This whole discusion has gotten off topic. Nuclear weapons and high tech weaponry is irrelevant. A man can die from a heavy stone to his head or from a 15 MT air blast. It's the principle of the "Golden Hammer": which bug is more dead? Dead doesn't get any deader no matter the amount force applied. No offense, but you are making flawed associations.
Be advised. Hinceforth I will moderate this discussion. Your multiple, rambling posts and your lack of respose to my questions are now a thing of the past.
We were talking about the advise of the founding fathers. War and international relations are not the same as in Washington's day. This is no slight against Washington Jefferson. What would these brilliant thinkers say about "foreign entanglements" if they were ALIVE TODAY? Respond or be blocked.
No problem. Block me. I thought you were growing out of your little world. Guess not. The next few years are going to be a real shock for you. I hope you make it through. You are going to reap the sum of your foolishness. A warning: Do not be so sure that you know a thing. Wise men fear their own ignorance, while the fool takes comfort in his knowledge.And REMEMBER: we "Paultards" are crazy!!! It's not like Ron Paul predicted this $700 bill power grab or anything.For old guy you need to grow up
Oh? WHEN did Mr Paultard predict anything except the END OF THE WORLD? Bush and McCain and Allen Greenspan warned about the reckless behavior of Fannie Mae but the Dumb-crats said Fannie Mae was perfectly sound. The Dumb-orates said that the Repubs didn't want the poor to have roofs over their heads, remember. I am blocking your ass because you refuse to address my comments to you. My video comment sections are NOT a platform for your communist propaganda. Have a nice day.
rofl my favorite part was when you got him to say that he loved the privately owned "federal" reserve because "congress can BORROW money".
the congress has the authority and power to create its own money with NO INTEREST! they do not need to have a "federal" reserve giving them loans at MASSIVE interest that can NEVER be paid off.
this "bail out" is the "federal" reserve taking full ownership of all real value in exchange for funny money it prints out of thin air. have fun in the fema camps!
The bail out is just another patch job of IT'S sea of RED INK! Carter, Clinton, Chris Dodd, Joe Biden and BARNEY FRANK caused this mortgage default meltdown. Congress created the banking regulations that almost FORCED banks to lend to UNQUALIFIED home buyers.
The Fed? All the Fed does is to ATTEMPT TO balance the desire for full employment with the desire to keep inflation in check. They were given this mandate BY CONGRESS.
The government governs at our sufferance. That is a priveledge that WE MAY REVOKE when ever we choose. WE have the right to tear down the goverment and build a new one.
I did a lot of digging on Ron Paul and the more searched the more alarmed I became. This guy I had thought to be crackpot didn't have any dirt. I couldn't help but admire the man the more I learned about him. Then I found that I couldn't ignore him anymore. I still didn't quite agree with him but I began to investigate things further. I began reading senate and house bill, and executive orders. Things started to add up in ways I didn't like.
I can only suggest that you begin disconnecting yourself from the mass media. The media is propaganda tool that furthers the agenda of the powerful few. Our two party system has become a farce. It's a sham. This elections a sham. Never in the history of our nation have two candidates run from the two parties who were so nearly identical as McCain and Obama. The difference between them is a hoax.
I am largely disconnected (except for the Internet) already. Tell me about the "movement" that knows the inside poop. Why is this movement so special? How do you know it can be trusted?
As silly as it sounds, It started when I actually decided to investigate Ron Paul. I had already seen a lot of rumors and theories as are common on the internet, but some things stuck in my mind and I couldn't easily dismiss them. I suppose I was afraid at first to look to closely at Ron Paul. I didn't want to like the man, because I figured I'd just find something about him that would disapoint me. The problem was I couldn't.
I watch a few politcal videos on youtube. I have seen videos of RP interview with Russert and interview on Leno show. I was impressed with RP's handling of himself (but I still felt his ideas were unrealistic.) I found him likable. A third interview I saw was the hachet job by Bill O'Reiley. It made Paul look like an idiot (but I thought Paul deserved it.) The 4th vid I saw was Paul's scolding of Berneke (Fed chairman) and I really thought it was uncalled for.
One day not too long ago, something clicked in my head. It wan't pleasant. Suddenly, I found myself at an impass. I could no longer reconcile the actions of my governement with the common good and Constitution. I couldn't justify it anymore. I still feel embarraced that I could have been so guilable before. I really real shame. I began to learn more about our Founding Fathers and what they had to go through. They more than anything finally put me where I am.
Here is what concerns me about your story. Two things. You have attended protest rallies. Never in a million years would I do that.
Two, and it is my MAIN one. I have evidence that your "grassroots movement" is not nearly as grassroots as it may appear on the surface. RP had the benifit of a huge spamming network. Plus RP acknowledges that he would be nothing without Alex Jones. Please think about this.
I couldn't pretend anymore. Now it's as though I've stepped back from everything and I can see it all for the first time. Shit makes sense that never made sense before. I'm more conservative than I ever was. I'm no pacifist, but I had to acknowedge the virtue and rightness of our Constitution above my own petty instincts. All it takes is for one of us to lose one of our liberties and we all are made slaves. For the Constitution to fall they need only undermine ONE FREEDOM.
My friend, the Founding Fathers never left us!!! We have their words and dreams here with us now. In their day, they were often characterized as dangerous radicals and agents of anarchy. These ideals are still "radical" to this very day! As evidence of this I point out the general standard of liberty in the world today were so many people live under oppressive regimes and the people have no liberty.
Mr. Slick McGoo, you know full well that I was not talking about "liberty." I was clearly referring to the way THE WORLD has "shrunk" as a result of VAST improvements in transportation, communications and WEAPONRY. (I'll refresh your memory. You were lecturing me about how we must not upset the Russians by building a missile defense system to protect us from the Topol-M which they began deploying in the late 1980s.)
Ron Paul supporters represent a growing movement in this country of citizens who are actuall willing to stand us and to "BE THE CHANGE" instead of asking others to please give it to them. WE DO NOT HAVE TO ASK FOR ANYTHING. It is ours to TAKE when we please. If you must ASK for a thing then it was never yours to begin with. If you must ASK the government for a restoration of you Liberty then you never had liberty to begin with. It becomes a priveledge convered by the government.
I say again, you are off topic and you know it. What does "asking for liberty" have to do with high tech weaponry? We were examining MISSILE DEFENSE. I mentioned that Thomas Jefferson could not have envisioned the 21st century. Review the thread, pal.
Terry, that is one of the greatest compliments I have ever gotten in my whole life. But as far as "making a difference," I think that youtube (and my website) is all I have. I sincerely hope to influence a few who will, in turn, influence a few others.
This is all I've got. I don't know how effective this will be. I can only hope.
For me possibly the most convincing element of all of this is the grassroots nature of the movement. Americans from all walks of life and political persuasions are being converted to the cause on mass. Even former liberal democrats are being converted into the conservative constitutional found abandoning entirely their old big government ideals. People have become frightened. There are a lot of groups who are trying to discredit the movement with false associates and extremist dogma.
"There are a lot of groups who are trying to discredit the movement." I am not part of any group. My opinions are from first hand (Internet) contact with his backers from around the world. I found SOME of these people to be nice but the majority were childish and arrogant in their ignorance (as I myself pretended to be, only for effect, and to test your sincerity.)
The movement is still fragmented and still doesn't have much of a sense of itself. Fortunately, the ones who do more than talk are those who uphold the Jeffersonian ideal and are true Republicans. Most of us are more silent than myself. There are over 100,000 of us who are official affiliated with the movement. And there are hundreds of thousands more who do our work.
You may have gathered that I have a soft spot for many of the "ronbots." If I didn't like them I could easily just ignore them. I yank at their chains because I care.
Your group's "fascination" with Jefferson is troubling. Here's why. Jefferson was a very bright man ...IN HIS DAY. Jefferson could not have imagined how small our world has become. The once wide Atlantic is now only a narrow creek transversed by numerous bridges. In Jefferson's day the high ground in battle was a mound of earth. Today the high ground is SPACE. Times have changed.
Times may have changed but yet truth remains and what was virtuous then is virtuous still. Jefferson was the author of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution. I would argue that while Washington was a father to the American people, Jefferson was the father of the American Republic. Jefferson's wisdom was a simple wisdom, the truth which is not diminished by its simplicity. His ideals of Liberty, Justice, Equality, and Fortitude are precisely those ideals we need so badly today.
Don't be silly, I was only speaking figuratively. What is truly fightening is that so MANY Americans are noticing it too. I might not even believe it myself if it weren't for the mass movement which is growing in America and the very visible steps the system is taking to suppress the movement.
And no it doesn't take years of expertise, it just takes an observant nature enough knowledge about how the world truly works to see through mass deception that seems to be reality. YOu live in a world that in a sense is similiar to the movie "The Matrix". You live in a world where your life is ordered by people you don't even know exist.You are plugged into the mass media and are not able to adequately separate what is real from what is fantasy. The entire country is being manipulated.
The whole world is being manipulated. Unscrupuluous men have dictated US policy from the shadows for quite some time now. It might come as a suprise to you that a known to commonly be under CIA and NSA employ crashed in Mexico last year carrying 3.2 tons of pure uncut cocaine.
It is really difficult when you start coming around to the truth. I didn't want to believe it at first. I was just like you. No one converted me, I converted myself. I couldn't ignore the facts anylonger. It really hurt and still hurts. This is one of the most depressing things I've ever had to deal with. I wish to God it wasn't true, but it is. Things are going down here that the general public is completely oblivious to. Everybodies sitting too close to the TV to notice whats going on.
Yeah, I live in the same "Matrix" as everyone else including you. Those inside the matrix have the silly idea that they are the only ones aware of the matrix; everyone else thinks HE is the only one who knows.
Russia has proven on multiple occasions to be willing to back down, when their is mutual benefit to be had in agreement. You can always count on the Russians to be duplicitous but in international diplomacy you can also bind them to their own words and promises under the right conditions.
Yeah, yeah. I say again. You are too damn well informed to be a 29-year-old. I am not "talking" to the "original McGoo." How many are using this keyboard? I'm afraid you blew it, GENTLEMEN. (PLURAL.)
Some analysis predict the US dollar Russian Rubel might lose 50% of their value over the next year as a consequence of massive inflation. America is on the verge of massive changes the likes of which we have never seen before. This time next year it's going to look pretty damn scary. It's as though America is being eaten alive and we didn't feel the first bite until after both our legs were already gone.
Regardless of Russia's motives, the actions and attitudes of US and NATO policy are pushing things to a head with Russia far sooner than need be. Boths sides are posturing, and letting the hammer down on propaganda. The war of words and rhetoric has turned relations very sour. Russias economy believe it or not is in even worse condition than our own and they are on the verge of massive callapse just as we are.
err, umm...wait, wait...Oh kay, I had a point to make but I forgot what it was...something about being attacked, being weak, vikings (football) no, no, dernit...long pause...
what's the name of that song The Weakness In Me
watch?v=1pjMwzujbHE
I wonder who will conquer America in her weakness...the vikings?
Terry, I think -- and hope -- this gurumagoo is actually a very good guy. He is the smartest Marine I have ever come across. Check out his comments. (Wake up first.)
Their concern is simple. They can either believe that a highly sophisticated tracking and airspace control system place along their border is defend against Iran, which is 1,000 miles away and possess no missiles capable attacking Western Europe let alone the US, or they can choose to believe the array is set against them. If you consider American reaction should Russia place offensive military forces in Cuba or Venezuela the Russian reaction is not surprising.
I have not looked into the REASONS Bush wants this shield. I would have thought it was for the protection of NATO against RUSSIAN aggression. I think Russia acted FIRST and we responded with the missile shield (which give us boost phase intercept capability.)
Weapons systems like ballistic missile sheilds are extremely dangerous. One begins to think they might actually be able to win a nuclear war. The Ruskies have around 4,500 nukes the last time I checked. You can't intercept em all. Russia employs a "Massive Nuclear Retaliatory Counterstrike Doctrine" whereby in the even of an attack the system has a "dead-hand" switch which would automatically carry out a massive counterstrike the Russian leadership was killed in a decapitation strike.
What are talking about. Are drunk or something. And I'm not 29 I'm 27. My knowledge is the result of an extensive education and the life experience gained from two foreign wars and a foreign wife.
Dude, it would years of expertise to master all the topics "you" have covered in 6 hours today. If you are so damned smart, why can't you spell "McGoo" you own name? Here's why. You (plural) are not "magoo" to whom I began commenting to a couple of days ago. Address my concerns, please.
If you look at Russian missile development over the past 8 years it is only congruent with similiar US developments in technologies which would neutralize Russia's strategic arsenal. You have to understand that Russia's ICBM's are pretty much ALL they've got. Their conventional military is little more than a rabble running around with 20 year old junk. The Russians are extremely paranoid when it comes to their last line of deterence against what they perceive as a more aggressive and bold NATO.
Since '99 our government has become bolder and bolder. In the recent protest actions, the FBI, and Secret Service has been infiltrating protest organizations with police who urge them to take violent and even terrorist action. FBI and the Secret Service have also placed plain clothes officers in crowds of protesters to randomly assault protesters in an effort to incite violence and provide them with provocation for for mass arrest and police assaults on the protesters.
Guru, the same thing happened in the late 60s. Our FBI knew that these protests were created by communist agents. The "cold war" was real. Most people are told that the cold war ENDED. The truth is, it did not. I swear to you. Putin has been building OFFENSIVE ballistic missiles for years, MIRV warheads that can penetrate all our defenses. WHY? (Google the word, Bulava.)
The Russians have an extreme preoccupation when it comes to what they percieve as territorial encroachment. Most Russians, view the former Soviet Republics and being strictly within their sphere of influence. They GREATLY resent NATO encroachment in these former Soviet Republics, and it is commonly seen as a deliberate and bald faced challenge to Russian security. The one thing you can always count on the Russians to do is to react VERY badly when they feel threatened.
At any rate, placing an extremely sophisticated radar tracking array within close enough range to directly track all air activity to great depth within the Russian interior can only piss the Russians off. The addition of an equally sophisticated battery of SAM's along the Russian military border with NATO gives the NATO the ability to intercept air targest at long range within Russian airspace.
The Russians percieve that they are being encircled. As a result, they are embarking on a massive military modernization and upgrade program designed to bring the Russian military back up to near Cold War standards in just under 7 years. The resent conflict in Georgia is symptomatic of the new Russia/NATO relations. Russia had hoped they might make a lightening strike against Georgia, quickly seize the country before the world could react and force the West to deal with Russia more favorably.
I disaggree. I think Georgia wants to be independant AND to control the oil inside their territory. I think Georgia acted on it's own to "break away."
Georgia has no oil, but only an oil pipeline from the east. The West has sought to exploit this pipeline and break Russias near monopoly on Central Asian oil fields. Coincidentally elements of this pipeline are connected with the Haliburton pipeline in Afghanistan.
The plan was hinged upon seizing the oil pipe line. But too many things went wrong. Putin underestimated the moral ambiguity for his provocation. He also failed to anticipate how swiftly and angrily the West would react. The Russian military performed well under exeptations, and they failed to reach Tblisi soon enough to depose Saakaskvili.
I kinda figured it had to do with that pipeline. But. If NATO was really the bad guy, as you seem to think, NATO can cut off that oil at any point in the Black Sea or the Mediterranean. But WHY would NATO want to steal Russia's oil? Because Russia is growing too strong? I don't get it.
All I can tell you is that I do understand how vital that pipeline is to Russia. So you are telling me that NATO is the aggressor? Wouldn't it be much easier to let Russia keep that pipe line UNLESS Nato really beieved that Russsia was bent on re-creating its former self (as a "new USSR")?
Russia isn't so much playing the aggressor as they truly feel that it is we who are pissing in their backyard. NATO expansion in Eastern Europe and Asia has been extremely rapid. We have every reason to believe that if the Ukraine joins NATO, the Russians will perceive this as an act of blatant aggression and perhaps even as an act of war. NATO expansion has forced Russia to reach out to other countries on poor terms with the US, including Venezuela, China, Cuba, India, and even Iran.
The one thing we are doing faster than anything else, is helping our enemies and potential enemies to find common cause against us. We are unifying them. Experience has shown that they only way to deal with Russia is with aggressive diplomatic engagement. Where Russia goes, the others follow. If you delay or pacify Russia then the others become less bold and more cooperative. With Russia you have to stand your ground and keep talking to them. When you stop talking you end up with Cuban Mis Cris.
McGoo, I have to tell you that my suspecions of you are growing again. You don't seem to be the same person I started talking to (yesterday or the day before). I really believe YOUR HANDLERS have taken over the keyboards. That's the feeling I get. RSVP.
How long have you been such a passifist? If you were a (smart) passifist BEFORE YOU JOINED THE MARINES, it can only mean that you are a "plant." What do you say to that?
Alex Jones is a nut case but even a nutt case can be right sometimes. He has been warning of the dangerous exposion in governmental powers and activity for more than 10 years. He warned of the 911 attacks before they occured, and he has exposed numerous frightening activities undertaken by our government. More than that he even provides video footage to proove he's not making it up.
I graduated high school in 1997 and went to school for 1 1/2 years. Enlisted in the Marines. Went to Bosnia in 1999. Went to school on active duty from late 1999-late 2002. Got my bachelors in 2001 and my masters in late 2002. I was with 1st MEF in the invasion. I don't give a shit whether a chickenshit punk like you believes me or not.
Yesss I've heard of Sarajevo, its the capital of Bosnia and no I've never been there. I spent my deployment in and around Pristina. And yesss I've heard of the Second Battle of Fallujah. I was in RCT-7 in the first push at Second Fallujah. Anything else?
No, sir. well... yeah, there is one more thing. Why do you have the talking points of International ANSWER down pat ...and why to you listen to ALEX JONES?? Surely, you know he is fake...
A proper education? You mean like at a university? Yeah I got one of those. It's called a Masters degree. Try a masters in Mathematics and Bachelors in Physics with a double minor in history and political science. Oh yeah...and I taught at the United States Naval Academy for 2 years.
Their only solution is to print more money which is backed by nothing, to bail out the economy, which will send inflation SOARING to levels we have never seen before. We are standing at the edge of an ABYSS. Our economy is in utter ruin and we have NOTHING to fall back on. Your "conservative" president has overseen the greatest expansion of the government, its power, and federal spending since the CIVIL WAR. We currently spend nearly $700 BILLION dollars on defense. THAT IS UNPRECEDENTED.
The invasion of Iraq was ILLEGAL. Don't you get it? We went to war under false pretenses. Our military is stretched to the breaking point. We no longer have adaquate forces available to defend ourselves or our allies if any new conflict erupts. We went into and stayed in Iraq claiming to be furthering the aims of democracy and freedom while supporting a military dictator who overthrew a democratically elected government in Pakistan. What hypocrisy!!! Are you blind!!!
The only thing I have left to say to you is get a damn education. You need one in the worst way. You're dumber than a bag of hammers. But don't just take my word for it. I've got friends. Seems like they've made their opinion of your intelligence clear on this stupid videos ratings.
uh, YOUR friends gave me those ratings, fruitcake. You could not posibly have a MASTERS DEGREE IN PHYSICS. Wanna know why I know you are a fake? Wanna know? Huh?
A differential equation is merely an equation designed to find an unknown function with possibly many variable inputs which is useful in many things such as economics engineering and other sciences. Newtonian physics deal with principles of motion, establish the law of universal gravitation and form the basis for Classical Mechanics, which deals with large stellar objects and even mechanical engineering and is coupled with Special Relativity.
Umm.... Cuz you said you didn't? If I can't trust YOU, who CAN I trust, my friend! Sorry for all the trouble. Thanks for serving your country so well. You are a giant. I salute you. Again, I apologize for "testing" you. Forgive me?
I've seen it with my own eyes. Journalist who witness these activities are being assaulted by police, their film destroyed, and their gear confiscated. Prior to the conventions the FBI organized raids on independent media offices who planned to cover the protest and illegally confiscated their equipment. Many journalists who were flying to Minneapolis were not allowed to board their planes for unknown reasons. At some point you have to become alarmed.
My friend. Really. The FBI has been tracking these people. The FBI KNOWS they are plants. YOUR fellow Marines know it too! These "jounalists" LIE ABOUT what they see in Iraq.
"Money which is backed by nothing"? American workers and American productivity is "nothing"? American-style CAPITALISM is the fountain of wealth! THIS is where wealth COMES FROM.
Dude, you clearly have burried your head in the sand. You don't know what the hell is going. American money is backed by nothing but AMERICAN DEBT, and all we do is print more of it and accumulate more debt. You are an uneducated IDIOT. You don't know SHIT about economics. Oh you got all the snappy slogans down but you don't know anything else for SHIT. You would have made a swell SS Einsatzgruppen kommandant. You believe everything your masters feed you. You're such a loser. GOOD DAY DUMBASS.
Are you the SAME PERSON I have been talking to for the past several days??? You started out mighty damn dumb. You are spouting the line of International ANSWER (a communist front) WORD 4 WORD!
When was the last time you saw pieces of your friends scattered out over 50 yards of sand after your friendly Iraqi security forces planted a 155mm howlitzer shell under the damn highway? When was the last time you had to pick through pieces of your friends remains to find their Dog Tags. When was the last time you had to write a letter to someones family to tell them their son died on some nameless road in the middle nowhere? I wrote five of those fucking letters asshole.
And no, I was good Marine. I have a Bronze Star, a National Commendations medal, a Purple Heart, two National Achievment Medals, and a set of Captains bars to prove it. You want pictures? You talk of legality, and completely ignore the Constitution which grants sole authority to Congress for waging war, not the President. We CANNOT go to war without a Declaration of War from Congress.
It's as plain as day that you have no idea what a conservative is. You are nothing but a deluded big government federalist, who has no respect for Constitution. You are a NEO-CON. You are a liberal posing as a conservative. But thank you. Your words here have exposed your true colors and your utter contempt for our beloved Constitution. You did it better than I could I have. "Legal-smeagal"? My Constitution is a sacred document sir, which I swore an oath to defend against ALL enemies.
In an emergency, talk about "big government" must be suspended. In PEACE TIME, I want a very limited role for government. I would be happy if the Congress worked one day a week!
You've gotta be fucking kidding me. Is that the best you can do? Electromagnetism is a mechanics of an electromagnetic field which places a force on particles which posses an electric charge d by the presence and is effected by the motion and angular velocity of those particles. An electron has no mass and possess a negative charge. And nice try on the alpha particle thing. ELECTRONS HAVE NO MASS, and protons and neutrons do. Alpha Particles are to elect. and two protons in a helium nucleus.
You know nothing of Patriotism. I AM A MARINE. I have actually stood in harms way with a rifle in my hands and a pack on my back. I have actually been shot at in the service of my country. What the hell have you done coward? I served my country for 6 years, making meager pay, while the government pays mercenaries a minimum of $130,000 a year to do the same job. I've seen my fellow Marines blown away by these Iraqis you think love us so much.
Not everybody is cut out to be a Marine. You goofed. You should have stayed your sorry ass at home. (McDonald's wasn't hiring?)
Naw. Truthfully, you have been indoctrinated. You have been worked over HARD. Think back. How did this process of brainwashing start? Who contacted you first. Think.)
And you are such a coward to hide behind such petty accusations. Your only weapon is to call me a communist when I am more truly conservative than you are. What you really hate is our Constitution and the liberties it guarantees us, which your hero Bush has so methodically and deceifully subverted. You and your Naziesque Patriot Act which has nothing to do with American Patriotism at all. The Patriot Act is illegal and I and millions of others do not recognize it. We spit on it.
Are you saying you don't like the Patriot Act? Well... Okay.... But be careful. You might go to jail if you act up. (You could also get famous like your pal Angela Davis too, but it ain't likely.)
You simply don't get it do you? Look at what's going on around you. The government is running the country into the ground. The true deficit is nearly $50 TRILLION dollars (the $10 trillion dollar amount they quote is only the debt we owe on money borrowed to pay on previous debt). That's almost $170,000 per citizen, and equals the total net worth of ALL AMERICAN HOUSEHOLDS. Our corrupt government and their FED bank masters have begun nationalizing the countries financial institutions.
I love the Fed. They are doing a fine job. Because of them, the CONGRESS can borrow (not the President) to fund wars and other emergencies. Take away the Fed and you have crippled the GREATEST NATION ON EARTH. (I know what your plan is.)
Right. Well then you keep on loving the FED. They have done nothing but victimize this country for that past century and strip it of its wealth. And you have the gall to call me a communist???? You sir, are no more a conservative than than Ted Kennedy, and you know NOTHING of conservative values. People like me, want to cut the Federal goverment in half, restore states rights, abolish the illegal income tax, withdraw from NAFTA, and do commerce with ALL NATIONS.
umm... the Fed controls the money supply by setting the rate at which they will loan to other banks.... How does that "strip the country of its wealth"?
People like you make me sick. To people like you Patriotism means supporting the government in all its discisions even at the expense of others whether just or unjust. But you are not a Patriot at all. An American Patriot believes in the Constitution about all else, and will fight for Right and Justice even if that pits them against the government. A Patriot's duty is to the American People and to their Constitution and not to the government.
Finally. You said the truth. "A Patriot's duty is to the American People and to their Constitution and not to the government." Praise GEEEE-sus! You got it right!
Fourth Amendment: The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized. Why then is the NSA, FBI, and CIA spying on American citizens without warrants or probable cause?
Now we threaten Iran yet again. We have encircled them and are even threatening an invasion.
Meanwhile whe have also encircled Russia. We are currently construction a missile defense sheild in Eastern Europe along Russia's military frontier with Poland while claiming it is aimed at defending Europe and America from missiles Iran doesn't have. Their are NATO forces in Central Asia to Russias south, and in ALL of Eastern Europe from the Baltic to the Balkans and even soon in Georgia and Ukraine.
I LOVE this video. It is some of my best work. I am not surprised that it has already altered the course of human civilization. I should get the Mobile Peas Prize for this.
It's hardly suprising that you would seek simple world where everything is either one thing or the other. You use a narrow event and attempt to discredit a sweeping idea based upon it. As I've said before, you have a very poor and single minded understanding of history.
ya'll ain't never gave me no prooofff! Why caint ya'll ever gimmi no proooffff? Y must we take Osama's word on it? Is Osama not an international fooogitive who kills people?
WHY IS BEN LADEN YOUR FRIGGIN HERO? I'll answer that FOR YOU, nit wit. It's because you are a god damned communist punktard, ain't that right?
You choose to ignore the fact that the US is largely responsible for the creation of the modern radical Islamic movement. The US through it's intelligence agencies went to great effort to stir up radical Islamic furvor against the Soviets in Afghanistan and Pakistan. These same countries later became the staging ground and home base for Al-Queda. You conveniently ignore American conduct towards Iran, which has been nothing short of criminal. You might even call it "TERRORISM".
Let me paint you a picture. 1953-the CIA overthrows a democratically elected government in Iran and istalls the Shah in order to prevent the nationalization of Iran's oil fields. 1953-1979-the US supports both monetarily and militarily a brutal regime that ravages the Iranian people. 1980 to 1988-the US pushes Iraq into invading Iran in order to retake control of the Iranian oil fields. The US supplies billions of dollars and even Chemical weopons which kill thousands of Iranian civilians.
Talking points aside, the Shah was already "ruler" of Iran. Mossy Deck was an unstable elected official who nationalized (stole) the petroleum infrastructure owned by what was to be later known as BP. He was making friendly with the Soviets. THE CIA DIDN'T OVERTHROW NOBODY! "It is the policy of THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT AND THE BRITISH GOVERNMENT to protect the Iranian people from falling into the hands of YOUR PALS IN THE KREMLIN. (What's the big deal?)
Meanwhile, the US supplies money and material aid to Iranian dissadents to undermine their war efforts. Half a million Iranians die in the war. July 3, 1988-an American cruiser, shoots down Iranian Air Flight 655, while flying in Iranian air-space and along standard flight routes killing 240 innocent people. To this day the US has not apologized for this outrageous act of naked aggression.
Gulf War-US sends troops to Saudi Arabia which is Islamic holy ground.
The downing of that plane was a horrible error. Shame on you for trying to make political hay over the lose of innocent Iranians. (Rot in hell, dirt bag.)
17 years after the conclusion of the Gulf War the US military remains in Saudi Arabia despite widespread Islamic outrage over this. 2001-US supports a military dictator in Pakistan while claiming to be working to spread the message of freedom and democracy. 2003-US invades Iraq, after having bombed Iraq for 10 years prior to the invasion (I bet you never heard that on Fox News).
The US invades with the Casus belli of seeking to disarm Iraq of its Weapons of Mass Destruction, which it no longer has. Ironically, these would have been weapons like those which WE gave to Iraq to kill Iranians. 5 years pass and hundreds of thousands of Iraqis have been killed. The great and just America now holds people without charge, trial, or council indefinitely, and even tortures prisoners. Islamic peoples in America endure terrible harrassment at the hands of our government.
The Iraqis love the USA. I know. I have heard from both the Iraqis and from our fine soldiers and Marines. In fact, they tell me that it is YOUR FRIENDS in the communist press who are the real problem. What have you got to say for yourself? Why is yours the party of lies?
Dude, the UNITED NATIONS resolution 678 ordered Saddam to ditch the weapons programs. Saddam broke his agreement.
Why did so many Iraqis die? What killed them? DO YOU KNOW? WHAT KILLED THOSE KIDS?
*WHO* killed those kids? The answer is, SADDAM KILLED THOSE KIDS ...by diverting chlorine from the water treatment plants SO THAT he could continue to make MUSTARD GAS!
But you know what?!?! You're right! Russia's growing hostility against the US and NATO wouldn't have anything at all to do with our provacative and aggressive acts would it? No way. A NATO backed Georgia killing over 1,000 Russian citizens in South Ossetia would never make the Russians upset with us. It certainly wouldn't cause them to invade Georgia would it? And 27 NATO warships in the Black Sea wouldn't cause the Russians to seek military alliances with Venezuela and Cuba would it? NO WAY!!!!
Russia invaded Georgia. Georgia wanted to join NATO. Get a life. (See why you are called "paultards"? You just ain't very patriotic, are you? You're a NUT.
You think Russia is joining with Cuba and Venezuela for its own DEFENCE? You're incapable of the truth. Putin is flexing his muscles. Chaves is prancing like a peacock. If the USA wasn't such a "nice" people we would have castrated those clowns long ago! lol!
You are such a brainwashed mormon. You wanna talk about the Constitution? OK. Article I, Section 8, clause 11- only Congress has the power to declare war, not the President. Fifth Amendemnt; NO PERSON may be deprived of life, liberty, or property without DUE PROCESS OF LAW or be compelled to be a witness against themselves as in the case of TORTURE. Sixth Amendment: the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy & public trial, by an impartial jury and to be confronted with the evidence.
I ask again. Do you have a basic understanding of the Constitution? You are not "natural born," are you? Where are your people from originally? Come back and talk to me after you have gotten a proper education.
Wrong dummy, the Constitution is very explicit. It doesn't say citizens will enjoy due process of law, it says ALL PERSONS. READ THE CONSTITUTION FOR ONCE IN YOUR LIFE.
Nope. It says "the people." It is very clear, my friend, that the framers were not thinking of Arabs and Chinese when they wrote this. "The people" means "the people." I thought you were smart! WHO, who, who has gotten to you??? Who has messed with your good mind? Don't let them do this to you!!!!!
Why then does that tin potted dictor named George Bush want to pass a law giving telecommunication companies legal immunity in the case of wire taps. All wire taps are supposed to only be done under a warrant and warrants already grant immuninity for cooperation. The only reason they want to this law is to they can continue warrantless wiretaps on US citizens which is illegal under the Constitution.
Why is that sonofabitch president you think is so great, trying to undermine our civil liberties huh? Ben Franklin said that a people who would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will recieve neither. But I guess you Neo-Cons have outgrown such profound wisdom as that. You really don't have a clue what the Constitution says do you? That's probably because you've never read it.
What goes around comes around, and if America keeps sending it around it's all gonna come back to roost someday, just like it did on 911. The CIA trained ole bin Laden pretty well back in the 80's don't ya think? You're just a sick Neo-Con stooge who has an incredibly poor understanding of the US Constitution. You don't seem to understand that the Constitution is COMPLETELY ON MY SIDE AND COMPLETELY AGAINST YOU AND YOUR IDIOTIC POLITICS. Now you have a swell day. Try to learn...for once.
What Constitution? THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION? Care to be specific? How is the Constitution on your side? (Did you finish high school? Just curious.)
People like you, like to go through life pretending that there are no consequences for their actions. The problem with that is we live in a real world, and we are not the only people living in it.
People like you go through life pretending that EVERYTHING is a consequence of actions. It just ain't so. The Vikings were not seeking revenge when they sacked Rome nor had the Romans committed any offense against the Vikings by positioning troops in Sweden or Denmark. The Vikings simply looted because they could. In your heart of hearts you know that. You are smart enough to realize that this is analogous to the situation faced by the West today. Thus the name "Islamo-fascism."
I would be delighted if you would make a point by point challenge to my claims. You see, I have the benefit of actually having read the Classical writers. I have read of what happened in the words of those who were there and experienced it. I think I'll take their explanation any day over a head in the sand Neo-Con like yourself. I hope you wake up one day. Otherwise you're in for one hell of shock one day soon.
This whole discusion has gotten off topic. Nuclear weapons and high tech weaponry is irrelevant. A man can die from a heavy stone to his head or from a 15 MT air blast. It's the principle of the "Golden Hammer": which bug is more dead? Dead doesn't get any deader no matter the amount force applied. No offense, but you are making flawed associations.
gurumagoo 3 years ago
Be advised. Hinceforth I will moderate this discussion. Your multiple, rambling posts and your lack of respose to my questions are now a thing of the past.
We were talking about the advise of the founding fathers. War and international relations are not the same as in Washington's day. This is no slight against Washington Jefferson. What would these brilliant thinkers say about "foreign entanglements" if they were ALIVE TODAY? Respond or be blocked.
opchidexio 3 years ago
No problem. Block me. I thought you were growing out of your little world. Guess not. The next few years are going to be a real shock for you. I hope you make it through. You are going to reap the sum of your foolishness. A warning: Do not be so sure that you know a thing. Wise men fear their own ignorance, while the fool takes comfort in his knowledge.And REMEMBER: we "Paultards" are crazy!!! It's not like Ron Paul predicted this $700 bill power grab or anything.For old guy you need to grow up
gurumagoo 3 years ago 3
Oh? WHEN did Mr Paultard predict anything except the END OF THE WORLD? Bush and McCain and Allen Greenspan warned about the reckless behavior of Fannie Mae but the Dumb-crats said Fannie Mae was perfectly sound. The Dumb-orates said that the Repubs didn't want the poor to have roofs over their heads, remember. I am blocking your ass because you refuse to address my comments to you. My video comment sections are NOT a platform for your communist propaganda. Have a nice day.
opchidexio 3 years ago
rofl my favorite part was when you got him to say that he loved the privately owned "federal" reserve because "congress can BORROW money".
the congress has the authority and power to create its own money with NO INTEREST! they do not need to have a "federal" reserve giving them loans at MASSIVE interest that can NEVER be paid off.
this "bail out" is the "federal" reserve taking full ownership of all real value in exchange for funny money it prints out of thin air. have fun in the fema camps!
cyberpsygen7 3 years ago 3
The bail out is just another patch job of IT'S sea of RED INK! Carter, Clinton, Chris Dodd, Joe Biden and BARNEY FRANK caused this mortgage default meltdown. Congress created the banking regulations that almost FORCED banks to lend to UNQUALIFIED home buyers.
The Fed? All the Fed does is to ATTEMPT TO balance the desire for full employment with the desire to keep inflation in check. They were given this mandate BY CONGRESS.
opchidexio 3 years ago
sir, please click the link on my page for a bit of sad humour!
:>
SevenMinusOne 3 years ago
The government governs at our sufferance. That is a priveledge that WE MAY REVOKE when ever we choose. WE have the right to tear down the goverment and build a new one.
gurumagoo 3 years ago
I did a lot of digging on Ron Paul and the more searched the more alarmed I became. This guy I had thought to be crackpot didn't have any dirt. I couldn't help but admire the man the more I learned about him. Then I found that I couldn't ignore him anymore. I still didn't quite agree with him but I began to investigate things further. I began reading senate and house bill, and executive orders. Things started to add up in ways I didn't like.
gurumagoo 3 years ago
I know about the "lack of dirt."
opchidexio 3 years ago
I can only suggest that you begin disconnecting yourself from the mass media. The media is propaganda tool that furthers the agenda of the powerful few. Our two party system has become a farce. It's a sham. This elections a sham. Never in the history of our nation have two candidates run from the two parties who were so nearly identical as McCain and Obama. The difference between them is a hoax.
gurumagoo 3 years ago
I am largely disconnected (except for the Internet) already. Tell me about the "movement" that knows the inside poop. Why is this movement so special? How do you know it can be trusted?
opchidexio 3 years ago
As silly as it sounds, It started when I actually decided to investigate Ron Paul. I had already seen a lot of rumors and theories as are common on the internet, but some things stuck in my mind and I couldn't easily dismiss them. I suppose I was afraid at first to look to closely at Ron Paul. I didn't want to like the man, because I figured I'd just find something about him that would disapoint me. The problem was I couldn't.
gurumagoo 3 years ago
I watch a few politcal videos on youtube. I have seen videos of RP interview with Russert and interview on Leno show. I was impressed with RP's handling of himself (but I still felt his ideas were unrealistic.) I found him likable. A third interview I saw was the hachet job by Bill O'Reiley. It made Paul look like an idiot (but I thought Paul deserved it.) The 4th vid I saw was Paul's scolding of Berneke (Fed chairman) and I really thought it was uncalled for.
opchidexio 3 years ago
One day not too long ago, something clicked in my head. It wan't pleasant. Suddenly, I found myself at an impass. I could no longer reconcile the actions of my governement with the common good and Constitution. I couldn't justify it anymore. I still feel embarraced that I could have been so guilable before. I really real shame. I began to learn more about our Founding Fathers and what they had to go through. They more than anything finally put me where I am.
gurumagoo 3 years ago
Here is what concerns me about your story. Two things. You have attended protest rallies. Never in a million years would I do that.
Two, and it is my MAIN one. I have evidence that your "grassroots movement" is not nearly as grassroots as it may appear on the surface. RP had the benifit of a huge spamming network. Plus RP acknowledges that he would be nothing without Alex Jones. Please think about this.
opchidexio 3 years ago
I couldn't pretend anymore. Now it's as though I've stepped back from everything and I can see it all for the first time. Shit makes sense that never made sense before. I'm more conservative than I ever was. I'm no pacifist, but I had to acknowedge the virtue and rightness of our Constitution above my own petty instincts. All it takes is for one of us to lose one of our liberties and we all are made slaves. For the Constitution to fall they need only undermine ONE FREEDOM.
gurumagoo 3 years ago
I wholeheartedly agree that the Constitution must be observed. Rules that are uninforced (like a speed limit observed by no one) become eaningless.
opchidexio 3 years ago
gurumagoo,
that was very well said!
Opchi is one hard-headed man. I don't agree with him often BUT, I realize in hindsight that
I misunderstood what he was "really" saying
(he's clever that way). He tends to make one think too hard. That's not my strong point at this point in the game.
Anyway, STEADY ON! Maybe you can straighten blue eyes out!
SevenMinusOne 3 years ago
Not likely. The Paul organization consists of people trying escape reality. They long for "the good ol' days" of 1776.
We can't go back. We must bring the Founding Fathers forward into the 21st century.
opchidexio 3 years ago
My friend, the Founding Fathers never left us!!! We have their words and dreams here with us now. In their day, they were often characterized as dangerous radicals and agents of anarchy. These ideals are still "radical" to this very day! As evidence of this I point out the general standard of liberty in the world today were so many people live under oppressive regimes and the people have no liberty.
gurumagoo 3 years ago
Mr. Slick McGoo, you know full well that I was not talking about "liberty." I was clearly referring to the way THE WORLD has "shrunk" as a result of VAST improvements in transportation, communications and WEAPONRY. (I'll refresh your memory. You were lecturing me about how we must not upset the Russians by building a missile defense system to protect us from the Topol-M which they began deploying in the late 1980s.)
opchidexio 3 years ago
Ron Paul supporters represent a growing movement in this country of citizens who are actuall willing to stand us and to "BE THE CHANGE" instead of asking others to please give it to them. WE DO NOT HAVE TO ASK FOR ANYTHING. It is ours to TAKE when we please. If you must ASK for a thing then it was never yours to begin with. If you must ASK the government for a restoration of you Liberty then you never had liberty to begin with. It becomes a priveledge convered by the government.
gurumagoo 3 years ago
I say again, you are off topic and you know it. What does "asking for liberty" have to do with high tech weaponry? We were examining MISSILE DEFENSE. I mentioned that Thomas Jefferson could not have envisioned the 21st century. Review the thread, pal.
opchidexio 3 years ago
Why don't you run for public office?
Have you ever seriously considered it?
I'm irritated with you so don't answer my question.
I (crap) just forget it!
I'll gripe some other time.
SevenMinusOne 3 years ago
Me? Public office? I can't stand politics.
opchidexio 3 years ago
Oh well John, individuals with your passion,
are needed where a difference must be made!
SevenMinusOne 3 years ago
Terry, that is one of the greatest compliments I have ever gotten in my whole life. But as far as "making a difference," I think that youtube (and my website) is all I have. I sincerely hope to influence a few who will, in turn, influence a few others.
This is all I've got. I don't know how effective this will be. I can only hope.
opchidexio 3 years ago
For me possibly the most convincing element of all of this is the grassroots nature of the movement. Americans from all walks of life and political persuasions are being converted to the cause on mass. Even former liberal democrats are being converted into the conservative constitutional found abandoning entirely their old big government ideals. People have become frightened. There are a lot of groups who are trying to discredit the movement with false associates and extremist dogma.
gurumagoo 3 years ago
"There are a lot of groups who are trying to discredit the movement." I am not part of any group. My opinions are from first hand (Internet) contact with his backers from around the world. I found SOME of these people to be nice but the majority were childish and arrogant in their ignorance (as I myself pretended to be, only for effect, and to test your sincerity.)
opchidexio 3 years ago
The movement is still fragmented and still doesn't have much of a sense of itself. Fortunately, the ones who do more than talk are those who uphold the Jeffersonian ideal and are true Republicans. Most of us are more silent than myself. There are over 100,000 of us who are official affiliated with the movement. And there are hundreds of thousands more who do our work.
gurumagoo 3 years ago
You may have gathered that I have a soft spot for many of the "ronbots." If I didn't like them I could easily just ignore them. I yank at their chains because I care.
opchidexio 3 years ago
Your group's "fascination" with Jefferson is troubling. Here's why. Jefferson was a very bright man ...IN HIS DAY. Jefferson could not have imagined how small our world has become. The once wide Atlantic is now only a narrow creek transversed by numerous bridges. In Jefferson's day the high ground in battle was a mound of earth. Today the high ground is SPACE. Times have changed.
opchidexio 3 years ago
Times may have changed but yet truth remains and what was virtuous then is virtuous still. Jefferson was the author of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution. I would argue that while Washington was a father to the American people, Jefferson was the father of the American Republic. Jefferson's wisdom was a simple wisdom, the truth which is not diminished by its simplicity. His ideals of Liberty, Justice, Equality, and Fortitude are precisely those ideals we need so badly today.
gurumagoo 3 years ago
Great. Now take Jefferson's wisdom forward and apply it IN THE HERE AND NOW! Jefferson's world did not contain nuclear-armed ICBMs.
opchidexio 3 years ago
Don't be silly, I was only speaking figuratively. What is truly fightening is that so MANY Americans are noticing it too. I might not even believe it myself if it weren't for the mass movement which is growing in America and the very visible steps the system is taking to suppress the movement.
gurumagoo 3 years ago
And no it doesn't take years of expertise, it just takes an observant nature enough knowledge about how the world truly works to see through mass deception that seems to be reality. YOu live in a world that in a sense is similiar to the movie "The Matrix". You live in a world where your life is ordered by people you don't even know exist.You are plugged into the mass media and are not able to adequately separate what is real from what is fantasy. The entire country is being manipulated.
gurumagoo 3 years ago
The whole world is being manipulated. Unscrupuluous men have dictated US policy from the shadows for quite some time now. It might come as a suprise to you that a known to commonly be under CIA and NSA employ crashed in Mexico last year carrying 3.2 tons of pure uncut cocaine.
gurumagoo 3 years ago
It is really difficult when you start coming around to the truth. I didn't want to believe it at first. I was just like you. No one converted me, I converted myself. I couldn't ignore the facts anylonger. It really hurt and still hurts. This is one of the most depressing things I've ever had to deal with. I wish to God it wasn't true, but it is. Things are going down here that the general public is completely oblivious to. Everybodies sitting too close to the TV to notice whats going on.
gurumagoo 3 years ago
I am very aware that most Americans are "too busy."
opchidexio 3 years ago
Who told you? Where does ALL of this info come from?
opchidexio 3 years ago
Yeah, I live in the same "Matrix" as everyone else including you. Those inside the matrix have the silly idea that they are the only ones aware of the matrix; everyone else thinks HE is the only one who knows.
opchidexio 3 years ago
Russia has proven on multiple occasions to be willing to back down, when their is mutual benefit to be had in agreement. You can always count on the Russians to be duplicitous but in international diplomacy you can also bind them to their own words and promises under the right conditions.
gurumagoo 3 years ago
Yeah, yeah. I say again. You are too damn well informed to be a 29-year-old. I am not "talking" to the "original McGoo." How many are using this keyboard? I'm afraid you blew it, GENTLEMEN. (PLURAL.)
opchidexio 3 years ago
Some analysis predict the US dollar Russian Rubel might lose 50% of their value over the next year as a consequence of massive inflation. America is on the verge of massive changes the likes of which we have never seen before. This time next year it's going to look pretty damn scary. It's as though America is being eaten alive and we didn't feel the first bite until after both our legs were already gone.
gurumagoo 3 years ago
You see, I know these things. I am one out of a million. I research this stuff. How the hell does a 29-year-old know all of this? You get my drift?
opchidexio 3 years ago
Regardless of Russia's motives, the actions and attitudes of US and NATO policy are pushing things to a head with Russia far sooner than need be. Boths sides are posturing, and letting the hammer down on propaganda. The war of words and rhetoric has turned relations very sour. Russias economy believe it or not is in even worse condition than our own and they are on the verge of massive callapse just as we are.
gurumagoo 3 years ago
Who do you work for? Someoneelse has taken over the keyboards. You guys are trolls. Respond.
opchidexio 3 years ago
Hmmmm, "the weakness in me."
I'm most vulnerable when I feel powerless.
(gee that reminds me of a song)
err, umm...wait, wait...Oh kay, I had a point to make but I forgot what it was...something about being attacked, being weak, vikings (football) no, no, dernit...long pause...
what's the name of that song The Weakness In Me
watch?v=1pjMwzujbHE
I wonder who will conquer America in her weakness...the vikings?
them damn rush ons?
Ineedanap
SevenMinusOne 3 years ago
I thought you just WOKE UP from a nap.
Terry, I think -- and hope -- this gurumagoo is actually a very good guy. He is the smartest Marine I have ever come across. Check out his comments. (Wake up first.)
opchidexio 3 years ago
He's probably a commie...
and I can't wake up...I'm tired dernit...
I'm stressed dernit...
I need sex dernit!
: >
SevenMinusOne 3 years ago
Sex? What is that? (Mind your manners, silly.)
opchidexio 3 years ago
Their concern is simple. They can either believe that a highly sophisticated tracking and airspace control system place along their border is defend against Iran, which is 1,000 miles away and possess no missiles capable attacking Western Europe let alone the US, or they can choose to believe the array is set against them. If you consider American reaction should Russia place offensive military forces in Cuba or Venezuela the Russian reaction is not surprising.
gurumagoo 3 years ago
I have not looked into the REASONS Bush wants this shield. I would have thought it was for the protection of NATO against RUSSIAN aggression. I think Russia acted FIRST and we responded with the missile shield (which give us boost phase intercept capability.)
opchidexio 3 years ago
Weapons systems like ballistic missile sheilds are extremely dangerous. One begins to think they might actually be able to win a nuclear war. The Ruskies have around 4,500 nukes the last time I checked. You can't intercept em all. Russia employs a "Massive Nuclear Retaliatory Counterstrike Doctrine" whereby in the even of an attack the system has a "dead-hand" switch which would automatically carry out a massive counterstrike the Russian leadership was killed in a decapitation strike.
gurumagoo 3 years ago
What happened to McGoo? Who are YOU? I don't know you.
opchidexio 3 years ago
What are talking about. Are drunk or something. And I'm not 29 I'm 27. My knowledge is the result of an extensive education and the life experience gained from two foreign wars and a foreign wife.
gurumagoo 3 years ago
Yes, I'm drunk. I didn't know this would go on for six hoooouuuuurrrrssssss. Thanks for re-confirminging your id. I am a little paranoid.
opchidexio 3 years ago
Dude, it would years of expertise to master all the topics "you" have covered in 6 hours today. If you are so damned smart, why can't you spell "McGoo" you own name? Here's why. You (plural) are not "magoo" to whom I began commenting to a couple of days ago. Address my concerns, please.
opchidexio 3 years ago
If you look at Russian missile development over the past 8 years it is only congruent with similiar US developments in technologies which would neutralize Russia's strategic arsenal. You have to understand that Russia's ICBM's are pretty much ALL they've got. Their conventional military is little more than a rabble running around with 20 year old junk. The Russians are extremely paranoid when it comes to their last line of deterence against what they perceive as a more aggressive and bold NATO.
gurumagoo 3 years ago
Yes, I can understand that. I may have misjudged them.
opchidexio 3 years ago
Since '99 our government has become bolder and bolder. In the recent protest actions, the FBI, and Secret Service has been infiltrating protest organizations with police who urge them to take violent and even terrorist action. FBI and the Secret Service have also placed plain clothes officers in crowds of protesters to randomly assault protesters in an effort to incite violence and provide them with provocation for for mass arrest and police assaults on the protesters.
gurumagoo 3 years ago
Guru, the same thing happened in the late 60s. Our FBI knew that these protests were created by communist agents. The "cold war" was real. Most people are told that the cold war ENDED. The truth is, it did not. I swear to you. Putin has been building OFFENSIVE ballistic missiles for years, MIRV warheads that can penetrate all our defenses. WHY? (Google the word, Bulava.)
opchidexio 3 years ago
The Russians have an extreme preoccupation when it comes to what they percieve as territorial encroachment. Most Russians, view the former Soviet Republics and being strictly within their sphere of influence. They GREATLY resent NATO encroachment in these former Soviet Republics, and it is commonly seen as a deliberate and bald faced challenge to Russian security. The one thing you can always count on the Russians to do is to react VERY badly when they feel threatened.
gurumagoo 3 years ago
I hear you.
opchidexio 3 years ago
did you read the on my personal page WHAT
YOUTUBE WON'T LET ME PUT ON a thread ANYWHERE!
They are
CENSORSHITS
SevenMinusOne 3 years ago
Sorry. Not yet. My little brain is fried.
opchidexio 3 years ago
At any rate, placing an extremely sophisticated radar tracking array within close enough range to directly track all air activity to great depth within the Russian interior can only piss the Russians off. The addition of an equally sophisticated battery of SAM's along the Russian military border with NATO gives the NATO the ability to intercept air targest at long range within Russian airspace.
gurumagoo 3 years ago
The Russians percieve that they are being encircled. As a result, they are embarking on a massive military modernization and upgrade program designed to bring the Russian military back up to near Cold War standards in just under 7 years. The resent conflict in Georgia is symptomatic of the new Russia/NATO relations. Russia had hoped they might make a lightening strike against Georgia, quickly seize the country before the world could react and force the West to deal with Russia more favorably.
gurumagoo 3 years ago
I disaggree. I think Georgia wants to be independant AND to control the oil inside their territory. I think Georgia acted on it's own to "break away."
opchidexio 3 years ago
Georgia has no oil, but only an oil pipeline from the east. The West has sought to exploit this pipeline and break Russias near monopoly on Central Asian oil fields. Coincidentally elements of this pipeline are connected with the Haliburton pipeline in Afghanistan.
gurumagoo 3 years ago
I hear you.
opchidexio 3 years ago
The plan was hinged upon seizing the oil pipe line. But too many things went wrong. Putin underestimated the moral ambiguity for his provocation. He also failed to anticipate how swiftly and angrily the West would react. The Russian military performed well under exeptations, and they failed to reach Tblisi soon enough to depose Saakaskvili.
gurumagoo 3 years ago
I kinda figured it had to do with that pipeline. But. If NATO was really the bad guy, as you seem to think, NATO can cut off that oil at any point in the Black Sea or the Mediterranean. But WHY would NATO want to steal Russia's oil? Because Russia is growing too strong? I don't get it.
opchidexio 3 years ago
All I can tell you is that I do understand how vital that pipeline is to Russia. So you are telling me that NATO is the aggressor? Wouldn't it be much easier to let Russia keep that pipe line UNLESS Nato really beieved that Russsia was bent on re-creating its former self (as a "new USSR")?
opchidexio 3 years ago
Russia isn't so much playing the aggressor as they truly feel that it is we who are pissing in their backyard. NATO expansion in Eastern Europe and Asia has been extremely rapid. We have every reason to believe that if the Ukraine joins NATO, the Russians will perceive this as an act of blatant aggression and perhaps even as an act of war. NATO expansion has forced Russia to reach out to other countries on poor terms with the US, including Venezuela, China, Cuba, India, and even Iran.
gurumagoo 3 years ago
The one thing we are doing faster than anything else, is helping our enemies and potential enemies to find common cause against us. We are unifying them. Experience has shown that they only way to deal with Russia is with aggressive diplomatic engagement. Where Russia goes, the others follow. If you delay or pacify Russia then the others become less bold and more cooperative. With Russia you have to stand your ground and keep talking to them. When you stop talking you end up with Cuban Mis Cris.
gurumagoo 3 years ago
McGoo, I have to tell you that my suspecions of you are growing again. You don't seem to be the same person I started talking to (yesterday or the day before). I really believe YOUR HANDLERS have taken over the keyboards. That's the feeling I get. RSVP.
opchidexio 3 years ago
How long have you been such a passifist? If you were a (smart) passifist BEFORE YOU JOINED THE MARINES, it can only mean that you are a "plant." What do you say to that?
opchidexio 3 years ago
"pacifist" is what I should have typed. It's beer time.
opchidexio 3 years ago
Alex Jones is a nut case but even a nutt case can be right sometimes. He has been warning of the dangerous exposion in governmental powers and activity for more than 10 years. He warned of the 911 attacks before they occured, and he has exposed numerous frightening activities undertaken by our government. More than that he even provides video footage to proove he's not making it up.
gurumagoo 3 years ago
Okay, pal. We don't agree on all points but you have my respect. Thanks. Best wishes, okay?
opchidexio 3 years ago
I graduated high school in 1997 and went to school for 1 1/2 years. Enlisted in the Marines. Went to Bosnia in 1999. Went to school on active duty from late 1999-late 2002. Got my bachelors in 2001 and my masters in late 2002. I was with 1st MEF in the invasion. I don't give a shit whether a chickenshit punk like you believes me or not.
gurumagoo 3 years ago
Where is Sarajevo? Ever been there?
opchidexio 3 years ago
Yesss I've heard of Sarajevo, its the capital of Bosnia and no I've never been there. I spent my deployment in and around Pristina. And yesss I've heard of the Second Battle of Fallujah. I was in RCT-7 in the first push at Second Fallujah. Anything else?
gurumagoo 3 years ago
No, sir. well... yeah, there is one more thing. Why do you have the talking points of International ANSWER down pat ...and why to you listen to ALEX JONES?? Surely, you know he is fake...
opchidexio 3 years ago
A proper education? You mean like at a university? Yeah I got one of those. It's called a Masters degree. Try a masters in Mathematics and Bachelors in Physics with a double minor in history and political science. Oh yeah...and I taught at the United States Naval Academy for 2 years.
gurumagoo 3 years ago
Did you actaully make anything of yourself or did you quit after school after junior high?
gurumagoo 3 years ago
No. I was born this way. I can't take credit.
opchidexio 3 years ago
Their only solution is to print more money which is backed by nothing, to bail out the economy, which will send inflation SOARING to levels we have never seen before. We are standing at the edge of an ABYSS. Our economy is in utter ruin and we have NOTHING to fall back on. Your "conservative" president has overseen the greatest expansion of the government, its power, and federal spending since the CIVIL WAR. We currently spend nearly $700 BILLION dollars on defense. THAT IS UNPRECEDENTED.
gurumagoo 3 years ago
True about the cost. You have a good point.
Okay. The war is unjust, illegal and just plain WRONG ...CUZ IT COST TOO MUCH???
You are grasping at straws, Mr. Magoo.
opchidexio 3 years ago
The invasion of Iraq was ILLEGAL. Don't you get it? We went to war under false pretenses. Our military is stretched to the breaking point. We no longer have adaquate forces available to defend ourselves or our allies if any new conflict erupts. We went into and stayed in Iraq claiming to be furthering the aims of democracy and freedom while supporting a military dictator who overthrew a democratically elected government in Pakistan. What hypocrisy!!! Are you blind!!!
gurumagoo 3 years ago
Why do you want the US out of Iraq?
opchidexio 3 years ago
Forget about what your "friends" have been telling you. Do YOU want the US out of Iraq and, if so, why? My guess is that you have no answer.
opchidexio 3 years ago
The only thing I have left to say to you is get a damn education. You need one in the worst way. You're dumber than a bag of hammers. But don't just take my word for it. I've got friends. Seems like they've made their opinion of your intelligence clear on this stupid videos ratings.
gurumagoo 3 years ago
uh, YOUR friends gave me those ratings, fruitcake. You could not posibly have a MASTERS DEGREE IN PHYSICS. Wanna know why I know you are a fake? Wanna know? Huh?
opchidexio 3 years ago
OHHH SURE!!! Why don't you tell me why I don't have a masters in physics? Pray tell!!!!
gurumagoo 3 years ago
So now you cant fucking read. I have a masters in math dumbass
gurumagoo 3 years ago
What can I do with differential equations? I have no need of it? What is it?
opchidexio 3 years ago
A differential equation is merely an equation designed to find an unknown function with possibly many variable inputs which is useful in many things such as economics engineering and other sciences. Newtonian physics deal with principles of motion, establish the law of universal gravitation and form the basis for Classical Mechanics, which deals with large stellar objects and even mechanical engineering and is coupled with Special Relativity.
gurumagoo 3 years ago
okay. just checking.... No offense, okay.
opchidexio 3 years ago
In the future, just say that classical mechanics IS "Newtonian mechanics." (Newton is one of my heros. That's how I know.)
opchidexio 3 years ago
What is the difference between classical mechanics and Newtonian mechanics?
opchidexio 3 years ago
Which sect of Islam -- which group of people -- dominates the area around Falujah?
opchidexio 3 years ago
What is the charge of an electron? Why are elctrons the heaviest particle (billions of times heavier than alpha particles)? Fire away, Einstein.
opchidexio 3 years ago
Operation Al-Fajr? Ever hear of it?
opchidexio 3 years ago
Umm.... Cuz you said you didn't? If I can't trust YOU, who CAN I trust, my friend! Sorry for all the trouble. Thanks for serving your country so well. You are a giant. I salute you. Again, I apologize for "testing" you. Forgive me?
opchidexio 3 years ago
I've seen it with my own eyes. Journalist who witness these activities are being assaulted by police, their film destroyed, and their gear confiscated. Prior to the conventions the FBI organized raids on independent media offices who planned to cover the protest and illegally confiscated their equipment. Many journalists who were flying to Minneapolis were not allowed to board their planes for unknown reasons. At some point you have to become alarmed.
gurumagoo 3 years ago
My friend. Really. The FBI has been tracking these people. The FBI KNOWS they are plants. YOUR fellow Marines know it too! These "jounalists" LIE ABOUT what they see in Iraq.
opchidexio 3 years ago
What is the mass of an electron?
opchidexio 3 years ago
"Money which is backed by nothing"? American workers and American productivity is "nothing"? American-style CAPITALISM is the fountain of wealth! THIS is where wealth COMES FROM.
opchidexio 3 years ago
Dude, you clearly have burried your head in the sand. You don't know what the hell is going. American money is backed by nothing but AMERICAN DEBT, and all we do is print more of it and accumulate more debt. You are an uneducated IDIOT. You don't know SHIT about economics. Oh you got all the snappy slogans down but you don't know anything else for SHIT. You would have made a swell SS Einsatzgruppen kommandant. You believe everything your masters feed you. You're such a loser. GOOD DAY DUMBASS.
gurumagoo 3 years ago
You're gone? Was it something I said?
opchidexio 3 years ago
Are you the SAME PERSON I have been talking to for the past several days??? You started out mighty damn dumb. You are spouting the line of International ANSWER (a communist front) WORD 4 WORD!
opchidexio 3 years ago
When was the last time you saw pieces of your friends scattered out over 50 yards of sand after your friendly Iraqi security forces planted a 155mm howlitzer shell under the damn highway? When was the last time you had to pick through pieces of your friends remains to find their Dog Tags. When was the last time you had to write a letter to someones family to tell them their son died on some nameless road in the middle nowhere? I wrote five of those fucking letters asshole.
gurumagoo 3 years ago
I am sorry for the loss of your friends. But that does not bear on the legality or justness of this war! Thise things happen in every war!
opchidexio 3 years ago
And no, I was good Marine. I have a Bronze Star, a National Commendations medal, a Purple Heart, two National Achievment Medals, and a set of Captains bars to prove it. You want pictures? You talk of legality, and completely ignore the Constitution which grants sole authority to Congress for waging war, not the President. We CANNOT go to war without a Declaration of War from Congress.
gurumagoo 3 years ago
No "decclaration". Tell that to Congress. Legal-smeagal. zzzzzzzzzzz. (This is getting old. I think I'll have a beer.)
opchidexio 3 years ago
Who is the Commander in chief? Do you know? "The authority to wage war" -- What a joke.
opchidexio 3 years ago
It's as plain as day that you have no idea what a conservative is. You are nothing but a deluded big government federalist, who has no respect for Constitution. You are a NEO-CON. You are a liberal posing as a conservative. But thank you. Your words here have exposed your true colors and your utter contempt for our beloved Constitution. You did it better than I could I have. "Legal-smeagal"? My Constitution is a sacred document sir, which I swore an oath to defend against ALL enemies.
gurumagoo 3 years ago
In an emergency, talk about "big government" must be suspended. In PEACE TIME, I want a very limited role for government. I would be happy if the Congress worked one day a week!
opchidexio 3 years ago
Don't worry, they already do only about a days work each week. You really don't know what the hell is going on do you?
gurumagoo 3 years ago
What creates a magnetic wave or "force field"?
(Let's see what you know about physics (in which you claim a MASTERS DEGREE???)
opchidexio 3 years ago
You've gotta be fucking kidding me. Is that the best you can do? Electromagnetism is a mechanics of an electromagnetic field which places a force on particles which posses an electric charge d by the presence and is effected by the motion and angular velocity of those particles. An electron has no mass and possess a negative charge. And nice try on the alpha particle thing. ELECTRONS HAVE NO MASS, and protons and neutrons do. Alpha Particles are to elect. and two protons in a helium nucleus.
gurumagoo 3 years ago
So far, so good. How did you find the TIME TO TEACH AT United States Naval Academy for 2 years??
opchidexio 3 years ago
2006-2007
gurumagoo 3 years ago
You know nothing of Patriotism. I AM A MARINE. I have actually stood in harms way with a rifle in my hands and a pack on my back. I have actually been shot at in the service of my country. What the hell have you done coward? I served my country for 6 years, making meager pay, while the government pays mercenaries a minimum of $130,000 a year to do the same job. I've seen my fellow Marines blown away by these Iraqis you think love us so much.
gurumagoo 3 years ago
Not everybody is cut out to be a Marine. You goofed. You should have stayed your sorry ass at home. (McDonald's wasn't hiring?)
Naw. Truthfully, you have been indoctrinated. You have been worked over HARD. Think back. How did this process of brainwashing start? Who contacted you first. Think.)
opchidexio 3 years ago
And you are such a coward to hide behind such petty accusations. Your only weapon is to call me a communist when I am more truly conservative than you are. What you really hate is our Constitution and the liberties it guarantees us, which your hero Bush has so methodically and deceifully subverted. You and your Naziesque Patriot Act which has nothing to do with American Patriotism at all. The Patriot Act is illegal and I and millions of others do not recognize it. We spit on it.
gurumagoo 3 years ago
Are you saying you don't like the Patriot Act? Well... Okay.... But be careful. You might go to jail if you act up. (You could also get famous like your pal Angela Davis too, but it ain't likely.)
opchidexio 3 years ago
You simply don't get it do you? Look at what's going on around you. The government is running the country into the ground. The true deficit is nearly $50 TRILLION dollars (the $10 trillion dollar amount they quote is only the debt we owe on money borrowed to pay on previous debt). That's almost $170,000 per citizen, and equals the total net worth of ALL AMERICAN HOUSEHOLDS. Our corrupt government and their FED bank masters have begun nationalizing the countries financial institutions.
gurumagoo 3 years ago
I love the Fed. They are doing a fine job. Because of them, the CONGRESS can borrow (not the President) to fund wars and other emergencies. Take away the Fed and you have crippled the GREATEST NATION ON EARTH. (I know what your plan is.)
opchidexio 3 years ago
Right. Well then you keep on loving the FED. They have done nothing but victimize this country for that past century and strip it of its wealth. And you have the gall to call me a communist???? You sir, are no more a conservative than than Ted Kennedy, and you know NOTHING of conservative values. People like me, want to cut the Federal goverment in half, restore states rights, abolish the illegal income tax, withdraw from NAFTA, and do commerce with ALL NATIONS.
gurumagoo 3 years ago
umm... the Fed controls the money supply by setting the rate at which they will loan to other banks.... How does that "strip the country of its wealth"?
opchidexio 3 years ago
"Nationalizing the countries financial institutions"? Do you mean Fannie Mae?
opchidexio 3 years ago
People like you make me sick. To people like you Patriotism means supporting the government in all its discisions even at the expense of others whether just or unjust. But you are not a Patriot at all. An American Patriot believes in the Constitution about all else, and will fight for Right and Justice even if that pits them against the government. A Patriot's duty is to the American People and to their Constitution and not to the government.
gurumagoo 3 years ago
Finally. You said the truth. "A Patriot's duty is to the American People and to their Constitution and not to the government." Praise GEEEE-sus! You got it right!
opchidexio 3 years ago
Fourth Amendment: The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized. Why then is the NSA, FBI, and CIA spying on American citizens without warrants or probable cause?
gurumagoo 3 years ago
Now we threaten Iran yet again. We have encircled them and are even threatening an invasion.
Meanwhile whe have also encircled Russia. We are currently construction a missile defense sheild in Eastern Europe along Russia's military frontier with Poland while claiming it is aimed at defending Europe and America from missiles Iran doesn't have. Their are NATO forces in Central Asia to Russias south, and in ALL of Eastern Europe from the Baltic to the Balkans and even soon in Georgia and Ukraine.
gurumagoo 3 years ago
Does the US NOT have the right to defend itself? Does the US NOT have the right to defend it's allies? (brb... i'll go see what ben laden thinks!)
opchidexio 3 years ago
I LOVE this video. It is some of my best work. I am not surprised that it has already altered the course of human civilization. I should get the Mobile Peas Prize for this.
opchidexio 3 years ago
It's hardly suprising that you would seek simple world where everything is either one thing or the other. You use a narrow event and attempt to discredit a sweeping idea based upon it. As I've said before, you have a very poor and single minded understanding of history.
gurumagoo 3 years ago
ya'll ain't never gave me no prooofff! Why caint ya'll ever gimmi no proooffff? Y must we take Osama's word on it? Is Osama not an international fooogitive who kills people?
WHY IS BEN LADEN YOUR FRIGGIN HERO? I'll answer that FOR YOU, nit wit. It's because you are a god damned communist punktard, ain't that right?
opchidexio 3 years ago
You choose to ignore the fact that the US is largely responsible for the creation of the modern radical Islamic movement. The US through it's intelligence agencies went to great effort to stir up radical Islamic furvor against the Soviets in Afghanistan and Pakistan. These same countries later became the staging ground and home base for Al-Queda. You conveniently ignore American conduct towards Iran, which has been nothing short of criminal. You might even call it "TERRORISM".
gurumagoo 3 years ago
It was Qutb!
opchidexio 3 years ago
Let me paint you a picture. 1953-the CIA overthrows a democratically elected government in Iran and istalls the Shah in order to prevent the nationalization of Iran's oil fields. 1953-1979-the US supports both monetarily and militarily a brutal regime that ravages the Iranian people. 1980 to 1988-the US pushes Iraq into invading Iran in order to retake control of the Iranian oil fields. The US supplies billions of dollars and even Chemical weopons which kill thousands of Iranian civilians.
gurumagoo 3 years ago
Talking points aside, the Shah was already "ruler" of Iran. Mossy Deck was an unstable elected official who nationalized (stole) the petroleum infrastructure owned by what was to be later known as BP. He was making friendly with the Soviets. THE CIA DIDN'T OVERTHROW NOBODY! "It is the policy of THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT AND THE BRITISH GOVERNMENT to protect the Iranian people from falling into the hands of YOUR PALS IN THE KREMLIN. (What's the big deal?)
opchidexio 3 years ago
Meanwhile, the US supplies money and material aid to Iranian dissadents to undermine their war efforts. Half a million Iranians die in the war. July 3, 1988-an American cruiser, shoots down Iranian Air Flight 655, while flying in Iranian air-space and along standard flight routes killing 240 innocent people. To this day the US has not apologized for this outrageous act of naked aggression.
Gulf War-US sends troops to Saudi Arabia which is Islamic holy ground.
gurumagoo 3 years ago
The downing of that plane was a horrible error. Shame on you for trying to make political hay over the lose of innocent Iranians. (Rot in hell, dirt bag.)
opchidexio 3 years ago
17 years after the conclusion of the Gulf War the US military remains in Saudi Arabia despite widespread Islamic outrage over this. 2001-US supports a military dictator in Pakistan while claiming to be working to spread the message of freedom and democracy. 2003-US invades Iraq, after having bombed Iraq for 10 years prior to the invasion (I bet you never heard that on Fox News).
gurumagoo 3 years ago
Its time the Arab people were freed from YOUR DICTATOR HEROS. Long live freedom. George Bush is among the great American heros (and YOU are NOT!)
opchidexio 3 years ago
The US invades with the Casus belli of seeking to disarm Iraq of its Weapons of Mass Destruction, which it no longer has. Ironically, these would have been weapons like those which WE gave to Iraq to kill Iranians. 5 years pass and hundreds of thousands of Iraqis have been killed. The great and just America now holds people without charge, trial, or council indefinitely, and even tortures prisoners. Islamic peoples in America endure terrible harrassment at the hands of our government.
gurumagoo 3 years ago
The Iraqis love the USA. I know. I have heard from both the Iraqis and from our fine soldiers and Marines. In fact, they tell me that it is YOUR FRIENDS in the communist press who are the real problem. What have you got to say for yourself? Why is yours the party of lies?
opchidexio 3 years ago
No WMD's?
Dude, the UNITED NATIONS resolution 678 ordered Saddam to ditch the weapons programs. Saddam broke his agreement.
Why did so many Iraqis die? What killed them? DO YOU KNOW? WHAT KILLED THOSE KIDS?
*WHO* killed those kids? The answer is, SADDAM KILLED THOSE KIDS ...by diverting chlorine from the water treatment plants SO THAT he could continue to make MUSTARD GAS!
opchidexio 3 years ago
But you know what?!?! You're right! Russia's growing hostility against the US and NATO wouldn't have anything at all to do with our provacative and aggressive acts would it? No way. A NATO backed Georgia killing over 1,000 Russian citizens in South Ossetia would never make the Russians upset with us. It certainly wouldn't cause them to invade Georgia would it? And 27 NATO warships in the Black Sea wouldn't cause the Russians to seek military alliances with Venezuela and Cuba would it? NO WAY!!!!
gurumagoo 3 years ago
Russia invaded Georgia. Georgia wanted to join NATO. Get a life. (See why you are called "paultards"? You just ain't very patriotic, are you? You're a NUT.
opchidexio 3 years ago
You think Russia is joining with Cuba and Venezuela for its own DEFENCE? You're incapable of the truth. Putin is flexing his muscles. Chaves is prancing like a peacock. If the USA wasn't such a "nice" people we would have castrated those clowns long ago! lol!
opchidexio 3 years ago
You are such a brainwashed mormon. You wanna talk about the Constitution? OK. Article I, Section 8, clause 11- only Congress has the power to declare war, not the President. Fifth Amendemnt; NO PERSON may be deprived of life, liberty, or property without DUE PROCESS OF LAW or be compelled to be a witness against themselves as in the case of TORTURE. Sixth Amendment: the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy & public trial, by an impartial jury and to be confronted with the evidence.
gurumagoo 3 years ago
Let 'em declare war on whatever they want. What do I care?
I thought you were after BUSH. Now you want to criticize BOTH PARTIES of Congress??? (Fucus. Stay focused. You're drifting... )
opchidexio 3 years ago
Duuuudde, enemy combatants (who are also NON-CITIZENS) have ZERO rights under my Constitution... Hello?
opchidexio 3 years ago
I ask again. Do you have a basic understanding of the Constitution? You are not "natural born," are you? Where are your people from originally? Come back and talk to me after you have gotten a proper education.
opchidexio 3 years ago
Wrong dummy, the Constitution is very explicit. It doesn't say citizens will enjoy due process of law, it says ALL PERSONS. READ THE CONSTITUTION FOR ONCE IN YOUR LIFE.
gurumagoo 3 years ago
Nope. It says "the people." It is very clear, my friend, that the framers were not thinking of Arabs and Chinese when they wrote this. "The people" means "the people." I thought you were smart! WHO, who, who has gotten to you??? Who has messed with your good mind? Don't let them do this to you!!!!!
opchidexio 3 years ago
Why then does that tin potted dictor named George Bush want to pass a law giving telecommunication companies legal immunity in the case of wire taps. All wire taps are supposed to only be done under a warrant and warrants already grant immuninity for cooperation. The only reason they want to this law is to they can continue warrantless wiretaps on US citizens which is illegal under the Constitution.
gurumagoo 3 years ago
Umm... Is it possible that the govment be tryin' ta catch sum baaaaad people (who has already dun kilt THOUSANDS of innocents)? Do dat be posi-bul?
opchidexio 3 years ago
Why is that sonofabitch president you think is so great, trying to undermine our civil liberties huh? Ben Franklin said that a people who would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will recieve neither. But I guess you Neo-Cons have outgrown such profound wisdom as that. You really don't have a clue what the Constitution says do you? That's probably because you've never read it.
gurumagoo 3 years ago
I think I probably DID read it... Some of your quote sound very familiar.
opchidexio 3 years ago
What goes around comes around, and if America keeps sending it around it's all gonna come back to roost someday, just like it did on 911. The CIA trained ole bin Laden pretty well back in the 80's don't ya think? You're just a sick Neo-Con stooge who has an incredibly poor understanding of the US Constitution. You don't seem to understand that the Constitution is COMPLETELY ON MY SIDE AND COMPLETELY AGAINST YOU AND YOUR IDIOTIC POLITICS. Now you have a swell day. Try to learn...for once.
gurumagoo 3 years ago
What Constitution? THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION? Care to be specific? How is the Constitution on your side? (Did you finish high school? Just curious.)
opchidexio 3 years ago
You don't have all those college degrees, dude. YOU ARE A LIAR AND A FRAUD.
If you got out of the Marines in 2005 there isn't TIME to have gotten a Masters in physics and a minor in whatever... WTF?
opchidexio 3 years ago
People like you, like to go through life pretending that there are no consequences for their actions. The problem with that is we live in a real world, and we are not the only people living in it.
gurumagoo 3 years ago
People like you go through life pretending that EVERYTHING is a consequence of actions. It just ain't so. The Vikings were not seeking revenge when they sacked Rome nor had the Romans committed any offense against the Vikings by positioning troops in Sweden or Denmark. The Vikings simply looted because they could. In your heart of hearts you know that. You are smart enough to realize that this is analogous to the situation faced by the West today. Thus the name "Islamo-fascism."
opchidexio 3 years ago
I would be delighted if you would make a point by point challenge to my claims. You see, I have the benefit of actually having read the Classical writers. I have read of what happened in the words of those who were there and experienced it. I think I'll take their explanation any day over a head in the sand Neo-Con like yourself. I hope you wake up one day. Otherwise you're in for one hell of shock one day soon.
gurumagoo 3 years ago