What ever we perceive as God it isnt so. Not even the most creative mind from a human will ever come close. Trinity is fabrication and the idea made birth in 45 AD but then was FORCED to be acknowledged and practiced in 325AD. Trinity is not prophet approved. Humans are limited and imperfect. God is unlimited and infinite. Why would God be of human form to be killed by His own creation? Considering that I am human, I wouldnt sacrifice my infinite self sufficient ways for a creation of mud.
hey lets see the sholars I mean the church priests go to the Manuscripts and study them wheh they want to do seriouse study. Then they come with the manuscripts saying this and that.
If the translation is enough. If the translation is the word of God and God has protected his word in it then I challenge all christians to stop Revising the bible (why was it being revised anyway) and destroy all the manuscripts. If you think I am wrong then do let me know please.
I have talked with a christian and he was very strong in saying that the mind and thought should never be used in understanding this concept. It was more like Blind Faith, a dogma.
There are many problems that come into existance by this Father son thing. God being male and God being a white european are the most important ones. While in Islam all these things are not there
The Qur'an says think... reflect... use your brain for the case it puts forth.
"only-begotten" is a literal translation of the original Greek word "monogenes". You are just making a stupid argument about "begotten" saying it implies an intercourse of parents. It does not have any more such implication than the word "Son". Watch my video "Trinity explained".
This is my understanding of the trinity. All three have an essence of holiness which is unique to them.That essence could be compared with say water. Water can be found in the air, ie moisture, it can also have the form of ice, and thirdly has its form of water. So the essence of water is found in the air moisture in water and in ice,three seperate forms but of the same essence. I hope this helps. Kindest regards from Alamo11
i also have some of his lectur's dvds, dr zakir naik has spent most of its life for giving the true picture of islam please check some of his work i promise you'll like
AOA, brother i like your videos ALLAH give you reward for your good work, most likely you have already know about Dr Zakir naik, if not just type in youtube search (zakir naik) he is also very good at what you are doing he is doing also islam and comparetive religeon for over 35 five years he have so many debates and lectures
The Trinity is a very hard concept to understand since our carnal minds cannot grasp the true nature of God. I must admit that I didn't understand the Trinity until I started reading the verses. I began to see many things in the scriptures pointing to it and it was like my eyes started to open up..and wow it made sense.
Don't try to find proof in the scriptures for what you believe but try to find belief in the scriptures
do you know what I'm saying. If you are conditioned to think one thing over and over, you will find many things that look like it in anything around you. If God gave us these minds to use rational why not to know Him.
Why do Christians say that God is three-in-one and one in three when Jesus says in Mark 12:29: "The Lord our God is one Lord" in as many places as yet in the Bible?
The problem i have with the trinity is that it comes from the idea of orginal sin. This is a sin which was so big that God was bound as if it was a contract which he could not get out of. Infact he has to sacrifice his son to fix this problem. I think anyone who can creat the universe, would have no problem getting rid of something so small as human sin.
I agree with you 100 percent brother. The doctrine of original sin limits God's power and mercy. Christians say that the death of "God the Son" on the cross is completely necessary for our Salvation. But it makes God limited because it shows us that He is unable to simply forgive .
according to what dictionary??
nefrinhayat 1 year ago
What ever we perceive as God it isnt so. Not even the most creative mind from a human will ever come close. Trinity is fabrication and the idea made birth in 45 AD but then was FORCED to be acknowledged and practiced in 325AD. Trinity is not prophet approved. Humans are limited and imperfect. God is unlimited and infinite. Why would God be of human form to be killed by His own creation? Considering that I am human, I wouldnt sacrifice my infinite self sufficient ways for a creation of mud.
HANGER187 1 year ago
hey lets see the sholars I mean the church priests go to the Manuscripts and study them wheh they want to do seriouse study. Then they come with the manuscripts saying this and that.
If the translation is enough. If the translation is the word of God and God has protected his word in it then I challenge all christians to stop Revising the bible (why was it being revised anyway) and destroy all the manuscripts. If you think I am wrong then do let me know please.
MatrixOfDynamism 3 years ago
I have talked with a christian and he was very strong in saying that the mind and thought should never be used in understanding this concept. It was more like Blind Faith, a dogma.
There are many problems that come into existance by this Father son thing. God being male and God being a white european are the most important ones. While in Islam all these things are not there
The Qur'an says think... reflect... use your brain for the case it puts forth.
MatrixOfDynamism 3 years ago
Luke 18:17 tells us that we should learn as little children, very simply.
In the time of Jesus on earth, he despised the "wise" religious leaders that had him crucified. Much like the leaders of today in mainstream religion.
Please interpret the scriptures simply, as a child. It is that simple. Jesus was the son of God. Just like your father. Simple.
The trinity doctrine was invented by man. It becomes very useful for you in your spiritual pursuit because it allows you find the unwise.
twodoggzz 3 years ago
"only-begotten" is a literal translation of the original Greek word "monogenes". You are just making a stupid argument about "begotten" saying it implies an intercourse of parents. It does not have any more such implication than the word "Son". Watch my video "Trinity explained".
hotdoc007 4 years ago 3
Hi Jibreel.
This is my understanding of the trinity. All three have an essence of holiness which is unique to them.That essence could be compared with say water. Water can be found in the air, ie moisture, it can also have the form of ice, and thirdly has its form of water. So the essence of water is found in the air moisture in water and in ice,three seperate forms but of the same essence. I hope this helps. Kindest regards from Alamo11
alamo11 5 years ago 2
by the way there is another form of water at 273 kelvin
xtremerace 3 years ago
i also have some of his lectur's dvds, dr zakir naik has spent most of its life for giving the true picture of islam please check some of his work i promise you'll like
it ,please do let me know what you think,
kamilmirza 5 years ago
AOA, brother i like your videos ALLAH give you reward for your good work, most likely you have already know about Dr Zakir naik, if not just type in youtube search (zakir naik) he is also very good at what you are doing he is doing also islam and comparetive religeon for over 35 five years he have so many debates and lectures
kamilmirza 5 years ago
Hey Jibreel,
The Trinity is a very hard concept to understand since our carnal minds cannot grasp the true nature of God. I must admit that I didn't understand the Trinity until I started reading the verses. I began to see many things in the scriptures pointing to it and it was like my eyes started to open up..and wow it made sense.
Isaac0711 5 years ago
Don't try to find proof in the scriptures for what you believe but try to find belief in the scriptures
do you know what I'm saying. If you are conditioned to think one thing over and over, you will find many things that look like it in anything around you. If God gave us these minds to use rational why not to know Him.
JibreelK 5 years ago
Who said I was conditioned to think? I grew up without religion and found Christianity on my own. No brainwashing but a lot of studying.
Isaac0711 5 years ago
Why do Christians say that God is three-in-one and one in three when Jesus says in Mark 12:29: "The Lord our God is one Lord" in as many places as yet in the Bible?
MuslimByChoice 5 years ago
Christians pick their own quotes to interpret it the way they like. good question though
Striving4TheUmmah 3 years ago 2
see my video on the trinity if you are interested in my opinion.
qwertyfshag 5 years ago
i have posted them under your video
qwertyfshag 5 years ago
The problem i have with the trinity is that it comes from the idea of orginal sin. This is a sin which was so big that God was bound as if it was a contract which he could not get out of. Infact he has to sacrifice his son to fix this problem. I think anyone who can creat the universe, would have no problem getting rid of something so small as human sin.
jarhood 5 years ago
I agree with you 100 percent brother. The doctrine of original sin limits God's power and mercy. Christians say that the death of "God the Son" on the cross is completely necessary for our Salvation. But it makes God limited because it shows us that He is unable to simply forgive .
tawheed777 5 years ago