A lot of pleasure horses are ridden with an extra long rein during schooling and training to keep their level headset. She is training correctly. He knew simple changes at the time. So when she asked for a flying lead change he refused. As you can see she did NOT beat on her horse's side with a whip or the spurs. And she did not yank the crap out of his mouth. She kept her patience and calmly corrected him. After he was corrected, he did the change.
A lot of you are being way too hard on the horse. The rider was learning and this horse was more willing than most! Horses ARE NOT MACHINES. They have feelings. They are not objects, slaves, or just there for you.
Horses have moods, and sometimes are not in good ones, JUST LIKE US. They may have a gassy stomach, that you are not even aware of, or worse, you just DON'T CARE, cuz YOU wanna ride today. reat your horses right, give them the respect and love they deserve. Give them a break!!
Apparently some people who commented this video were born knowing everything about working with horses and have never made training errors. Or maybe they think "hey, let's search YouTube videos and I'll make nasty comments on them so I sound like a world famous horse trainer." She's not doing anything to put the horse in danger. It's from three, yes 3, years ago. Chill out people and enjoy the kickass music and bitchin' horse.
@pinkcheezypoof Haha, thank you! With YouTube, you have to take the good with the bad. Can't let it get to you, just smile because only you can tell yourself you are inferior.
Just ignore the comments people make. it takes a good hand to train a horse that gets little tamtrums, i personally know its a pain in the but. but you look great and held on great. (i do agree about the reins being to long and your hands are a little high in it but im sure you see it now. 3 years ago lol) great vid. beautiful horse
you make excuses for your horses bad behavior. It will not get better, only worse. Just because a horse gets frustrated or confused, gives it no right to curse you. which is what this is horse is doing to you. i never was allowed to curse my parents out when they told me to clean my room or i was in a bad mood, i expect the same from my horses.
@lcnmb2008 You make a valid point. I don't know what else to say other than the rider is this video is me from three years ago and in this current time I would not allow my horse to get away with that. A horse should respect me and my space wholeheartedly.
@olegreycowboy You think this horse is upset at my manner of asking for a lead change, being overall unhappy with my training. Your hasty conclusion of my understanding of equine behavior is a bit insulting. Perhaps, this horse has an attitude that only comes out when he is asking for something he doesn't understand. Maybe he is just having a bad day. I feel your quick conclusion is unfair to the judgment of the horse or rider. Also, this video is over three years old.
@Phoenix015 you make excuses for your horses bad behavior. It will not get better, only worse. Just because a horse gets frustrated or confused, gives it no right to curse you. which is what this is horse is doing to you. i never was allowed to curse my parents out when they told me to clean my room or i was in a bad mood, i expect the same from my horses.
@marcieincooke Yes of course they do, If you read my comment it was in excalmation conotation to another comment made if you read further down you will see what i said about her hands too. :)
@Phoenix015 When your horse kicks to change lead, that is the start of learning how to change leads. With time the kicks will get smaller until they become proper changes....
@RihannaRocs Oh I know, I was just messing around with him and this was awhile ago. I have learned quite a bit since then. Thanks for taking the time for the advice though!
@schnubbi93 The reward was for the change. At this stage in the game a lot of horse are confused and off balance when learnign this with a rider on board so even if a "hop, skip, and a jump" is what it takes they still need to be rewarded for completing the task. Excellent work with him by the way! He is a sizeable boy!!!!
Wow what a lovely boy you got there & nice riding too. It don't matter about your hands or how long your reins are, your'e getting the job done - Your seat is lovely his head is where it should be and it looks as though you have lovley soft responsive hands. Well done! :)
btw your reins are to long and your hands go up to much. I am training my mare to do flying lead changes also. It takes time and patience but they will get it when they are ready.
Actually a horse cannot do lead changes at trot. Trots a 2 beat gait and lopes a 3 beat gait so we got one leading lead while we dont have one in trot. ; )
Im tryin to teach my American standard mare to flyin lead changes...the thing is...she does it but I never get her goin one circle in counter lope. Any ideas? shes just twistin her feet around and is neither goin lope nor trot...bet its not even a gait^^....
Make sure your horse has enough momentum to get the changes correctly. A lot of patience and practice need to go in to the lead change in order to master it (like anything). Your horse needs to build up strength and understand what you are asking is all. Sounds like you are on the right track!
Actually, they are. A trot is a two beat gate, there is no legs leading the stride. The lope has three beats, a left lead and a right lead. Are you sure you aren't getting the two confused?
well the thing is, i was watching videos on youtube and there was a video of a horse doing lead changes at the extended trot ... idk if thts possible but i saw it so idk
hahaha i already know. its just weird because i was at equine affaire and the horses were doing the weird pole pattern i had never seen at gymkhana or anything, but everytime the rider lead changed we shouted "ole" , and they were trotting, but idk
in stock horse type shows that is the way correctly their reins should be held (performance events can include western pleasure, hunt seat, western equitation, and even reining)
@pinkcheezypoof --- yeah, I kinda got that from the western saddle :) ha ha ... he's a nice horse, and we each teach our horses in different ways. This seems like a nice horse, and Im sure he got his flying lead changes no problem. Not sure why people are still arguing over this video? As the uploader did state its three years old ...
Either way, nice horse, and I hope his training is progressing nicely :)
Sorry I haven't responded. If you still need help, I will type it here anyway. First, you need to make sure you have complete control over your horses hips and shoulders in both directions. If you do, it should be too hard to get them to change leads. make sure your hours knows its leads perfectly. Then, speed up your horse, like I have here, and do figure eights, on the long straight, ask for the change, keep pushing for it until they change, even if you have to counter canter. Good luck!
Haha, it seems like i'm working on the opposite thing with my horse! He's very good at interrupted changes but getting him to slow down his jog - but not stopping - is ending up to be a pain. He's very consistent for a few days, but then one day he's a brat.
i love your horse! he has a very cool marking on his head to! i find if you lope them over a pole and get their shoulders up it helps, so when your loping over a pole and you cue him he is already to change! my horse is 10 and he is just like this horse and it seems to help him! just thought i would let you know :)
Thank you for the advice! I already knew of this, however, I don't teach this to them because they do trail, and I do not want them to know how to change leads over the pole. Thank you for the kind words!
so its easier to do a figure 8 to teach them a lead change? my mare is 9-10 and all she does is the countercanter lol i wudnt mind it but i'm trying to teach her to do barrels so shud i just keep doing that till she finnaly gets it? she hates to be slow though she wants to speed through all the circles and kill me lol
Ya, it is easier. When going for the change, keep counter cantering until they get the lead, then reward them with going on the correct lead. Haha, speed is good. Unfortunately, I know nothing about teaching a speed horse. But what I would recommend is that you have control before you add the speed. Make her wait for you.
if u speed up when doing the figure 8 in the middle, it's easier for them to change also. just a word of advice, my mare loooves them and i do barrels. once she learned them it made barrels easier for both of us.
teach her her aids for the canter (lope) departure.....make her very sure of herself with many good reinforcements and parctices (inside leg at the girth outside leg behind)put her on a long straight line and then when you finally turn....make sure thr turn puts her so that the lead she is on is on the OUTSIDE.....in several strides clearly switch YOUR aids...she'll be happy to rebalance herself and switch to the lead you just asked for...voila' her first flying lead change.
Hey just wondering if you have masterd it now? my loan pony sounds alot like him he is 14 and never been taught them he is very balence there fore counta canters perfectly so doesnt feel the need to change... the only way i can get him to change is onto his preferd lead by tapping him up although he likes to then just change the front any help would be appreciated! nice horse x
Eli has not mastered it. This was just one of those one time deals. I just wanted to see if he would, haha. With your horse, just keep tapping him until he changes in the back.
To help make it easier for him you might try asking him to take more weight on his hind end by doing rollbacks and collection. It is much harder to do a change if the horse has all of it's weight on it's front end.
yeah the way you did it in the second part is how I've taught mine to do flying changes. I like it because often when they're counter-cantering it's uncomfortable for them so they're more likely to switch leads when you ask. Then when they figure out the cue I try it through the middle...seems to work out.
yaaaaaaayy!!! you finally got it!!! hes looking soo nice!! yea watching it i was thinking of putting the idea of counter cantering then just letting him change and rewarding him with that shift of weight and light leg cue.....ya got it coverd!!!! nice job!!!
You can see that his trying to change the leads in the back end! Keep it up! Smart horse if he gets it within the 3rd attempt!
MrSugar757 5 months ago
A lot of pleasure horses are ridden with an extra long rein during schooling and training to keep their level headset. She is training correctly. He knew simple changes at the time. So when she asked for a flying lead change he refused. As you can see she did NOT beat on her horse's side with a whip or the spurs. And she did not yank the crap out of his mouth. She kept her patience and calmly corrected him. After he was corrected, he did the change.
EnglishCowgirl604 8 months ago
A lot of you are being way too hard on the horse. The rider was learning and this horse was more willing than most! Horses ARE NOT MACHINES. They have feelings. They are not objects, slaves, or just there for you.
Horses have moods, and sometimes are not in good ones, JUST LIKE US. They may have a gassy stomach, that you are not even aware of, or worse, you just DON'T CARE, cuz YOU wanna ride today. reat your horses right, give them the respect and love they deserve. Give them a break!!
WildHorseCristy 9 months ago
Apparently some people who commented this video were born knowing everything about working with horses and have never made training errors. Or maybe they think "hey, let's search YouTube videos and I'll make nasty comments on them so I sound like a world famous horse trainer." She's not doing anything to put the horse in danger. It's from three, yes 3, years ago. Chill out people and enjoy the kickass music and bitchin' horse.
pinkcheezypoof 1 year ago 6
@pinkcheezypoof Haha, thank you! With YouTube, you have to take the good with the bad. Can't let it get to you, just smile because only you can tell yourself you are inferior.
Phoenix015 1 year ago
Just ignore the comments people make. it takes a good hand to train a horse that gets little tamtrums, i personally know its a pain in the but. but you look great and held on great. (i do agree about the reins being to long and your hands are a little high in it but im sure you see it now. 3 years ago lol) great vid. beautiful horse
Countrygirldontcry88 1 year ago
you make excuses for your horses bad behavior. It will not get better, only worse. Just because a horse gets frustrated or confused, gives it no right to curse you. which is what this is horse is doing to you. i never was allowed to curse my parents out when they told me to clean my room or i was in a bad mood, i expect the same from my horses.
lcnmb2008 1 year ago
@lcnmb2008 You make a valid point. I don't know what else to say other than the rider is this video is me from three years ago and in this current time I would not allow my horse to get away with that. A horse should respect me and my space wholeheartedly.
Phoenix015 1 year ago
Need to get some help and understanding of behavioral issues before this horse (and others) is ruined for the future.
olegreycowboy 1 year ago
@olegreycowboy You think this horse is upset at my manner of asking for a lead change, being overall unhappy with my training. Your hasty conclusion of my understanding of equine behavior is a bit insulting. Perhaps, this horse has an attitude that only comes out when he is asking for something he doesn't understand. Maybe he is just having a bad day. I feel your quick conclusion is unfair to the judgment of the horse or rider. Also, this video is over three years old.
Phoenix015 1 year ago
@Phoenix015 It does not matter if this video is three years old or 25 years old. It is what it is.
olegreycowboy 1 year ago
@Phoenix015 you make excuses for your horses bad behavior. It will not get better, only worse. Just because a horse gets frustrated or confused, gives it no right to curse you. which is what this is horse is doing to you. i never was allowed to curse my parents out when they told me to clean my room or i was in a bad mood, i expect the same from my horses.
lcnmb2008 1 year ago
Cool vid:) your horse is soooo beautiful:) really glossy and well groomed:)
barrelhorserider7 1 year ago
you have a truely beautiful horse to match your beautiful riding :)
alexjoules 1 year ago
@marcieincooke Yes of course they do, If you read my comment it was in excalmation conotation to another comment made if you read further down you will see what i said about her hands too. :)
leilaminette 1 year ago
But at 2:09 your horse kicked with the left hind leg and you praised your horse after that..
schnubbi93 1 year ago
@schnubbi93 I don't understand?
Phoenix015 1 year ago
@Phoenix015 When your horse kicks to change lead, that is the start of learning how to change leads. With time the kicks will get smaller until they become proper changes....
RihannaRocs 1 year ago
@RihannaRocs Oh I know, I was just messing around with him and this was awhile ago. I have learned quite a bit since then. Thanks for taking the time for the advice though!
Phoenix015 1 year ago
@RihannaRocs yeah, thats what my horse does. She does it when she gets off balance. She does not have a lot of muscle yet.
LevelHazel27 1 year ago
@schnubbi93 The reward was for the change. At this stage in the game a lot of horse are confused and off balance when learnign this with a rider on board so even if a "hop, skip, and a jump" is what it takes they still need to be rewarded for completing the task. Excellent work with him by the way! He is a sizeable boy!!!!
HartleyMom 1 year ago
Wow what a lovely boy you got there & nice riding too. It don't matter about your hands or how long your reins are, your'e getting the job done - Your seat is lovely his head is where it should be and it looks as though you have lovley soft responsive hands. Well done! :)
leilaminette 2 years ago
btw your reins are to long and your hands go up to much. I am training my mare to do flying lead changes also. It takes time and patience but they will get it when they are ready.
AQHABABE1988 2 years ago 7
@AQHABABE1988 For certain bits you need loose contact in the reins. Mickmars are like this, as is anything with a shank of reasonable size.
ShinyTsubasa 10 months ago
Cait, that was not a lead change. You should use Germ for this video!
hesajim 2 years ago
Sure it was! It was just over exaggerated and unusual. Germ is just too easy. How do you like Texas?
Phoenix015 2 years ago
Actually a horse cannot do lead changes at trot. Trots a 2 beat gait and lopes a 3 beat gait so we got one leading lead while we dont have one in trot. ; )
Im tryin to teach my American standard mare to flyin lead changes...the thing is...she does it but I never get her goin one circle in counter lope. Any ideas? shes just twistin her feet around and is neither goin lope nor trot...bet its not even a gait^^....
gunnersSmokinReward 2 years ago
Make sure your horse has enough momentum to get the changes correctly. A lot of patience and practice need to go in to the lead change in order to master it (like anything). Your horse needs to build up strength and understand what you are asking is all. Sounds like you are on the right track!
Phoenix015 2 years ago
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horseridingbuckaroo 2 years ago
Actually, they are. A trot is a two beat gate, there is no legs leading the stride. The lope has three beats, a left lead and a right lead. Are you sure you aren't getting the two confused?
Phoenix015 2 years ago
well the thing is, i was watching videos on youtube and there was a video of a horse doing lead changes at the extended trot ... idk if thts possible but i saw it so idk
horseridingbuckaroo 2 years ago
I am SURE it was loping. There is no such thing as lead changes at the trot. I would be curious to see this video.
Phoenix015 2 years ago
hahah im not confused, i know a trot is 2 beat gait and the canter is a 3 beat gait
horseridingbuckaroo 2 years ago
Okay
Phoenix015 2 years ago
ah no, sorry lead changes are not possible at the trot because it is two beat, it's your responsibility for diagonals,
N1CH00L3 2 years ago
hahaha i already know. its just weird because i was at equine affaire and the horses were doing the weird pole pattern i had never seen at gymkhana or anything, but everytime the rider lead changed we shouted "ole" , and they were trotting, but idk
horseridingbuckaroo 2 years ago
I am sorry, but I do not understand your comment. Lead changes are impossible at the trot. do you mind elaborating?
Phoenix015 2 years ago
Nice horse, but what is the point of the tremendously long reins?
CMirgon 2 years ago 7
in stock horse type shows that is the way correctly their reins should be held (performance events can include western pleasure, hunt seat, western equitation, and even reining)
nice horse
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@CMirgon
Yeah... they are by your face, lol.
JumpAndRein 1 year ago
@CMirgon Western pleasure reins are longer than all getout. I'm pretty sure she rides western pleasure with how her posture is.
pinkcheezypoof 1 year ago
@pinkcheezypoof --- yeah, I kinda got that from the western saddle :) ha ha ... he's a nice horse, and we each teach our horses in different ways. This seems like a nice horse, and Im sure he got his flying lead changes no problem. Not sure why people are still arguing over this video? As the uploader did state its three years old ...
Either way, nice horse, and I hope his training is progressing nicely :)
-Cheers
CMirgon 1 year ago
hi iam training my mareand have been for a yr now but iam stuck on how iam going to go about teach lead change any tip u could give would help thnx?
horsepritty 3 years ago
Sorry I haven't responded. If you still need help, I will type it here anyway. First, you need to make sure you have complete control over your horses hips and shoulders in both directions. If you do, it should be too hard to get them to change leads. make sure your hours knows its leads perfectly. Then, speed up your horse, like I have here, and do figure eights, on the long straight, ask for the change, keep pushing for it until they change, even if you have to counter canter. Good luck!
Phoenix015 2 years ago
did you break him yourself or did you just train him for flying changes?
tophandcowgirl 3 years ago
actually, he is my mothers horse who we bought a couple of years ago. This was a one time thing to see if he could do it! Ha ha.
Phoenix015 3 years ago
oh cool!
tophandcowgirl 3 years ago
very nice =]
JoomieB 3 years ago
That's such a cutie of a horse!
vigneault67 3 years ago
And a cutie of a rider, too!!
sharx35 3 years ago
Haha, it seems like i'm working on the opposite thing with my horse! He's very good at interrupted changes but getting him to slow down his jog - but not stopping - is ending up to be a pain. He's very consistent for a few days, but then one day he's a brat.
Nice job, btw! I enjoy watching your videos! =D
marykatheringallagar 3 years ago
is he by all time fancy?
Misterbarstwo21 3 years ago
I wish. Ha ha. Unfortunately he is not. I love that horse and wouldn't mind having an offspring of his.
Phoenix015 3 years ago
i love your horse! he has a very cool marking on his head to! i find if you lope them over a pole and get their shoulders up it helps, so when your loping over a pole and you cue him he is already to change! my horse is 10 and he is just like this horse and it seems to help him! just thought i would let you know :)
kaitlynnn87 3 years ago
Thank you for the advice! I already knew of this, however, I don't teach this to them because they do trail, and I do not want them to know how to change leads over the pole. Thank you for the kind words!
Phoenix015 3 years ago
so its easier to do a figure 8 to teach them a lead change? my mare is 9-10 and all she does is the countercanter lol i wudnt mind it but i'm trying to teach her to do barrels so shud i just keep doing that till she finnaly gets it? she hates to be slow though she wants to speed through all the circles and kill me lol
DiamondGirl091 3 years ago
Ya, it is easier. When going for the change, keep counter cantering until they get the lead, then reward them with going on the correct lead. Haha, speed is good. Unfortunately, I know nothing about teaching a speed horse. But what I would recommend is that you have control before you add the speed. Make her wait for you.
Phoenix015 3 years ago
if u speed up when doing the figure 8 in the middle, it's easier for them to change also. just a word of advice, my mare loooves them and i do barrels. once she learned them it made barrels easier for both of us.
cowgirljess718 3 years ago
teach her her aids for the canter (lope) departure.....make her very sure of herself with many good reinforcements and parctices (inside leg at the girth outside leg behind)put her on a long straight line and then when you finally turn....make sure thr turn puts her so that the lead she is on is on the OUTSIDE.....in several strides clearly switch YOUR aids...she'll be happy to rebalance herself and switch to the lead you just asked for...voila' her first flying lead change.
twomblypublishing 3 years ago
Yeah... the first three times were simples! Right?
iShowCuties 3 years ago
Hey just wondering if you have masterd it now? my loan pony sounds alot like him he is 14 and never been taught them he is very balence there fore counta canters perfectly so doesnt feel the need to change... the only way i can get him to change is onto his preferd lead by tapping him up although he likes to then just change the front any help would be appreciated! nice horse x
shetlandponygirl 3 years ago
Eli has not mastered it. This was just one of those one time deals. I just wanted to see if he would, haha. With your horse, just keep tapping him until he changes in the back.
Phoenix015 3 years ago
To help make it easier for him you might try asking him to take more weight on his hind end by doing rollbacks and collection. It is much harder to do a change if the horse has all of it's weight on it's front end.
TaylorMadePony 3 years ago
yeah the way you did it in the second part is how I've taught mine to do flying changes. I like it because often when they're counter-cantering it's uncomfortable for them so they're more likely to switch leads when you ask. Then when they figure out the cue I try it through the middle...seems to work out.
reiningrules 4 years ago
Cool, very cool. Unfortunately, this horse does a lot of counter canter, so he is used to that. Makes it hard to train him. Thanks for the advice!
Phoenix015 4 years ago
lol that was cute
iconfusemyself4107 4 years ago
that was funny..he got the front..then bucked and got the back..=]]
hipersonhello 4 years ago
lol that was good.
All he had to do was buck into the change. lol
georgiaglorygirl 4 years ago
yaaaaaaayy!!! you finally got it!!! hes looking soo nice!! yea watching it i was thinking of putting the idea of counter cantering then just letting him change and rewarding him with that shift of weight and light leg cue.....ya got it coverd!!!! nice job!!!
razrbladefaerie 4 years ago