "cnccookbook" and look for the G Code Wizard page.
gbowne1 1 year ago
Thank you for this series. I have been quite impressed with the Tormach. I never heard of them before your videos. Had I, I would probably not have bothered to convert my SX3 to CNC. Have you switched now from BobCad to Alibre? If so, what influenced your decision?
alan0166 1 year ago
@alan0166 Yes, using Alibre now. It's amazing. First off, if you aren't familiar with parametric CAD, it alone is worth the change. Overall, more powerful, more reliable and much more efficient...
saunixcomp 1 year ago
Wow bro, you make it look easy and simple., but for me it seems so complicated. I would love to have a CNC machine, but I would have to hire you to program it...lol
WestCoastMods 1 year ago
what model cnc are you using?
prototypetoday 1 year ago
@prototypetoday What do you mean 'what model cnc'?
saunixcomp 1 year ago
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gbowne1 1 year ago
@prototypetoday It's a Tormach PCNC1100. See the "tormachlabs" channel on YouTube.
gbowne1 1 year ago
Thanks for sharing.
antifactionprogman 1 year ago