@bat7j helium is used in the gas mix to purge out nitrogen in their blood - nitrogen is what causes the bends as it makes small bubbles in the blood stream wich kills you.
yes OIJJ30 and you can get good dive stories and videos on the net too. try the myscubastory site. type myscubastory into google and its the first one
yes its the gas mix, google it for expanation. one of the things I find amussing is that one of the only things you can make out that the diver says is "oh for fuck sake"
@Ironandtheshizzelz No, they would not explode, you'd have to have somthing like the byford dolphin incident for that to happen. They would have air bubbles form in their veins and they would die, but they would not explode.
Glad they made it. These systems are so comples that you don't often know there's a problem until something goes wrong...usually with fatal results. Personally I'd want to throttle the engineer.
rapid decompression. Just as long as they were able to get back down to depth/pressure within that 4-5 minute period, that whole situation is just a miner glitch.
Dead man's handle has to be on the bilge drain line. That's normally the only thing venting to outside the bell that doesn't go back up to dive control to be able to be controlled by topside as well as in the bell.
H O L Y F U C K! Diver's worst nightmare in a nutshell. Good guys though keeping their cool and saving themselves... otherwise the LSTs could have had a big ass strawberry jam situation to clean up.
The supervisor really helped in that situation, obviously keeping cool,calm and collected. I wonder if the lads at the sharp end shut his mouth valve down when the door seal broke at the end of that Sat? Was there a requirement to decompress immediately after the 4 bar loss of pressure? HSE involved?
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my theory is that he got sooo pised that the hit there nuts sooo hard or he is working with alvin and the chipmunks and gophers or the sea farted HARD
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My theory is that the high pitch voices comes the fact that the air pressure pushes the testicles inwards. This leads to less production of testosteron. Its like a form of castration.
By the time you are preped and working teh North Sea, and the Gulf conditions most of the men have learned of every possibility of hazzards that could happen; specially with those with medical diving tech background. Expect the worst and be prepared for anything, and don't push your tables. The port stories. . .we've heard them all, it might seem exciting but hey, these are actual lives of men and women out there.
It's true if it happens to be an explosive decompression. One of the 5 persons who died in the "Byford Dolphin diving bell accident" had all his internal organs ejected after an explosive decompression.
This is incorrect. The distortion comes from helium in the breathing mix, which is less dense than air. All else being equal, increasing pressure (depth) increases density, lowering pitch, but that effect is trivial compared to the effects of helium.
i have been in enough hyperbaric chambers to tell u the high pitch voice comes from the increases in pressure, the mix has nothign to do with it, u can breath a regular air mixture to 100ft in the chamber and have the high rabbit voices
It's not because of the gas mixture, allthough many people think so. The squeeky voice is actually from the effect the pressure has on the vocal cords/folds. Of course, if you use a gas mixture the effect will be enhanced sligthly. If you decend down to, say 50m, you will notice that you voice becomes more squeeky from 30 and down, even though you're breathing 21/79 oxygen/nitrogen.
it is the gas mixture you muppet, air up to 50 meteres sounds virtually identical to surface. Helium, on the surface will make you squeaky... its the density of the gas that affects your vocal chords. Helium is far less dense than nitrogenl
Sorry, misred one of the previous post(Nitrox - nitrogen). I have never dived myself with nitrox. If there is helium in the gas mixture that will ofcourse make their voices squeaky. But saying that air on 50m sounds vitrually identical to surface, thats not quite right. If you have done any chamberdives to 50m or deeper on air you would notice. Maybe not to the degree of those in the clip, but still.
It's you thats the Muppet, air does affect your vocal cords under pressure if you have done a chamber on air you would know this, Yes helium also affects your vocal cords as well. (posted by a current saturation diver)
yes funny man, done plenty of chamber runs, 60meters the deepest (on air), and there is no way you can confuse compressed air in a chamber with a helium mix.
You said "air up to 50 meteres sounds virtually identical to surface" If you stand by this claim you are indeed a Muppet! sat diver! I think "your sat diving" takes place in your head.What vessel are you working on? and the correct term for the "mix" is oxyhelium"
@subsea777 Oxyhelium would be a type of strange cutting gas.
Heliox is a helium oxygen mixture. Helium is said 1st because it is the majority of the gas. its usually an 80- 10 ratio or maybe 86- 12, somewhere around there. It depends on the depth.
Its the same with Nitrox. Nitrogen is the dominant gas so we say the nitro part 1st.
Oxy-gen, heh, is what we call 51% oxygen and higher in an oxy nitrogen mixture. But thats confusing so we call it all Nitrox.
Well the Bell flood is the main one, it will have 2 valves in line and allow the trunking to fill with water when the bottom door is open, it will also let you reduce the pressure once on bottom to allow you to open the bottom door. When it is opened when the bell is sealed it will allow gas to escape wich is what i believe happened in this video.
Flood up valve, the bell was modified and bell internal check list was not changed. The flood up now has two v.v's, one hull valve and another easier to reach one down the line. This was the one that was knocked as the hull valve was left open.... Sill stuff really.
This was posted on IMCA saftey notices about a yr ago..
I'm offshore at present and for some reason not getting audio on this, but it looks like the bilge-drain valve was kicked and as harrismagnum pointed out if some nutter took out the 'deadmans' handle valve they should be reemed with a hedge-hog, or worse! I'm glad they sorted it - switched-on guys eh?
A quarter turn instead of a dead man? okaaay... the lads opened a valve; shit happens. With three divers in the bell internal valve bell checks had to be completed and the bell run under way. How come the supervisor was unable to make up gas into the bell.
Quarter turn valve? instead of deadmans valve okaaay....
Still doesn't explain how the supervisor was not able to get gas into the bell from sat control. With three divers in the bell that means the bell internal checks are completed and the bell run under way. The lads have knocked a valve, shit happens, wheres the topside backup gas? why is valve control with the bell and not topside?
The only time the topside might have control of the blow down gas is when it is Left open when locked on the system, otherwise the divers control Blowdown and emergency gas. + only the bilge drain has spring loaded valve.
Doesn't happen when I run things. I am a saturation supervisor, the reason they lost 40 metres expalins why topside must have control of bell blowdown and exhaust.
You must be on the only Sat system in the world where the supervisor has control of the blowdown/vent!!! The divers are the one's with control. The only reason the bellman could not blowdown was he had closed the hull valve in his haste to stop the gas loss.
Check my profile. I and a lot of other very experienced sat supervisors routinely take control of blowdown exhaust till the bottom door is open.
The fact that things got so screwed up and the supervisor was powerless to correct the situation just reinforces my veiw of this. I would venture I have a hell of a lot more experience than you ... bath ... thats funny ...
Subsea777, That's what I was thinking. My last bell dive was in the 1980's but the blow-down valve was controlled by the diver. I do think the supervisor should have talked it through more to the diver as this situation can stop one's brain from proper action. The diver sorted it out but it could have gone wrong.
From what I remember, (and it has been a while now) every valve on the outside can be isolated from the inside?
Gotta agree with bfhsatrat here changing a valve on the outside would not affect their ability to shut down on the inside. With soops realising he cant blow them down it indicates its a prob with the main blowdown. What line was the valve on?
My point is the problem was caused by the incorrect valve handle more than the poor diver that knocked it open. If they died I'd be pointing fingers at the guy who swapped out the valve rather than the poor dead diver who knocked it open. If the correct "dead mans" handle was fitted the problem whould have never happend. Just dont like people jumping to conclusions and calling people "tossers" when they dont know the whole story.
Wrong! The valve was behind one of the divers bailout bottles, Newly fitted the divers did'nt know about it.(not on bell Checks)And Only the Bidge Drain has a spring loaded valve fitted P.S they lost 40M.
Why is the voice on the radio sounding like a cartoon character?
bat7j 2 months ago
@bat7j helium is used in the gas mix to purge out nitrogen in their blood - nitrogen is what causes the bends as it makes small bubbles in the blood stream wich kills you.
anikidwolfy 1 month ago
god i was fucking scared! i heard about what happened and i thought this was a video of it
pureintellectual 2 months ago
I like the way the diver had to be told to close the valves but when he started looking he was lost .....BELL CHECKS AWESOME !!! ............
trebeansear 4 months ago
Is there any actual footage of the Byford Dolphin disaster?
catsareweapons 4 months ago
Hey, It's Alvin and the chipmunks at 1:41
geobenne 6 months ago
what does blow yourselves down mean?
LTDANMAN44 8 months ago
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yes OIJJ30 and you can get good dive stories and videos on the net too. try the myscubastory site. type myscubastory into google and its the first one
marinefish321 8 months ago
Had a sale on 1/4 handles did they?
Don't cheap on mens lives.
graceman25 1 year ago
yes its the gas mix, google it for expanation. one of the things I find amussing is that one of the only things you can make out that the diver says is "oh for fuck sake"
they are lucky guys thats for sure
harrismagnum04 1 year ago 4
Just wondering, was the reason why they were talking all high pitched was because of the helium in their gas mixtures ?? :)
demonstrius3 1 year ago
Even if i read the description of this vid, i still don't get it. What is happening? what would have happen if 40 seconds passed, would they explode?
Ironandtheshizzelz 1 year ago
basically yes after passing out and death
harrismagnum04 1 year ago
@Ironandtheshizzelz No, they would not explode, you'd have to have somthing like the byford dolphin incident for that to happen. They would have air bubbles form in their veins and they would die, but they would not explode.
masume21 11 months ago
Glad they made it. These systems are so comples that you don't often know there's a problem until something goes wrong...usually with fatal results. Personally I'd want to throttle the engineer.
lawstsoul 1 year ago
ya this is sometimes happens in bell diving,it is not funny it is really scary when u r in the bell or on the penal for supervisors
bksharma1000 1 year ago
My theory is that the rapid decompresion foreced there testicles inward until they blew and turned the divers into donald duck and alvin
NAUIdragster001 1 year ago
Holy shit that was close, would not be nice to have another byford dolphin incident.
rokkenroll 1 year ago
Thanks goodness everything was sorted out! One ":Byford Dolphin" incident is enough!
SeadogDriftwood 1 year ago
Was alvin the chipmunk with you from 1:18-1:43, I seem to recall hearing him say "oh for fuck sake" haha
YTviewer118 1 year ago
ood shit, i love it!!!
navyryan103 1 year ago
Is that someone on nitrox talking funny?
mitchamus 1 year ago
@mitchamus
Helium And Oxygen
leroymoorejr 1 year ago
they where on the surface not a "minor glitch"
harrismagnum04 1 year ago
rapid decompression. Just as long as they were able to get back down to depth/pressure within that 4-5 minute period, that whole situation is just a miner glitch.
billythekidworks 1 year ago
Dead man's handle has to be on the bilge drain line. That's normally the only thing venting to outside the bell that doesn't go back up to dive control to be able to be controlled by topside as well as in the bell.
PX213 1 year ago
The valve was closed externally on the bell, not by the the divers in the bell. It had been there for 2 weeks, they fukced up and panicked.
shoifo 1 year ago
talk about being under pressure.
Janth 2 years ago 3
Anyone seen this clip, man get stinged by Box Jelly:
watch?v=rQWO8o4kGhQ&feature=related
greatsinailove 2 years ago
H O L Y F U C K! Diver's worst nightmare in a nutshell. Good guys though keeping their cool and saving themselves... otherwise the LSTs could have had a big ass strawberry jam situation to clean up.
ghujkk 2 years ago 7
The supervisor really helped in that situation, obviously keeping cool,calm and collected. I wonder if the lads at the sharp end shut his mouth valve down when the door seal broke at the end of that Sat? Was there a requirement to decompress immediately after the 4 bar loss of pressure? HSE involved?
Professerfuckknows 2 years ago
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my theory is that he got sooo pised that the hit there nuts sooo hard or he is working with alvin and the chipmunks and gophers or the sea farted HARD
bigbullbronco 2 years ago
know what heliox is?
shotfirer1972 2 years ago
been there....any leak i alway put on hat first (onbroad supply) we use to carry hp o2
LEOFALASCO 2 years ago
nothing like getting bent in a bell!! Thank God the Bell tender was thinking. WHAT THE FU@# was the engineer thinking!!! SCARY STUFF!!
murkydiver 2 years ago 3
Fillosofert, the high pitched voice is usually closed by having Helium mixed in to the breathing gas
thatguyfromengland 2 years ago 3
this
glhman222 2 years ago
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My theory is that the high pitch voices comes the fact that the air pressure pushes the testicles inwards. This leads to less production of testosteron. Its like a form of castration.
fillosofert 2 years ago
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holy shit my stomach is on fire i am laufing sooo hard dude that is CLASSICCCC ive benn laughing for like minutes OMG
bigbullbronco 2 years ago
They speak like donald duck.
fillosofert 2 years ago
well said ysh16
lilmissdiverchick 2 years ago
By the time you are preped and working teh North Sea, and the Gulf conditions most of the men have learned of every possibility of hazzards that could happen; specially with those with medical diving tech background. Expect the worst and be prepared for anything, and don't push your tables. The port stories. . .we've heard them all, it might seem exciting but hey, these are actual lives of men and women out there.
TriumVirateABAP 2 years ago
Good work...you did everything correctly.
Thanks~
vital2mi 2 years ago
exploded to death?...that just sounds retarded.
:o)
00MORDRED 3 years ago
It's true if it happens to be an explosive decompression. One of the 5 persons who died in the "Byford Dolphin diving bell accident" had all his internal organs ejected after an explosive decompression.
Source from wiki. Find out more about it -.-
MagePoO 2 years ago 2
hope that guy got fired who ever fucked that up
aussiediver2 3 years ago
He was killed by the diving bell...
kaneetacourt 3 years ago
The dudes in the byford dolphin =O
kaneetacourt 3 years ago
Holy shit man...
Assassinjoe01 3 years ago
holy fuck
jdiver7 3 years ago
its true. search byford dolphin on wikipedia.
CarsonStryker 3 years ago
I looked that up. That sounds like a terrible way to die.
RolodexEnigma 3 years ago
its not the mix of inert gas, its the ata that causes the high pitch voice. try to wistle pass 20 feet.
assbutter 3 years ago
This is incorrect. The distortion comes from helium in the breathing mix, which is less dense than air. All else being equal, increasing pressure (depth) increases density, lowering pitch, but that effect is trivial compared to the effects of helium.
ElizabethAGreene 3 years ago
Nope, take a pressure chamber ride with compressed air... below a pressure of 20 meters or so, your voice becomes distorted.
sniffle44 3 years ago
i have been in enough hyperbaric chambers to tell u the high pitch voice comes from the increases in pressure, the mix has nothign to do with it, u can breath a regular air mixture to 100ft in the chamber and have the high rabbit voices
ysh16 3 years ago 3
It's a combination of both,are you trying to say it has nothing to do with helium???
gavkm27 3 years ago
Why does the guy in the bell sound like Donald Duck? ;p
stardustcreature 3 years ago
lol
YaDad23 3 years ago
It is when the pressure in a place (ie a plane or something) Goes up or down very fast (I think)
Vinitachi 4 years ago
wow at 00:10 they had major ass problems on their hands
videosfromhell 4 years ago
What does he mean by Blowdown?
SH1FT1 4 years ago
Funny helium shit talkers ther. That was dun inna closet.
doctorspankluv 4 years ago
Fuckin creepy, that's why people stop diving and
go in the ROV industry!!!
SaleN22 4 years ago
Yeah, you invest in a good one and it will be with you till the day you die, but thats only on account of them all being death traps.
Stantzs 4 years ago
It's not because of the gas mixture, allthough many people think so. The squeeky voice is actually from the effect the pressure has on the vocal cords/folds. Of course, if you use a gas mixture the effect will be enhanced sligthly. If you decend down to, say 50m, you will notice that you voice becomes more squeeky from 30 and down, even though you're breathing 21/79 oxygen/nitrogen.
jehjehjajamm 4 years ago
Sorry "of course, if you use a gas mixture with *helium* "
Doing a check list each day in a tight-as-h*ll bell can be a crappy task, but they had room and picked the wrong day to skip some of the points ;-)
jehjehjajamm 4 years ago
To an extent BUT if you can breath 21/79 deeper than 100m I will come to see you get your Nobel Prize. Bells are for FAR more than just 50m.
dieselscience 4 years ago
it is the gas mixture you muppet, air up to 50 meteres sounds virtually identical to surface. Helium, on the surface will make you squeaky... its the density of the gas that affects your vocal chords. Helium is far less dense than nitrogenl
divecontrol007 4 years ago
Sorry, misred one of the previous post(Nitrox - nitrogen). I have never dived myself with nitrox. If there is helium in the gas mixture that will ofcourse make their voices squeaky. But saying that air on 50m sounds vitrually identical to surface, thats not quite right. If you have done any chamberdives to 50m or deeper on air you would notice. Maybe not to the degree of those in the clip, but still.
jehjehjajamm 4 years ago
It's you thats the Muppet, air does affect your vocal cords under pressure if you have done a chamber on air you would know this, Yes helium also affects your vocal cords as well. (posted by a current saturation diver)
subsea777 3 years ago
yes funny man, done plenty of chamber runs, 60meters the deepest (on air), and there is no way you can confuse compressed air in a chamber with a helium mix.
and i also got a sat ticket...
divecontrol007 3 years ago
You said "air up to 50 meteres sounds virtually identical to surface" If you stand by this claim you are indeed a Muppet! sat diver! I think "your sat diving" takes place in your head.What vessel are you working on? and the correct term for the "mix" is oxyhelium"
subsea777 3 years ago
calm down you little kids, play nice.
christianloader 3 years ago
I can tell you that air at 300 meters sounds like pixies and little glass bells! :)
What is the standard procedure after this kind of accident?
r0ck3tsm0k3 3 years ago
@r0ck3tsm0k3
Air at 300 metres? Air at 300 metres is lethal. The partial pressure of the oxygen in air is considered toxic at roughly 70 metres from memory.
frostedbuts 1 year ago
@subsea777 Oxyhelium would be a type of strange cutting gas.
Heliox is a helium oxygen mixture. Helium is said 1st because it is the majority of the gas. its usually an 80- 10 ratio or maybe 86- 12, somewhere around there. It depends on the depth.
Its the same with Nitrox. Nitrogen is the dominant gas so we say the nitro part 1st.
Oxy-gen, heh, is what we call 51% oxygen and higher in an oxy nitrogen mixture. But thats confusing so we call it all Nitrox.
graceman25 1 year ago
I have never use a bell for diving, but this is a diver nightmares
ganzoontube 4 years ago 9
they sound soo squeky
ranyjan 4 years ago
No idea what line was venting
harrismagnum04 5 years ago
I'm pretty sure you can hear the bellman say it was the flood up valve. There are only 1 or 2 you can open from the inside to depressurize the bell.
deepworker79 5 years ago
sorry mate, explain what valves the diver can decompress the bell again?
expatinbrazil 5 years ago
Well the Bell flood is the main one, it will have 2 valves in line and allow the trunking to fill with water when the bottom door is open, it will also let you reduce the pressure once on bottom to allow you to open the bottom door. When it is opened when the bell is sealed it will allow gas to escape wich is what i believe happened in this video.
deepworker79 5 years ago
Flood up valve, the bell was modified and bell internal check list was not changed. The flood up now has two v.v's, one hull valve and another easier to reach one down the line. This was the one that was knocked as the hull valve was left open.... Sill stuff really.
This was posted on IMCA saftey notices about a yr ago..
ourboyjack 4 years ago
I'm offshore at present and for some reason not getting audio on this, but it looks like the bilge-drain valve was kicked and as harrismagnum pointed out if some nutter took out the 'deadmans' handle valve they should be reemed with a hedge-hog, or worse! I'm glad they sorted it - switched-on guys eh?
Berkcam 5 years ago
A quarter turn instead of a dead man? okaaay... the lads opened a valve; shit happens. With three divers in the bell internal valve bell checks had to be completed and the bell run under way. How come the supervisor was unable to make up gas into the bell.
Just a question I am curious as well
Speargrass 5 years ago
Quarter turn valve? instead of deadmans valve okaaay....
Still doesn't explain how the supervisor was not able to get gas into the bell from sat control. With three divers in the bell that means the bell internal checks are completed and the bell run under way. The lads have knocked a valve, shit happens, wheres the topside backup gas? why is valve control with the bell and not topside?
Cheers Speargrass AKA Deepsea
Speargrass 5 years ago
The only time the topside might have control of the blow down gas is when it is Left open when locked on the system, otherwise the divers control Blowdown and emergency gas. + only the bilge drain has spring loaded valve.
subsea777 5 years ago
Doesn't happen when I run things. I am a saturation supervisor, the reason they lost 40 metres expalins why topside must have control of bell blowdown and exhaust.
Speargrass 3 years ago
You must be on the only Sat system in the world where the supervisor has control of the blowdown/vent!!! The divers are the one's with control. The only reason the bellman could not blowdown was he had closed the hull valve in his haste to stop the gas loss.
The only supervising you do is in your BATH!
subsea777 3 years ago
My handle is Deepsea at Longstreath dot com
Check my profile. I and a lot of other very experienced sat supervisors routinely take control of blowdown exhaust till the bottom door is open.
The fact that things got so screwed up and the supervisor was powerless to correct the situation just reinforces my veiw of this. I would venture I have a hell of a lot more experience than you ... bath ... thats funny ...
Speargrass 3 years ago
Just checked your profile Subsea777 you have a video "Nice Day for burning" features Travis G and Dave P made by a mate of mine.
Diving is a smal world why don't you start a threrad in Longstreath and see what answers you get
Speargrass 3 years ago
Subsea777, That's what I was thinking. My last bell dive was in the 1980's but the blow-down valve was controlled by the diver. I do think the supervisor should have talked it through more to the diver as this situation can stop one's brain from proper action. The diver sorted it out but it could have gone wrong.
funkyalfonso 2 years ago
Ouch. I was ready for some foamy horror. Sheesh. Glad they got it when they did.
Chuckjagermeister 5 years ago
the squeeky voices make it less scary.
HorrorShow86 5 years ago
What went wrong? Why didn't they shut down earlier themselves? 40 secs to realize you're losing gas is a long time.
paddytoscio 5 years ago
Read the text it explains
They didnt know what happened cause if the correct valve was fitted this cannot happen.
harrismagnum04 5 years ago
From what I remember, (and it has been a while now) every valve on the outside can be isolated from the inside?
Gotta agree with bfhsatrat here changing a valve on the outside would not affect their ability to shut down on the inside. With soops realising he cant blow them down it indicates its a prob with the main blowdown. What line was the valve on?
paddytoscio 5 years ago
The valve was in the bell at foot level.
My point is the problem was caused by the incorrect valve handle more than the poor diver that knocked it open. If they died I'd be pointing fingers at the guy who swapped out the valve rather than the poor dead diver who knocked it open. If the correct "dead mans" handle was fitted the problem whould have never happend. Just dont like people jumping to conclusions and calling people "tossers" when they dont know the whole story.
harrismagnum04 5 years ago 4
Wrong! The valve was behind one of the divers bailout bottles, Newly fitted the divers did'nt know about it.(not on bell Checks)And Only the Bidge Drain has a spring loaded valve fitted P.S they lost 40M.
subsea777 5 years ago