It's important to show people that you can fail to get an ember every now and again and thats OK, too many "names " seem to get it every time when we all know thats not true and sends the wrong impression, well done for making a video that shows what really happens, other could learn from that!
thanks alot for this imformation it seems really helpful and i will use it when i escaped from my fosterhome and got into the wild. i subscribed :) by the way, how do i get the hole? and do i need the V shape ? or can i just make a little hole and get coal from there?
Your start the hole with the tip of a knife or a sharp stone, and yes you do need the 'V'. The v is where the black dust gathers and gets hotter until is starts to smoulder.
@seanmulhall thank you for taking the time to upload this video of how to make fire with a bow drill. i have to say that due to your unselfishness and willingness to show us all the trials as well as the errors, that i have learned much more from this video about this technique compared to all the other videos. i am yet to get that ember to stay myself, but i am using some plain old timber board for my hearth and drill. will be out to find some willow though i think! thanks again!
I can see why friction fire starting can be frustrating, but this video carefully explains the process. Thank you very much for your unselfishness in sharing your experiences. I see from YouTube that bushcraft is quite popular in Britain. A lot of the really good videos come from your country.
i was trying this in my yard for the first time, Pennsylvania USA. and i thought a small shaft like a flag pole would do, and blocks of 2 by 4. but my virtical stick wasnt thick enough. i was trying with shoe string (that might still work) and my notches werent right. its dark now and have a job interview tomorrow. ill sharpen my knife. and give it another wack tomorrow! ill check in with results thanks mate
Good demonstration with all the frustration that one is to expect. Not the ready made videos where all happens easily and lead you to believe that it is straight foward or a skill only for some. Thank you for your time.
I have a question. Have you ever tried the Egyptian bow drill method? I just started playing with it and it really does seem to help keep hand-made cordage from snapping as much. Still happens but it takes more 'effort.'
I don't know where you are but I'm in western NY, USA and here I can usually find cedar, my personal preference. I have found that if I can find white pine that is dry but not rotted, that works fairly well. You can also try basswood. Just experiment and have a fun day!
I am getting ready to do some more practicing and had a question I hope you can help me with...
I collected some tender/moss and bracken ferns and have them drying in the carport. Will I be able to start them with flint and steel or will I need to make some char cord first?
If you are using a ferrocium rod you should be fine. If you are using the traditional flint and steel you may need something finer. But first try and crush up some of the tinder to make it into a fine dust and fibreous. This will help the cooler sparks to catch. Then treat it the same as I have in my video 'Blowing and ember into flames'. Lichen works well.
Thanks, I think it is ferrocium... I will try both ways to find out. I watched the videos I really like how you go into the hard parts, so many people go through it making it look so dang easy! Esp your bow fire starting stuff!
I too find it tricky getting the flint sparks to land on the tinder of charcloth. But I believe its the same issue that our early ancestors would have come across too. Keep practicing, I am.
Thanks, I will send a response with the video I made as I tried to figure it out... not sure if I made the 40 min of effort show in the video...
I agree, I first heard it while watching John Campbell. You have to practice... If you wait till an emergency you are betting your life on it. So I got out my Urban Disaster Survival kit and started going through it.
@seanmulhall hold the blade still above the charclothe. now slide/draw back the flint keeping the blade still and just above clothe. the sparks will fall right where you want them to everytime. many ppl draw the blade towards the clothe and sparks fly everywhere cause the flint wiggles around.
like usual sean your style of videos are the big difference from you and others , and at least in my case understanding what the heck I am doing wrong
Howdy Sean! The end grain of the spindle is actually harder than the hearth even tho made of the same wood from the same branch. Have you ever tried cotton wood outer bark as a hearth? Works a treat. Have a go some just for chuckles. Root wood works very nicely too. I love going into the bush and doing it all the old way. My people, the Cherokee, teach us from an early age to respect the earth mother and live with her rather than against her. Good to see others are learning too.
My guess is you are blowing too hard. Once the ember is good and strong place it in your tinder bundle and blow really gently on it. Almost like you are breathing on it. You are trying to build up heat and dry out any moisture in the tinder. Gradually blow harder and harder. Dont rush. Only blow really hard when you have lots of smoke coming from the tinder. I'll make a video on how to build a tinder bundle. This may help you also. Good luck.
Another enlightening video, Sean. I appreciate that you let us observe even when things don't go absolutely perfectly. Actually, that's the most instructive part because then we know what mistakes to watch out for. Also, I am one who prefers no music in videos - especially outdoors videos because that way we can hear the sounds of the environment, and in this case, the sounds of the whittling and friction- all which make us feel like we are there with you .
As for mistakes, why don't you think through the thing that you're demonstrating, and at each stage, try to think of EVERY mistake that a person might be likely to make, and then, while you're teaching or demonstrating, simply run off a list of mistakes, and how to avoid them.
That'd work okay, wouldn't it? Just list it all on a piece of paper at home when you're planning the video.
Most of my videos are not planned and certianly not scripted. I think that way they are more real. I dont want to edit them too much either. I will take on board the idea of having a plan written down. Thank you.
I don't mean for you to script it, perhaps I'm not wording it right. I'm just trying to think of it. Well, why don't you carry a notepad or something? And then when you do spontaneously do a video, you can refine it just a little, so it's more helpful. You're doing a great job though, Sean, keep it up.
Just watched your video about... Defecating in the woods. You're a legend, man. Absoloutely legendary. LoL!
Most excellent video my friend! Very informative. I have been trying to use this method for a bit now with no success, I am going to try again with your information!
Sean, this is by far one of your best posts, packed little hints and tips all learnt by trial and error, now I've seen this demostration I'm keen on giving it a go and see what results get using naitive woods up here in the north of Scotland, I also think the black powder is called "punk" its a term I have heard of in the past
Someone else commented that it is called 'Punk'. I have not heard this term before. But from now on I have a name for it thanks to my subscribers. Thank you.
It was twice as long and as this was going to be the last fire I was going to make with this half I decided to cut it in half and burn what was left of this half. The other half can be seen in the video in the blanket.
As I've said before nothing is redundant. there was much to be learned from your demo. thanks for sharing Sean! Look forwards to more vids. Happy Holidays.
Sean, I was impressed with your straight stick, it's the first time I've seen it; I was taught to use the bow, because it helped grab the spindle tighter, but I can see how using the straight stick, with your foot on the other side, can really help with maintaining stability. Most impressive, keep up the good work. Long live North Essex.
Does the diameter of the spindle matter? I've seen this done with smaller spindles also. Great Video. I appreciate the fact you keep it honest. If it doesn't work the first time you try again until it does without editing out the failure. Thank You !!
Although I can get a coal in around 30seconds I have on demonstrations failed to get a coal at all. Its not a preferred method of fire lighting but it is a useful skill to have. As for the spindle size, no the size does not really matter. I find if the spindle is too thin it bends and flexes when I apply pressure. Also the thicker spindle I am able to get tighter in the bow.
I have had many years of failures and was shown this technique in January this year. It was until the summer when I became confident with it. I was told that once you have been shown the technique the rest is your state of mind. Be calm and patient and dont rush. Good luck.
Best vid Ive seen yet on this subject. Good job showing the trial and error that most people go through trying this. For being one of the "most basic" form of fire lighting, There is a big learning curve.
Great Vid Sean!! Missed you. Hey at 1:55 why does it sound like a plane got shot down? LOL ... keep up the great vids! This cleared up a LOT for me. Going to have my son watch it now. Thanks again.
great video. I was about to ask if you ever tried to hand drill, and you answered right at the end. I tried a bit of this today, but I think my wood is wrong. Are the best kind of wood for the fireboard on the bottom softwoods?
It does not matter which way round they are. One is going to wear away quicker that the other. Im using willow, but hazel is another good one. Try a hazel drill into an ivy hearth. Good luck.
I have permission to use 30 acres of farm land with about 6 acres of woodland. So now I make most of my videos there, especially while the shooting season is open.
well if you have a bag.. you can pee in the bag.. then let it sit for a few days after cleaning the fat of the hide.. that will tan a hide if you dont have brains and stuff to tan it just wash and strech it out adn you done..
It's important to show people that you can fail to get an ember every now and again and thats OK, too many "names " seem to get it every time when we all know thats not true and sends the wrong impression, well done for making a video that shows what really happens, other could learn from that!
Buzzardbushcraft 1 month ago
Thanks! This was an awesome instructional video. I appreciate you taking the time to demonstrate all of the pitfalls and problems that can happen.
mrmacbeth1970 5 months ago
ok thank you
97ruben 6 months ago
thanks alot for this imformation it seems really helpful and i will use it when i escaped from my fosterhome and got into the wild. i subscribed :) by the way, how do i get the hole? and do i need the V shape ? or can i just make a little hole and get coal from there?
97ruben 6 months ago
@97ruben
Your start the hole with the tip of a knife or a sharp stone, and yes you do need the 'V'. The v is where the black dust gathers and gets hotter until is starts to smoulder.
seanmulhall 6 months ago
@seanmulhall thank you for taking the time to upload this video of how to make fire with a bow drill. i have to say that due to your unselfishness and willingness to show us all the trials as well as the errors, that i have learned much more from this video about this technique compared to all the other videos. i am yet to get that ember to stay myself, but i am using some plain old timber board for my hearth and drill. will be out to find some willow though i think! thanks again!
dannyjspence 3 months ago
4 peoples got shot.
97ruben 6 months ago
4 people use matches
inagorange 7 months ago 2
I can see why friction fire starting can be frustrating, but this video carefully explains the process. Thank you very much for your unselfishness in sharing your experiences. I see from YouTube that bushcraft is quite popular in Britain. A lot of the really good videos come from your country.
genetrumbo 8 months ago
@genetrumbo
In the UK we have a lot of very talented instructors who are willing to share their knowledge.
seanmulhall 7 months ago
i was trying this in my yard for the first time, Pennsylvania USA. and i thought a small shaft like a flag pole would do, and blocks of 2 by 4. but my virtical stick wasnt thick enough. i was trying with shoe string (that might still work) and my notches werent right. its dark now and have a job interview tomorrow. ill sharpen my knife. and give it another wack tomorrow! ill check in with results thanks mate
Val0n 10 months ago
@Val0n
It just takes practice until you get the technique right. If you know anybody who can talk you through it, it may help you.
seanmulhall 10 months ago
@seanmulhall its been raining for like 3 weeks going on 4 weeks in pennsylvania so i havent been able to do it. -.-
Val0n 10 months ago
@seanmulhall show us the fire saw method plz
MrStogieMonster1988 3 months ago
what an excellent instructional video
starless2112 11 months ago
Great job, very helpful. Its good to see some reality on this subject.
Big T
BigTVideos 1 year ago
Good demonstration with all the frustration that one is to expect. Not the ready made videos where all happens easily and lead you to believe that it is straight foward or a skill only for some. Thank you for your time.
miguelbinha 1 year ago
Thanks Sean. Good tips
Ikefis 1 year ago
Good job, Silver Fox, and as always, thank you!!!
wncranger 1 year ago
buddy awesome voice, you should have your own tv show
theboarman 1 year ago
Thats the best demonstration and explanation ive seen mate , No need to watch anymore . Keep the vids coming
Chapaz21 1 year ago
So thanx to you I finally got my fire built with a fire bow!!! Im pretty excited man, thanx alot!!!
dk0403 1 year ago
Gareth Keenan: The After Years.
phubans 1 year ago
Wow I never realized it would smolder that long.Thanks for this video!
SluggySlugworth 1 year ago
Great video! Thank you for making this video. :)
skyahn83 1 year ago
I have a question. Have you ever tried the Egyptian bow drill method? I just started playing with it and it really does seem to help keep hand-made cordage from snapping as much. Still happens but it takes more 'effort.'
seekertrth 1 year ago
@seekertrth
I saw it once in Scotland but I couldn't get an ember with it. I would like to get hold of another and practice with it more.
seanmulhall 1 year ago
Thank you for this great vid. As always i come away having learned a lot.
One question.
Apart from Willow harth and drill is there any other combinations of woods you find works well?
1916Saoirse1922 2 years ago
Sycamore. Hazel drill into a ivy hearth, but I have not tried this myself.
seanmulhall 2 years ago
I don't know where you are but I'm in western NY, USA and here I can usually find cedar, my personal preference. I have found that if I can find white pine that is dry but not rotted, that works fairly well. You can also try basswood. Just experiment and have a fun day!
seekertrth 1 year ago
I am getting ready to do some more practicing and had a question I hope you can help me with...
I collected some tender/moss and bracken ferns and have them drying in the carport. Will I be able to start them with flint and steel or will I need to make some char cord first?
Thanks and have a nice one!
JimboJitsu 2 years ago
If you are using a ferrocium rod you should be fine. If you are using the traditional flint and steel you may need something finer. But first try and crush up some of the tinder to make it into a fine dust and fibreous. This will help the cooler sparks to catch. Then treat it the same as I have in my video 'Blowing and ember into flames'. Lichen works well.
seanmulhall 2 years ago
Thanks, I think it is ferrocium... I will try both ways to find out. I watched the videos I really like how you go into the hard parts, so many people go through it making it look so dang easy! Esp your bow fire starting stuff!
Thanks a lot for making such cool videos!
JimboJitsu 2 years ago
nicely done, thanks for sharing! I just used flint for the first time... took me 40 min to figure out how to use it and get a fire started...
JimboJitsu 2 years ago
I too find it tricky getting the flint sparks to land on the tinder of charcloth. But I believe its the same issue that our early ancestors would have come across too. Keep practicing, I am.
seanmulhall 2 years ago
Thanks, I will send a response with the video I made as I tried to figure it out... not sure if I made the 40 min of effort show in the video...
I agree, I first heard it while watching John Campbell. You have to practice... If you wait till an emergency you are betting your life on it. So I got out my Urban Disaster Survival kit and started going through it.
JimboJitsu 2 years ago
@seanmulhall hold the blade still above the charclothe. now slide/draw back the flint keeping the blade still and just above clothe. the sparks will fall right where you want them to everytime. many ppl draw the blade towards the clothe and sparks fly everywhere cause the flint wiggles around.
FixedByDoc 1 year ago
Thank you for the information! I have had troubles trying this method. I will try again tomorrow.
Bornacentury2l8 2 years ago
like usual sean your style of videos are the big difference from you and others , and at least in my case understanding what the heck I am doing wrong
stienthor 2 years ago
Howdy Sean! The end grain of the spindle is actually harder than the hearth even tho made of the same wood from the same branch. Have you ever tried cotton wood outer bark as a hearth? Works a treat. Have a go some just for chuckles. Root wood works very nicely too. I love going into the bush and doing it all the old way. My people, the Cherokee, teach us from an early age to respect the earth mother and live with her rather than against her. Good to see others are learning too.
scarz1951 2 years ago
We dont have cotton wood in the UK. I am coming to the states in the summer so will try it then. Thanks.
seanmulhall 2 years ago
Great video man. Is there a gunshot at 1:54
HCDDWarhero 2 years ago
my problem is i can usualy get an ember but it tends to burn thrugh the tinder with out catching flame.
lesrap 2 years ago
My guess is you are blowing too hard. Once the ember is good and strong place it in your tinder bundle and blow really gently on it. Almost like you are breathing on it. You are trying to build up heat and dry out any moisture in the tinder. Gradually blow harder and harder. Dont rush. Only blow really hard when you have lots of smoke coming from the tinder. I'll make a video on how to build a tinder bundle. This may help you also. Good luck.
seanmulhall 2 years ago
Another enlightening video, Sean. I appreciate that you let us observe even when things don't go absolutely perfectly. Actually, that's the most instructive part because then we know what mistakes to watch out for. Also, I am one who prefers no music in videos - especially outdoors videos because that way we can hear the sounds of the environment, and in this case, the sounds of the whittling and friction- all which make us feel like we are there with you .
jdkaram 2 years ago
Thank you for your comment.
seanmulhall 2 years ago
great vids. merry Christmas
PHARRAOH 2 years ago
Thank you very much Sean for the great demo.
5/5
TheRedHawk123 2 years ago
As for mistakes, why don't you think through the thing that you're demonstrating, and at each stage, try to think of EVERY mistake that a person might be likely to make, and then, while you're teaching or demonstrating, simply run off a list of mistakes, and how to avoid them.
That'd work okay, wouldn't it? Just list it all on a piece of paper at home when you're planning the video.
ESAPOWER 2 years ago
I like how he's not a know-it-all jackass, I will say I have learned something after seeing this, even though he is not the best at public speaking
HuhaMaza 2 years ago
Most of my videos are not planned and certianly not scripted. I think that way they are more real. I dont want to edit them too much either. I will take on board the idea of having a plan written down. Thank you.
seanmulhall 2 years ago
I don't mean for you to script it, perhaps I'm not wording it right. I'm just trying to think of it. Well, why don't you carry a notepad or something? And then when you do spontaneously do a video, you can refine it just a little, so it's more helpful. You're doing a great job though, Sean, keep it up.
Just watched your video about... Defecating in the woods. You're a legend, man. Absoloutely legendary. LoL!
ESAPOWER 2 years ago
I do get your point and my intention is to make my videos a little more professional looking yet still keeping it real. Thanks for your comments.
seanmulhall 2 years ago
great vid cant wait to try it
quearbitch 2 years ago
Excellent video Sean! I miss the music intro though :-(
Love the technique, I have yet to try this method but I think I will now.
akhenatten 2 years ago
excellent!
orcaluv 2 years ago
Most excellent video my friend! Very informative. I have been trying to use this method for a bit now with no success, I am going to try again with your information!
CdnJackHunt 2 years ago
Great video Sean, like always!!!
Happy holiday!
findingusernamesux11 2 years ago
Very very thorough Sean. Thank you. Would you do more like this on the basics series you plan please!
Detsteve 2 years ago
No problems. Thanks
seanmulhall 2 years ago
Wow, this was probably the best bow - drill instructional that I've seen. Great job.
I rarely watch vids this long but, it was worth it.
Kamo
Ghostkamo 2 years ago
Thank you Kamo. I really respect your opinion and love the videos you have on your channel. Always looking forward to what else you have to teach.
seanmulhall 2 years ago
Great info!!!
Great vid!!!
riverratbushcraft 2 years ago
Once again awesome job Sean, Thanks
CZBOHUNK 2 years ago
Sean, this is by far one of your best posts, packed little hints and tips all learnt by trial and error, now I've seen this demostration I'm keen on giving it a go and see what results get using naitive woods up here in the north of Scotland, I also think the black powder is called "punk" its a term I have heard of in the past
MrNishi 2 years ago
Someone else commented that it is called 'Punk'. I have not heard this term before. But from now on I have a name for it thanks to my subscribers. Thank you.
seanmulhall 2 years ago
5/5m8
knifeguyeddy 2 years ago
Great demo Sean...nice work! 5/5
bushcraftbartons 2 years ago
great vid sean that fire board is well used you know whats up ★★★★★
godsend420 2 years ago
It was twice as long and as this was going to be the last fire I was going to make with this half I decided to cut it in half and burn what was left of this half. The other half can be seen in the video in the blanket.
seanmulhall 2 years ago
As I've said before nothing is redundant. there was much to be learned from your demo. thanks for sharing Sean! Look forwards to more vids. Happy Holidays.
Nufriend3 2 years ago
Sean, I was impressed with your straight stick, it's the first time I've seen it; I was taught to use the bow, because it helped grab the spindle tighter, but I can see how using the straight stick, with your foot on the other side, can really help with maintaining stability. Most impressive, keep up the good work. Long live North Essex.
wanderinggibbon 2 years ago
Choose a stick about 2 feet in length, and try to use the full length of the bow. This will help increase the heat in the drill. Good luck.
seanmulhall 2 years ago
Good Vid. BTW where I come from the 'black dust ' is called "punk". Its important stuff it needs a name lol.
anthony9thompson 2 years ago
You are so right, and from now on its called 'punk' to me too. I hope no one miss hears what I call it though. LOL.
seanmulhall 2 years ago
good job, 5/5
hobbexp 2 years ago
does the type of wood matter?
mreisma 2 years ago
Not really. Some woods are easier than others. Willow is one of the softest. Hazel is another good one. Try a hazel drill into an ivy hearth.
seanmulhall 2 years ago
Does the diameter of the spindle matter? I've seen this done with smaller spindles also. Great Video. I appreciate the fact you keep it honest. If it doesn't work the first time you try again until it does without editing out the failure. Thank You !!
rmt0523 2 years ago
Although I can get a coal in around 30seconds I have on demonstrations failed to get a coal at all. Its not a preferred method of fire lighting but it is a useful skill to have. As for the spindle size, no the size does not really matter. I find if the spindle is too thin it bends and flexes when I apply pressure. Also the thicker spindle I am able to get tighter in the bow.
seanmulhall 2 years ago
Awesome! Thanks Shawn! Just what i needed cause iv had so many failures making friction fire. I'll remember this next time
JohnsSurvival 2 years ago
I have had many years of failures and was shown this technique in January this year. It was until the summer when I became confident with it. I was told that once you have been shown the technique the rest is your state of mind. Be calm and patient and dont rush. Good luck.
seanmulhall 2 years ago
Great job and I really appreciate the time and effort you put into making your really benefitial videos.
ashthegreat 2 years ago
Thank you.
seanmulhall 2 years ago
Best vid Ive seen yet on this subject. Good job showing the trial and error that most people go through trying this. For being one of the "most basic" form of fire lighting, There is a big learning curve.
KickRocks5000 2 years ago 2
So true.
seanmulhall 2 years ago
thank you, been trying to make a bow drill, i think i know what ive been doing wrong.
lesrap 2 years ago
Hope it works for you. If you are still struggling make a video and post me the link. I'll watch it and try to help you.
seanmulhall 2 years ago
Great Vid Sean!! Missed you. Hey at 1:55 why does it sound like a plane got shot down? LOL ... keep up the great vids! This cleared up a LOT for me. Going to have my son watch it now. Thanks again.
ldmak90 2 years ago
Good vid.
TheXroadr 2 years ago
great video. I was about to ask if you ever tried to hand drill, and you answered right at the end. I tried a bit of this today, but I think my wood is wrong. Are the best kind of wood for the fireboard on the bottom softwoods?
littlegreenwon 2 years ago
It does not matter which way round they are. One is going to wear away quicker that the other. Im using willow, but hazel is another good one. Try a hazel drill into an ivy hearth. Good luck.
seanmulhall 2 years ago
where exactly is it you go out? looks to be neer some of your other vids.
PHARRAOH 2 years ago
I have permission to use 30 acres of farm land with about 6 acres of woodland. So now I make most of my videos there, especially while the shooting season is open.
seanmulhall 2 years ago
i know im off topic but can you tan hide with eggs?
cheeselyman 2 years ago
well if you have a bag.. you can pee in the bag.. then let it sit for a few days after cleaning the fat of the hide.. that will tan a hide if you dont have brains and stuff to tan it just wash and strech it out adn you done..
haha48 2 years ago
Cool, I did not know that about tanning with urine. Thanks for the tip.
seanmulhall 2 years ago
you can use the brain but small animals dont have enough brain to tan there own hide.. some do some dont
haha48 2 years ago
Yes you can tan hides with eggs. Not 100% sure of the techinque but im sure there will be someone on here showing how to.
seanmulhall 2 years ago
Dave and Tam at Bushcraft On Fire have some videos on it.
Detsteve 2 years ago
Doesnt matter how many of these videos there are...always good to have more. Thanks for posting Sean.
5*s
RDPproject 2 years ago