Nobody likes being used & feeling abused. That's why he left Bahrain, it's why he distanced himself from thousands of people that came into his life. Sadly Michael couldn't trust almost everyone that entered his life & this in itself must have killed him slowly. All he wanted was to be loved as a human being for who he was; as opposed to what he could do for the other party. It seems that was too much to ask for. I pray he has finally found his peace. He will forever be missed and loved.
Sorry, let me just interrupt the story here-OK I know this has nothing to do with Michael Jackson, BUT-does the way the Reporter from Rolling Stone Magazine, Claire Hoffman talk drive anyone else as nuts as it does me? Claire honey, OPEN YOUR MOUTH when you talk! Oh my God I hate when people talk like that. Claire, you are on the verge of needed subtitles when you speak! OK, now back to our story.....just needed to get that off my chest....
Your logic is flawed and your analysis of mj is not applicable to anyone else, as you continue to ignore the question put to you. Logic is universal should not be customized to suit a particular argument. YOUR LOGIC is flawed because it only applies to Mj. When i put the same argument about other artist, singers, painters, you wont wana know!!..why is that?...I guess picasso had no talent because his abstract line of work was done MANY years before him,,,,,to you IS That logic correct???
if michael jackson was TAUGHT his talent...Then where are the other millions of jacksons, ??...its been a career that has spanned 40years...How many stars have risen to the fame of mj?..ITS YOU THAT CANT ANSWER LOGIC.Do you think when michael jacksons skin disease took hold, that he didnt have the same fear and worry that all people would have? Do you think it would be hard on a persons mind, when your skin is going white, your about to perform infront of 100,000 people.His life was hard.
the first person to paint a sunset scene does he get MORE credit than a person who perfected that scene?. Are you going to say beethoven didnt have talent because someone taught him??...are you going to say einstein was not clever because most of his theories where already out there?...are you going to say isaac newton was not a genuis because Newtons law was first developed in india and not europe?...are you going to say michael jackson didnt have talent because he was TAUGHT be others?.
Having lupus, vitaligo, and second degree burns to your scalp is something that would effect everyone. Did Jermaine have such conditions, other than his stutter?....reason why jermaine did not succed has VERY little to do with michael jackson, IF jermaine had the talent then he would have suceeded but MICHAELs talent, charisma, dance skills put him ahead, look at Janet, you going to say he sabotaged her career, shes on the most succesful female artists. When it comes dwn to it, YOUR ill-logical.
@OneDharmaYouMovement What do you mean Jermaine did not succeed? Do you mean as a dancer? Joe Jackson never trained Jermaine to dance. He was a bass guitarist. Many men took up the guitar and played bass because they were inspired by Jermaine. He was playing great music at the age of 14 as a Motown artist. Only Stevie wonder did that. Jermaine wrote songs for ssome of the greatest artsit in the industry. Stephnie Mills, The deBarge, Whitney Houston. he was a successful producer too.
NO jermaine cant do what michael jackson did. Joe didnt train michael, michael trained himself. PUT jermaine aside, Does michael jackson have talent?.How many motown artist where their that did not succeed in later projects? Jermaines time was with the jackson five..AND NOTHING ELSE after that...Michael jackson time was after the jackson five. Why dont you say that Michael stopped janets career?..What ever way you WANT to look at it, NO ONE CAN DENY THE TALENT OF MICHAEL JACKSON....esp NOT YOU
@OneDharmaYouMovement you have no idea child and you speak from a place of ignorance. So you think Mj just jumped up and trained himself, and Joe's imput doesn't count, not even MJ ever aluded to that because Michael Jacksons said ON the RECRD that his father was a genius and He taught him everything he knew. you better go find another god to serve cause you are going to be disappointed.
@Nickleby2 Name me one person that JUST DID IT. No person got up and starting to play an instrument or started singing or dancing without SOME PRACTICE OR TRAINING.. that applies to EVERY PERSON IN THE WORLD. Michael jackson was NO DIFFERENT, had he broken his legs as a young age he might have never got to where he was, had his father not pushed him as hard as he did, he might not have ever got to where he was, But in the end, it was his TALENT that kept him on stage, THAT TALENT WAS NATURAL.
YOUR WAY OF thinking is SO flawed, its amazing that in your attempt to be logical you sound completely ILLOGICAL. On on hand you talk about jermaines talent, i guess his father played no part, then you talk about elvis, i guess all those song writer and producers played no part, then you talk about JEFF, i guess he was not influenced by any other person also. So either your deluded and DONT understand that EVERYONE KNOWS that michael jackson practised trained to achieve where he got to,
in the end YOU CANT ACCEPT THAT jermaine was not as talented as micheel jackson, He did not have the appeal that sells records, he could not have danced, sang on stage at the same time. Could jermaine sing, hell yes, could he write, yes, their are many MILLIONS of jermaines out in the world, BUT michael jackson HAD a unique gift, and that was to do it all, with perfection. Would i want to see jeff daniels dancing?..NO..would i want to see jermaine performing...NO..But everyone WANTED to see MJ!
@OneDharmaYouMovementBut I guess if you don't dance and sing like MJ you have no talent. So when Joe discovered talent in his kids, Jackie, Tito and Jermaine, he was kidding himself. And Berry Gordy was fooling himself when he signed Jermaine on as a solo artist. And the fans who were going wild for Jermaine were fooling themselves. Cause only Michael jackson has talent in the Jackson family. Jermaine stutters, so what. Maybe he is too emotional.
@Nickleby2 ''guess if you don't dance and sing like MJ you have no talent''..ITS NOT what im saying its what HISTORY SAYS. iTS WHAT millions of people said, its the millions of records sold, its the selling out of world tours over and over again, thats the difference. Why are their one million artist BUT only a few that become world famous???..why is one art considered better than another, why is a picture from picasso considered better than an artist who done the same style before him? TALENT!
@OneDharmaYouMovement There are many great talents in the world that were never discovered and never will be. Money, Power and influence has much to do with success,and a bit of media publicity halps too.Mj would have never made it out of Gary if he didn't have the father with the dream and drive and work ethic to make it happen. MJ grew up in a musical household which help too. His father used to play the blues, so he had music around him so that helped.
@OneDharmaYouMovement Many MJ fans believe that Off the Wall was a better album than Thriller, but it was Thriller that got the most awards, Well, politics counts. The Music mogul did not want to award Off The Wall, but they wanted to award Thriller. Had nothing to do with best Album. If you tell people enopugh time that something is great, they will start to believe it. It is called propoganda. I have Thriller album, yet I play Jackson albums more often and prfer them. I don't follow crowds.
@OneDharmaYouMovement Bob marley could scarcely speak Jamaican, let alone English, yet his music was great. But I will not speak to you any further because you do not want a conversation, you came to fight and I don't want to fight with you.
has anyone ever heard jermaine speak, the guy cant put two sentances without stuttering. You see HAD jermaine taken Michael jacksons place, EVEN THOUGH HE DIDNT HAVE MJS TALENT, but had he been, then today NICKLEBY would be talking about how JERMAINE stopped Michael the more talented brothers from suceeding. ITS LOGICAL that YOU NICCKLEBY would take that POSITION, because right now YOU HAVE NO LOGIC TO YOUR ARGUMENT...... in just one passage what is your ARGUMENT ABOUT?
Did michael jackson ever look back and thinK, i should have done it different..HELL YES. Did he miss the comfort and intimicy of a wife, YES, because we ALL DO AND WILL. Now imagine that this MAN mj, the most famous person on earth, also had a disease that made your skin white!...IF that is not the work of god then i dont know what is!.MJ was tormented...did he hide behind the bathroom door, as he looked at his face, patches of white on his skin, did he WORRY LIKE we all would have done?..well?
Some people never get what they want, as your sitting down commeting on micheal jackson. Did you get want you want out of life??...Did you meet the girl of your dreams?Did you get the job you always wanted?..Did you travel the world?..Did you marry that girl that you always wanted, and have that family?..EVERYONE IN THE WORLD has those dreams, everyone in the world fails to achieve those dreams You get part of it, Michael jackson got part it, But we never get it all. WE all LOOK back and wonder
''This is the problem with you fans. You never saw MJ as a human being with human needs,'' and then the fool goes to on to parody most tabloids papers..LMAOO. I dont understand what your point is!!...IF you want to talk about good things that are FACT.Then michael was a lonely person, cut off, isolated, but did he carry on, YES. Did he give over 300million to charity yes he did, Did he promote the well being of others, YES he did, Did he use his massive fame, to TRY to do good?..YES. U grow up
NO one can TEACH TALENT..are we saying that Beethoven has less talent that the first person who taught him how to play the piano?....So at what point are you going to admit, that Micahel jacksons talent was far superior than any person you have mentioned. Can jeff go on stage, sing perform infront of 100,000 people, NO. Can jeff do a world tour soley based on his dance skills?...ERR no!..Jeff was a professional dancer.That was his skills, Michael jackson was a NATURAL TALENT. big BIG differnce
Where their painters that had painted similar scenes to Da vinci, Picasso, etc,YES..but why is SOME art worth more than others?...THATS the question YOU need to ask yourself. Why is a picasso more expensive than someone who has done a very similar style?..Do we say the FIRST person who painted a sunset scene, has more talent than someone like Da vinci, who mastered that scene (js an exmaple)...Can you say jeff daniels, has the talent of Michael jackson?..YES OR NO?...answer!
@OneDharmaYouMovement No actually, I burned candles and put MJ's posters in my bible and vowed not to remove them until MJ was free. I posted in the prayer vigil on fan board and prayed with fans and read scriptures, determined that MJ would be free. I travailed with the family, I took Mj's music to schools and used his music in dance lessons and for relaxation time in classes. I played his music in my classroom so that nextdoor classes got distracted. I was there for MJ through thick and thin.
@OneDharmaYouMovement I also argued that MJ was wealthy and could never go broke. I thought that his $500 million debt was media lies. however, I had to come face the truth, The fact is that MJ would have never signed that AEG contrcat if he was never desparate. Neverland was up for auction on the steps of the court house where he was tried. Everything on the property was seized. Jermaine rescued Neverland hours before it was due to go to auction, Things were that bad.
Michael Jackson did not get the tip toes dance from lame Elvis. MJ got the tip toes dance from the guy on the vid called: "Michael Jackson's Origins of the Moonwalk" at the timing of 0:47.
THAT'S THE " STAND ON THE TIP TOE" DANCE MJ DONE ON MOTOWN 25, ETC.
Of course the blacks let him off the hook for molesting small children. Im sure most didnt even think he was guilty of it. Just like many blacks thought OJ was innocent. How do you expect a culture to think rationally when a mere 500 years ago most of em were still climbing trees?!?!?!
@armatageshanks06 you weren't at the trials, you didn't hear the evidence. Those juries made the correct decisions based on the evidence heard. Are you for real, or are you really that hateful and retarded to say such things?
omg why does michael need premmission to go and do what he whats from the press media etc why????? its michaels choice !!! :( michael jackson is a beautifull human being !!! :( and a angel
and on to another point. i agree that this report is full of shit and misinformation. for example: at the 2006 world music awards, mj clearly said and commented to the press way before the start that he wont be performing and that he is not here to perform anything other than accept an award and that whole we are the world singing with the children on stage happened spontaneously and call it bad luck the sound was cut off by an accident so you cant make anything out of that but then again
@TheFahadandsana The singing with the children did not happen spontaneously. The management went out scouting for young people to sing with MJ. We knew about the kids singing days before the show. they had rehearsals. the problem was that MJ barely turned up for rehearsals, just as he did for the 2 shows. fact is that MJ turned up for an award, as that was the way tv shows could get him to turn up at their shows. that is why he has so many awards. They create them to entice him to come out.
and i say this with regret that mj has been doing this a lot but i wont judge him or anything but what i am saying is that the sheik had a case fair and square.
if your a michael jackson fan then the first thing expected from you is respect and love for all races but people like you are sadly populating the earth, scum of this earth
i am a true die hard mj fan, been for 26 years and i am an arab and no we dont kill our wives and its not in our religion nor culture and its a crime and it happens in every country and bad and money grabing people and criminals and racist people come from all over the world so dont make this into an arab issue just because of what happened between mj and that sheik and by the way nobody signs a contract and back away from it
This report is FULL of shit Tom his lawyer has said everyday MJ was in that court room MJ never once was in that court acting up..MJ never said a word nor was he ever misbehaving .Never was MJ acting up.
michael needed a friendship that was not about business, he needed someone who was just gonna let him relax. he was always performing, always showbusiness. After the courts he was destroyed emotionally. I don't think he had the strength anymore to deliver music or face the public and i dont blame him. hes not a robot hes a human being, a very sensitive one too. but above all michael needed people he cud trust and he always needed a wife.
Of course he will go to a womens' comfort room, instead of a male to decieve, much easier than being with a male comfort room. He never thought probably he will be noticed. Well, I still don't believe this guy! Anybody can say that!
Michael was supposed to be in Bahrain. However, because of his feud with his brother Jermaine, Jermaine's wife Halima Rashid a distant relative of the Arabian Royal Family suggested that space be kept between them! The weird thing about this was the fact that most of M J's fans forget what Michael did,or worse, they try to justify it! I know when I found out, I was disgusted!
Michael had the habit of attempting to curtail the careers of other family members. the one family member he was not successful with was Janet Jackson. Jermaine was safe until he left Motown. Jermaine was lucky enough to gain the friendships of LA and Baby Face famous producers of ballad Soul. They started helping Jermaine carve out a name for himsel.
@Truthnuff he didn´t want the others to become successfull?Haha!Are you joking???Janet became very successfull and he loved her!What about that,for example?
@carrie6358 This is the same sister he hire John McClaine from under. Every time you get something from Michael Jackson's Estate, you see how much Michael " loved" his sister!
@carrie6358 Actually,David Guest wrote in his memoirs that Janet hired him to manage her world tour, and he told MJ about it, expecting MJ to be happy for him, MJ made him a better offer. He turned janet down but then MJ got his lawyer to tell David Guest that he wouldn't be using him after all. David Guest went back to janet, but she was offended and told him she no longer needed him. David was bitterly disappointed, MJ had a habit of sabotaging his siblings work. Janet got away from him.
@carrie6358 Honestly, you need to learn to understand PR. ie Public relations excersice. Mj was te master of Pr manipulations. When he told the public that he vomited in the presents of his father, he sent his father a gift and apologised. MJ did it for public sympathey, it was a PR excersise. he also understand the magic of crying in public. He was teaching his daught er to cry as an act.' Just because you read it in a magazine or see it on a tv screen don't make it factual, actual.' MJ
When Michael found out, he demanded that the men work for him. When they refused, he promised them creative control of his next work. They dropped Jermaine and went to work for Michael. Michael basically had them as secretaries and refused to even allow them in the studio. They returned to Jermaine and told him what happened. Jermaine penned a song called "Word to the Bad"
Michael became mad and demanded that Jermaine leave the Encino compound. Jermaine avoided his family with the exception of the 30th anniversary at the request of Randy Jackson. However, after the trial, Michael attempted to visit Jermaine who was visiting Baharain with the Saudi Royal Family of which his current wife is a member. The Baharain Royal family invited him there. Tome Tome ( the supposed uncle of Halima) extended the invitation. Halima was furious.
@MimiLovesMJ That's when Michael's contract with the sheik fell through mysteriously. That was when he ended up in Dubai. It took a few years before both parties cooled off. Jermaine never returned to the Encino residence. To spite him Alejandra insisted on staying there with the kids. Some say that Michael's co opting of LA and Baby Face ended Jermaine's musical career. Michael later made claims that Tome scared him and had Brother Randy fire him!
If Jermaine had remained at Motown, or stayed married to Hazel Gordy, none of this would have happened. Michael showed no remorse until he was sued by the sheik.. That's when Jermaine Jackson fans found out what happened. Michael's fans try to defend his actions. However, when Michael hired McClain from Janet, the truth kinda got out! When Bob Jones wrote about this, I thought it was all lies.
Time made a point of telling folks what the brothers were really doing. Marlon didn't work at Safeway. He is a successful real estate broker. Tito wasn't playing bars. He was touring with Gladys Knight and Chakka Khan. Randy was recording with a little known group. Jermaine " Who had since forgiven his brother a bit was safely ensconced in Halima's home.Time is still suing Michael's estate to re release the article.
Prior to Michael's death, the brothers planned a documentary showcasing these facts. Michael bribed the staff to kill it! Michael died and suddenly they call the brothers and said that they wanted to release it. Randy saw through it and refused to do it! The other brothers soon soured on it! I wouldn't want to die with that on my head!
@Truthnuff Evidently, whatever you found out was not the truth. Jermaine and is wife had nothing to do with Michael leaving Bahrain. If Jermaine's wife is a distant relative of that royal family, it must be so far distant, that it is extinct.
@rocknroll773 Its the truth All right! That is why Michael started acting like he was scared of Thome Tome! Now that's the distant relative that doesn't exist! Another fact that was omitted from the official biographies was the fact that the only reason that the family was upset that he just dropped Jermaine for Michael!
@rocknroll773 There is more to this story than meets the eyes. MJ turned up in Bahrain quite unexpectedly, then there was talk about him recording music, then he upped and left. Jermaine wrote in his book that he had a contract with the prince to make music, MJ went over his head and signed with the prince, leaving jermaine out of the contract. The Prince testified in court that MJ demanded that Jermaine be dropped from the contract. Obviously something was going on.
@Nickleby2 I have not read Jermaine's book, nor do I care to, because of the fact that he does not always tell the truth. While he indeed loved his brother, it is clear that he was also envious of him. Because he never made the success that Michael made, even though he was the first to leave the group to go solo. He has proven to be selfish at times. Michael never publically spoke bad about Jermaine, but Jermaine has about Michael. He is a big cry baby. LOL. HAPPY NEW YEAR'S!!!
Why would you say Jermaine was jealous of Michael, Where is your facts? Jermaine was a very successful artist in his own right. His music was international. he was married to the daughter of the most famous record label ever. He was managing this record company with his wife, while his father in law was interested in films. Quincy Jones was a hero of Jermaine's He talked Berry Gordy into bring Quincy to do The Wiz.
@Nickleby2 Jermaine was not and is not a mega superstar like Michael was. He was struggling in his music career as he himself said on their Jackson Family Dynasty reality show. His marriage to Hazel Gordy was over four decades ago. And it didn't last that long. He's been married at least 2 to 3 times since her. What does Jermaine have other than a bunch of children by different women, that keeps him in child support court?
@rocknroll773 You don't have to tell me that Jermaine is not as mega as MJ. Nobody was as mega as MJ, so what's your problem. There were many great artist before MJ, many of them are legends, but none of them are as mega as MJ. I hope you do know that being mega and being talented is not the same thing. if it were Madona and David Beckham would not be household names, popularity has nothing to do with talent. it has to do with media attention and ecentricity and scandal. MJ provided all of that.
@rocknroll773 There are not many megastars like MJ. But nobody knows how far the other brothers would have gone if they didn't have MJ and the recoding industry to fight against. The music industry have been known to physically murder people to stop them from performing. They are real mafia. MJ lived to realise it and he probably lost his life because of it. just because you are successful in the music industry doesn't mean that you lead a successful life, and that is what all human being wants.
@rocknroll773 MJ's personal life was a most miserable one. He deserted the people that cared for him and really loved him, in exchange for hollywood and fame. he wanted to be at the top all his life, even when he stop producing meaninful music and he was prepared to do anything to stay at the top, so he manipulated the media and his crazy fans to do so. You should see how they cheat on poles to get him to win every competition. They will sit and vote hundreds of time just for him to win a pole.
@rocknroll773 I believe that Jermaine may be responsible for Mj getting the part in the WIZ which threw him and Quincy together. Jermaine put together 2 of the biggest Motown groups, Switch and The DeBarge. He wrote and produced their records. he duetted with some of the biggest names. Jermaine and his wife were frequently in magazines, far more than michael was. Jermaine Jackson discovered and produced Whitney Houstons first number One album. Everything Jermaine had MJ wanted.
@Nickleby2 The whole world knows that Diana Ross is responsible for Michael getting his part in the Wiz. Look up Michael's interview on the Countdown show in 1977 when he tells the interviewer how Diana Ross asked him if he wanted to be in it, and how was suprised when she called him and told him that he had the part. Because you do know that Michael and Diana Ross had a thing going back then. And she wanted Michael to be in the Wiz.
@rocknroll773 The whole world also know that Diana Ross was responsible for discovering The Jackson 5 and that MJ LIVED with Diana Ross. None of that was true. Didn't stop Mj from repeating it though. That was done for PR purpose. Gladis Knight discovered The jacksons, but Berry thought it would be a better PR if Diana discovered them. Fact is Jermaine was executive Producer at motown during the time. He recommended Quincy. Diana had to beg for her part so had very little say in what went on.
@Nickleby2 Why would Diana Ross have to beg for anything from Berry Gordy, being as though, he is her oldest child's father? I grew up with the Jackson 5. Michael and I are the same age. I know all about their beginning. So, let me understand, because our dialogue has gone on for some time now. Are you expressing to be a Jermaine Jackson fan?
@Nickleby2 I think you started out trying to make the point that Michael Jackson betrayed his brother Jermaine when Michael was in Bahrain. But why are you on a Michael Jackson video trying to defend Jermaine, when you could be on a Jermaine Jackson video where you would get more support? What good is it doing Jermaine, when you go on his brother Michael's videos giving Michael more views than Jermaine?
@rocknroll773 I tell the truth on MJ and Jermaine video. too many lies have been told about Jermaine. it needs to stop. fact is MJ's siblings bent over backwards to try and help him, but the same people who did nothing to help him when he was in trouble are the same ones that have lied about the family over the years. MJ was 'childlike', euphomism for immature. he needed his family to protect him, and leeches got in the way and now he is dead because of greed, but the family as usual gets blamed
@rocknroll773 Everybody knew that Neverland was set to go to auction on the steps on Santa Maria court house where Mj was tried. The media gathered to bark and mock. Jermaine stepped in and saved the day, there was no sale and MJ kept have of Neverland, however, MJ went against Jermaine and made deals with the people Jermaine got to help him. The deal included Thome Thome as manager. Jermaine thought it was a mistake, but MJ would not listen, The deal went belly up, and FANS blame Jermaine.
@rocknroll773 MJ needed $3 million dollars to post bail. MJ had no money, the family searched round to help. Randy brought in Tom Merseroux, free of charge, Jermaine got his Bahrainian Prince to deposit $2 million dollar in Mj's nanny's account to pay for the trial. The way MJ's fans behave yopu would think that his family never done anything for Mj and they were always on the take. This was always encouraged by MJ's PR machine and some of Mj's fanatic fans.
@rocknroll773 Jermaine has connections in the middle east. he travelled their all the time. He was working with the Prince when Mj's trial started. MJ needed a place to stay and jermaine organise with the Prince for Mj to stay with him. Of couse once again MJ made contract to do music with the Prince, but ordered the prince to exclude Jermaine. the Prince did that. MJ did not deliver and was sued. It cost MJ $5 million in settlement. MJ's family were alwayscleaning up Mj's mess. I'm just saying.
Michael jacksons estate (emi, mijic , atv ) owns one out of every three song in the states. Michael was never poor. Poor is going on utube to Xpress yourself.
@OneDharmaYouMovement Actually, MJ was poor. His catalogue was rich but he mortgaged all his assets and was having problems paying back the money. Neverland was up for auction until Jermaine stepped in and got someone to buy the loan from the bank. Encino was up for repossession for the umpteen time. Janet gave up on rescuing it and bought her parents a home in Vagas. Sony and Prince of Bharain and others help MJ keep the catalogue but he owed more than he could pay. $500 mil debt is not fun.
@Nickleby2 MJ had to put up all his assets for security before AEG would sign him up to do the shows. If he dodn't perform he would lose everything he owned. AEG gave him amn advance and paid his rent and buy his food. He rank Minister Farakhan 3 days before he died to say that he ddidn't think he was going to be able to perform the 50 shows and he was going to lose everything. He was in a frantic state. That was why he couldn't sleep and needed propofil.
@rocknroll773 Diana was busy begging Berry Gordy to give her the part in Dorothy. Berry wanted to give the role to Stephney Mills, a better singer, who had been playing the part on broadway, another Jermaine Jackson discovery. MJ wanted the part of scarecrow, but he wasn't sure if berry would give him the part. Berry phoned up Jermaine and asked him what he thought. Jermaine told him that MJ would be perfect for the part. Jermaine was Executive Producer and Talent Scout then. That was power.
@rocknroll773 Mj borrowed from jackie Wilson, Elvis Presley, fred Astaire, James Brown, mausomaso, Charlie Chaplin, and that guy who made the moonwalk first. Apart from grabbing his crutch, nothing Mj did was his own. His genius was taking the works of the greats and put theminto one melting pot and executing them with style and accuracy. he copied from Jermaine too. He said so in his book. Jermaine was his first inspiration. He learned to sing like Jermaine.
@Nickleby2 Number one, Michaael NEVER borrowed anything from Elvis Presley, except for his daughter, which Michael gave back when he divorced her. You do know that Michael and Jermaine have two distinct singing voices, right? Who said what in what book? While all of the Jacksons have talent, the only one that comes close to Michael's is Janet. ttyl. I am watching Lady GaGa in Times Square. She is awesome! Happy New Year's!!!
Actually, it was Michael who first said he copied jermaine's singing style. MJ used to sit and listen to his brother sing, before he joined the group. They are brothers. Jermaine is older. little brothers often copied from older ones. Why should it be strange that MJ did the same. Listen to jermaine singing before his voice broke, he was brilliant, he still is brillant. Maybe Janet and Mj sing alike, but Janet does not inspire me, I don;t think she is a good singer either.
@rocknroll773 MJ borrowed from many great artist. Even the great berry Gordy mentioned it in his memorial speach. MJ's genious was not in what HE CREATED, but what he took from great artist and merged into his own act. From Elvis he took the tip toes and the costumes, from James brown he took the footwork and Jackie Wilson he took the dropping to the floor. The white socks and short pants were borrowed too, I forgot his name, Then he never gave credit to the guy who taught him to do the moonwalk
Those people knew steps, MICHAEL JACKSON DANCED THOSE STEPS...the first person who could paint does not get more credit than a person LIKE DaVINCI..everyone before michael jackson could dance, and many people can moonwalk, but NO ONE MOVES like michael jackson. Hell you could dance the same steps as MJ but NEVER execute them like mike!..Moonwalk was only EVER used in billie jean. Mike has danced in hundreds of videos without moonwalk..ELVIS was nothing compared to true talent like MJ.
@OneDharmaYouMovement You missed the point dear. Nobody is arguing about MJ's talent or expertise. the subject was about Jermaine following MJ. My argument was that even the mighty MJ also was inspired by 'lesser human beinggs', in fact he copied most of them. He didn't invent the wheel, he just fine tune it.
@Nickleby2 that dont even make sense. Elvis never wrote a song in his life, he never danced, he cant produce, and HE COULD NEVER EVER DANCE ON THE SAME STAGE AS MICHAEL JACKSON...cos he WOULD be shown up!..Take the guy who created moonwalk, CAN he dance better than mike!!.HELL NO...NO one of the peopple you talked of HAS BETTERED mike!...You just need to MJ on stage and you CANT COMPARE HIM TO ANYONE..cos everyone else Might know A STEP, i KNOW the moonwalk BUT it dnt make me a dancer!
pretty sure mj said he took the moonwalk from streetkids, he never claimed it. Like i said moonwalk is SO MINOR in the talents of michael jackson. Its only EVER used on ONE song!..out of hundreds.... Can jermaine SING better than MIKE, he might have had a two or three great tracks dont mean his catalogue comes any where close to mjs, or his vocal ability. I SUGGEST YOU RE-REFERNCE your own references, using people that ARE SO DUBIOUS AS YOUR REFERNCES MAKES ME LAUGH..lol....why not use SNEDDON?
@Nickleby2 in essense what your saying is that Elvis did one thing, but nothing else, as with jermaine, as with others, BUT mike could pull them all off with PERFECT EXECUTION..now THAT IS TALENT!!....Talent is not Elvis with one FOOT SHUFFLE and white mans declare him as a the best dancer in the world..lol... Elvis cant write, dance, produce and just about sing....It would have been amazing to Mike jackson DESTROY ELVIS...
@OneDharmaYouMovement Don't argue with "Nickleby2" he's obviously jealous of mj for whatever reason. If he doesn't like mj why in the heck is he typing in his vids and posting comments. He likes Jermaine for whatever reason, but the whole world likes mj more than Jermaine. And if Jermaine was so good of a singer why didn't he lead the J5 group? especially him being order than mj, don't you think he should of been the lead? he was at first but as soon as mj shown his talent mj took his place, ha.
@OneDharmaYouMovement "Nickleby2" is arguing with me too about mj on another vid of mj, he's crazy. Let him like Jermaine while most of the world likes mj more, ha ha.
Jackie and Michael look most alike once mj aged from being a child and teenager. MJ and Jackie were the best looking back in 1976-up to now. The only not so cute years of mj were 1972-1975, after that mj was a handsome guy just like Jackie, better looking than Jermaine. Jermaine was cute too but Jackie and mj were more <3.
@OneDharmaYouMovement Mj hired Jeffrey Daniels to teach him the Moonwalk. Jeffrey Daniels had performed the move on Soul Train earlier and Mj liked it. Daniels went to Encino to teach Mj the move and Mj paid him. Jefrey daniels was hired by Mj to teach him moves for Beat it, and Thriller and many other MJ moves. Why Mj didn't mention Jeffrey Daniels when he was asked about the move, I will never know, but Latoya mentioned him, and so did Daniels. Mj was not a performing monkey, he was human.
@Nickleby2 ok..Like i said many times before, people can sing, dance, produce, write before michael jackson.lol...Some dancers can do steps, some can do more than a few steps, BUT NO ONE, not Jeff daniels, Not elvis, Not anyone CAN do it like Michael jackson..lol.. Can jeff sing?..NO, Can he MOVE AND DANCE like michael jackson...NO..SO i dont know what your point is!!..lol.. I really DONT. Are their people out their with TALENT yes,..michael jackson made it to where he was BECAUSE OF HIS TALENT
@heyathere1000 its too easy to destroy an argument based on HATE. I hate many things, but i cant put a valid argument against something that i know i cant. as i kid i hated the taste of medicine, but the doctor sorted me out, with knowledge...so Nicleby illness is hate, but then he/she has tried to create an argument built on that hate!..lol..it dont work!
@rocknroll773 That depends on how you view talent. For me Mj is very talented, but not in the way the sheeples see talent. MJ is an excellent mimick, what MJ did best was mimick the greats
, he never invented anything of his own, except the crutch grab. Even MJ said as much. Berry Gordy said, in his memorial speach, that MJ studied the greats and became better. Fact is all his works were works that was already done. He simply copied them and made them modern. That was his real genius.
@Nickleby2 Hi and Happy New Year's! I really don't have a lot of information about Michael and Jermaine's visit to Bahrain. From what I read, I always thought it was Jermaine's idea that Michael go to Bahrain after the trial. And Stephanie Mills was offered the part of Dorothy first. But from the documentary that I saw, the director that quit said, that SM turned the part down because she preferred to do stage and not film.
@rocknroll773 Yes, Jermaine has connections in Africa, Australia and the middle east. jermaine is the one who is always travelling. Even Mj said so. Jermaine played a crucial part in Mj's life. he really loves his family. Katherine said Jermaine was the closest to her and he rings her several times a day to make sure that she is OK. MJ went to Africa and was crowned King Sanu. That was alll Jermaine's doing. The chief was a personal friend of Jermaine's.
@Nickleby2 As a matter of fact, I had no idea that Michael had moved out of the country, until my boyfriend told me that Michael Jackson moved out of the country. I did not believe him and we had a big argument over it. Katherine did say on the Phil Donahue show that Jermaine calls her every day. Michael said in his Moonwalk book that Jermaine was more of an older brother to him than the others were. Because Marlon was too close to his age and the others were much older.
@rocknroll773 Likewise, the Prince of Bharain was a personal friend of Jermaine's. He is often seen performing for royalties in the middle east. It was because of Jermaine's friendship with the Prince that Mj was able to receive $2million dollars from the prince to pay for his trial. Jermaine wanted MJ in Bharain to get away from the madness, but also to record with him. MJ wanted it all. He went behind Jermaine's back and renegotiated a contract that left Jermaine out. Jermaine was furious.
@Nickleby2 Jermaine may have wanted to record with Michael. But why should Michael have wanted to record with Jermaine? He most certainly didn't need to. Why didn't the Prince of Bharain help Jermaine with his financial woes that kept him in child support arrears and child support court? And was that Jermaine's only prospect of recording? If he's doing so well abroad, why can't he pay his debts? He told the courts, he could not afford to pay child support.
@rocknroll773 This is what is sickening about the mentallitiy of some Mj fans and caused this man untold pain. First of all MJ was HUMAN. he had family. People he grew up with all his life. Performing together for the Jacksons wasn't all about making money and becoming famous. it was the way the brothers bonded as FAMILY. So singing with Jermaine would have been sharing something special. When Jermaine left J5 MJ wept bitterly and didn't want to go on stage. Jackie said he was having a breakdawn
@Nickleby2 I believe that I asked before, are you not a Michael Jackson fan, but you are a Jermaine Jackson fan? I don't see you on Jermaine's video though. I agree with the person that said, you must be Jermaine, or someone close to him. Maybe you are his wife trying to defend him. What is it that you really want, for us to stop liking Michael and start liking Jermaine? But, that's not going to happen.
@rocknroll773 I defended MJ at work to colleagues, to friends, and to children age 9 and upwards. I taught kids MJ songs and used his music in dance and drama lessons, even during the time when his music was unpopular, during the allegations. I sat with fans and comb through court documents and defended MJ to my own errand family who though he was strange. I defended his right to plastic surgery, his vitiligo and his sleeping in bed with kids. I was called an MJ fanatic ...
@rocknroll773 I was called a worshipper on fansite. Still a member of a fansite, But, just because I am a fan, I cried tears like everybody else when he died and I couldn't eat for weeks, nothing would pass my mouth. I literally threw up. Family and friends started worrying about my health. I cried for MJ more than I cried for my own family that I loved dearly. However, I was drawn to MJ because I felt he was unfairly treated in the press and by the public. now I see another injustice ...
@rocknroll773 I believe in what is right. I studied MJ over the years, I read many books on him and his family. I read all the books written by his family and himself. I read them more than once. i'm rereading katherine's and latoya's book. I use them as my reference and i compare notes. I listen to old interviews, I do reserch. At least 3 books wrote about Jermaine's and Mj's encounter in Encino. Randy Tarabelli, margaret maldona(sp) and Jermaine Jackson. MJ and Jermaine met at Encino ..
@rocknroll773 oher books talked about the brothers fighting, but Jermaine described the scenes in his book, how they went after each other and how they resolved their issues in the presence of Joe and katherine. I said that Michael wanted to record with jermaine at one ppoint. He wrote the note by hand and it was found among the stuff that was sold at auction. The fansite had a copy of the note where MJ wrote that Jermaine was very ard to get to because he was always travelling abroad.
@rocknroll773 If you check my record you will see that I defend the entire jackson family, very vigorously. I am just out from defending Joe Jackson. The problem I have with Mj is that their are too many myths surrounding him, many was invented by his pr brigade an the people who wanted to exploit him or set him at odds with his family, so that they only could be in control of his life. we saw how they treated him in the media. It was his family that came to his defense, esp jermaine.
@rocknroll773 Many lies have been told about Mj's life, much of it told or encouraged by Mj himself. Berry Gordy was asked about some of them in an interview, and he said they were nothing but MYTHS.many of those myths were about Mj and his father, and others were about his relationship with his siblings. Those lies have caused hard core fans to say nasty things about his family and to abuse the family for no reason. That is why I tell the story, to clean up the lies, which also damage Mj too.
@rocknroll773 This is something that you will never understand, esp if you never had family bonding or good relationship with your family. MJ had always wanted to do an album with Jermaine. Among MJ's things up for auction was a handwritten note MJ wrote about getting together with Jermaine to do an album. The problen he said is how to get hold of Jermaine because he is always busy and travelling. This find was amazing because fans have always believed it was Jermaine who wanted to work with MJ.
@rocknroll773 Another thing. Just because you are more successful than your family, never get it into your head that you don't need them and you are better thean they. If you ever get to that stage you will live to regret it. MJ's fans and the music industry have been putting that in MJ's head for years. When he died they were no where to be seen, except on tv telling lies and betraying him. It was his family pick up the pieces to mend the broken hearts of those orphaned kids he he left behind.
@rocknroll773 poor MJ prefered to live amongs rats and thieves and charlatans who pumped him up on demorol and propofil while they steel his money and made claims on his kids. All his best friends humiliated him after he died. But it was the ones he left behind, Berry Gordy, Smokey Robinson, Glady's Knight, Lionel Richie. All these people he had known from childhood, his roots; They were the ones who gave him DIGNITY in death. AND HIS FAMILY made him royal. Money and fame doesn't make a man.
@rocknroll773 as for Jermaine's financial woes, well none of us know what the real deal is. I hear that his wife is part of the royal family and she has money, so who knows. What I do know is that MJ was helped from losing Neverland and from losing his asset in the Beatles catalogue because of Jermaine's connection to those same people. MJ's prospect of recording was also very dim until he signed for 02 concert which was a direct result of the connections to the people that saved Neverland.
@Nickleby2 Well, we do know that Alejandra Jackson had him in child support court for non payment. And we also know that he was stuck in Africa because they would not renew his passport because of such. When you say, "I hear that his wife is part of the royal family and she has money, so who knows." Isn't that considered hearsay? Regardless, you keep trying to compare apples to oranges, which is not possible.
@rocknroll773 I don't know how much you know about the law but I used to study law at one point. You know if you are a citizen of a country you cannot be stopped from entering your own country just because of child support. in fact The country would most probably be waiting for your arrival, not trying to stop you entering. That is complete nonesense. This came from the same tabloids that reported that MJ was on the run and was wanted for kidnapping of his kids because Debbie didn't agree to him
@Nickleby2 Debbie had Mj up in court for months because he stopped her spousal payment and she wanted her children back. MJ stayed in Ireland until he had assurance that the kids wouldn't be taken away from him. I guess if Debbie had the 2 kids and was struggling with money, as he was at the time, he too would have been up for none payment too. he was up for none payment for hundreds of things.
@rocknroll773 Why did Mj do that to his brother who tried to help him out?!, But that is the pattern of behaviour, he got away with it because of his fame and his family are reluctant to call him out for fear of being called jealous.Stephney Mills was discovered by Jermaine. He brought her to motown and wrote songs for her. Berry Gordy thougt she would be perfect as Dorothy as she was only 15 and had the perfect voice. Diana was 34 and too old, but she was adamant. The film flopped cause of her.
@Nickleby2 Why did Jermaine write and sing that song "Word To the Bad" about his brother Michael? Bottom line, I am unclear of what you are really advocating. Because in all large families, there is sibling rivalry. The Jackson family is no exception. And, at the end of the day the Jackson family all love(d) each other as a family and in a family crisis they unite together to represent their Jackson family. That's what I admire about their family.
@rocknroll773 Jermaine wrote a very nice book called You are not Alone michael. I have read all the Jackson books, but Jermaine's I read 3 times, and am going to read it again, I'ts my favourite. Anyway, Jermaine explaines that he visited MJ in hospital and he shared his secret and his excitement with MJ. The secret was that he had found some great producers who were going to be his Quincy Jones. MJ was excited for him and wished him well. Jermaine waited for 3 months for them to show up ...
@rocknroll773 Time was running out on studio time and there was no producers. Jermaine's manager wrang to tell Jermaine the bad news, The producers were somewhere else working with another artist. That artist was MJ. Of course MJ had no intention of using them, when they found out that they were being used, they left and went back to Jermaine, but they were angry that MJ had used them against Jermaine, so the guys change the lyrics to a song that was already written.
@rocknroll773 So Jermaine was mad with MJ, esp when he refused to answer his phonecalls to talk about the matter. Anyway, both jermaine and MJ met at Encino with the parents present. they shouted at each other and accused each other, and then they laughed and hugged, and promised to do better. unfortunately, fand keep on reliving the past and won't let it rest. Then they blame Jermaine for the song as if Mj didn't do anything wrong, and they never mention MJ's sabotage of jermaine's album.
@OneDharmaYouMovement that was why I stopped responding to you. This response confirmes my thoughts, you are incapable of a constructive conversation. You may do well to stay in school.
LOL. Of all the arguments i have had on youtube, THIS is without a doubt the MOST pointless argument ever. Neither party can tell what their posistion is. One one side your dissming mchael jackson, FOR WHAT EVER REASON, i still dont know why!!..LOL..either your jermaine jackson, or someone very close to him.You totally avoided my question because logically YOU CANT ANSWER it without revealing how stupid YOU ARE.WHY did you stop talking about jeff daniels?..cos i destroyed your logic maybe?
@Nickleby2 You said that Jermaine wanted to record with Micheal. And how do you know that Michael and Jermaine met at Encino with parents present, ....? Were you there also?
@Nickleby2 i dont give a shit about ur conspiracy theories, but one thing; MJ wasnt talented? lmao. he was inspired by james brown etc, but he didnt copy him, his style is totally different. almost all artists are inspired by others, mj no exception.
he revolutionized music videos, and dance. ur favorite jermaine could only dream of Michael's talent
@MJforeverInMyHeart92 This is the problem with you fans. You never saw MJ as a human being with human needs, My conversation is about the HUMAN Being, that was Michael Jackson, not the Production Machine that was the KING of POP. While the KING OF POP was breaking records, The PERSON, Michael Jackson went home to a lonely, loveless life, he dumped the awards in a box and drew up more plans fr another plastic surgery. He slept with white dolls at nights cried often in front of his bewildered kids
@Nickleby2 i think most MJ fans see him as a human being, we love his loving personality etc, but of course love his music as well. many fans are sorry that he didnt have a normal life but what is there to do about it now?
many famous singers have the same problem, the fame becomes too much and they strive for more and more but still feel empty, i think that was the problem MJ had, he never felt satisfied with his achievements. but yea, ur right, success and talent can't buy happinness.
@MJforeverInMyHeart92 No you do not see him as a human being. You see him as a production machine. That is why you think Jermaine is a lesser person than him because he did not sell as much records and is not as talented. The funny thing is MJ is on taping saying that he did all that music because he wanted to be loved.jermaine jackson got married at 19 years old and produced 3 lovely children. He was blissfully happy, and was making soulful music,and discovering and producing many talents.
@Nickleby2 yes i do see him as a human being. i really dont see him as a product machine. i never said jermanie is a lesser person than him, he's far less successfull tho.
@MJforeverInMyHeart92 yet, in your eyes, Jermaine was talentless because he didn't sell as many records as MJ. See, this is the pressure Mj was under. he was afraid if he didn't sell records he wouldn't be loved. That was his torment. he was afraid to live because he was afraid of rejection by his fans. hence he lived a life of solitude, loneliness, and deep sadness. at least jermaine is living his life, and I love his music too, so he is having the best of both worlds.
@MJforeverInMyHeart92 He has a beautiful voice and have written some excellent songs and produced some great albums, including whitney Houston's first number one album.He plays bass like no other and he is also one of the Legends of Motown. people don't hear about jermaine's work because there is no scandal involved
@MJforeverInMyHeart92 Actually, people did hear about his work. Check out old adverts in Australia and you will see Jermaine in the middle of it. jermaine is on Top of the Pops in Britain recieving a birthday cake from a fan. he was the first to have a grammy nomination as best RnB artist. Jermaine was well known and many of his songs were regulars at disco's. That was before MJ broke out with Off The wall. Jermaine;s song When the Rain begins to fall is still a classic in Europe.
@Nickleby2 jermaine had a lot of talent, and i dislike when some MJ fans speak badly about him or anyone else in the family and triy to put them down, because without the rest of the brothers, the jackson 5 wouldnt exist. so i agree that credit should be given to the rest of his brothers, and i have respect for the whole Jakcson family.
@Nickleby2 For instance, Jermaine, on his own (without any of his brothers) was trying to do a remake video of Blame It On The Boogie. Dressing like Michael and all, including the white socks. Which was not becoming of him at all. The fact that Jermaine was not even with the group when they made that song, to me displayed a selfish act of him trying to individually capitalize off of the fame of his brother Michael.
O My God Is that IT> The man just lost a brother and was in mourning. When you mourn for a loved one you do things that you wouldn't normally do. is that what you hold against jermaine? What about the scores of fans who dress like MJ and perform his songs. do you judge them too? Incedently, if you check Jermaines style over the years you will see that MJ did borrow from his big brother many times. In fact MJ borrowed from many stars who went before him. he was NOT original.
@rocknroll773 If Jermaine was so jealous of Mj as you say, Why is it that Mj was the one who always seek to sabotage Jermaines effort. jermaine had no power to stop MJ from doing anything, but MJ had the power. Bob Jones said he personally initiated the sabotage of jermaine work and the rest of the Jackson brothers, on behalf of Michael. I have o evidence of Jermaine lying, but I have plenty of MJ lying.
@Nickleby2 Which to me was blatant disrespect to Michael, the other Jackson brothers, and to Michael's fans. He was doing the whole entire song all by himself with the addition of random college kids as backup dancers. It was something that was sad to see. Evidently, it never came to fruition. I guess because it caused a lot of controversy and received a lot of negative comments. Again, I do not trust anything Jermaine says about Michael.
@rocknroll773 jermaine also negotiated a record deal with the Prince for himself and MJ. By that time, all MJ's friends had deserted him, and his name was too dirty to mention. Jermaine was in Bharain to oversea Mj's arrival to bharain and to make sure he was settled in. as soon as Jermaine's back was turned MJ renegotiated the contract with the prince, forcing him to remove Jermaine from it. This came out in court during the trial. Of couse the trial cost MJ $5 million.
@Nickleby2 I do want to sincerely thank you for taking the time to explain your information for your opinion to me. And I do respect it. But, I don't think MJ turned up unexpectedly in Bahrain, as I'm pretty sure he would not have been accepted. And they wouldn't have offered to pay his legal fees. From what I've read, it was Jermaine that suggested for Michael to go there. Jermaine did care about his brother's well being and didn't like how he was being railroaded here.
If you had read Jermaines most beautiful book, the best of all Jackson books, incedentally, Jermaine tells how he negotiated MJ's escape from USA. He had a plane on standby waiting for Mj. During the trial in London it was revealed that Jermaine's friend, Prince of Bharain deposited $2 million in MJ's nanny's bank account to pay for MJ's bail and trial. The Prince also sent a lawyer to renegotiate MJ's $500mil loan on his catalogue, to prevent a takeover by Sony.
Just because MJ was number one in the world doesn't mean that his life was fulfilled. If he was living a fulfilled life he would not have had the plastic surgeries and the bizzare lifestyle he led. Fact is everything jermaine had MJ had longed for. Happy marriage, Berry Gordy as father, Children, related to Berry Gordy. He tried to have kids with LMP but he walked out on her when she didn't deliver,. I wonder what would have happened if he didn't sabotage Jerms recording career.
@rocknroll773 Something happened between jermaine and Mj in Bharain. The Prince set up a recording studio for Jermaine. When Mj turned up he told the Prince that he should sack Jermaine. The Prince did. This is the power Mj had over people. Trouble is that he sabbotaged his family chances in the music business. we will never know how great his siblings could have been because Mj silenced them. jermaine got a rolls Royce out of the experience while Mj had top pay the prince $5million for breach
Can someone please tell me how the song is called @ 13:57 ??
AppleHeadLoverXxX 4 weeks ago
Michael Jakcson - Money
MrThewildone14 3 weeks ago
@MrThewildone14 thank you.
AppleHeadLoverXxX 3 weeks ago
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AppleHeadLoverXxX 4 weeks ago
Nobody likes being used & feeling abused. That's why he left Bahrain, it's why he distanced himself from thousands of people that came into his life. Sadly Michael couldn't trust almost everyone that entered his life & this in itself must have killed him slowly. All he wanted was to be loved as a human being for who he was; as opposed to what he could do for the other party. It seems that was too much to ask for. I pray he has finally found his peace. He will forever be missed and loved.
su237 4 weeks ago 2
Sorry, let me just interrupt the story here-OK I know this has nothing to do with Michael Jackson, BUT-does the way the Reporter from Rolling Stone Magazine, Claire Hoffman talk drive anyone else as nuts as it does me? Claire honey, OPEN YOUR MOUTH when you talk! Oh my God I hate when people talk like that. Claire, you are on the verge of needed subtitles when you speak! OK, now back to our story.....just needed to get that off my chest....
TownieGirl1974 1 month ago
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TownieGirl1974 1 month ago
THIS IS MEDIA BS AT IT WORSE!!!!! What crap!!!!! Talk about spin!
GOD BLESS MICHAEL JACKSON...blackball this s h i t!
rpesci1 1 month ago
Your logic is flawed and your analysis of mj is not applicable to anyone else, as you continue to ignore the question put to you. Logic is universal should not be customized to suit a particular argument. YOUR LOGIC is flawed because it only applies to Mj. When i put the same argument about other artist, singers, painters, you wont wana know!!..why is that?...I guess picasso had no talent because his abstract line of work was done MANY years before him,,,,,to you IS That logic correct???
OneDharmaYouMovement 1 month ago
if michael jackson was TAUGHT his talent...Then where are the other millions of jacksons, ??...its been a career that has spanned 40years...How many stars have risen to the fame of mj?..ITS YOU THAT CANT ANSWER LOGIC.Do you think when michael jacksons skin disease took hold, that he didnt have the same fear and worry that all people would have? Do you think it would be hard on a persons mind, when your skin is going white, your about to perform infront of 100,000 people.His life was hard.
OneDharmaYouMovement 1 month ago
the first person to paint a sunset scene does he get MORE credit than a person who perfected that scene?. Are you going to say beethoven didnt have talent because someone taught him??...are you going to say einstein was not clever because most of his theories where already out there?...are you going to say isaac newton was not a genuis because Newtons law was first developed in india and not europe?...are you going to say michael jackson didnt have talent because he was TAUGHT be others?.
OneDharmaYouMovement 1 month ago
Having lupus, vitaligo, and second degree burns to your scalp is something that would effect everyone. Did Jermaine have such conditions, other than his stutter?....reason why jermaine did not succed has VERY little to do with michael jackson, IF jermaine had the talent then he would have suceeded but MICHAELs talent, charisma, dance skills put him ahead, look at Janet, you going to say he sabotaged her career, shes on the most succesful female artists. When it comes dwn to it, YOUR ill-logical.
OneDharmaYouMovement 1 month ago
@OneDharmaYouMovement What do you mean Jermaine did not succeed? Do you mean as a dancer? Joe Jackson never trained Jermaine to dance. He was a bass guitarist. Many men took up the guitar and played bass because they were inspired by Jermaine. He was playing great music at the age of 14 as a Motown artist. Only Stevie wonder did that. Jermaine wrote songs for ssome of the greatest artsit in the industry. Stephnie Mills, The deBarge, Whitney Houston. he was a successful producer too.
Nickleby2 1 month ago
NO jermaine cant do what michael jackson did. Joe didnt train michael, michael trained himself. PUT jermaine aside, Does michael jackson have talent?.How many motown artist where their that did not succeed in later projects? Jermaines time was with the jackson five..AND NOTHING ELSE after that...Michael jackson time was after the jackson five. Why dont you say that Michael stopped janets career?..What ever way you WANT to look at it, NO ONE CAN DENY THE TALENT OF MICHAEL JACKSON....esp NOT YOU
OneDharmaYouMovement 1 month ago
@OneDharmaYouMovement you have no idea child and you speak from a place of ignorance. So you think Mj just jumped up and trained himself, and Joe's imput doesn't count, not even MJ ever aluded to that because Michael Jacksons said ON the RECRD that his father was a genius and He taught him everything he knew. you better go find another god to serve cause you are going to be disappointed.
Nickleby2 1 month ago
@Nickleby2 Name me one person that JUST DID IT. No person got up and starting to play an instrument or started singing or dancing without SOME PRACTICE OR TRAINING.. that applies to EVERY PERSON IN THE WORLD. Michael jackson was NO DIFFERENT, had he broken his legs as a young age he might have never got to where he was, had his father not pushed him as hard as he did, he might not have ever got to where he was, But in the end, it was his TALENT that kept him on stage, THAT TALENT WAS NATURAL.
OneDharmaYouMovement 1 month ago
YOUR WAY OF thinking is SO flawed, its amazing that in your attempt to be logical you sound completely ILLOGICAL. On on hand you talk about jermaines talent, i guess his father played no part, then you talk about elvis, i guess all those song writer and producers played no part, then you talk about JEFF, i guess he was not influenced by any other person also. So either your deluded and DONT understand that EVERYONE KNOWS that michael jackson practised trained to achieve where he got to,
OneDharmaYouMovement 1 month ago
in the end YOU CANT ACCEPT THAT jermaine was not as talented as micheel jackson, He did not have the appeal that sells records, he could not have danced, sang on stage at the same time. Could jermaine sing, hell yes, could he write, yes, their are many MILLIONS of jermaines out in the world, BUT michael jackson HAD a unique gift, and that was to do it all, with perfection. Would i want to see jeff daniels dancing?..NO..would i want to see jermaine performing...NO..But everyone WANTED to see MJ!
OneDharmaYouMovement 1 month ago
@OneDharmaYouMovementBut I guess if you don't dance and sing like MJ you have no talent. So when Joe discovered talent in his kids, Jackie, Tito and Jermaine, he was kidding himself. And Berry Gordy was fooling himself when he signed Jermaine on as a solo artist. And the fans who were going wild for Jermaine were fooling themselves. Cause only Michael jackson has talent in the Jackson family. Jermaine stutters, so what. Maybe he is too emotional.
Nickleby2 1 month ago
@Nickleby2 ''guess if you don't dance and sing like MJ you have no talent''..ITS NOT what im saying its what HISTORY SAYS. iTS WHAT millions of people said, its the millions of records sold, its the selling out of world tours over and over again, thats the difference. Why are their one million artist BUT only a few that become world famous???..why is one art considered better than another, why is a picture from picasso considered better than an artist who done the same style before him? TALENT!
OneDharmaYouMovement 1 month ago
@OneDharmaYouMovement There are many great talents in the world that were never discovered and never will be. Money, Power and influence has much to do with success,and a bit of media publicity halps too.Mj would have never made it out of Gary if he didn't have the father with the dream and drive and work ethic to make it happen. MJ grew up in a musical household which help too. His father used to play the blues, so he had music around him so that helped.
Nickleby2 1 month ago
@OneDharmaYouMovement Many MJ fans believe that Off the Wall was a better album than Thriller, but it was Thriller that got the most awards, Well, politics counts. The Music mogul did not want to award Off The Wall, but they wanted to award Thriller. Had nothing to do with best Album. If you tell people enopugh time that something is great, they will start to believe it. It is called propoganda. I have Thriller album, yet I play Jackson albums more often and prfer them. I don't follow crowds.
Nickleby2 1 month ago
@OneDharmaYouMovement Bob marley could scarcely speak Jamaican, let alone English, yet his music was great. But I will not speak to you any further because you do not want a conversation, you came to fight and I don't want to fight with you.
Nickleby2 1 month ago
has anyone ever heard jermaine speak, the guy cant put two sentances without stuttering. You see HAD jermaine taken Michael jacksons place, EVEN THOUGH HE DIDNT HAVE MJS TALENT, but had he been, then today NICKLEBY would be talking about how JERMAINE stopped Michael the more talented brothers from suceeding. ITS LOGICAL that YOU NICCKLEBY would take that POSITION, because right now YOU HAVE NO LOGIC TO YOUR ARGUMENT...... in just one passage what is your ARGUMENT ABOUT?
OneDharmaYouMovement 1 month ago
Did michael jackson ever look back and thinK, i should have done it different..HELL YES. Did he miss the comfort and intimicy of a wife, YES, because we ALL DO AND WILL. Now imagine that this MAN mj, the most famous person on earth, also had a disease that made your skin white!...IF that is not the work of god then i dont know what is!.MJ was tormented...did he hide behind the bathroom door, as he looked at his face, patches of white on his skin, did he WORRY LIKE we all would have done?..well?
OneDharmaYouMovement 1 month ago
Some people never get what they want, as your sitting down commeting on micheal jackson. Did you get want you want out of life??...Did you meet the girl of your dreams?Did you get the job you always wanted?..Did you travel the world?..Did you marry that girl that you always wanted, and have that family?..EVERYONE IN THE WORLD has those dreams, everyone in the world fails to achieve those dreams You get part of it, Michael jackson got part it, But we never get it all. WE all LOOK back and wonder
OneDharmaYouMovement 1 month ago
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''This is the problem with you fans. You never saw MJ as a human being with human needs,'' and then the fool goes to on to parody most tabloids papers..LMAOO. I dont understand what your point is!!...IF you want to talk about good things that are FACT.Then michael was a lonely person, cut off, isolated, but did he carry on, YES. Did he give over 300million to charity yes he did, Did he promote the well being of others, YES he did, Did he use his massive fame, to TRY to do good?..YES. U grow up
OneDharmaYouMovement 1 month ago
NO one can TEACH TALENT..are we saying that Beethoven has less talent that the first person who taught him how to play the piano?....So at what point are you going to admit, that Micahel jacksons talent was far superior than any person you have mentioned. Can jeff go on stage, sing perform infront of 100,000 people, NO. Can jeff do a world tour soley based on his dance skills?...ERR no!..Jeff was a professional dancer.That was his skills, Michael jackson was a NATURAL TALENT. big BIG differnce
OneDharmaYouMovement 1 month ago
Where their painters that had painted similar scenes to Da vinci, Picasso, etc,YES..but why is SOME art worth more than others?...THATS the question YOU need to ask yourself. Why is a picasso more expensive than someone who has done a very similar style?..Do we say the FIRST person who painted a sunset scene, has more talent than someone like Da vinci, who mastered that scene (js an exmaple)...Can you say jeff daniels, has the talent of Michael jackson?..YES OR NO?...answer!
OneDharmaYouMovement 1 month ago
@OneDharmaYouMovement NO!
rocknroll773 1 month ago
how is the song called @ 4:11 & 14:52 ?? pleasee
AppleHeadLoverXxX 1 month ago
like all those people who said he was guilty, when facts came out he was INNocent.I suspect nickleby is of that character.
OneDharmaYouMovement 1 month ago
@OneDharmaYouMovement No actually, I burned candles and put MJ's posters in my bible and vowed not to remove them until MJ was free. I posted in the prayer vigil on fan board and prayed with fans and read scriptures, determined that MJ would be free. I travailed with the family, I took Mj's music to schools and used his music in dance lessons and for relaxation time in classes. I played his music in my classroom so that nextdoor classes got distracted. I was there for MJ through thick and thin.
Nickleby2 1 month ago
@OneDharmaYouMovement I also argued that MJ was wealthy and could never go broke. I thought that his $500 million debt was media lies. however, I had to come face the truth, The fact is that MJ would have never signed that AEG contrcat if he was never desparate. Neverland was up for auction on the steps of the court house where he was tried. Everything on the property was seized. Jermaine rescued Neverland hours before it was due to go to auction, Things were that bad.
Nickleby2 1 month ago
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Michael Jackson did not get the tip toes dance from lame Elvis. MJ got the tip toes dance from the guy on the vid called: "Michael Jackson's Origins of the Moonwalk" at the timing of 0:47.
THAT'S THE " STAND ON THE TIP TOE" DANCE MJ DONE ON MOTOWN 25, ETC.
heyathere1000 1 month ago
How cool! Michael Flatley and Michael Jackson! WOW! those are
quite a couple of Michaels! But which one is really Lord of the dance?!?
I don't know? Flatley is pretty awesome and so is Jackson! To see them
together would be amazing!
ksr622002 1 month ago
Jurors made the correct decision! I went over the entire trial and
researched everthing that was presented in the trial and read all of
the transcripts including all of the witness testimony. THEY HAD NOTHING
ON MJ. EVEN THE WITNESSES FOR THE PROSECUTION ENDED UP
HELPING THE DEFENSE. FUNNY HOW THE TRUTH COMES OUT!
Hat's off to the Jury who did their job and served well. They saw through
all the smoke and mirrors and was able to see the truth!
ksr622002 1 month ago
Of course the blacks let him off the hook for molesting small children. Im sure most didnt even think he was guilty of it. Just like many blacks thought OJ was innocent. How do you expect a culture to think rationally when a mere 500 years ago most of em were still climbing trees?!?!?!
armatageshanks06 2 months ago
@armatageshanks06 you weren't at the trials, you didn't hear the evidence. Those juries made the correct decisions based on the evidence heard. Are you for real, or are you really that hateful and retarded to say such things?
amandaf1 2 months ago
so how did blacks left him off? there were not any blacks on the jury
theceng 1 month ago
omg why does michael need premmission to go and do what he whats from the press media etc why????? its michaels choice !!! :( michael jackson is a beautifull human being !!! :( and a angel
emymummy 2 months ago
the scum of the earth are always here and got their guns drawn
TheFahadandsana 2 months ago
and on to another point. i agree that this report is full of shit and misinformation. for example: at the 2006 world music awards, mj clearly said and commented to the press way before the start that he wont be performing and that he is not here to perform anything other than accept an award and that whole we are the world singing with the children on stage happened spontaneously and call it bad luck the sound was cut off by an accident so you cant make anything out of that but then again
TheFahadandsana 2 months ago
@TheFahadandsana The singing with the children did not happen spontaneously. The management went out scouting for young people to sing with MJ. We knew about the kids singing days before the show. they had rehearsals. the problem was that MJ barely turned up for rehearsals, just as he did for the 2 shows. fact is that MJ turned up for an award, as that was the way tv shows could get him to turn up at their shows. that is why he has so many awards. They create them to entice him to come out.
Nickleby2 1 month ago
and i say this with regret that mj has been doing this a lot but i wont judge him or anything but what i am saying is that the sheik had a case fair and square.
if your a michael jackson fan then the first thing expected from you is respect and love for all races but people like you are sadly populating the earth, scum of this earth
TheFahadandsana 2 months ago
i am a true die hard mj fan, been for 26 years and i am an arab and no we dont kill our wives and its not in our religion nor culture and its a crime and it happens in every country and bad and money grabing people and criminals and racist people come from all over the world so dont make this into an arab issue just because of what happened between mj and that sheik and by the way nobody signs a contract and back away from it
TheFahadandsana 2 months ago
Oh Lord! The Only Thing michael wanted Waz 2 have I Good Night Sleep And 2 Be In Peace In Hes Home
MooshKay 3 months ago
wat they are talking sjit there michael jackson is not a pedo
TheMarinamolnarVEVO 3 months ago
This report is FULL of shit Tom his lawyer has said everyday MJ was in that court room MJ never once was in that court acting up..MJ never said a word nor was he ever misbehaving .Never was MJ acting up.
MRJACKSON19581 3 months ago
michael needed a friendship that was not about business, he needed someone who was just gonna let him relax. he was always performing, always showbusiness. After the courts he was destroyed emotionally. I don't think he had the strength anymore to deliver music or face the public and i dont blame him. hes not a robot hes a human being, a very sensitive one too. but above all michael needed people he cud trust and he always needed a wife.
MimiLovesMJ 3 months ago
Of course he will go to a womens' comfort room, instead of a male to decieve, much easier than being with a male comfort room. He never thought probably he will be noticed. Well, I still don't believe this guy! Anybody can say that!
ThrillDWorldPhil 3 months ago
Michael was supposed to be in Bahrain. However, because of his feud with his brother Jermaine, Jermaine's wife Halima Rashid a distant relative of the Arabian Royal Family suggested that space be kept between them! The weird thing about this was the fact that most of M J's fans forget what Michael did,or worse, they try to justify it! I know when I found out, I was disgusted!
Truthnuff 3 months ago
@Truthnuff what happened ?
MimiLovesMJ 3 months ago
@MimiLovesMJ
Michael had the habit of attempting to curtail the careers of other family members. the one family member he was not successful with was Janet Jackson. Jermaine was safe until he left Motown. Jermaine was lucky enough to gain the friendships of LA and Baby Face famous producers of ballad Soul. They started helping Jermaine carve out a name for himsel.
Truthnuff 3 months ago
@Truthnuff he didn´t want the others to become successfull?Haha!Are you joking???Janet became very successfull and he loved her!What about that,for example?
carrie6358 3 months ago
@carrie6358 This is the same sister he hire John McClaine from under. Every time you get something from Michael Jackson's Estate, you see how much Michael " loved" his sister!
Truthnuff 3 months ago
@carrie6358 Actually,David Guest wrote in his memoirs that Janet hired him to manage her world tour, and he told MJ about it, expecting MJ to be happy for him, MJ made him a better offer. He turned janet down but then MJ got his lawyer to tell David Guest that he wouldn't be using him after all. David Guest went back to janet, but she was offended and told him she no longer needed him. David was bitterly disappointed, MJ had a habit of sabotaging his siblings work. Janet got away from him.
Nickleby2 1 month ago
@carrie6358 Honestly, you need to learn to understand PR. ie Public relations excersice. Mj was te master of Pr manipulations. When he told the public that he vomited in the presents of his father, he sent his father a gift and apologised. MJ did it for public sympathey, it was a PR excersise. he also understand the magic of crying in public. He was teaching his daught er to cry as an act.' Just because you read it in a magazine or see it on a tv screen don't make it factual, actual.' MJ
Nickleby2 1 month ago
When Michael found out, he demanded that the men work for him. When they refused, he promised them creative control of his next work. They dropped Jermaine and went to work for Michael. Michael basically had them as secretaries and refused to even allow them in the studio. They returned to Jermaine and told him what happened. Jermaine penned a song called "Word to the Bad"
Truthnuff 3 months ago
Michael became mad and demanded that Jermaine leave the Encino compound. Jermaine avoided his family with the exception of the 30th anniversary at the request of Randy Jackson. However, after the trial, Michael attempted to visit Jermaine who was visiting Baharain with the Saudi Royal Family of which his current wife is a member. The Baharain Royal family invited him there. Tome Tome ( the supposed uncle of Halima) extended the invitation. Halima was furious.
Truthnuff 3 months ago
@MimiLovesMJ That's when Michael's contract with the sheik fell through mysteriously. That was when he ended up in Dubai. It took a few years before both parties cooled off. Jermaine never returned to the Encino residence. To spite him Alejandra insisted on staying there with the kids. Some say that Michael's co opting of LA and Baby Face ended Jermaine's musical career. Michael later made claims that Tome scared him and had Brother Randy fire him!
Truthnuff 3 months ago
If Jermaine had remained at Motown, or stayed married to Hazel Gordy, none of this would have happened. Michael showed no remorse until he was sued by the sheik.. That's when Jermaine Jackson fans found out what happened. Michael's fans try to defend his actions. However, when Michael hired McClain from Janet, the truth kinda got out! When Bob Jones wrote about this, I thought it was all lies.
Truthnuff 3 months ago
Time made a point of telling folks what the brothers were really doing. Marlon didn't work at Safeway. He is a successful real estate broker. Tito wasn't playing bars. He was touring with Gladys Knight and Chakka Khan. Randy was recording with a little known group. Jermaine " Who had since forgiven his brother a bit was safely ensconced in Halima's home.Time is still suing Michael's estate to re release the article.
Truthnuff 3 months ago
Prior to Michael's death, the brothers planned a documentary showcasing these facts. Michael bribed the staff to kill it! Michael died and suddenly they call the brothers and said that they wanted to release it. Randy saw through it and refused to do it! The other brothers soon soured on it! I wouldn't want to die with that on my head!
Truthnuff 3 months ago
@Truthnuff Evidently, whatever you found out was not the truth. Jermaine and is wife had nothing to do with Michael leaving Bahrain. If Jermaine's wife is a distant relative of that royal family, it must be so far distant, that it is extinct.
rocknroll773 2 months ago
@rocknroll773 Its the truth All right! That is why Michael started acting like he was scared of Thome Tome! Now that's the distant relative that doesn't exist! Another fact that was omitted from the official biographies was the fact that the only reason that the family was upset that he just dropped Jermaine for Michael!
Truthnuff 2 months ago
@rocknroll773 There is more to this story than meets the eyes. MJ turned up in Bahrain quite unexpectedly, then there was talk about him recording music, then he upped and left. Jermaine wrote in his book that he had a contract with the prince to make music, MJ went over his head and signed with the prince, leaving jermaine out of the contract. The Prince testified in court that MJ demanded that Jermaine be dropped from the contract. Obviously something was going on.
Nickleby2 1 month ago
@Nickleby2 I have not read Jermaine's book, nor do I care to, because of the fact that he does not always tell the truth. While he indeed loved his brother, it is clear that he was also envious of him. Because he never made the success that Michael made, even though he was the first to leave the group to go solo. He has proven to be selfish at times. Michael never publically spoke bad about Jermaine, but Jermaine has about Michael. He is a big cry baby. LOL. HAPPY NEW YEAR'S!!!
rocknroll773 1 month ago
@rocknroll773
Why would you say Jermaine was jealous of Michael, Where is your facts? Jermaine was a very successful artist in his own right. His music was international. he was married to the daughter of the most famous record label ever. He was managing this record company with his wife, while his father in law was interested in films. Quincy Jones was a hero of Jermaine's He talked Berry Gordy into bring Quincy to do The Wiz.
Nickleby2 1 month ago
@Nickleby2 Jermaine was not and is not a mega superstar like Michael was. He was struggling in his music career as he himself said on their Jackson Family Dynasty reality show. His marriage to Hazel Gordy was over four decades ago. And it didn't last that long. He's been married at least 2 to 3 times since her. What does Jermaine have other than a bunch of children by different women, that keeps him in child support court?
rocknroll773 1 month ago
@rocknroll773 You don't have to tell me that Jermaine is not as mega as MJ. Nobody was as mega as MJ, so what's your problem. There were many great artist before MJ, many of them are legends, but none of them are as mega as MJ. I hope you do know that being mega and being talented is not the same thing. if it were Madona and David Beckham would not be household names, popularity has nothing to do with talent. it has to do with media attention and ecentricity and scandal. MJ provided all of that.
Nickleby2 1 month ago
@rocknroll773 There are not many megastars like MJ. But nobody knows how far the other brothers would have gone if they didn't have MJ and the recoding industry to fight against. The music industry have been known to physically murder people to stop them from performing. They are real mafia. MJ lived to realise it and he probably lost his life because of it. just because you are successful in the music industry doesn't mean that you lead a successful life, and that is what all human being wants.
Nickleby2 1 month ago
@rocknroll773 MJ's personal life was a most miserable one. He deserted the people that cared for him and really loved him, in exchange for hollywood and fame. he wanted to be at the top all his life, even when he stop producing meaninful music and he was prepared to do anything to stay at the top, so he manipulated the media and his crazy fans to do so. You should see how they cheat on poles to get him to win every competition. They will sit and vote hundreds of time just for him to win a pole.
Nickleby2 1 month ago
@rocknroll773 I believe that Jermaine may be responsible for Mj getting the part in the WIZ which threw him and Quincy together. Jermaine put together 2 of the biggest Motown groups, Switch and The DeBarge. He wrote and produced their records. he duetted with some of the biggest names. Jermaine and his wife were frequently in magazines, far more than michael was. Jermaine Jackson discovered and produced Whitney Houstons first number One album. Everything Jermaine had MJ wanted.
Nickleby2 1 month ago
@Nickleby2 The whole world knows that Diana Ross is responsible for Michael getting his part in the Wiz. Look up Michael's interview on the Countdown show in 1977 when he tells the interviewer how Diana Ross asked him if he wanted to be in it, and how was suprised when she called him and told him that he had the part. Because you do know that Michael and Diana Ross had a thing going back then. And she wanted Michael to be in the Wiz.
rocknroll773 1 month ago
@rocknroll773 The whole world also know that Diana Ross was responsible for discovering The Jackson 5 and that MJ LIVED with Diana Ross. None of that was true. Didn't stop Mj from repeating it though. That was done for PR purpose. Gladis Knight discovered The jacksons, but Berry thought it would be a better PR if Diana discovered them. Fact is Jermaine was executive Producer at motown during the time. He recommended Quincy. Diana had to beg for her part so had very little say in what went on.
Nickleby2 1 month ago
@Nickleby2 Why would Diana Ross have to beg for anything from Berry Gordy, being as though, he is her oldest child's father? I grew up with the Jackson 5. Michael and I are the same age. I know all about their beginning. So, let me understand, because our dialogue has gone on for some time now. Are you expressing to be a Jermaine Jackson fan?
rocknroll773 1 month ago
@Nickleby2 I think you started out trying to make the point that Michael Jackson betrayed his brother Jermaine when Michael was in Bahrain. But why are you on a Michael Jackson video trying to defend Jermaine, when you could be on a Jermaine Jackson video where you would get more support? What good is it doing Jermaine, when you go on his brother Michael's videos giving Michael more views than Jermaine?
rocknroll773 1 month ago
@rocknroll773 I tell the truth on MJ and Jermaine video. too many lies have been told about Jermaine. it needs to stop. fact is MJ's siblings bent over backwards to try and help him, but the same people who did nothing to help him when he was in trouble are the same ones that have lied about the family over the years. MJ was 'childlike', euphomism for immature. he needed his family to protect him, and leeches got in the way and now he is dead because of greed, but the family as usual gets blamed
Nickleby2 1 month ago
@rocknroll773 Everybody knew that Neverland was set to go to auction on the steps on Santa Maria court house where Mj was tried. The media gathered to bark and mock. Jermaine stepped in and saved the day, there was no sale and MJ kept have of Neverland, however, MJ went against Jermaine and made deals with the people Jermaine got to help him. The deal included Thome Thome as manager. Jermaine thought it was a mistake, but MJ would not listen, The deal went belly up, and FANS blame Jermaine.
Nickleby2 1 month ago
@rocknroll773 MJ needed $3 million dollars to post bail. MJ had no money, the family searched round to help. Randy brought in Tom Merseroux, free of charge, Jermaine got his Bahrainian Prince to deposit $2 million dollar in Mj's nanny's account to pay for the trial. The way MJ's fans behave yopu would think that his family never done anything for Mj and they were always on the take. This was always encouraged by MJ's PR machine and some of Mj's fanatic fans.
Nickleby2 1 month ago
@rocknroll773 Jermaine has connections in the middle east. he travelled their all the time. He was working with the Prince when Mj's trial started. MJ needed a place to stay and jermaine organise with the Prince for Mj to stay with him. Of couse once again MJ made contract to do music with the Prince, but ordered the prince to exclude Jermaine. the Prince did that. MJ did not deliver and was sued. It cost MJ $5 million in settlement. MJ's family were alwayscleaning up Mj's mess. I'm just saying.
Nickleby2 1 month ago
Michael jacksons estate (emi, mijic , atv ) owns one out of every three song in the states. Michael was never poor. Poor is going on utube to Xpress yourself.
OneDharmaYouMovement 1 month ago
@OneDharmaYouMovement Actually, MJ was poor. His catalogue was rich but he mortgaged all his assets and was having problems paying back the money. Neverland was up for auction until Jermaine stepped in and got someone to buy the loan from the bank. Encino was up for repossession for the umpteen time. Janet gave up on rescuing it and bought her parents a home in Vagas. Sony and Prince of Bharain and others help MJ keep the catalogue but he owed more than he could pay. $500 mil debt is not fun.
Nickleby2 1 month ago
@Nickleby2 MJ had to put up all his assets for security before AEG would sign him up to do the shows. If he dodn't perform he would lose everything he owned. AEG gave him amn advance and paid his rent and buy his food. He rank Minister Farakhan 3 days before he died to say that he ddidn't think he was going to be able to perform the 50 shows and he was going to lose everything. He was in a frantic state. That was why he couldn't sleep and needed propofil.
Nickleby2 1 month ago
@rocknroll773 Diana was busy begging Berry Gordy to give her the part in Dorothy. Berry wanted to give the role to Stephney Mills, a better singer, who had been playing the part on broadway, another Jermaine Jackson discovery. MJ wanted the part of scarecrow, but he wasn't sure if berry would give him the part. Berry phoned up Jermaine and asked him what he thought. Jermaine told him that MJ would be perfect for the part. Jermaine was Executive Producer and Talent Scout then. That was power.
Nickleby2 1 month ago
@rocknroll773 Mj borrowed from jackie Wilson, Elvis Presley, fred Astaire, James Brown, mausomaso, Charlie Chaplin, and that guy who made the moonwalk first. Apart from grabbing his crutch, nothing Mj did was his own. His genius was taking the works of the greats and put theminto one melting pot and executing them with style and accuracy. he copied from Jermaine too. He said so in his book. Jermaine was his first inspiration. He learned to sing like Jermaine.
Nickleby2 1 month ago
@Nickleby2 Number one, Michaael NEVER borrowed anything from Elvis Presley, except for his daughter, which Michael gave back when he divorced her. You do know that Michael and Jermaine have two distinct singing voices, right? Who said what in what book? While all of the Jacksons have talent, the only one that comes close to Michael's is Janet. ttyl. I am watching Lady GaGa in Times Square. She is awesome! Happy New Year's!!!
rocknroll773 1 month ago
@rocknroll773
Actually, it was Michael who first said he copied jermaine's singing style. MJ used to sit and listen to his brother sing, before he joined the group. They are brothers. Jermaine is older. little brothers often copied from older ones. Why should it be strange that MJ did the same. Listen to jermaine singing before his voice broke, he was brilliant, he still is brillant. Maybe Janet and Mj sing alike, but Janet does not inspire me, I don;t think she is a good singer either.
Nickleby2 1 month ago
@rocknroll773 MJ borrowed from many great artist. Even the great berry Gordy mentioned it in his memorial speach. MJ's genious was not in what HE CREATED, but what he took from great artist and merged into his own act. From Elvis he took the tip toes and the costumes, from James brown he took the footwork and Jackie Wilson he took the dropping to the floor. The white socks and short pants were borrowed too, I forgot his name, Then he never gave credit to the guy who taught him to do the moonwalk
Nickleby2 1 month ago
Those people knew steps, MICHAEL JACKSON DANCED THOSE STEPS...the first person who could paint does not get more credit than a person LIKE DaVINCI..everyone before michael jackson could dance, and many people can moonwalk, but NO ONE MOVES like michael jackson. Hell you could dance the same steps as MJ but NEVER execute them like mike!..Moonwalk was only EVER used in billie jean. Mike has danced in hundreds of videos without moonwalk..ELVIS was nothing compared to true talent like MJ.
OneDharmaYouMovement 1 month ago
@OneDharmaYouMovement You missed the point dear. Nobody is arguing about MJ's talent or expertise. the subject was about Jermaine following MJ. My argument was that even the mighty MJ also was inspired by 'lesser human beinggs', in fact he copied most of them. He didn't invent the wheel, he just fine tune it.
Nickleby2 1 month ago
@Nickleby2 that dont even make sense. Elvis never wrote a song in his life, he never danced, he cant produce, and HE COULD NEVER EVER DANCE ON THE SAME STAGE AS MICHAEL JACKSON...cos he WOULD be shown up!..Take the guy who created moonwalk, CAN he dance better than mike!!.HELL NO...NO one of the peopple you talked of HAS BETTERED mike!...You just need to MJ on stage and you CANT COMPARE HIM TO ANYONE..cos everyone else Might know A STEP, i KNOW the moonwalk BUT it dnt make me a dancer!
OneDharmaYouMovement 1 month ago
pretty sure mj said he took the moonwalk from streetkids, he never claimed it. Like i said moonwalk is SO MINOR in the talents of michael jackson. Its only EVER used on ONE song!..out of hundreds.... Can jermaine SING better than MIKE, he might have had a two or three great tracks dont mean his catalogue comes any where close to mjs, or his vocal ability. I SUGGEST YOU RE-REFERNCE your own references, using people that ARE SO DUBIOUS AS YOUR REFERNCES MAKES ME LAUGH..lol....why not use SNEDDON?
OneDharmaYouMovement 1 month ago
@Nickleby2 in essense what your saying is that Elvis did one thing, but nothing else, as with jermaine, as with others, BUT mike could pull them all off with PERFECT EXECUTION..now THAT IS TALENT!!....Talent is not Elvis with one FOOT SHUFFLE and white mans declare him as a the best dancer in the world..lol... Elvis cant write, dance, produce and just about sing....It would have been amazing to Mike jackson DESTROY ELVIS...
OneDharmaYouMovement 1 month ago
@OneDharmaYouMovement Don't argue with "Nickleby2" he's obviously jealous of mj for whatever reason. If he doesn't like mj why in the heck is he typing in his vids and posting comments. He likes Jermaine for whatever reason, but the whole world likes mj more than Jermaine. And if Jermaine was so good of a singer why didn't he lead the J5 group? especially him being order than mj, don't you think he should of been the lead? he was at first but as soon as mj shown his talent mj took his place, ha.
heyathere1000 1 month ago
@OneDharmaYouMovement "Nickleby2" is arguing with me too about mj on another vid of mj, he's crazy. Let him like Jermaine while most of the world likes mj more, ha ha.
Jackie and Michael look most alike once mj aged from being a child and teenager. MJ and Jackie were the best looking back in 1976-up to now. The only not so cute years of mj were 1972-1975, after that mj was a handsome guy just like Jackie, better looking than Jermaine. Jermaine was cute too but Jackie and mj were more <3.
heyathere1000 1 month ago
@OneDharmaYouMovement Mj hired Jeffrey Daniels to teach him the Moonwalk. Jeffrey Daniels had performed the move on Soul Train earlier and Mj liked it. Daniels went to Encino to teach Mj the move and Mj paid him. Jefrey daniels was hired by Mj to teach him moves for Beat it, and Thriller and many other MJ moves. Why Mj didn't mention Jeffrey Daniels when he was asked about the move, I will never know, but Latoya mentioned him, and so did Daniels. Mj was not a performing monkey, he was human.
Nickleby2 1 month ago
@Nickleby2 ok..Like i said many times before, people can sing, dance, produce, write before michael jackson.lol...Some dancers can do steps, some can do more than a few steps, BUT NO ONE, not Jeff daniels, Not elvis, Not anyone CAN do it like Michael jackson..lol.. Can jeff sing?..NO, Can he MOVE AND DANCE like michael jackson...NO..SO i dont know what your point is!!..lol.. I really DONT. Are their people out their with TALENT yes,..michael jackson made it to where he was BECAUSE OF HIS TALENT
OneDharmaYouMovement 1 month ago
@OneDharmaYouMovement Amen!, tell that hater, you nailed it, ha ha, lol.
heyathere1000 1 month ago
@heyathere1000 its too easy to destroy an argument based on HATE. I hate many things, but i cant put a valid argument against something that i know i cant. as i kid i hated the taste of medicine, but the doctor sorted me out, with knowledge...so Nicleby illness is hate, but then he/she has tried to create an argument built on that hate!..lol..it dont work!
OneDharmaYouMovement 1 month ago
@OneDharmaYouMovement Amen to that, lol.
heyathere1000 1 month ago
@rocknroll773 That depends on how you view talent. For me Mj is very talented, but not in the way the sheeples see talent. MJ is an excellent mimick, what MJ did best was mimick the greats
, he never invented anything of his own, except the crutch grab. Even MJ said as much. Berry Gordy said, in his memorial speach, that MJ studied the greats and became better. Fact is all his works were works that was already done. He simply copied them and made them modern. That was his real genius.
Nickleby2 1 month ago
@Nickleby2 Hi and Happy New Year's! I really don't have a lot of information about Michael and Jermaine's visit to Bahrain. From what I read, I always thought it was Jermaine's idea that Michael go to Bahrain after the trial. And Stephanie Mills was offered the part of Dorothy first. But from the documentary that I saw, the director that quit said, that SM turned the part down because she preferred to do stage and not film.
rocknroll773 1 month ago
@rocknroll773 Yes, Jermaine has connections in Africa, Australia and the middle east. jermaine is the one who is always travelling. Even Mj said so. Jermaine played a crucial part in Mj's life. he really loves his family. Katherine said Jermaine was the closest to her and he rings her several times a day to make sure that she is OK. MJ went to Africa and was crowned King Sanu. That was alll Jermaine's doing. The chief was a personal friend of Jermaine's.
Nickleby2 1 month ago
@Nickleby2 As a matter of fact, I had no idea that Michael had moved out of the country, until my boyfriend told me that Michael Jackson moved out of the country. I did not believe him and we had a big argument over it. Katherine did say on the Phil Donahue show that Jermaine calls her every day. Michael said in his Moonwalk book that Jermaine was more of an older brother to him than the others were. Because Marlon was too close to his age and the others were much older.
rocknroll773 1 month ago
@rocknroll773 Likewise, the Prince of Bharain was a personal friend of Jermaine's. He is often seen performing for royalties in the middle east. It was because of Jermaine's friendship with the Prince that Mj was able to receive $2million dollars from the prince to pay for his trial. Jermaine wanted MJ in Bharain to get away from the madness, but also to record with him. MJ wanted it all. He went behind Jermaine's back and renegotiated a contract that left Jermaine out. Jermaine was furious.
Nickleby2 1 month ago
@Nickleby2 Jermaine may have wanted to record with Michael. But why should Michael have wanted to record with Jermaine? He most certainly didn't need to. Why didn't the Prince of Bharain help Jermaine with his financial woes that kept him in child support arrears and child support court? And was that Jermaine's only prospect of recording? If he's doing so well abroad, why can't he pay his debts? He told the courts, he could not afford to pay child support.
rocknroll773 1 month ago
@rocknroll773 This is what is sickening about the mentallitiy of some Mj fans and caused this man untold pain. First of all MJ was HUMAN. he had family. People he grew up with all his life. Performing together for the Jacksons wasn't all about making money and becoming famous. it was the way the brothers bonded as FAMILY. So singing with Jermaine would have been sharing something special. When Jermaine left J5 MJ wept bitterly and didn't want to go on stage. Jackie said he was having a breakdawn
Nickleby2 1 month ago
@Nickleby2 I believe that I asked before, are you not a Michael Jackson fan, but you are a Jermaine Jackson fan? I don't see you on Jermaine's video though. I agree with the person that said, you must be Jermaine, or someone close to him. Maybe you are his wife trying to defend him. What is it that you really want, for us to stop liking Michael and start liking Jermaine? But, that's not going to happen.
rocknroll773 1 month ago
@rocknroll773 I defended MJ at work to colleagues, to friends, and to children age 9 and upwards. I taught kids MJ songs and used his music in dance and drama lessons, even during the time when his music was unpopular, during the allegations. I sat with fans and comb through court documents and defended MJ to my own errand family who though he was strange. I defended his right to plastic surgery, his vitiligo and his sleeping in bed with kids. I was called an MJ fanatic ...
Nickleby2 1 month ago
@rocknroll773 I was called a worshipper on fansite. Still a member of a fansite, But, just because I am a fan, I cried tears like everybody else when he died and I couldn't eat for weeks, nothing would pass my mouth. I literally threw up. Family and friends started worrying about my health. I cried for MJ more than I cried for my own family that I loved dearly. However, I was drawn to MJ because I felt he was unfairly treated in the press and by the public. now I see another injustice ...
Nickleby2 1 month ago
@rocknroll773 I believe in what is right. I studied MJ over the years, I read many books on him and his family. I read all the books written by his family and himself. I read them more than once. i'm rereading katherine's and latoya's book. I use them as my reference and i compare notes. I listen to old interviews, I do reserch. At least 3 books wrote about Jermaine's and Mj's encounter in Encino. Randy Tarabelli, margaret maldona(sp) and Jermaine Jackson. MJ and Jermaine met at Encino ..
Nickleby2 1 month ago
@rocknroll773 oher books talked about the brothers fighting, but Jermaine described the scenes in his book, how they went after each other and how they resolved their issues in the presence of Joe and katherine. I said that Michael wanted to record with jermaine at one ppoint. He wrote the note by hand and it was found among the stuff that was sold at auction. The fansite had a copy of the note where MJ wrote that Jermaine was very ard to get to because he was always travelling abroad.
Nickleby2 1 month ago
@rocknroll773 If you check my record you will see that I defend the entire jackson family, very vigorously. I am just out from defending Joe Jackson. The problem I have with Mj is that their are too many myths surrounding him, many was invented by his pr brigade an the people who wanted to exploit him or set him at odds with his family, so that they only could be in control of his life. we saw how they treated him in the media. It was his family that came to his defense, esp jermaine.
Nickleby2 1 month ago
@rocknroll773 Many lies have been told about Mj's life, much of it told or encouraged by Mj himself. Berry Gordy was asked about some of them in an interview, and he said they were nothing but MYTHS.many of those myths were about Mj and his father, and others were about his relationship with his siblings. Those lies have caused hard core fans to say nasty things about his family and to abuse the family for no reason. That is why I tell the story, to clean up the lies, which also damage Mj too.
Nickleby2 1 month ago
@rocknroll773 This is something that you will never understand, esp if you never had family bonding or good relationship with your family. MJ had always wanted to do an album with Jermaine. Among MJ's things up for auction was a handwritten note MJ wrote about getting together with Jermaine to do an album. The problen he said is how to get hold of Jermaine because he is always busy and travelling. This find was amazing because fans have always believed it was Jermaine who wanted to work with MJ.
Nickleby2 1 month ago
@rocknroll773 Another thing. Just because you are more successful than your family, never get it into your head that you don't need them and you are better thean they. If you ever get to that stage you will live to regret it. MJ's fans and the music industry have been putting that in MJ's head for years. When he died they were no where to be seen, except on tv telling lies and betraying him. It was his family pick up the pieces to mend the broken hearts of those orphaned kids he he left behind.
Nickleby2 1 month ago
@rocknroll773 poor MJ prefered to live amongs rats and thieves and charlatans who pumped him up on demorol and propofil while they steel his money and made claims on his kids. All his best friends humiliated him after he died. But it was the ones he left behind, Berry Gordy, Smokey Robinson, Glady's Knight, Lionel Richie. All these people he had known from childhood, his roots; They were the ones who gave him DIGNITY in death. AND HIS FAMILY made him royal. Money and fame doesn't make a man.
Nickleby2 1 month ago
@rocknroll773 as for Jermaine's financial woes, well none of us know what the real deal is. I hear that his wife is part of the royal family and she has money, so who knows. What I do know is that MJ was helped from losing Neverland and from losing his asset in the Beatles catalogue because of Jermaine's connection to those same people. MJ's prospect of recording was also very dim until he signed for 02 concert which was a direct result of the connections to the people that saved Neverland.
Nickleby2 1 month ago
@Nickleby2 Well, we do know that Alejandra Jackson had him in child support court for non payment. And we also know that he was stuck in Africa because they would not renew his passport because of such. When you say, "I hear that his wife is part of the royal family and she has money, so who knows." Isn't that considered hearsay? Regardless, you keep trying to compare apples to oranges, which is not possible.
rocknroll773 1 month ago
@rocknroll773 I don't know how much you know about the law but I used to study law at one point. You know if you are a citizen of a country you cannot be stopped from entering your own country just because of child support. in fact The country would most probably be waiting for your arrival, not trying to stop you entering. That is complete nonesense. This came from the same tabloids that reported that MJ was on the run and was wanted for kidnapping of his kids because Debbie didn't agree to him
Nickleby2 1 month ago
@Nickleby2 Debbie had Mj up in court for months because he stopped her spousal payment and she wanted her children back. MJ stayed in Ireland until he had assurance that the kids wouldn't be taken away from him. I guess if Debbie had the 2 kids and was struggling with money, as he was at the time, he too would have been up for none payment too. he was up for none payment for hundreds of things.
Nickleby2 1 month ago
@Nickleby2 lol.
rocknroll773 1 month ago
@rocknroll773 Why did Mj do that to his brother who tried to help him out?!, But that is the pattern of behaviour, he got away with it because of his fame and his family are reluctant to call him out for fear of being called jealous.Stephney Mills was discovered by Jermaine. He brought her to motown and wrote songs for her. Berry Gordy thougt she would be perfect as Dorothy as she was only 15 and had the perfect voice. Diana was 34 and too old, but she was adamant. The film flopped cause of her.
Nickleby2 1 month ago
@Nickleby2 Why did Jermaine write and sing that song "Word To the Bad" about his brother Michael? Bottom line, I am unclear of what you are really advocating. Because in all large families, there is sibling rivalry. The Jackson family is no exception. And, at the end of the day the Jackson family all love(d) each other as a family and in a family crisis they unite together to represent their Jackson family. That's what I admire about their family.
rocknroll773 1 month ago
@rocknroll773 Jermaine wrote a very nice book called You are not Alone michael. I have read all the Jackson books, but Jermaine's I read 3 times, and am going to read it again, I'ts my favourite. Anyway, Jermaine explaines that he visited MJ in hospital and he shared his secret and his excitement with MJ. The secret was that he had found some great producers who were going to be his Quincy Jones. MJ was excited for him and wished him well. Jermaine waited for 3 months for them to show up ...
Nickleby2 1 month ago
@rocknroll773 Time was running out on studio time and there was no producers. Jermaine's manager wrang to tell Jermaine the bad news, The producers were somewhere else working with another artist. That artist was MJ. Of course MJ had no intention of using them, when they found out that they were being used, they left and went back to Jermaine, but they were angry that MJ had used them against Jermaine, so the guys change the lyrics to a song that was already written.
Nickleby2 1 month ago
@rocknroll773 So Jermaine was mad with MJ, esp when he refused to answer his phonecalls to talk about the matter. Anyway, both jermaine and MJ met at Encino with the parents present. they shouted at each other and accused each other, and then they laughed and hugged, and promised to do better. unfortunately, fand keep on reliving the past and won't let it rest. Then they blame Jermaine for the song as if Mj didn't do anything wrong, and they never mention MJ's sabotage of jermaine's album.
Nickleby2 1 month ago
@Nickleby2 THE MOST POINTLESS ARGUMENT ON YOUTUBE!
OneDharmaYouMovement 1 month ago
@OneDharmaYouMovement that was why I stopped responding to you. This response confirmes my thoughts, you are incapable of a constructive conversation. You may do well to stay in school.
Nickleby2 1 month ago
LOL. Of all the arguments i have had on youtube, THIS is without a doubt the MOST pointless argument ever. Neither party can tell what their posistion is. One one side your dissming mchael jackson, FOR WHAT EVER REASON, i still dont know why!!..LOL..either your jermaine jackson, or someone very close to him.You totally avoided my question because logically YOU CANT ANSWER it without revealing how stupid YOU ARE.WHY did you stop talking about jeff daniels?..cos i destroyed your logic maybe?
OneDharmaYouMovement 1 month ago
@Nickleby2 You said that Jermaine wanted to record with Micheal. And how do you know that Michael and Jermaine met at Encino with parents present, ....? Were you there also?
rocknroll773 1 month ago
@Nickleby2 i dont give a shit about ur conspiracy theories, but one thing; MJ wasnt talented? lmao. he was inspired by james brown etc, but he didnt copy him, his style is totally different. almost all artists are inspired by others, mj no exception.
he revolutionized music videos, and dance. ur favorite jermaine could only dream of Michael's talent
MJforeverInMyHeart92 1 month ago
@MJforeverInMyHeart92 This is the problem with you fans. You never saw MJ as a human being with human needs, My conversation is about the HUMAN Being, that was Michael Jackson, not the Production Machine that was the KING of POP. While the KING OF POP was breaking records, The PERSON, Michael Jackson went home to a lonely, loveless life, he dumped the awards in a box and drew up more plans fr another plastic surgery. He slept with white dolls at nights cried often in front of his bewildered kids
Nickleby2 1 month ago
@Nickleby2 of course i see him as a human being, what does that have to do about my comment.
his private life has nothing to do with his artistry and talent tho.
im sad that he never had a normal life with a loving wife etc, but theres nothing i can do about that
MJforeverInMyHeart92 1 month ago
@Nickleby2 i think most MJ fans see him as a human being, we love his loving personality etc, but of course love his music as well. many fans are sorry that he didnt have a normal life but what is there to do about it now?
many famous singers have the same problem, the fame becomes too much and they strive for more and more but still feel empty, i think that was the problem MJ had, he never felt satisfied with his achievements. but yea, ur right, success and talent can't buy happinness.
MJforeverInMyHeart92 1 month ago
@MJforeverInMyHeart92 No you do not see him as a human being. You see him as a production machine. That is why you think Jermaine is a lesser person than him because he did not sell as much records and is not as talented. The funny thing is MJ is on taping saying that he did all that music because he wanted to be loved.jermaine jackson got married at 19 years old and produced 3 lovely children. He was blissfully happy, and was making soulful music,and discovering and producing many talents.
Nickleby2 1 month ago
@Nickleby2 yes i do see him as a human being. i really dont see him as a product machine. i never said jermanie is a lesser person than him, he's far less successfull tho.
MJforeverInMyHeart92 1 month ago
@MJforeverInMyHeart92 yet, in your eyes, Jermaine was talentless because he didn't sell as many records as MJ. See, this is the pressure Mj was under. he was afraid if he didn't sell records he wouldn't be loved. That was his torment. he was afraid to live because he was afraid of rejection by his fans. hence he lived a life of solitude, loneliness, and deep sadness. at least jermaine is living his life, and I love his music too, so he is having the best of both worlds.
Nickleby2 1 month ago
@Nickleby2 jermaine was talented, he has a good voice.
MJforeverInMyHeart92 1 month ago
@MJforeverInMyHeart92 He has a beautiful voice and have written some excellent songs and produced some great albums, including whitney Houston's first number one album.He plays bass like no other and he is also one of the Legends of Motown. people don't hear about jermaine's work because there is no scandal involved
Nickleby2 1 month ago
@Nickleby2 i think people dont hear about his work because he never wanted fame the way michael did, therefore he didnt push so hard to become famous
MJforeverInMyHeart92 1 month ago
@MJforeverInMyHeart92 Actually, people did hear about his work. Check out old adverts in Australia and you will see Jermaine in the middle of it. jermaine is on Top of the Pops in Britain recieving a birthday cake from a fan. he was the first to have a grammy nomination as best RnB artist. Jermaine was well known and many of his songs were regulars at disco's. That was before MJ broke out with Off The wall. Jermaine;s song When the Rain begins to fall is still a classic in Europe.
Nickleby2 1 month ago
@Nickleby2 okay, good for jermaine then. i have nothing against anyone in the jackson family.
MJforeverInMyHeart92 1 month ago
@Nickleby2 jermaine had a lot of talent, and i dislike when some MJ fans speak badly about him or anyone else in the family and triy to put them down, because without the rest of the brothers, the jackson 5 wouldnt exist. so i agree that credit should be given to the rest of his brothers, and i have respect for the whole Jakcson family.
MJforeverInMyHeart92 1 month ago
@MJforeverInMyHeart92
Who cares a shit about record sales when your life is nothing but propofil and tears.
Nickleby2 1 month ago
@Nickleby2 For instance, Jermaine, on his own (without any of his brothers) was trying to do a remake video of Blame It On The Boogie. Dressing like Michael and all, including the white socks. Which was not becoming of him at all. The fact that Jermaine was not even with the group when they made that song, to me displayed a selfish act of him trying to individually capitalize off of the fame of his brother Michael.
rocknroll773 1 month ago
@rocknroll773
O My God Is that IT> The man just lost a brother and was in mourning. When you mourn for a loved one you do things that you wouldn't normally do. is that what you hold against jermaine? What about the scores of fans who dress like MJ and perform his songs. do you judge them too? Incedently, if you check Jermaines style over the years you will see that MJ did borrow from his big brother many times. In fact MJ borrowed from many stars who went before him. he was NOT original.
Nickleby2 1 month ago
@rocknroll773 If Jermaine was so jealous of Mj as you say, Why is it that Mj was the one who always seek to sabotage Jermaines effort. jermaine had no power to stop MJ from doing anything, but MJ had the power. Bob Jones said he personally initiated the sabotage of jermaine work and the rest of the Jackson brothers, on behalf of Michael. I have o evidence of Jermaine lying, but I have plenty of MJ lying.
Nickleby2 1 month ago
@Nickleby2 Which to me was blatant disrespect to Michael, the other Jackson brothers, and to Michael's fans. He was doing the whole entire song all by himself with the addition of random college kids as backup dancers. It was something that was sad to see. Evidently, it never came to fruition. I guess because it caused a lot of controversy and received a lot of negative comments. Again, I do not trust anything Jermaine says about Michael.
rocknroll773 1 month ago
@rocknroll773 jermaine also negotiated a record deal with the Prince for himself and MJ. By that time, all MJ's friends had deserted him, and his name was too dirty to mention. Jermaine was in Bharain to oversea Mj's arrival to bharain and to make sure he was settled in. as soon as Jermaine's back was turned MJ renegotiated the contract with the prince, forcing him to remove Jermaine from it. This came out in court during the trial. Of couse the trial cost MJ $5 million.
Nickleby2 1 month ago
@Nickleby2 I do want to sincerely thank you for taking the time to explain your information for your opinion to me. And I do respect it. But, I don't think MJ turned up unexpectedly in Bahrain, as I'm pretty sure he would not have been accepted. And they wouldn't have offered to pay his legal fees. From what I've read, it was Jermaine that suggested for Michael to go there. Jermaine did care about his brother's well being and didn't like how he was being railroaded here.
rocknroll773 1 month ago
@rocknroll773
If you had read Jermaines most beautiful book, the best of all Jackson books, incedentally, Jermaine tells how he negotiated MJ's escape from USA. He had a plane on standby waiting for Mj. During the trial in London it was revealed that Jermaine's friend, Prince of Bharain deposited $2 million in MJ's nanny's bank account to pay for MJ's bail and trial. The Prince also sent a lawyer to renegotiate MJ's $500mil loan on his catalogue, to prevent a takeover by Sony.
Nickleby2 1 month ago
@Nickleby2
Just because MJ was number one in the world doesn't mean that his life was fulfilled. If he was living a fulfilled life he would not have had the plastic surgeries and the bizzare lifestyle he led. Fact is everything jermaine had MJ had longed for. Happy marriage, Berry Gordy as father, Children, related to Berry Gordy. He tried to have kids with LMP but he walked out on her when she didn't deliver,. I wonder what would have happened if he didn't sabotage Jerms recording career.
Nickleby2 1 month ago
@rocknroll773 Something happened between jermaine and Mj in Bharain. The Prince set up a recording studio for Jermaine. When Mj turned up he told the Prince that he should sack Jermaine. The Prince did. This is the power Mj had over people. Trouble is that he sabbotaged his family chances in the music business. we will never know how great his siblings could have been because Mj silenced them. jermaine got a rolls Royce out of the experience while Mj had top pay the prince $5million for breach
Nickleby2 1 month ago
break a cock off
supernova09100 4 months ago
no wonder he felt so lonely. Everyone wanted him for money or gain.
vanillaaahh1 4 months ago