Who is God? Jesus P.B.U.H spoke Aramaic. Yes? Or do you believe he spoke Greek or English? Anyways go online, find an Aramaic dictionary, and type God and see what your answer is. Shame on you who hate Jesus's God.
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@mas3ary Common Little Muslim..............REPENT FROM YOUR EVIL WAYS AND COME TO THE ONE TRUE GOD THE LORD JESUS CHRIST.............and practice better english!!!!!!!
20And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life. 21Little children, keep yourselves from idols. Amen.
Book prophet of islam name mention by name but peoples translate word MOHAMMED beloved one,Then jesus said soul of truth shell come after me his huge sign most honest,most truthfull he say nothing from himself but LORD put his words in his mouth,He is more powerfull then me i say truth when i leave i shell send him if i dont leave he shell not come so when he come you must liston and belive on him,Now question is who is that SOUL OF TRUTH as Jesus said is its UN or US or italy
@MessianskJudeIf moses book was not corrupted why jesus said i only came to complet moses book?We muslims belive on moses,jesus,jacob,solomon,david,josef all prophets and all there books but its true that if old books before h quran was in original place there was no need to come one more book from our creater,If you go deep quran is very very near to moses book and ALLAH swt said i gave religion islam to moses,Moses,jesus was warned from ALMIGHTY about last prophet ex songs of solomon in hebrow
Brother i hear first time from one honest beliver,Well in jesus new book he self said i only came to complet moses book i didt bring new faith,Ido respect all faiths but truth is that moses,jesus,jecob,mohammed pbua was from middel east all peoples in middel east call ALMIGHTY name ALLAH SWT,Prophet moses wife was arab from midyan aerea present N of saudi arabia where moses took his peoples after migration from egypt,,jesus was from plestine,No body use word god in middel east,
@MessianskJude .Well first of all if hebrow moses book was corrupted there was no need of jesus as he said i came only complet to moses book,
ALLAH ALMIGHTY chose name of MUSA you change it moses,then TORAT to tora,Truth is that jews never liston to moses,After migration from egypt when they crposs red sea they said to moses look moses we are going back to egypt our enemy is dead now now we cant suffer any more with you in desert so they left moses alone in MIDYAN n of present saudi arabia,
u must not have not been listening to what u was reading because God said I am The God(ALLAH) of abraham.The book u call the oldtestament is not the book u read now what u have is the watered down version learn hebrew than read the real old testament before u post things u know nothing about.what u need to do is study your book and faith a little more.just to let u know God is not bound by time,time does not exist in the presence of God
SHOW ME WHERE JESUS SAID I BRING NEW RELIGION FOR JEWS,CROSS IS HOLY,MOSES BOOK LIE ABOUT ONE LORD BUT JESUS SAID I SAY TRUTH TRINITY 3 gods father,son,h ghost,Its mean moses book lie about one lord and jesus book says truth,
Where jesus used word god where when?????
Where jesus said pork,blood,gambling etc ok in my book but its forbiden in moses book,if you convince me with hard eviedence i promiss u i shell convert to cross worshiping faith,
@abbekhan you asked.."Where Jesus used Word God Where When?? Answer= Exodus 3:13-14(OLD TESTAMENT 2nd BOOK of the TORAH which is the EXODUS)
13And Moses said unto God, Behold, when I come unto the children of Israel, and shall say unto them, The God of your fathers hath sent me unto you; and they shall say to me, What is his name? what shall I say unto them?
14And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.
@abbekhan 15And God said moreover unto Moses, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, the LORD God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, hath sent me unto you: this is my name FOR EVER, and this is my memorial unto ALL GENERATIONS.
Did you see the word I AM? in VERSE 14?..now here is JESUS saying WHO HE is..
JOHN 8-58
58Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I AM.
@MegaMark214 ,DID JESUS USED WORD GOD IN OLD BOOK? OLD BOOK IS MOSES BOOK NOT JESUS BOOK CA 1500 YEARS BEFORE JESUS AND MOSES BOOK IS COMPLET LAW BOOK BUT NOT JESUS,
Jesus or moses never ever used word god ,Word god its greek roman language before christianty romans and greeks hade there own faith worship to idols one idol name was god so this history of word god,ALMIGHTY LORD real name is ALLAH SWT if peoples belive or not but they shell belive when they see huge fire on day of justic not now,
@abbekhan Exodus 3:13-14(OLD TESTAMENT 2nd BOOK of the TORAH which is the EXODUS)
13And Moses said unto God, Behold, when I come unto the children of Israel, and shall say unto them, The God of your fathers hath sent me unto you; and they shall say to me, What is his name? what shall I say unto them? 14 And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you. Did you see the word I AM? in VERSE 14?
truth is hard to liston but its fact that christianty and judism they dont follow laws of each other books,Jesws till today refuse jesus,Christians till today they dont belive on moses book laws and self in there new book they dont have any laws,Religion based on laws if ypou dont have laws how you can say i have religion but without laws,Non abramic faiths like hinduism,sikhism,buddism have there laws but christian faith is without laws,Every thing is allow in this faith,
Christians are fooled by Jezus and Moslims are fooled by Mohamad, you want to fight because of a name that you think is JeHoVa which can also be JaHuVu or even JuHeVe?
@TheEYeZzZz btw I don't expect u to run from this point........since u muslims have cheekily come up alongside our religion & r saying our religion is corrupted.....we expect u to have GREAT knowledge about things....so then WE EXPECT MUCH from u guys.......
but sadly like ur silly profit he boasted MUCH & delivered little!
Please explain the verses & how & why they fight against each other & don't do what or silly muslims do- by saying it is obvious- BCOS I HAVE ALREADY STATED WHY IT ISN'T!
@TheEYeZzZz no they are not...you have to state in what way they are fighting one another- you have just taken two seperate verses & matched them up against each other....it is you who have to state they are at odds with each other........HAVE U NEVER HEARD THE WISE SAYING? What then did ur stupid profit teach u?
That a text(verse) taken out of context becomes a pretext.
Please don't just give me a verse....show me u understand the meaning of each verse & then state how they fight each other?
"Allah" is simply a transliteration of the Arabic word for "God." Christian Arabs and the Arabic Bible call God "Allah" as well. Specifically, it is the Muslim deity that is a false god.
@TheEYeZzZz this statement proves that Christian scholars are honest yet doesn't prove corruption- but only states a fact...which u have drawn a false conclusion to!
Hadith clearly inform us that Ayesha bare witness that a goat did come & eat some of your eternal(hahaha!) quran & the stoning verse was part of this which went missing out of uthman's quran!
Since u lie & believe something possibly missing in book =corruption quran MUST BE 100% CORRUPTED BY YOUR OWN STUPID REASONING.
@TheEYeZzZz tell me then Miss no bullshit? Enlighten us as to the fact that God's righteous decree demands the sin be punished with death; so if all sin- how can all be saved from death. and if God forgives as you say he does- then how can he not be a LIAR like muslims- since he has said the sin will be punished with death...what is God's word empty?
Or is our God a contrary god like allah? who says 1 thing next & then another thing? Or excuses things with abrogation theory?
@TheEYeZzZz what then if a man rape you, kill your beloved husband; enslave your children; whore u out for money; steal all your land; spread lies about your family history & inform others that you r an apostate of Islam......& when finally the judge rescues you from the plight- your tormentor says to the judge forgive me??
And the judge forgives him simple as that......what will you want? Justice and PUNISHMENT FOR THE GUILTY.
The punishment for sin is HELLFIRE! How can we escape? 4 all sin?
If a muslim hater say: allah is this & that & ascribe blasphemy to Muhammad & he ask allah forgiveness- when muslims are going to kill him- why don't the muslims accept this that he is forgiven & let him go??
U fool! if allah just forgive & that is that then he is unjustice- for he doesn't punish the sinner & thus shows no deterrent 4 sining. Even ungodly civilisations punish those who ask for forgiveness- least victims seek the justice that is due- allah =unfair!
@TheEYeZzZz thank u.....there is no better endorsement that one is right than silly muslims who accuse u of all sorts of things......we know muslim lie too much- so whatever they say about u, we naturally take the opposite view.
How can God be JUST & forgiving at the same time?? His justice means the guilty MUST be punished & his mercy MUST means the guilty have an opportunity to be forgiven...this was foreshadowed in Israel's temple sacrifices but FULFILLED IN THE SACRIFICE ON THE CROSS!
@TheEYeZzZz Christ honoured women & under Christianity there have been many prophetic & doctors of the church; whilst Christ has said we are to love our wives as Christ loves the church. This is the standard. The silence quote in bible needs to be read in context- & if I followed muslims stupid interpretations this would make Paul a hypocrite & stupid like Muhammad by hims saying contrary stuff like: all competent to instruct each other; all can prophesy; all have a word, psalm, hymn, etc READ!
@TheEYeZzZz if u want a serious debate...then u have to ask allah to change u into a man.....since allah made u stupid.....which ur the worst of creation- since ur r doubly stupid: a muslim & a muslim woman......u best get some muslim to beat out the rebellious female spirit that allah informs makes u stupid & deficient in religion & common sense & makes u not prayer- and all the other silly things Mo has falsely charged women with.
@TheEYeZzZz hahaha! I have a rule: what ever muslims spitefully charge me of I dismiss it but apply it to them 100%= isn't you using filthy language like 'ass'? Are u a christian now? Or are you lying again saying only Christians use filthy language when u yourself use it??
You still haven't answered my questions; btw u can't debate....even Islam informs us women in Islam r much more stupid than men & hell has more women(inc bad muslimahs) than men...u r too stupid to think much less debate!
@TheEYeZzZz typical inarticulate idiotic responses from a muslim...I stated my reasons- yet u had no answer 2them- yet u use terms like ignorant & extremely childish....U IDIOT u are not submitters but dismissers= for u dismiss wise words.
U dumb fool- u have set a precedent....whenever a non muslim makes a critical statement on Islam- when u respond we will dismiss you as ignorant & extremely childish(without saying how or why just as dumb muslims do).
These are ur silly Islamic sayings: "but over the year after Jesus, things were added to it" & "it is said that Luke, Mark, Matthew and John were born hundreds years after Jesus".........
1. Tell us what year & what things were added to it- and where is ur source of proof? When we show your Quran being changed under the Caliphs we give Islamic proofs
2. You nincompoop- only Mark wasn't one of original 12 disciples yet Mark was disciple of Peter =all 4 b4 100yr= U LIAR!
@TheEYeZzZz Mo said his Quran confirms the bible & that his name was written it- so why would he say his book confirms a corrupted book & his name was written in a book of corruption? U stupid fool u don't know what u talking about?
Further I don't need 2read the bible- but U MUST SHOW US THE SO CALLED REAL BIBLE IN ORDER 4 US 2COMPARE IF UR WORDS R NOT LIES....4u muslims lie too much.
The reason is Mo was plagiarists & had christian influences but he was ignorant of spiritual things- like YOU
@TheEYeZzZz Can u tell me who, when, why & how bible was corrupted? And can you also tell us why Mo your prophet is informing us to hold on to that which we have in our hands(bible)? Do u know more than ur own prophet? Or are u less stupid than he is?
It is you who claim our bible is corrupted THEN SHOW IT & not just state it you silly girl!!
@TheEYeZzZz Isn't it you who needs to calm down? WHY U SHOUTING AT ME? WE WANT PROOF?? NOT DUMB MUSLIMS USELESS WORDS ON IT!!
if a person comes and says any of my books cannot be trusted & it was corrupted- and when I ask this person he tells me some sh*t like it has been changed so many times but can't show WHAT HAS EXACTLY CHANGED(FOR WORSE)....for corruption must mean change for worse.
Since Quran would be BIGGEST CORRUPTION since it CHANGED from oral to written format= quran has CHANGED!
@TheEYeZzZz BTW......PLEASE DON'T INSULT OUR RELIGION BY SAYING IT IS CORRUPTED & PLEASE DON'T INSULT OUR INTELLIGENCE BY TRYING TO LIE THAT WE INSULT YOUR RELIGION......IT IS WORST THAN SH*T........YOU MUSLIMS R STUPID PEOPLE........YOU TELL US OUR BIBLE IS CORRUPTED & WHEN WE ASK U WHEN, WHERE, HOW, WHOM OF BIBLICAL CORRUPTION- U 1ST GO DUMB LIKE KABA & THEN U TELL US WATCH CERTAIN SILLY VIDS THAT LIE ABOUT BIBLICAL CORRUPTION.
Fool Mo ur profit ENDORSED OUR BIBLE...U STUPID FOOL!!
@TheEYeZzZz SHUT UP U A-HOLE!! Do I have dumb muslim written over my head?? Am I a stupid islamicist that believes any sh*t from silly muslimahs mouths???
You have just insulted our religion by implying our bible is corrupted & is no longer the word of God- yet you hav e shown no proof.
In order for the bible to be corrupted there must have been a pure or real one? right?? THEN U ISLAMIC IDIOT SHOW US THIS REAL ONE....SO WE CAN SEE IF U ISLAMIC IDIOTS ARE TELLING THE TRUTH....SHOW US PLEASE?
@gwu2011 allah was the chief god for any god in Arabia. it is a generic term....as seen when Mo began debating with Christians from Najran- he called them to worship allah- of which THEY SAID THEY ALREADY WERE.....YOUR PROPHET SAID THEY WERE LIARS.
Mo knew Christians were worshipping Allah as Father, Son & Spirit. The Najran were before & after Mo created his false god allah out of the kaba.
This day have I perfected for you your religion and completed my favor on you and chosen for you Islam as religion; but whoever is compelled by hunger, not inclining willfully to sin, then surely Allah is forgiving, merciful.
@quranresponse , Why don't you prove all things? First, Moses and Jesus both said, ''Let every Word of God be established by two or three witnesses. A witness a another person who agrees with what YHWH gave. Muhd has not ONE other witness to the Quran. The dark spirit who forced hi to recite, knowing he cannot, is cruel and GABRIEL would NOT lie as that spirit did in forcing him to do sth he cannot do.
And who has better religion than he who submits himself entirely to Allah? And he is doer of god (to others) and follows the faith of ibrahim (Abraham), the upright one, and Allah took ibrahim as a friend.
@quranresponse , The one who submits to the righteousness of Christ is far better and is HOLY, Muslims are NOT Holy and cannot cease from sin. Just because you cover it up with lies, its still in your heart to do.
Surely the (true) religion with allah is Islam, and those to whom the book had been given did not show opposition but after the knowledge had come to them, out of envy among themselves; and whoever disbelieve in the communications
of allah the surely allah is quick in reckoning. 20-but if they dispute with you, say: I have submitted myself entirely to allah and (so) every one who follows me; and say to those who have been given the book the unlearned people: do you submit yourselves? So if they submit then indeed they follow the right way; and if they turn back, then upon you is only the delivery of the message and Allah sees the servants.
“you must not take up an untrue report. do not cooperate with a wicked one by becoming a witness who schemes violence. 2-you must not follow after the crowd for evil ends; and you must not testify over a controversy so as to turn aside with the crowd in order to pervert justice.
“Now in case a soul sins in that he has heard public cursing and he is a witness or he has seen it or has come to know of it, if he does not report it, then he must answer for his error.
What about bribe?
(Exodus-ch-23-vs-8)
“You are not to accept a bribe, for the bribe blinds clear sighted men and can distort the words of
Blessed is he who sent down the furqan upon his servant that he may be a Warner to the nations;
2-he, whose is the kingdom of the heavens and the earth, and who did not take to himself a son, and who has no associate in the kingdom, and who created everything, then ordained for it a measure.
Repentance with Allah is only for those who do evil in ignorance, then turn (to Allah) soon, so these it is to whom Allah turns (mercifully), and Allah is ever knowing, wise.
18-and repentance is not for those who go on doing evil deeds, until when death comes to one of them, he says: surely now I repent; nor (for) those who die while they are unbelievers. These are they for whom we have prepared a painful chastisement.
no you did not answer my question, f consisting of more parts which function in unity as that one personal being does this means that the body cannot function without the soul and brains? please answer with yes or no thanks friend :P
well you question once again is not really addressing the issue, and is not worth answering
as i was saying ... that a human out look is only a comparison, and not an ideal one
@followerofjesus1984 my 2 questions are relevant to the subject. 1) if jesus is God then he should be divine. but if he bleeds and die then he is human regardless whether the word person became flesh or not. 2) if the body functions with soul, brains and body what if the body didnt have brains and soul will it function? because it is related to the example God is one nature and was revieled in 3 persons but when we take one person individually will he be God or one person?
@bozzeed my 2 questions are relevant to the subject. 1) if jesus is God then he should be divine. but if he bleeds and die then he is human regardless whether the word person became flesh
what you fail to realise is that he was both human and divine, and only one aspect of him died the human flesh, while the divine nature still lived on
so when he died on the cross which by the way was for your sins, it was the flesh that he took on which died
@followerofjesus1984 2) if the body functions with soul, brains and body what if the body didnt have brains and soul will it function?
the brain and the soul can live on with out the body, --- what you are doing is twisting what i am saying ... its an illistration of something which appears to be one but under a closer inpection it consists of many parts which function in giving it the ability to work as one
@followerofjesus1984 if jesus was both human and divine, and only one aspect of him died the human flesh, while the divine nature still lived on, does this means that all human are divine since this applies to all? if the brain and the soul can live on without the body, can the body live without them?
@bozzeed no, cause we are not divine ... where as Jesus was and still is
ur still asking question do not pretain to the topic, the only reason i said about the human being one in one way but have many parts which function with in this one being
was to illistrat they there is a way for one object to exist in more than one in another way
it was not an opendoor invite for u to ask questions which are not pretaining the main issue
@bozzeed a misdirected question and is not relivent,
as i have stated more times than i can recall ..... God is the nature which the three persons share, dont ask is the father God or a person as this very dishonest
@followerofjesus1984 so if God is a nature which three persons the father, the son and the holy sirit are that nature, does this means that God is 3 Gods? or God is 3 persons?
@followerofjesus1984 you said God is a nature which three persons the father, the son and the holy sirit are that nature. then you tell me the son was a human. so im asking is the father God or a person?!
@followerofjesus1984 sure friend ask any thing you want to know we also ask about anything. however i dont understand why cant i ask if the father is God or a person? i need to know his nature before i address him. so can you help me please? if God nature, which 3 persons are eternally seen through, the father, the word and the holy spirit, what about the father is he a God nature or is he just a person?
@bozzeed here is it ............... God is a nature / being which is comprised as 3 person
to ask is the father God or a person is a really misleading question as if u only accept one or the other and except the biblical standpoint which is as i have stated the father is one of the persons who by the nature which they all hold is God
you dont need to know anything, u just need to accept and with time u will hopefully understand
@followerofjesus1984 thanks friend and i will accept it if im convinced with your answers, so now since you have said the father is one of the persons who by the nature which they all hold is God, does this means that the other persons are also hold the nature of God?
@followerofjesus1984 and what does the biblical truth says? since you have said the father is one of the persons who by the nature which they all hold is God, does this means that the other persons are also hold the nature of God?
@followerofjesus1984 and what does the biblical truth say? since you have said the father is one of the persons who by the nature which they all hold is God, does this means that the other persons are also hold the nature of God?
also what is the difference between a person as physical and a person as intellect and emotion? if humen are persons in physical, intellectual and emotional?
i believe u have missed my point on this
God is divine , we are not
he has existed as 3 divine persons which consist of a interlect, a will , emotion --- meaning he has a high understand, like the fact he knows all ting and we do not
@followerofjesus1984 surah 5:51 means dont let jews or christians rule over us because in christians case the churches control the people and the christian governments create huge national debt in favour of the government. you dont believe me? where do you live and what is your national debt? to which bank you owe this money? and why did your christian rulers messed up your country? if you dont want to be a friend that is up to you as for my question you answered correctly sura 5: 73-75
@followerofjesus1984 however i asked you as a christian if you believe that God is one form that controls 3 persons, my question was is the father ( just the father) God or a person?
@followerofjesus1984 i am only asking because i do not understand! i am only asking for clarification. you said God is a natue being. you also said that God is one seen in three persons. that is why i am asking is the father God or a person? can you answer please friend?
@bozzeed no, i said God is a nature or a being, or God in his being is a nature ... which has been revealed in 3 persons
its a deceptive question is the father God or a person, it like u want an answer like one or the other God is a naature which is seen in all three as i said above
@followerofjesus1984 i did not ask a deceptive question im trying to understand your concept of God. so if God is a nature of being which has been revealed in 3 persons, why do you say jesus is the son of God? this contradicts with God revealed himself in 3 persons.
@bozzeed wow, just one minute i never said you ask a deceptive question, i said the question was deceptive because it give you only two choice is the father God or a person? when no Christian would answer this question as it leads to something very misunderstood, and it is gonna misrepresent what we believe and what the bible teaches
God in his being is a nature which is seen or revealed through 3 persons -------
@followerofjesus1984 why wouldnt you answer this question friend? which is if the father is God or a person? is it because you dont have confidence in your belief? if not please answer. also if God is the father, the word and the holy spirit, is the word God or a person?
@bozzeed hmm i wonder, the question itself is deceptive, when it comes to God, there is no either or questions, God is a nature which has eternally existed as3 person, the scripture reveal this fact
ihave more faith in my belief than you have in yours, my friend, this question is illogical and not worth the a reply as it is deceptive in nature
@followerofjesus1984 not at all im not asking illogical question at all. you said God is a nature which has eternally existed as3 person. my question is related to the nture of one of these PERSONS for example, is the father God (a nature which has eternally existed as3 person) or is he 1 person?
@followerofjesus1984 yes but jesus had blood! does this means that the father also have blood? also jesus ate food like the rest of us. does this means that the father goes on lunch breaks?
@bozzeed of course Jesus had blood, u would not expect any different, --- john 1 : 14 the word became flesh...... the word took on the flesh of man for a reason to die for our sin
no --- the father does not have flesh, his is spirit (not the holyspirit) john 4 : 24
what daft question, does the father go on lunch breaks?
has allah decieved you so much u cant think for ur self
@followerofjesus1984 but you have just said:all three person share the nature which is God! then you make a different statement by confirming that jesus had blood and the fathe is aspiit! so this means that all three person do not share the nature which is God! that is why i am asking: is the father God or a person?
@bozzeed now now, i have not said anything different, i said all three eternally existed as God, but one of theperson became flesh in the person of Jesus .... which is in john 1 : 14 ... to answer one of ur questions where u said jesus had blood
the other i said the father remained in the spirit john 4 :24 .... but the son had the spirit in him to when he was in the form of a man,
only one of the person became a man, which is the word / son( not the father, or holy spirit)
@followerofjesus1984 so when the oerson became flesh, he became a different form of the father and the holy spirit. you have said "all three person share the nature which is God"! so how God can be humen if he is spirit? also what is the difference between a person as physical and a person as intellect and emotion? if humen are persons in physical, intellectual and emotional?
they are all divine , not finite like us humans--- person is used diffenciate between the father, son / word and the holy spirit
not different form, from the beginning they existed together in one form ----- spirit, the taking on a human nature has nothing to do with the spirit, but everything to do with salvation
Jesus is both God inhis divine nature and a man in his human nature ---- like humans are made different factors
@followerofjesus1984 how God can be a human if he is a spirit, we dont believe God is eternally a human, but he took on flesh,
the difference is one suggust he was a man which we do not believe, the other tells us he became a man
so we are not saying he has always been a man, no, God has been a spirit since forever, and at some point in history one of the divine person too on flesh and became a man
@followerofjesus1984 if jesus was devin in his human nature, then how can you explain being bleeding when crucified and dying?! if you say we are one in being a soul a mind and a body, can the body live without the soul and mind?
@bozzeed lol, misqouting me does not help your case ---- isaid nothing avout him being divine in his human nature
i said he was a man in his human nature, and he was God in his divine nature meaning Jesus had two natures one divine and the other human --- any christian will say this
one he was also a man who was capable of bleeding, in fact his blood established the new covenant --- so how did he bleed from the human nature he took on for the purpose of being a sacrifice
two your appeal to something which from the other side of your cheek you will deny as a muslim, so this makes me wonder about hos much u know of ur own faith
@followerofjesus1984 if you wonder about my faith i believe that God is divine and jesus was a human messenger from God. now please explain how can God be 3 persons all the persons are divine when the word becomes human still be divine and not divine at the same time. also you did not answer my question if consisting of more parts which function in unity as that one personal being does this means that the body cannot function without the soul and brains?
@bozzeed oh he is much more than just a messanger from God, and that i clear as day even from ur book
a few passage to setlle this in surah 3 : 45 Jesus is Gods word ... no other prophet according to the quran has this title,----- in surah 19 :19 Jesus is called holy, yet no other prophet is acording to hte quran, he also gave life to a bird from clay yet no other prophet not even muhammad could do this
this evidence altho so small indicate more than islam allows for
@followerofjesus1984 now please explain how can God be 3 persons all the persons are divine when the word becomes human still be divine and not divine at the same time.
i have answed this , my friend, and u refuse to accept it and undersand it based off of what you are led to believe
God is one in nature / being, and 3 in persons ( being is what something is, person is who some one is, 2 seperate distinctions)
@followerofjesus1984 also you did not answer my question if consisting of more parts which function in unity as that one personal being does this means that the body cannot function without the soul and brains?
i have answered this
the human body is a great example of this too, one in unity , still there many parts ---- arms, legs, eyes, ears, thighs, calfs, biceps , triceps, and many others acting union to function as one
@followerofjesus1984 you did not say jesus was not devine when he became a man but you confirmed that he was crucified and bleed to death. how can a device [erson bleeds and die? no you did not answer my question, f consisting of more parts which function in unity as that one personal being does this means that the body cannot function without the soul and brains? please answer with yes or no thanks friend :P
@followerofjesus1984 sura 3:45 yes its says Jesus is God's word it doesnt say jesus is God this is confirmed in sura 4:171. surah 19:19 doesnt say holy at all and according to the Quran jesus gave birth to birds and cures the ill sura 5:110 but with God's permision just as with God's permision moses split the sea and crossed with israelits.
@followerofjesus1984 so u say that surah 19 : 19 does not say Jesus is holy, dont lie as it does the angel gabriel said to mary the followingto thee (mary) a gift of a holy son
Jesus created a life in form of a bird --- by breathing into it ....
and it was not all by allahs permission ... did he curse the tree by God permission, no, it was his own authoriy in the gospels
@followerofjesus1984 you did not say jesus was not devine when he became a man but you confirmed that he was crucified and bleed to death. ?
im not sure what u mean by how can a device [erson bleeds and dies ... but the second person of the triune God took on flesh for the very purpose of being an atonement for sin
@followerofjesus1984 actually christians during the days of mohammad didnt say jesus is God refer to arians in alexandria and arabia. sura 4:171 is allah's word eternal? do you know what "word" means? sura 19:19 no the quran doesnt say jesus is holy the christian person who translated the quran says that. yes jesus did create a life into a bird and yes it was with allah's permision because all prophets performed their miracles with allah's permision encluding jesus peace be upon him.
@bozzeed why do you say jesus is the son of God? this contradicts with God revealed himself in 3 persons
no it does not contradict, ue just not willing to accept that God is far beyond your understanding ..... Gd is the father, the word and the holy spirit.... the second person being the word became a man, in the person of Jesus ( this is why he is called the son of God) ....because he is the word / the son
is there no wonder that muslimseem to have a problem with context of all manners, they take a whole passage and pit it against each other to make it say something it does mean or say
C: look @ him- after he leaves this site he will target some unsuspecting Christian & seek 2 pose stupid questions, not realising fools can't ask discerning 1s!
wm: I pray for him all the time.
C: indeed, but the bible talks about fools who are so entrapped by their sin & so, so love their deceitful ways, that they are destined 4 DESTRUCTION!
wm: this can't be bozzeed?
C: indeed, 4 he no longer has ears2 hear or heart2 understand otherwise he would REPENT!!
@followerofjesus1984 im sorry but i did not ask you if the father is one or three. i asked you is the father GOD? or a PERSON?! please answer with one word only.
wm: I have jus seen bozo comments, he really is a nincompoop!
C: indeed, for how would he feel if some1 held him to saying of his deity: is he allah or is he God? Or is Muhammad an illiterate or a prophet of Islam?
wm: he jus likes 2 play games.
C: it would be better for him to be an atheist, than assume he is following God & get it wrong as he has done in Islam.
wm: ok
C: the muslims know their profit was a fool, & love 2 pose questions to stop them having 2 defend their stupid profit!
@bozzeed what a complete loopy muslim we have ----- we give scripture based understanding of what it means --- and u still ask rediculous question
i have explain the trinity, its is the nature which is called God, which seen as 3 persons ( human being) 3 eternal persons which consist of a will , intellect and emotion
@followerofjesus1984 sorry but your scriptures do not explain any thing! so please correct me if im wrong. you believe that God is his ownself's father, ownself's son, and his own spirit?
@bozzeed now u have gone off into a whole realm which i dont know what u want to know
the bible is clear ...... there is none but one God.... which is by definition a nutre, and this nature is seen in 3 persons---- the father, the son, and the holy spirit
God is what we call these nature which exists eternally as 3 persons ---- nothing about God being his own father , son and holy spirit, this suggest he is a psyco with a split personality disorder, cause u as mentally see God as one
@followerofjesus1984 the only thing i want to know is how a God is 3 persons, when each person by him self is God! can you explain to me please, is the father God or a person? and why? also can you give other example of a nature that exists in 3 persons?
@bozzeed each person has the same nature of God, (ie) each person is God, meaning the father is one person, the son is the second person, and the holy spirit is the third person but they all one God
yea the closest thing is is a being ( human ) which we all are the same being, but we are different persons, but what u need to realise is that God is not like the creation, he is far beyond our understand in a lot of aspects .... how can we human fully understand what it is to eternal,
@followerofjesus1984 see now you gave two answers that contradict themselves. 1) (ie) each person is God, which means there are three Gods 2) the father is one person, the son is the second person, and the holy spirit is the third person but they all one God. so please answer my question, is the father 1) a God? or 2) a person? please answer by choose ONE number.
@bozzeed no u just do not understand what i said, i never contradicted what i said before read a agaaing, u would only have a point of saying this if i daid each person is (a) God, but i neverr, i said
each person has the same nature of God, (ie) each person is God, meaning the father is one person, the son is the second person, and the holy spirit is the third person but they all one God
the key words to note are the same nature of God, or which is the one true God
@followerofjesus1984 i am not understanding because you are not explaining this to me! you see i am a humen in nature in three persons, the asking, the answering and the thinking, we are three persons but one human. now please stop answering to the asking person and answer my question: is the father 1) a God? or 2) a person? please answer by choose ONE number.
@followerofjesus1984 i am talking about my self! i am not a devine nature! i am a human nature! in three persons! you should write the persons name in the beginning of your comment! otherwise this will be confusing between us!
@followerofjesus1984 bozzeed is a one human nature in three persons, the asking, the answering and the thinking. choose one of the following so i can answer you. also you did not answer my question, is the father 1) a God? or 2) a person? please answer by choose ONE number.
@bozzeed interesting thought process, but it doe not work, u are one being one person .... all the things u mention are not person but are apart of the same motion of communion
and again im not here to play ur games where u wabt me to give u a distinction , so u can u use my answe against me,
i answer only rational question, and not illogical , non relivent notions
@followerofjesus1984 i will answer simply by saying that God is one in being or nature, and 3 in person, each person is different from each other but still are all one God , so stop these irrational, illogical, and pathetic questions which i have answered time and time again biblically
@followerofjesus1984 sorry but why can your God be one and three persons at the same time and i cant? isnt that playing games? why would God be three person when one person can be God? also how can your God be the son of God? who came first? the egg? or God?!
@bozzeed God can be what he chooses to be, and if he reveals to us tha\t there three person in the being or nature ofGod, then who am i , or who are you a mere man to Judge him
that is what you muslims do all the time you Judge the very God that made you, how dare you
even if we can as human can not fully know all there is to know, should that stop us from believing in God, we can never know just what eternal feels like ... to have no beginning or end
if we can not comprehend what it is to be eternal then we have no right questioning how God has revealed himself, in three persons... and still remaining one being
@followerofjesus1984 suppose that i agree that God is one being and three persons, if God is a divine nature, how did one person became the son of another person? and who gave birth to the third person?
is Jesus a God or son of God?
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tigersforchrist 1 month ago
because christian god is man (a prophet of god ) Juesus . they have 3 gods and the says that the 3 is one and thats wrong
God , Allah is just one
he is the only creator no one else
mas3ary 2 months ago
@mas3ary Common Little Muslim..............REPENT FROM YOUR EVIL WAYS AND COME TO THE ONE TRUE GOD THE LORD JESUS CHRIST.............and practice better english!!!!!!!
260jimmy1 1 month ago
@260jimmy1 thanks
Jesus is a man and he is a prophet from god don't worship a man
mas3ary 1 month ago
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Amrruk 1 month ago
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@mas3ary Jesus is not a simple prophet but the Annointed/Elected (Massih/Mashiah) and the Word of God (Kalamatou Allah) Soutate Al Imran 3:45
Amrruk 1 month ago
Elah was spoken by Abraham. I am a Christian.
brassoadam 3 months ago
@abbekhan in this verse JOHN is preaching to the people not to worship false GOD
1john 5:20-21
20And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life. 21Little children, keep yourselves from idols. Amen.
MegaMark214 3 months ago
There is one god and his name is Jehovah
EJJ7439er 4 months ago
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@EJJ7439er From where did you hear that
The one God who had creat every thing
mas3ary 2 months ago
@MessianskJude ,
Book prophet of islam name mention by name but peoples translate word MOHAMMED beloved one,Then jesus said soul of truth shell come after me his huge sign most honest,most truthfull he say nothing from himself but LORD put his words in his mouth,He is more powerfull then me i say truth when i leave i shell send him if i dont leave he shell not come so when he come you must liston and belive on him,Now question is who is that SOUL OF TRUTH as Jesus said is its UN or US or italy
abbekhan 5 months ago
@MessianskJudeIf moses book was not corrupted why jesus said i only came to complet moses book?We muslims belive on moses,jesus,jacob,solomon,david,josef all prophets and all there books but its true that if old books before h quran was in original place there was no need to come one more book from our creater,If you go deep quran is very very near to moses book and ALLAH swt said i gave religion islam to moses,Moses,jesus was warned from ALMIGHTY about last prophet ex songs of solomon in hebrow
abbekhan 5 months ago
@MessianskJude ,
Brother i hear first time from one honest beliver,Well in jesus new book he self said i only came to complet moses book i didt bring new faith,Ido respect all faiths but truth is that moses,jesus,jecob,mohammed pbua was from middel east all peoples in middel east call ALMIGHTY name ALLAH SWT,Prophet moses wife was arab from midyan aerea present N of saudi arabia where moses took his peoples after migration from egypt,,jesus was from plestine,No body use word god in middel east,
abbekhan 5 months ago
@MessianskJude .Well first of all if hebrow moses book was corrupted there was no need of jesus as he said i came only complet to moses book,
ALLAH ALMIGHTY chose name of MUSA you change it moses,then TORAT to tora,Truth is that jews never liston to moses,After migration from egypt when they crposs red sea they said to moses look moses we are going back to egypt our enemy is dead now now we cant suffer any more with you in desert so they left moses alone in MIDYAN n of present saudi arabia,
abbekhan 5 months ago
Do you believe that the tetragrammaton YHWH is correct?
I AM who I AM should be HWH in my view.
I mean, H is I AM.
Furthermore, should it not just be H, or He, or Eli as Jesus called out, while on the cross.
Eli, Eli, why have your forsaken me.
I AM, I AM, why have you forsaken me.
I say it should be just, H, or Eli or I AM in English, because in Exodus 3-14
Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.
I AM says to Moses, tell them that I AM has me to you.
InternetOneOS 6 months ago
the gods of the Pagans came down to earth and relates to men.
mankasban 6 months ago
Yes
gunay205 6 months ago
u must not have not been listening to what u was reading because God said I am The God(ALLAH) of abraham.The book u call the oldtestament is not the book u read now what u have is the watered down version learn hebrew than read the real old testament before u post things u know nothing about.what u need to do is study your book and faith a little more.just to let u know God is not bound by time,time does not exist in the presence of God
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youneekk 6 months ago
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I came home to the Bible and met the I AM - the Living and True God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob!!!
rev2214 7 months ago
I love your work Jay! God Bless You!
Thuva44 7 months ago
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Thuva44 7 months ago
@Thuva44 Also I pray to Jesus that he keeps you safe from all the enemies your creating by speaking the truth. \/
Thuva44 7 months ago
SHOW ME WHERE JESUS SAID I BRING NEW RELIGION FOR JEWS,CROSS IS HOLY,MOSES BOOK LIE ABOUT ONE LORD BUT JESUS SAID I SAY TRUTH TRINITY 3 gods father,son,h ghost,Its mean moses book lie about one lord and jesus book says truth,
Where jesus used word god where when?????
Where jesus said pork,blood,gambling etc ok in my book but its forbiden in moses book,if you convince me with hard eviedence i promiss u i shell convert to cross worshiping faith,
abbekhan 7 months ago
@abbekhan you asked.."Where Jesus used Word God Where When?? Answer= Exodus 3:13-14(OLD TESTAMENT 2nd BOOK of the TORAH which is the EXODUS)
13And Moses said unto God, Behold, when I come unto the children of Israel, and shall say unto them, The God of your fathers hath sent me unto you; and they shall say to me, What is his name? what shall I say unto them?
14And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.
MegaMark214 5 months ago
@abbekhan 15And God said moreover unto Moses, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, the LORD God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, hath sent me unto you: this is my name FOR EVER, and this is my memorial unto ALL GENERATIONS.
Did you see the word I AM? in VERSE 14?..now here is JESUS saying WHO HE is..
JOHN 8-58
58Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I AM.
MegaMark214 5 months ago
@MegaMark214 ,DID JESUS USED WORD GOD IN OLD BOOK? OLD BOOK IS MOSES BOOK NOT JESUS BOOK CA 1500 YEARS BEFORE JESUS AND MOSES BOOK IS COMPLET LAW BOOK BUT NOT JESUS,
Jesus or moses never ever used word god ,Word god its greek roman language before christianty romans and greeks hade there own faith worship to idols one idol name was god so this history of word god,ALMIGHTY LORD real name is ALLAH SWT if peoples belive or not but they shell belive when they see huge fire on day of justic not now,
abbekhan 5 months ago
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@abbekhan Exodus 3:13-14(OLD TESTAMENT 2nd BOOK of the TORAH which is the EXODUS)
13And Moses said unto God, Behold, when I come unto the children of Israel, and shall say unto them, The God of your fathers hath sent me unto you; and they shall say to me, What is his name? what shall I say unto them? 14 And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you. Did you see the word I AM? in VERSE 14?
MegaMark214 5 months ago
@abbekhan now see this verse JESUS PROCLAMED him self as "THE" I AM.
John 8:58 (NEW TESTAMENT) Jesus PROCLAIMED that HE is "the" I AM.(THE ALMIGTHY GOD)
58Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I AM.
MegaMark214 5 months ago
@MegaMark214
truth is hard to liston but its fact that christianty and judism they dont follow laws of each other books,Jesws till today refuse jesus,Christians till today they dont belive on moses book laws and self in there new book they dont have any laws,Religion based on laws if ypou dont have laws how you can say i have religion but without laws,Non abramic faiths like hinduism,sikhism,buddism have there laws but christian faith is without laws,Every thing is allow in this faith,
abbekhan 5 months ago
OY fool your a magget fagget I'll kick your
ass meet me any time fool
gunay205 7 months ago
Oh christ4all you fool where are you
You fool
gunay205 8 months ago
@gunay205 NO HE IS THE moon god of Arabia!
Where u hiding? Come out of the cracks you COCKROACH!
christ4all2allmyall 7 months ago
Christians are fooled by Jezus and Moslims are fooled by Mohamad, you want to fight because of a name that you think is JeHoVa which can also be JaHuVu or even JuHeVe?
zangir2007 8 months ago
ur simply retarted!
saweezaaa 8 months ago
God is for mankind not just for christions
You laugh at Muslims your a fool the joke
Is on you, your just a fool, by the way if Jesus is God why did they leave him
And fled the disiples were cowards
I myself would have died for God if that
Was the case but he was just a man
Ps how's your pork
gunay205 8 months ago
@TheEYeZzZz btw I don't expect u to run from this point........since u muslims have cheekily come up alongside our religion & r saying our religion is corrupted.....we expect u to have GREAT knowledge about things....so then WE EXPECT MUCH from u guys.......
but sadly like ur silly profit he boasted MUCH & delivered little!
Please explain the verses & how & why they fight against each other & don't do what or silly muslims do- by saying it is obvious- BCOS I HAVE ALREADY STATED WHY IT ISN'T!
christ4all2allmyall 8 months ago
@TheEYeZzZz no they are not...you have to state in what way they are fighting one another- you have just taken two seperate verses & matched them up against each other....it is you who have to state they are at odds with each other........HAVE U NEVER HEARD THE WISE SAYING? What then did ur stupid profit teach u?
That a text(verse) taken out of context becomes a pretext.
Please don't just give me a verse....show me u understand the meaning of each verse & then state how they fight each other?
christ4all2allmyall 8 months ago
"Allah" is simply a transliteration of the Arabic word for "God." Christian Arabs and the Arabic Bible call God "Allah" as well. Specifically, it is the Muslim deity that is a false god.
AgApE010 8 months ago
@TheEYeZzZz this statement proves that Christian scholars are honest yet doesn't prove corruption- but only states a fact...which u have drawn a false conclusion to!
Hadith clearly inform us that Ayesha bare witness that a goat did come & eat some of your eternal(hahaha!) quran & the stoning verse was part of this which went missing out of uthman's quran!
Since u lie & believe something possibly missing in book =corruption quran MUST BE 100% CORRUPTED BY YOUR OWN STUPID REASONING.
christ4all2allmyall 8 months ago
@TheEYeZzZz tell me then Miss no bullshit? Enlighten us as to the fact that God's righteous decree demands the sin be punished with death; so if all sin- how can all be saved from death. and if God forgives as you say he does- then how can he not be a LIAR like muslims- since he has said the sin will be punished with death...what is God's word empty?
Or is our God a contrary god like allah? who says 1 thing next & then another thing? Or excuses things with abrogation theory?
no islam=bullshit
christ4all2allmyall 8 months ago
@TheEYeZzZz what then if a man rape you, kill your beloved husband; enslave your children; whore u out for money; steal all your land; spread lies about your family history & inform others that you r an apostate of Islam......& when finally the judge rescues you from the plight- your tormentor says to the judge forgive me??
And the judge forgives him simple as that......what will you want? Justice and PUNISHMENT FOR THE GUILTY.
The punishment for sin is HELLFIRE! How can we escape? 4 all sin?
christ4all2allmyall 8 months ago
@TheEYeZzZz u dumbschmuck!!
If a muslim hater say: allah is this & that & ascribe blasphemy to Muhammad & he ask allah forgiveness- when muslims are going to kill him- why don't the muslims accept this that he is forgiven & let him go??
U fool! if allah just forgive & that is that then he is unjustice- for he doesn't punish the sinner & thus shows no deterrent 4 sining. Even ungodly civilisations punish those who ask for forgiveness- least victims seek the justice that is due- allah =unfair!
christ4all2allmyall 8 months ago
@TheEYeZzZz thank u.....there is no better endorsement that one is right than silly muslims who accuse u of all sorts of things......we know muslim lie too much- so whatever they say about u, we naturally take the opposite view.
How can God be JUST & forgiving at the same time?? His justice means the guilty MUST be punished & his mercy MUST means the guilty have an opportunity to be forgiven...this was foreshadowed in Israel's temple sacrifices but FULFILLED IN THE SACRIFICE ON THE CROSS!
christ4all2allmyall 8 months ago
@TheEYeZzZz Christ honoured women & under Christianity there have been many prophetic & doctors of the church; whilst Christ has said we are to love our wives as Christ loves the church. This is the standard. The silence quote in bible needs to be read in context- & if I followed muslims stupid interpretations this would make Paul a hypocrite & stupid like Muhammad by hims saying contrary stuff like: all competent to instruct each other; all can prophesy; all have a word, psalm, hymn, etc READ!
christ4all2allmyall 8 months ago
@TheEYeZzZz if u want a serious debate...then u have to ask allah to change u into a man.....since allah made u stupid.....which ur the worst of creation- since ur r doubly stupid: a muslim & a muslim woman......u best get some muslim to beat out the rebellious female spirit that allah informs makes u stupid & deficient in religion & common sense & makes u not prayer- and all the other silly things Mo has falsely charged women with.
christ4all2allmyall 8 months ago
@TheEYeZzZz hahaha! I have a rule: what ever muslims spitefully charge me of I dismiss it but apply it to them 100%= isn't you using filthy language like 'ass'? Are u a christian now? Or are you lying again saying only Christians use filthy language when u yourself use it??
You still haven't answered my questions; btw u can't debate....even Islam informs us women in Islam r much more stupid than men & hell has more women(inc bad muslimahs) than men...u r too stupid to think much less debate!
christ4all2allmyall 8 months ago
@TheEYeZzZz typical inarticulate idiotic responses from a muslim...I stated my reasons- yet u had no answer 2them- yet u use terms like ignorant & extremely childish....U IDIOT u are not submitters but dismissers= for u dismiss wise words.
U dumb fool- u have set a precedent....whenever a non muslim makes a critical statement on Islam- when u respond we will dismiss you as ignorant & extremely childish(without saying how or why just as dumb muslims do).
Mo plagiarised our judgement day! Silly!
christ4all2allmyall 8 months ago
@TheEYeZzZz shut up fool!
These are ur silly Islamic sayings: "but over the year after Jesus, things were added to it" & "it is said that Luke, Mark, Matthew and John were born hundreds years after Jesus".........
1. Tell us what year & what things were added to it- and where is ur source of proof? When we show your Quran being changed under the Caliphs we give Islamic proofs
2. You nincompoop- only Mark wasn't one of original 12 disciples yet Mark was disciple of Peter =all 4 b4 100yr= U LIAR!
christ4all2allmyall 8 months ago
@TheEYeZzZz Mo said his Quran confirms the bible & that his name was written it- so why would he say his book confirms a corrupted book & his name was written in a book of corruption? U stupid fool u don't know what u talking about?
Further I don't need 2read the bible- but U MUST SHOW US THE SO CALLED REAL BIBLE IN ORDER 4 US 2COMPARE IF UR WORDS R NOT LIES....4u muslims lie too much.
The reason is Mo was plagiarists & had christian influences but he was ignorant of spiritual things- like YOU
christ4all2allmyall 8 months ago
@TheEYeZzZz Can u tell me who, when, why & how bible was corrupted? And can you also tell us why Mo your prophet is informing us to hold on to that which we have in our hands(bible)? Do u know more than ur own prophet? Or are u less stupid than he is?
It is you who claim our bible is corrupted THEN SHOW IT & not just state it you silly girl!!
christ4all2allmyall 8 months ago
@TheEYeZzZz Isn't it you who needs to calm down? WHY U SHOUTING AT ME? WE WANT PROOF?? NOT DUMB MUSLIMS USELESS WORDS ON IT!!
if a person comes and says any of my books cannot be trusted & it was corrupted- and when I ask this person he tells me some sh*t like it has been changed so many times but can't show WHAT HAS EXACTLY CHANGED(FOR WORSE)....for corruption must mean change for worse.
Since Quran would be BIGGEST CORRUPTION since it CHANGED from oral to written format= quran has CHANGED!
christ4all2allmyall 8 months ago
@TheEYeZzZz BTW......PLEASE DON'T INSULT OUR RELIGION BY SAYING IT IS CORRUPTED & PLEASE DON'T INSULT OUR INTELLIGENCE BY TRYING TO LIE THAT WE INSULT YOUR RELIGION......IT IS WORST THAN SH*T........YOU MUSLIMS R STUPID PEOPLE........YOU TELL US OUR BIBLE IS CORRUPTED & WHEN WE ASK U WHEN, WHERE, HOW, WHOM OF BIBLICAL CORRUPTION- U 1ST GO DUMB LIKE KABA & THEN U TELL US WATCH CERTAIN SILLY VIDS THAT LIE ABOUT BIBLICAL CORRUPTION.
Fool Mo ur profit ENDORSED OUR BIBLE...U STUPID FOOL!!
christ4all2allmyall 8 months ago
@TheEYeZzZz SHUT UP U A-HOLE!! Do I have dumb muslim written over my head?? Am I a stupid islamicist that believes any sh*t from silly muslimahs mouths???
You have just insulted our religion by implying our bible is corrupted & is no longer the word of God- yet you hav e shown no proof.
In order for the bible to be corrupted there must have been a pure or real one? right?? THEN U ISLAMIC IDIOT SHOW US THIS REAL ONE....SO WE CAN SEE IF U ISLAMIC IDIOTS ARE TELLING THE TRUTH....SHOW US PLEASE?
christ4all2allmyall 8 months ago
Allah is pre-Islamic. There are linguistic accounts for that.
gwu2011 9 months ago
@gwu2011 allah was the chief god for any god in Arabia. it is a generic term....as seen when Mo began debating with Christians from Najran- he called them to worship allah- of which THEY SAID THEY ALREADY WERE.....YOUR PROPHET SAID THEY WERE LIARS.
Mo knew Christians were worshipping Allah as Father, Son & Spirit. The Najran were before & after Mo created his false god allah out of the kaba.
SHOW US PROOF OF YOUR ALLAH IN JESUS'S DAYS???
christ4all2allmyall 9 months ago
Quran:
(Surah-5-the maidah-vs-3)
This day have I perfected for you your religion and completed my favor on you and chosen for you Islam as religion; but whoever is compelled by hunger, not inclining willfully to sin, then surely Allah is forgiving, merciful.
quranresponse 10 months ago
@quranresponse , Why don't you prove all things? First, Moses and Jesus both said, ''Let every Word of God be established by two or three witnesses. A witness a another person who agrees with what YHWH gave. Muhd has not ONE other witness to the Quran. The dark spirit who forced hi to recite, knowing he cannot, is cruel and GABRIEL would NOT lie as that spirit did in forcing him to do sth he cannot do.
GodsSeer 10 months ago
Quran:
(Surah-3-the women-vs-125)
And who has better religion than he who submits himself entirely to Allah? And he is doer of god (to others) and follows the faith of ibrahim (Abraham), the upright one, and Allah took ibrahim as a friend.
quranresponse 10 months ago
@quranresponse , The one who submits to the righteousness of Christ is far better and is HOLY, Muslims are NOT Holy and cannot cease from sin. Just because you cover it up with lies, its still in your heart to do.
GodsSeer 10 months ago
Quran:
(SURAH-3-THE FAMILY OF IMRAN-VS-19)
Surely the (true) religion with allah is Islam, and those to whom the book had been given did not show opposition but after the knowledge had come to them, out of envy among themselves; and whoever disbelieve in the communications
quranresponse 10 months ago
of allah the surely allah is quick in reckoning. 20-but if they dispute with you, say: I have submitted myself entirely to allah and (so) every one who follows me; and say to those who have been given the book the unlearned people: do you submit yourselves? So if they submit then indeed they follow the right way; and if they turn back, then upon you is only the delivery of the message and Allah sees the servants.
quranresponse 10 months ago
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What about witness false?
(Exodus-ch-23-vs-1)
“you must not take up an untrue report. do not cooperate with a wicked one by becoming a witness who schemes violence. 2-you must not follow after the crowd for evil ends; and you must not testify over a controversy so as to turn aside with the crowd in order to pervert justice.
quranresponse 10 months ago
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What happen if I hear public cursing?
(Leviticusc-ch-5-vs-1)
“Now in case a soul sins in that he has heard public cursing and he is a witness or he has seen it or has come to know of it, if he does not report it, then he must answer for his error.
What about bribe?
(Exodus-ch-23-vs-8)
“You are not to accept a bribe, for the bribe blinds clear sighted men and can distort the words of
Righteous man.
quranresponse 10 months ago
Quran:
{Surah-25-the criterion (furqan)-vs-1}
Blessed is he who sent down the furqan upon his servant that he may be a Warner to the nations;
2-he, whose is the kingdom of the heavens and the earth, and who did not take to himself a son, and who has no associate in the kingdom, and who created everything, then ordained for it a measure.
quranresponse 11 months ago
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(Surah-4-the women-vs-17)
Repentance with Allah is only for those who do evil in ignorance, then turn (to Allah) soon, so these it is to whom Allah turns (mercifully), and Allah is ever knowing, wise.
18-and repentance is not for those who go on doing evil deeds, until when death comes to one of them, he says: surely now I repent; nor (for) those who die while they are unbelievers. These are they for whom we have prepared a painful chastisement.
quranresponse 11 months ago
no you did not answer my question, f consisting of more parts which function in unity as that one personal being does this means that the body cannot function without the soul and brains? please answer with yes or no thanks friend :P
well you question once again is not really addressing the issue, and is not worth answering
as i was saying ... that a human out look is only a comparison, and not an ideal one
God is one in being, but 3 in persons
followerofjesus1984 11 months ago
@followerofjesus1984 my 2 questions are relevant to the subject. 1) if jesus is God then he should be divine. but if he bleeds and die then he is human regardless whether the word person became flesh or not. 2) if the body functions with soul, brains and body what if the body didnt have brains and soul will it function? because it is related to the example God is one nature and was revieled in 3 persons but when we take one person individually will he be God or one person?
bozzeed 11 months ago
@bozzeed my 2 questions are relevant to the subject. 1) if jesus is God then he should be divine. but if he bleeds and die then he is human regardless whether the word person became flesh
what you fail to realise is that he was both human and divine, and only one aspect of him died the human flesh, while the divine nature still lived on
so when he died on the cross which by the way was for your sins, it was the flesh that he took on which died
followerofjesus1984 11 months ago
@followerofjesus1984 2) if the body functions with soul, brains and body what if the body didnt have brains and soul will it function?
the brain and the soul can live on with out the body, --- what you are doing is twisting what i am saying ... its an illistration of something which appears to be one but under a closer inpection it consists of many parts which function in giving it the ability to work as one
followerofjesus1984 11 months ago
@followerofjesus1984 so when dealing with what i say make sure you not distorting what i say
followerofjesus1984 11 months ago
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@followerofjesus1984 if jesus was both human and divine, and only one aspect of him died the human flesh, while the divine nature still lived on, does this means that all human are divine since this applies to all? if the brain and the soul can live on without the body, can the body live without them?
bozzeed 11 months ago
@bozzeed no, cause we are not divine ... where as Jesus was and still is
ur still asking question do not pretain to the topic, the only reason i said about the human being one in one way but have many parts which function with in this one being
was to illistrat they there is a way for one object to exist in more than one in another way
it was not an opendoor invite for u to ask questions which are not pretaining the main issue
followerofjesus1984 11 months ago
@followerofjesus1984 fine then let us go back to the subject, God is one nature seen ion the PERSONS, now is the father a nature or a PERSON?
bozzeed 11 months ago
@bozzeed a misdirected question and is not relivent,
as i have stated more times than i can recall ..... God is the nature which the three persons share, dont ask is the father God or a person as this very dishonest
followerofjesus1984 11 months ago
@followerofjesus1984 so what you are saying the father is God not a person?
bozzeed 11 months ago
@bozzeed no, u now just making things as u go ..... i said God is a nature which three persons the father, the son and the holy sirit are that nature
followerofjesus1984 11 months ago
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@followerofjesus1984 so if God is a nature which three persons the father, the son and the holy sirit are that nature, does this means that God is 3 Gods? or God is 3 persons?
bozzeed 11 months ago
@bozzeed what have i said all along 3 persons who are in union through the nautre which is God
dont bring 3 Gods into it as i do not believe that, and no christian ever has?
followerofjesus1984 11 months ago
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@followerofjesus1984 you said God is a nature which three persons the father, the son and the holy sirit are that nature. then you tell me the son was a human. so im asking is the father God or a person?!
bozzeed 11 months ago
@bozzeed , wow u misrepresent every i say
i said God nature, which 3 persons are eternally seen through, the father, the word and the holy spirit
the secon person ... the word / son took on flesh ( clothed him in flesh) and became a human,
and u asking is the father God or a person is dishonest as i have adressed it God is the father, the son, and the holy spirit,
do not seperate one and ask rediculous questions based on a misrepresentation ..... its not an either / or senario,
followerofjesus1984 11 months ago
@followerofjesus1984 plus this can be turned around on you is the quran eternasl or physical ....
followerofjesus1984 11 months ago
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@followerofjesus1984 sure friend ask any thing you want to know we also ask about anything. however i dont understand why cant i ask if the father is God or a person? i need to know his nature before i address him. so can you help me please? if God nature, which 3 persons are eternally seen through, the father, the word and the holy spirit, what about the father is he a God nature or is he just a person?
bozzeed 10 months ago
@bozzeed here is it ............... God is a nature / being which is comprised as 3 person
to ask is the father God or a person is a really misleading question as if u only accept one or the other and except the biblical standpoint which is as i have stated the father is one of the persons who by the nature which they all hold is God
you dont need to know anything, u just need to accept and with time u will hopefully understand
followerofjesus1984 10 months ago
@followerofjesus1984 and not except the biblical truth
followerofjesus1984 10 months ago
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@followerofjesus1984 thanks friend and i will accept it if im convinced with your answers, so now since you have said the father is one of the persons who by the nature which they all hold is God, does this means that the other persons are also hold the nature of God?
bozzeed 10 months ago
@bozzeed thats what i have said all along,
whether u believe me does not make a difference to me, i only present the biblical truth, and you not believing it does make invalid
followerofjesus1984 10 months ago
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@followerofjesus1984 and what does the biblical truth says? since you have said the father is one of the persons who by the nature which they all hold is God, does this means that the other persons are also hold the nature of God?
bozzeed 10 months ago
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@followerofjesus1984 and what does the biblical truth say? since you have said the father is one of the persons who by the nature which they all hold is God, does this means that the other persons are also hold the nature of God?
bozzeed 10 months ago
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also what is the difference between a person as physical and a person as intellect and emotion? if humen are persons in physical, intellectual and emotional?
i believe u have missed my point on this
God is divine , we are not
he has existed as 3 divine persons which consist of a interlect, a will , emotion --- meaning he has a high understand, like the fact he knows all ting and we do not
followerofjesus1984 11 months ago
@followerofjesus1984 we have the same aspects but they are limited in our nature , we do not know what will happen in ten years but God does
so the basic difference and the most fundamental difference is we do not know all things --- this sets us apart
followerofjesus1984 11 months ago
u know u can not call us friend boozeed, according surah 5 : 51 .... u can not call me a friend, unless its under some deceptive ploy
now all ur questions , no matter how rediculous they are, have been answered, its no my problem if you are to dumb to accept them
maybe when posing a question u can read it first. to see if it makes sence as 95 percent of what you have said is jibberish
followerofjesus1984 11 months ago
@followerofjesus1984 surah 5:51 means dont let jews or christians rule over us because in christians case the churches control the people and the christian governments create huge national debt in favour of the government. you dont believe me? where do you live and what is your national debt? to which bank you owe this money? and why did your christian rulers messed up your country? if you dont want to be a friend that is up to you as for my question you answered correctly sura 5: 73-75
bozzeed 11 months ago
@followerofjesus1984 however i asked you as a christian if you believe that God is one form that controls 3 persons, my question was is the father ( just the father) God or a person?
bozzeed 11 months ago
@bozzeed and i said ur asking the wrong questions --------- that is why ur not getting an answer
i have said that God is a nature / being which is seen in three persons ... the father, the son, the holy spirit
the way ask the question is leading u say is the father God or a father like this is what we say
followerofjesus1984 11 months ago
@followerofjesus1984 i am only asking because i do not understand! i am only asking for clarification. you said God is a natue being. you also said that God is one seen in three persons. that is why i am asking is the father God or a person? can you answer please friend?
bozzeed 11 months ago
@bozzeed no, i said God is a nature or a being, or God in his being is a nature ... which has been revealed in 3 persons
its a deceptive question is the father God or a person, it like u want an answer like one or the other God is a naature which is seen in all three as i said above
like is allah ------ God or just a name
followerofjesus1984 11 months ago
@followerofjesus1984 i did not ask a deceptive question im trying to understand your concept of God. so if God is a nature of being which has been revealed in 3 persons, why do you say jesus is the son of God? this contradicts with God revealed himself in 3 persons.
bozzeed 11 months ago
@bozzeed wow, just one minute i never said you ask a deceptive question, i said the question was deceptive because it give you only two choice is the father God or a person? when no Christian would answer this question as it leads to something very misunderstood, and it is gonna misrepresent what we believe and what the bible teaches
God in his being is a nature which is seen or revealed through 3 persons -------
followerofjesus1984 11 months ago
@followerofjesus1984 why wouldnt you answer this question friend? which is if the father is God or a person? is it because you dont have confidence in your belief? if not please answer. also if God is the father, the word and the holy spirit, is the word God or a person?
bozzeed 11 months ago
@bozzeed hmm i wonder, the question itself is deceptive, when it comes to God, there is no either or questions, God is a nature which has eternally existed as3 person, the scripture reveal this fact
ihave more faith in my belief than you have in yours, my friend, this question is illogical and not worth the a reply as it is deceptive in nature
yet again ask a really illogigical question
followerofjesus1984 11 months ago
@followerofjesus1984 not at all im not asking illogical question at all. you said God is a nature which has eternally existed as3 person. my question is related to the nture of one of these PERSONS for example, is the father God (a nature which has eternally existed as3 person) or is he 1 person?
bozzeed 11 months ago
@bozzeed oh boy, yet another illogical question
i have said many times that God is a nature, which eternally exists as 3 persons.... the father, the word / son, and the holy spirit
you cant seperate one of the persons and ask if he is God or a person or all three person, when the one u choose is one of the persons
all three person share the nature which is God
followerofjesus1984 11 months ago
@followerofjesus1984 yes but jesus had blood! does this means that the father also have blood? also jesus ate food like the rest of us. does this means that the father goes on lunch breaks?
bozzeed 11 months ago
@bozzeed of course Jesus had blood, u would not expect any different, --- john 1 : 14 the word became flesh...... the word took on the flesh of man for a reason to die for our sin
no --- the father does not have flesh, his is spirit (not the holyspirit) john 4 : 24
what daft question, does the father go on lunch breaks?
has allah decieved you so much u cant think for ur self
followerofjesus1984 11 months ago
@followerofjesus1984 but you have just said:all three person share the nature which is God! then you make a different statement by confirming that jesus had blood and the fathe is aspiit! so this means that all three person do not share the nature which is God! that is why i am asking: is the father God or a person?
bozzeed 11 months ago
@bozzeed now now, i have not said anything different, i said all three eternally existed as God, but one of theperson became flesh in the person of Jesus .... which is in john 1 : 14 ... to answer one of ur questions where u said jesus had blood
the other i said the father remained in the spirit john 4 :24 .... but the son had the spirit in him to when he was in the form of a man,
only one of the person became a man, which is the word / son( not the father, or holy spirit)
followerofjesus1984 11 months ago
@followerofjesus1984 when i used person to denote the three person in the Godhead
person here is not a pysical person as in u or i , but a person which consists of a will, intellect and emotion
followerofjesus1984 11 months ago
@followerofjesus1984 so when the oerson became flesh, he became a different form of the father and the holy spirit. you have said "all three person share the nature which is God"! so how God can be humen if he is spirit? also what is the difference between a person as physical and a person as intellect and emotion? if humen are persons in physical, intellectual and emotional?
bozzeed 11 months ago
@bozzeed wow let take one step at a time
they are all divine , not finite like us humans--- person is used diffenciate between the father, son / word and the holy spirit
not different form, from the beginning they existed together in one form ----- spirit, the taking on a human nature has nothing to do with the spirit, but everything to do with salvation
Jesus is both God inhis divine nature and a man in his human nature ---- like humans are made different factors
followerofjesus1984 11 months ago
@followerofjesus1984
like the fact we one in being but 3 in another sence we have a soul, a mind and body
like the laws of God have 3 different parts the judicial laws ( the ten commandments),, the socail laws and the sacrifical law
the first show us we sinners by nature and need saving, the other two function for us understand how God would save us
followerofjesus1984 11 months ago
@followerofjesus1984 how God can be a human if he is a spirit, we dont believe God is eternally a human, but he took on flesh,
the difference is one suggust he was a man which we do not believe, the other tells us he became a man
so we are not saying he has always been a man, no, God has been a spirit since forever, and at some point in history one of the divine person too on flesh and became a man
followerofjesus1984 11 months ago
@followerofjesus1984 if jesus was devin in his human nature, then how can you explain being bleeding when crucified and dying?! if you say we are one in being a soul a mind and a body, can the body live without the soul and mind?
bozzeed 11 months ago
@bozzeed lol, misqouting me does not help your case ---- isaid nothing avout him being divine in his human nature
i said he was a man in his human nature, and he was God in his divine nature meaning Jesus had two natures one divine and the other human --- any christian will say this
followerofjesus1984 11 months ago
@followerofjesus1984 and how do i explain him bleeding on the cross
well this has two thing i can say
one he was also a man who was capable of bleeding, in fact his blood established the new covenant --- so how did he bleed from the human nature he took on for the purpose of being a sacrifice
two your appeal to something which from the other side of your cheek you will deny as a muslim, so this makes me wonder about hos much u know of ur own faith
followerofjesus1984 11 months ago
@followerofjesus1984 and again u miss my point on us humans
being one in a personal way, but consisting of more parts which function in unity as that one personal being
followerofjesus1984 11 months ago
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@followerofjesus1984 if you wonder about my faith i believe that God is divine and jesus was a human messenger from God. now please explain how can God be 3 persons all the persons are divine when the word becomes human still be divine and not divine at the same time. also you did not answer my question if consisting of more parts which function in unity as that one personal being does this means that the body cannot function without the soul and brains?
bozzeed 11 months ago
@bozzeed oh he is much more than just a messanger from God, and that i clear as day even from ur book
a few passage to setlle this in surah 3 : 45 Jesus is Gods word ... no other prophet according to the quran has this title,----- in surah 19 :19 Jesus is called holy, yet no other prophet is acording to hte quran, he also gave life to a bird from clay yet no other prophet not even muhammad could do this
this evidence altho so small indicate more than islam allows for
followerofjesus1984 11 months ago
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@followerofjesus1984 now please explain how can God be 3 persons all the persons are divine when the word becomes human still be divine and not divine at the same time.
i have answed this , my friend, and u refuse to accept it and undersand it based off of what you are led to believe
God is one in nature / being, and 3 in persons ( being is what something is, person is who some one is, 2 seperate distinctions)
all three person have the nature that is divine
followerofjesus1984 11 months ago
@followerofjesus1984 i have not said he was not devine when he became a man, so stop saying this,
what i said is the word took on flesh .... john 1 : 14 the word had a human naure whilest retaining his divine nature
Jesus is the word of God meaning he had two natures , 1 human, 1 divine
followerofjesus1984 11 months ago
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@followerofjesus1984 also you did not answer my question if consisting of more parts which function in unity as that one personal being does this means that the body cannot function without the soul and brains?
i have answered this
the human body is a great example of this too, one in unity , still there many parts ---- arms, legs, eyes, ears, thighs, calfs, biceps , triceps, and many others acting union to function as one
followerofjesus1984 11 months ago
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@followerofjesus1984 you did not say jesus was not devine when he became a man but you confirmed that he was crucified and bleed to death. how can a device [erson bleeds and die? no you did not answer my question, f consisting of more parts which function in unity as that one personal being does this means that the body cannot function without the soul and brains? please answer with yes or no thanks friend :P
bozzeed 11 months ago
@followerofjesus1984 sura 3:45 yes its says Jesus is God's word it doesnt say jesus is God this is confirmed in sura 4:171. surah 19:19 doesnt say holy at all and according to the Quran jesus gave birth to birds and cures the ill sura 5:110 but with God's permision just as with God's permision moses split the sea and crossed with israelits.
bozzeed 11 months ago
@bozzeed yes its a very bad distortion of what Christian were teaching in the days of muhammad, they were referencing to john 1
and so its irrelivant whether or not the quran says he is God ...
as the bible tells the truth of the matter
and 4 : 171 says the same thing but with an addition of he is a spirit from himm too
is allahs word eternal?
followerofjesus1984 11 months ago
@followerofjesus1984 so u say that surah 19 : 19 does not say Jesus is holy, dont lie as it does the angel gabriel said to mary the followingto thee (mary) a gift of a holy son
Jesus created a life in form of a bird --- by breathing into it ....
and it was not all by allahs permission ... did he curse the tree by God permission, no, it was his own authoriy in the gospels
followerofjesus1984 11 months ago
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@followerofjesus1984 you did not say jesus was not devine when he became a man but you confirmed that he was crucified and bleed to death. ?
im not sure what u mean by how can a device [erson bleeds and dies ... but the second person of the triune God took on flesh for the very purpose of being an atonement for sin
followerofjesus1984 11 months ago
@followerofjesus1984 actually christians during the days of mohammad didnt say jesus is God refer to arians in alexandria and arabia. sura 4:171 is allah's word eternal? do you know what "word" means? sura 19:19 no the quran doesnt say jesus is holy the christian person who translated the quran says that. yes jesus did create a life into a bird and yes it was with allah's permision because all prophets performed their miracles with allah's permision encluding jesus peace be upon him.
bozzeed 11 months ago
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@bozzeed why do you say jesus is the son of God? this contradicts with God revealed himself in 3 persons
no it does not contradict, ue just not willing to accept that God is far beyond your understanding ..... Gd is the father, the word and the holy spirit.... the second person being the word became a man, in the person of Jesus ( this is why he is called the son of God) ....because he is the word / the son
followerofjesus1984 11 months ago
jesus is not son of god!!! he is son of pig.
ghostrider98xx 11 months ago
@ghostrider98xx the pig is your father :P
bozzeed 11 months ago
wm: it seems as though the bible is true?
C: indeed, when it says the wicked will go from bad to worse, this we can see in bozo- he is becoming a religious loony!
wm: I have never heard or seen someone possessed, but I have heard their profit Mohammad was controlled by satan.
C: bozo is so embroiled in him, he no longer is able to think or act rationally in these debates, but is captive to the wiles of Satan.
wm: dumb fool, for he who loves evil, Satan loves & will make his home with him!
christ4all2allmyall 1 year ago
is there no wonder that muslimseem to have a problem with context of all manners, they take a whole passage and pit it against each other to make it say something it does mean or say
followerofjesus1984 1 year ago
wm: bozo can't b stupid 2think that he can fail 2listen 2others & distort others faith & still b tru?
C: indeed all cults believe this- they all believe bcos they have right religion they can lie, cheat, mock 4 their religion!
wm: crazy?
C: indeed- these things are what Satan promotes & they show they serve a god of lies, 4that is what their allah is.
wm: thank God Jesus is in CHARGE & NOT this tyrannical allah.
C: indeed allah has been seekin 2 usurp Jesus but he will always fail!
wm:Amen
christ4all2allmyall 1 year ago
wm: is there really no hope?
C: look @ him- after he leaves this site he will target some unsuspecting Christian & seek 2 pose stupid questions, not realising fools can't ask discerning 1s!
wm: I pray for him all the time.
C: indeed, but the bible talks about fools who are so entrapped by their sin & so, so love their deceitful ways, that they are destined 4 DESTRUCTION!
wm: this can't be bozzeed?
C: indeed, 4 he no longer has ears2 hear or heart2 understand otherwise he would REPENT!!
christ4all2allmyall 1 year ago
also you are stupid because you keep giving me wrong information. you say God is one but seen in three persons. so is one person a God?! and why
no, i give the right information my friend, it is you whom is misunderstanding what i say
God is a nature which seen in 3 persons .... one person being God , 2 persons being that same God, and all three person are even more so that God
i am not giving you the wrong information , i am giving the biblical veiw and u are not able to comprehend
followerofjesus1984 1 year ago
@followerofjesus1984 YOU say God is 1 who is seen in 3 persons. i only asked you is the father GOD? or a person?! please whose ONE answer.
bozzeed 1 year ago
@bozzeed
i have answered this already, the father is one o three person who is God
followerofjesus1984 1 year ago
@followerofjesus1984 im sorry but i did not ask you if the father is one or three. i asked you is the father GOD? or a PERSON?! please answer with one word only.
bozzeed 1 year ago
wm: I have jus seen bozo comments, he really is a nincompoop!
C: indeed, for how would he feel if some1 held him to saying of his deity: is he allah or is he God? Or is Muhammad an illiterate or a prophet of Islam?
wm: he jus likes 2 play games.
C: it would be better for him to be an atheist, than assume he is following God & get it wrong as he has done in Islam.
wm: ok
C: the muslims know their profit was a fool, & love 2 pose questions to stop them having 2 defend their stupid profit!
christ4all2allmyall 1 year ago
@bozzeed what a complete loopy muslim we have ----- we give scripture based understanding of what it means --- and u still ask rediculous question
i have explain the trinity, its is the nature which is called God, which seen as 3 persons ( human being) 3 eternal persons which consist of a will , intellect and emotion
followerofjesus1984 1 year ago
@followerofjesus1984 sorry but your scriptures do not explain any thing! so please correct me if im wrong. you believe that God is his ownself's father, ownself's son, and his own spirit?
bozzeed 1 year ago
@bozzeed now u have gone off into a whole realm which i dont know what u want to know
the bible is clear ...... there is none but one God.... which is by definition a nutre, and this nature is seen in 3 persons---- the father, the son, and the holy spirit
God is what we call these nature which exists eternally as 3 persons ---- nothing about God being his own father , son and holy spirit, this suggest he is a psyco with a split personality disorder, cause u as mentally see God as one
followerofjesus1984 1 year ago
@followerofjesus1984 the only thing i want to know is how a God is 3 persons, when each person by him self is God! can you explain to me please, is the father God or a person? and why? also can you give other example of a nature that exists in 3 persons?
bozzeed 1 year ago
@bozzeed each person has the same nature of God, (ie) each person is God, meaning the father is one person, the son is the second person, and the holy spirit is the third person but they all one God
yea the closest thing is is a being ( human ) which we all are the same being, but we are different persons, but what u need to realise is that God is not like the creation, he is far beyond our understand in a lot of aspects .... how can we human fully understand what it is to eternal,
followerofjesus1984 1 year ago
@followerofjesus1984 see now you gave two answers that contradict themselves. 1) (ie) each person is God, which means there are three Gods 2) the father is one person, the son is the second person, and the holy spirit is the third person but they all one God. so please answer my question, is the father 1) a God? or 2) a person? please answer by choose ONE number.
bozzeed 1 year ago
@bozzeed no u just do not understand what i said, i never contradicted what i said before read a agaaing, u would only have a point of saying this if i daid each person is (a) God, but i neverr, i said
each person has the same nature of God, (ie) each person is God, meaning the father is one person, the son is the second person, and the holy spirit is the third person but they all one God
the key words to note are the same nature of God, or which is the one true God
followerofjesus1984 1 year ago
@followerofjesus1984 you did not choose a number i think you are running away from the question. this prooves that you believe in three Gods not one
bozzeed 1 year ago
@bozzeed no my reiend, it means u just dont get it, i said that all three are one God
followerofjesus1984 1 year ago
@followerofjesus1984 it is clearly written in my comments both of them that all three persons are one God
followerofjesus1984 1 year ago
@followerofjesus1984 i am not understanding because you are not explaining this to me! you see i am a humen in nature in three persons, the asking, the answering and the thinking, we are three persons but one human. now please stop answering to the asking person and answer my question: is the father 1) a God? or 2) a person? please answer by choose ONE number.
bozzeed 1 year ago
@bozzeed clearly u dont understand this, im not speaking of a human nature, but a devine nature, which seen in 3 person ( not human persons)
no, the illistration of being ---- one being ( human) but different persons is one thing, which help to define being and person
but here again this is just an illistration
im not playing this games of yours as they do not mean anything
followerofjesus1984 1 year ago
@followerofjesus1984 i am talking about my self! i am not a devine nature! i am a human nature! in three persons! you should write the persons name in the beginning of your comment! otherwise this will be confusing between us!
bozzeed 1 year ago
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followerofjesus1984 1 year ago
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@followerofjesus1984 bozzeed is a one human nature in three persons, the asking, the answering and the thinking. choose one of the following so i can answer you. also you did not answer my question, is the father 1) a God? or 2) a person? please answer by choose ONE number.
bozzeed 1 year ago
@bozzeed interesting thought process, but it doe not work, u are one being one person .... all the things u mention are not person but are apart of the same motion of communion
and again im not here to play ur games where u wabt me to give u a distinction , so u can u use my answe against me,
i answer only rational question, and not illogical , non relivent notions
followerofjesus1984 1 year ago
@followerofjesus1984 i will answer simply by saying that God is one in being or nature, and 3 in person, each person is different from each other but still are all one God , so stop these irrational, illogical, and pathetic questions which i have answered time and time again biblically
followerofjesus1984 1 year ago
@followerofjesus1984 sorry but why can your God be one and three persons at the same time and i cant? isnt that playing games? why would God be three person when one person can be God? also how can your God be the son of God? who came first? the egg? or God?!
bozzeed 1 year ago
@bozzeed God can be what he chooses to be, and if he reveals to us tha\t there three person in the being or nature ofGod, then who am i , or who are you a mere man to Judge him
that is what you muslims do all the time you Judge the very God that made you, how dare you
even if we can as human can not fully know all there is to know, should that stop us from believing in God, we can never know just what eternal feels like ... to have no beginning or end
followerofjesus1984 1 year ago
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if we can not comprehend what it is to be eternal then we have no right questioning how God has revealed himself, in three persons... and still remaining one being
followerofjesus1984 1 year ago
@followerofjesus1984 we do not say he is one person and three persons
he is one in being, but is eternally see in three persons
a being what something is ( a human) a person is who someone is ( an individual)
followerofjesus1984 1 year ago
@followerofjesus1984 suppose that i agree that God is one being and three persons, if God is a divine nature, how did one person became the son of another person? and who gave birth to the third person?
bozzeed 1 year ago
@bozzeed God did not just become anything , God has always existed as three persons, and those 3 are the father, the word, and the holy spirit
none gave bith to another in eternity, they have always been
followerofjesus1984 1 year ago
@followerofjesus1984 if God existed as three persons, then who got married and brought the son of God?!
bozzeed 1 year ago