@ghhgyiufff - agree with you mate ... and half of the gimmicky stuff in a GTR is made by the i guess Forza motor sports ... or sme game company ... so yep its all play stationay .... bt tht does nt tke away the fact tht GTR is a great great effort ... bt i will still tke a M3 .. class is wht sets it apart .. :D
@rahulgosh1 If you drive the GTR, you wont even take a second glance at a cute little m3 hahaaa, totally different class. Nothing BMW has ever made can come close to what a GTR is.
@ghhgyiufff I've driven both of them, the M3's interior isn't badly made but it looks plain boring especially with that tiny little red radio dial screen. On the other hand the GTR's looks a lot nicer! Oh and quality wise the GTR has NO plastics and is made out of much better material then the M3, dont know where you get that idea of plastic from.. its not a cheap car.
@Bojog19 yeah i know thats what hes saying, and hes out to lunch, read some of the other comments, oh and by the way, shut the fuck up! i never asked you.
@GrifterS14 yeah i know what the fuck hes saying you fucking piece of GARBAGE!! but hes fucking useless and so are you, because no fucking NISSAN has an interior that touches a BMW... the $90,000 60,000 went to the motor.. so shut your dumbass trap! youve obviously never seen the inside of a BMW ... prob because youve got all the class of the chincy interior NISSAN... now go kill yourself you fucking MORON.
I want an Alfa Romeo Brera to be rear wheel drive i want it to be as reliable as the M3 i want an proper and i mean proper Alfa romeo engine in it, not like 250 or 280 Hp but 350 or 400 hp I want it to handle like M3 I want proper manual gearbox in it. does anyone else has ever wished for a recepie like this? please speak up
Lexus started coping everything from BMW and Mercedes, now they are pretending to be something "special", but nothing more than Luxury Wannabes, trying to be a competition for the real deal in Premium vehicles, BUT THEY ARE NOT!
This is a clear proof.
I will take a BMW M3 anyday! Lexus would never be something to consider...
If I am going to be in a dilema about what car of the same type to choose from, I will be dealing with M3, RS3 or C Class AMG.
germans and japanese are the best at building cars, i've driven 4 jap cars, and have my first bmw e90 just over a year now. In terms of comfort and build quality i'd have to say the germans are much better at this. I really think of TOYOTA every time i see LEXUS, so i think why pay so much for a TOYOTA? i had my eye on the iS250 at one stage, spoke to someone driving it, heard is a comfortable drive to cruise in, but handling was quite poor, steering not very responsive, just like all toyotas!
Well, Toyota is the largest car manufacturer in the world, so the germans can go hang theirself. Wolkswagen have like 5 brands and are the second largest, Toyota has 2. Thats because Toyota and Lexus have one of the best quality in the world and a great resale value. Jeremy doesnt understand a Lexus, he doesnt deserve to sit in a IS-F. The IS-F is the best combination of luxury and sport. Well, i dont say BMW is a bad manufacturer, they have some great technology, but Jeremy talks to much.
@bmw4lfe that's awkward cause im pretty sure the Japanese didn't get it wrong the with GT-R or Lexus LFA.. They're faster than any production BMW, Mercedes, Ferrari, Lamborghini or ANY mainstream European manufacturer.
@andreakatickles1 NO, It is not really faster.....it has just a speed limiter on a higher number....but if you remove the limiter in the M3, it beats the Lexus with ease!
Listen to Jeremy: Lexus has the more torque, yes, in paper, because they are at the high revs...that is USELESS, the torque is not available when is needed..."it does many things brilliantly, but the M3 does everything brilliantly"
BTW, handling is very important....ISF is like a crazy horse... nothing refined.
@cmanclan101 I understand that but when do you stop financing? Boat, cars, clothes soon you have a huge credit card payment and then boom the economy tanks and you lose your job. Plan for the future not how you look in a car today...
@bendadickarnold exactly. i promised myself when i turned 16 that the only reason i would ever buy a new car is if i make more than 3x the sticker price annually or if im able to pay cash on the spot.
dont worry, it wont happen for any car i would be interested in. buying a low mileage and lightly used car thats 5 - 10 years old is very easy in this day and age. buying new just doesn't make sense.
In my opinion Lexus have done very well. It's a beautiful car. The 8 speed is better for fuel economy and top speed. Many cars have fake exhaust tips: Audi R8, Ferrari F430, Lamborghini LP640 and even the Veyron. The M3 is a good car, and Lexus has done very well to compete.
"the car for the family man..." that is until the wife nags and says "no, you can´t have that, we HAVE to buy a minivan, because it is functional"...the one bit women can´t understand yet is the sheer joy men get from a car that is exciting to drive, until they are committed to the minivan, the ultimate vehicular castration for family men, LOL...
like I said bmw has been making the m series for how long now, but from experience and from a friend of mine working at bmw, they have alot of issues, u cant beat on them like a japanese car is all im saying. Nothing lasts as long as a honda, toyota, nissan, and so on. My buddy has a civic with a k20 in it, he'd beat the hell out of it, and he got it with around 40k miles, hes got over 110k now, and runs better then it did at 40k, which is mostly what u expect out of a japanaese car.
The M3 is the obvious choice, BMWs are simply more refined and all around better cars. Plus I'd rather have a german car than a fancy toyota any day, especially when this one is a $1000 cheaper
Lol u you just can't come out of nowhere and build a car that will defeat a legend, m3 dominated in the past, in the present and is always gonna be dominant over all the cars in it's class. ------- period and theres nothing else to it
@Gobber59, u can laugh all u want, my buddy works at bmw and they get these cars in on a daily basis. This is lexus's first v8 sports lexus, that is basically comparable to the m3. They have been making this car for how many years now, and still seem to run into the same electrical/transmission problems. If u try to even compare lexus/toyota to bmw in terms of quality and reliability ur are pure nuts. Germans may kno how to build em, but the japanese kno how to keep em 2gether.
@MrBruce1337 you dont know what you are talking about. thats absolute shite what your saying. lexus is a luxury car not a sports car. this is there 2nd or possibly 3rd attempt at being a sports car and its not a bad attempt at all but come on man the m3 has racing heritage that goes back decades. its clearly a true sports car.
Everyone keeps forgettin something, the bmw M3 his a Twin turbo, anyone noticed that ? get a twin turbo on that ISF And then japan can teach germany a story.
believe me people this shit aint true the isf is faster than the m3 sedan maybe the coupe is faster than it but the sedan does'n stand a chance this guys need to stop lying to people
im a american car guy especially corvettes, but the m3 is a bad ass car, the lexus isf is no where near a contender!! however id rather have a cts-v than both!!!!!
you don't hear german companies like porsche saying ohhh we've beat a nissan gtr killer. Shows the Japs have something to prove and there for are not as good.
I believe they got the suspension dialed down a lot better on the newer ISF. It was able to equal the M3's lap time on a certain track. It really isn't a secret to make a car handle, and ride nicely. BMW just spends lots of time working its suspension out to get the right combo. The early ISF was tuned on the FUJI race track, the M3 was tuned on Nurburgring. Obviously the Nurburgring is the better track to get the cars suspension dialed down right for the real world.
@andreakatickles1 Lmao first off it looks like a crushed soda can, and nothing in the m3's class handles better, way faster? lmao no you saw the drag race the m3 revs to 8,300 and beat the ISF.
and to everyone that was wondering, if you dont mind 2 doors and a lower price, go buy a new boss. even with its "old rearend" it still out performs both cars on the track lol.
I imagine if I bought an isf I would love it to death and defend it against all criticism with the numbers and such. But if an m3 ever pulled up next to me, id feel like I bought the wrong one. Dunno why, I just know I would.
Jeremy Clarkson is a biased Brit, if it's either American or Japanese, 80% of the time he'll dislike it or like it but speak of it in a condescending tone.
Keep in mind all, that Lexus have revised this car's suspension and chassis to make it better. It's just as good as the M3 SEDAN now and just as fast.
@ttblj hey pussy I currently own an ISF bitch and this is my tenth Lexus and what wrong with Hyundai? I'd rather buy it over a fucked up square old mans car looking boring BMW . Pussy I gave many many videos on YouTube of all my beautiful cars. Go suck out u mada bloodclaat stinking pussy.
@MrInCarCam BMW interior are cheap looking and the doors are light weight just like a microwave plastic door. Lexus is plush and have the best interior there is. I don't even want to get into the fuck up old mans design BMW exterior, they should call the BMWs spongebobquarepants, they look like fucking box on wheels. Fuck u too u lesbian.
@b4d69 Be honest, do you really think Lexus would claim they've made a car that would 'own' an M3. Of course not. Any one would know thats just Jeremy's biased way of explaining things when he's presented with a Japanese Car. Lexus actually had said their new IS-F is a good competitor for the M3, not a so called 'M3 Killer' or a car that could beat an M3 because Lexus knows that BMW's are usually some of the best for making sports saloons so why would they make such a claim anyway...
Researches shows that not only the ISF have better value than its competitors but that it is much faster from 0-60 and in a quarter mile than even the latest BMW M3. Top Gear I'd very bias when it comes to japanese cars. I wonder why is it that almost all YouTube videos with the ISF Vs BMW m3 the ISF always winning???????????
Europe builds machinery. I don't know about the steel industry there. Remember WWl and WWll Were started by the European Powers. Involved was America. The strong rules the World.
@tnguyen318 what the h*** are you talking about wierdo. didnt you say u liked the is and no ur all sukcing europe dick. 1. europe is weak compared to america 2. when do you talk about stupid contries when i was talking about cars stupid.
@CronusandRhea the truth is that Germans are and were always the leaders of car production, while Japanese' always been only followers. Germans spent/d billions on RnD and the fundamental studies in all the spheres of production cycle and so they do in assembling process. the result is that all BWSs and Mercs are perfect in ALL the aspects, while Japanese might be perfect in only SOME
@VigenToT plus, the most important thing, is that Japanese have never been successful in their marketing planning, but they simply tried to hit Germans only by engineering figures: say, if Germans produce 5 step gearbox, they go for 6, or if Germans had 100 Hp, they would go for 101Hp and so on. But this doesn’t really pay off much, because what really attract the customer are not the engineering figures but the driving experience, safety, comfort and status.
@VigenToT I believe the two countries build their cars for different performance reasons. German cars and Italian cars are for top speed, Japanese have a balance of speed and agility, while English for high speed and comfort. American cars for the quarter mile.
@CronusandRhea German cars are very comfortable, agile and damn fast at the same time. Italian cars are a designer's wet dream... But not allways this comfortable. Still agile and insanely fast. Japanese cars well that's a different story. You can only have a road going rally car which has no comfort left or you can have a car which is comfortable but not fun and not fast. English cars are super light adrenaline shots which are only for some adrenaline junkies who only care about agility. :)
@klramon I don't know which Japanese cars you've driven, I bet you stereotype all JDM or Japanes sports cars fans as the FF types, anyways I'd so take an RX-7 or S2000 over an english TVR or german BMW Z4 ROADSTER. I don't know where you live, maybe the UK type of cars are dominante.
@CronusandRhea it is your opinion. I am from Germany. I drove the subaru impreza wrx(one which was a proper rally monster), mitsubishi evo 3, rx7, skyline GT-S(r33), civic type-R (european one), couple of lexuses, camry, avensis, accord and nissan 200sx. I think this uncompromisingness of this cars is why this cars are so good. I mean the sport ones. You get in and feel that this car was made for only one purpose. To go as fast as hell or to put huge smile on your face by going sideways.
@klramon I have only driven a few Japanese sports cars, you are very fortunate for being able to sample such a variety of automobiles. I actually got to drive the Audi from the Transporter movie which was super fun and I drove a Savannah RX-7 FC, which I was like $500 away from getting before the owner sold it for more right under me! Anyway, you are probably right, since I have not driven many cars I just favor Japanese models, but not civic or integras, those are just a joke. Believe me
@klramon I have only driven a few Japanese sports cars, you are very fortunate for being able to sample such a variety of automobiles. I actually got to drive the Audi from the Transporter movie which was super fun and I drove a Savannah RX-7 FC, which I was like $500 away from getting before the owner sold it for more right under me! Anyway, you are probably right, since I have not driven many cars I just favor Japanese models, but not civic or integras, those are just a joke. Believe me I'd .
@CronusandRhea Because my friends are car freaks. :) E.g. one of my friends imported accord euro r from Japan. First thing he did... Called me and drove to the nürburgring. I think he could buy an M5 for the money he paid for this honda. But still it is really hardcore! By the way. This civic fn2 I drove, I liked it. Ok it is uncomfortable but it feels a lot sharper than a golf gti. I know honda has one of the worst reputations because of ricers but it doesn't mean that they build bad cars.
@Jamzkangster What do you think I told him? It is dumb but it is his money and he loves honda. That's it. I would buy M5 as well because RWD + 5L V8 is way better than a FWD 2.2L vtech.
@CronusandRhea if you want friends like mine (completely bonkers) go to a race track and talk to the drivers. It is how it all started for me on the nürburgring about 6 years ago.
RX-7 is really tail happy if you will buy it prepare to buy new tires every 100 miles. Why? Because you won't resist it to not to throw this car in a slide.
Ah Audi A8... One of the cars I haven't driven yet. Guess what I've got! ;)
@klramon When I get my dream car I will take it to Laguna Seca on track days for regular people with fast cars. I have about a dozen affordable cars I'd like to buy and tune. Who knows when the economy gets better here I'll be able to afford a trip to your country and see what your scene is like.
@CronusandRhea That makes no sense because the Germans build every type of car in the world.... Not just " TOP SPEED " although clearly they dominate in every category... top speed 0-60 1/4 mile Nürburgring times comfort looks efficiency the only thing they dont dominate is cheap price shit, because Germans make high quality, not cheap plastic. Get back in the slow lane and stfu Lexus bro.
@Howie262 Bullshit. I know for a fact a R34 Skyline is much fast than say bmw gtr or audi A8, whatever. Also, our classic muscle cars will eat your girly/old people luxry sports cars in the 1/4 mile any day, I'd be willing to put money on it! I know german cars are not made out of all metals or even carbine fiber, german made cars are over priced as well. I rather drop 20k on an 18 year old rx-7 that is better balanced and quick than a 50k luxry sports car that can do 200mph in comfort/ heavy.
@Howie262 Porshe Turbo S would not beat a Dodge Charger in the 1/4, It would beat a muscle car in the long run though since that is what european cars are made for. Lastly, I'd challenge your european car against my Jap car on the touge anyday. No need to keep debating though most of these cars are for people with good jobs and the US is not full of jobs currently. Enjoy whatever fun car you are fortunate enough to own. I like the french Citreon brand rally car and the British TVR.
@CronusandRhea plus, the most important thing, is that Japanese have never been successful in their marketing planning, but they simply tried to hit Germans only by engineering figures: say, if Germans produce 5 step gearbox, they go for 6, or if Germans had 100 Hp, they would go for 101Hp and so on. But this doesn’t really pay off much, because what really attract the customer are not the engineering figures but the driving experience, safety, comfort and status.
@VigenToT i think you are mistaken, engineering figures, japanese cars most usually have less horsepower than their german competition from the factory. also why would you say that the japanese never been successful in marketing planning?.. japanese products are very successful. as far as this comparison goes i prefer the m3 over the isf. but i prefer the s2000,wrx sti, and nissan gtr over the m3. m3 is pricey, customers generally are attracted to value. not everyone can afford a mercedes benz.
@nightrider2k6 Yeah, you are right, Japanese cars r for losers, and Merc and BMW for winners. Yeah, of course not everyone can (and shall not) afford them.
@nightrider2k6 Because, at the end of the day your driving around in cheap Japanese car, don't get me wrong where would we be without a cheap Japanese car? I daily drive a 09 Civic SI, love it but the quality just isn't like BMW quality, I drive my 98' M3 sedan on the weekends and its just built to last, the plastic in the car is 13 years old and still holding up, the leathers a bit worn but I can't imagine what my SI would look like in 13 years, all I know is not as good as my M3.
@nightrider2k6 True, but it all depends on what you are looking for in a car. If you want rally performance made cars with good, but not great interior, go for either the WRX STI or Nissan GTR. Now when you said the Honda S2000, no argument there if your looking for a convertible sports car. BMW M3 on the other hand was always seemed to have been designing cars meant for business men and women who like to look right while driving, but still get that sports car performance.
First generation ISF keeping up with fifth generation M3 is very impressive. I am sure third or forth generation ISF will overtake M3.
MrDefq 5 months ago
@MrDefq good one........You think the M3 won't evolve??? they will just wait for the lexus to be better than the bimmer
raetzky 5 months ago
///M FTW!
TheThomasf99 5 months ago
u cant compare BMW with a LEXUS !
its like comparing Mac with Windows !
huge gap difference on luxury power handling and prestige
xXxXRGXxXx 5 months ago
Just not fair, anything against the M is just not fair.
MASTERNCS 5 months ago
@MASTERNCS because bmw and mercedes has thier own class !
when they make a car THEY know how to make one :)
xXxXRGXxXx 5 months ago
///M ... wait for it ... POWEERRRRRR!!!
shobin05 5 months ago 6
@trinidee247 Why? the M3's boring interior really isnt better then the GTR.. it comes with cloth seats lmfaoo and no navi
gevosti 6 months ago
@gevosti are you high?? Have you been in an m3 or GTR? The M3 is leather and aluminum, GTR is plastic
ghhgyiufff 5 months ago
@ghhgyiufff - agree with you mate ... and half of the gimmicky stuff in a GTR is made by the i guess Forza motor sports ... or sme game company ... so yep its all play stationay .... bt tht does nt tke away the fact tht GTR is a great great effort ... bt i will still tke a M3 .. class is wht sets it apart .. :D
rahulgosh1 5 months ago
@rahulgosh1 If you drive the GTR, you wont even take a second glance at a cute little m3 hahaaa, totally different class. Nothing BMW has ever made can come close to what a GTR is.
gevosti 5 months ago
@ghhgyiufff I've driven both of them, the M3's interior isn't badly made but it looks plain boring especially with that tiny little red radio dial screen. On the other hand the GTR's looks a lot nicer! Oh and quality wise the GTR has NO plastics and is made out of much better material then the M3, dont know where you get that idea of plastic from.. its not a cheap car.
gevosti 5 months ago
@gevosti so your saying a "nissan" has better quality interior than a bmw?... I HOPE YOU KNOW YOURE ABOUT THE ONLY PERSON ON EARTH THAT WOULD...
mainlymusicman 5 months ago
@mainlymusicman No he's saying the GTR is better then the M3... get off BMW's dick
Bojog19 5 months ago
@Bojog19 yeah i know thats what hes saying, and hes out to lunch, read some of the other comments, oh and by the way, shut the fuck up! i never asked you.
mainlymusicman 5 months ago
@mainlymusicman no, what he's saying a $90,000 Nissan GT-R has better interior than the $60,000 M3, dumb ass. Why? Because it cost fucking $90,000.
GrifterS14 5 months ago
@GrifterS14 yeah i know what the fuck hes saying you fucking piece of GARBAGE!! but hes fucking useless and so are you, because no fucking NISSAN has an interior that touches a BMW... the $90,000 60,000 went to the motor.. so shut your dumbass trap! youve obviously never seen the inside of a BMW ... prob because youve got all the class of the chincy interior NISSAN... now go kill yourself you fucking MORON.
mainlymusicman 5 months ago
is this true
NguyenEmpir3 6 months ago
can any mechanic remove and engine limiter?
TheItalianPerson 6 months ago
@TheItalianPerson Why would you? Easy way to blow your engine
cars2cars 5 months ago
@cars2cars wow didnt know that lol.
TheItalianPerson 5 months ago
hi, what is the music in the background at 5:33 ~ 6:15 please ??
kelkunAK 6 months ago
I hate the styling of the new m3 :( The front bumper/grill ruin it...
jordandavid1992 6 months ago
8 gearzzz shit!
farooqilyas99 6 months ago
I want an Alfa Romeo Brera to be rear wheel drive i want it to be as reliable as the M3 i want an proper and i mean proper Alfa romeo engine in it, not like 250 or 280 Hp but 350 or 400 hp I want it to handle like M3 I want proper manual gearbox in it. does anyone else has ever wished for a recepie like this? please speak up
levlevi 6 months ago
is there any reason to buy this jap car?maybe for the half of its pice.......maybe.
evarammstein 6 months ago
how is this even a question? the m3 will never lose to a lexus
drudy95 6 months ago
@drudy95 because it did, this is just a video. Did you drove one? nop.
BB0YMatty 5 months ago
thumbs up if you think they should test the gtr
brandonmarks13279 6 months ago
@brandonmarks13279 Are you high? They tested the GTR and the black edition GTR already...
calvinblinkee 6 months ago
Lexus started coping everything from BMW and Mercedes, now they are pretending to be something "special", but nothing more than Luxury Wannabes, trying to be a competition for the real deal in Premium vehicles, BUT THEY ARE NOT!
This is a clear proof.
I will take a BMW M3 anyday! Lexus would never be something to consider...
If I am going to be in a dilema about what car of the same type to choose from, I will be dealing with M3, RS3 or C Class AMG.
wtrdogg20 6 months ago
damn there are alot of cocks for not buying bmws
thejdizzle55 6 months ago
///M-Power FTW
radar3699 6 months ago
the beamer is fucking beautiful but personally i would take that isf anyday its retarded
GRIDmygame 6 months ago
japanese playstationy stuff...does he meen technology?
imdevonur 6 months ago 5
@imdevonur he means software that makes the decisions for you.
cmanclan101 6 months ago
29 toyota-lexus don't like this. m3 <3...
TheMillos2001 6 months ago
"Now driving a Lexus has always been like sitting in a bucket of warm wall-paper paste reading a Jane Austen novel."
jrs89 6 months ago
@kgbkungza im not either. ima bimmer fan. buhh that sound jus sounded like my ex girlfriend is all...
FR4NK1E420 6 months ago
germans and japanese are the best at building cars, i've driven 4 jap cars, and have my first bmw e90 just over a year now. In terms of comfort and build quality i'd have to say the germans are much better at this. I really think of TOYOTA every time i see LEXUS, so i think why pay so much for a TOYOTA? i had my eye on the iS250 at one stage, spoke to someone driving it, heard is a comfortable drive to cruise in, but handling was quite poor, steering not very responsive, just like all toyotas!
Yikkon14 6 months ago
Well, Toyota is the largest car manufacturer in the world, so the germans can go hang theirself. Wolkswagen have like 5 brands and are the second largest, Toyota has 2. Thats because Toyota and Lexus have one of the best quality in the world and a great resale value. Jeremy doesnt understand a Lexus, he doesnt deserve to sit in a IS-F. The IS-F is the best combination of luxury and sport. Well, i dont say BMW is a bad manufacturer, they have some great technology, but Jeremy talks to much.
MrTorrHumor 6 months ago
THE JAPENESE WILL GET IT ALWAYS WRONG THEY ALWAYS TRY TO BEAT THE GERMAN CARS
bmw4lfe 6 months ago 2
@bmw4lfe that's awkward cause im pretty sure the Japanese didn't get it wrong the with GT-R or Lexus LFA.. They're faster than any production BMW, Mercedes, Ferrari, Lamborghini or ANY mainstream European manufacturer.
rwian 5 months ago
The Lexus ISF is just a more attractive car inside out and it's faster
andreakatickles1 6 months ago
@andreakatickles1 NO, It is not really faster.....it has just a speed limiter on a higher number....but if you remove the limiter in the M3, it beats the Lexus with ease!
Listen to Jeremy: Lexus has the more torque, yes, in paper, because they are at the high revs...that is USELESS, the torque is not available when is needed..."it does many things brilliantly, but the M3 does everything brilliantly"
BTW, handling is very important....ISF is like a crazy horse... nothing refined.
wtrdogg20 6 months ago
@wtrdogg20 the e92 maxes at about 155, no limiter. not that it matters because 99% of people who can afford these cars wont take them over 75.
cmanclan101 6 months ago
@cmanclan101 Love being apart of that 1% might as well call me an outlaw
bendadickarnold 6 months ago
@bendadickarnold i said the people who can afford them, parents dont count.
cmanclan101 6 months ago
@cmanclan101 Most parents shouldn't be buying them either unless you have more $300,000 in savings
bendadickarnold 6 months ago
@bendadickarnold its called financing.
cmanclan101 6 months ago
@cmanclan101 I understand that but when do you stop financing? Boat, cars, clothes soon you have a huge credit card payment and then boom the economy tanks and you lose your job. Plan for the future not how you look in a car today...
bendadickarnold 6 months ago
@bendadickarnold exactly. i promised myself when i turned 16 that the only reason i would ever buy a new car is if i make more than 3x the sticker price annually or if im able to pay cash on the spot.
dont worry, it wont happen for any car i would be interested in. buying a low mileage and lightly used car thats 5 - 10 years old is very easy in this day and age. buying new just doesn't make sense.
cmanclan101 6 months ago
@wtrdogg20 There is always torque...it just gets the peak rating at a high rpm, but you should still get decent torque throughout the revs
calvinblinkee 6 months ago
@calvinblinkee Of course there is always torque, but it is not well distributed through the revs....
wtrdogg20 6 months ago
In my opinion Lexus have done very well. It's a beautiful car. The 8 speed is better for fuel economy and top speed. Many cars have fake exhaust tips: Audi R8, Ferrari F430, Lamborghini LP640 and even the Veyron. The M3 is a good car, and Lexus has done very well to compete.
12389h 6 months ago
"the car for the family man..." that is until the wife nags and says "no, you can´t have that, we HAVE to buy a minivan, because it is functional"...the one bit women can´t understand yet is the sheer joy men get from a car that is exciting to drive, until they are committed to the minivan, the ultimate vehicular castration for family men, LOL...
TheSRalston 6 months ago
like I said bmw has been making the m series for how long now, but from experience and from a friend of mine working at bmw, they have alot of issues, u cant beat on them like a japanese car is all im saying. Nothing lasts as long as a honda, toyota, nissan, and so on. My buddy has a civic with a k20 in it, he'd beat the hell out of it, and he got it with around 40k miles, hes got over 110k now, and runs better then it did at 40k, which is mostly what u expect out of a japanaese car.
MrBruce1337 6 months ago
The M3 is the obvious choice, BMWs are simply more refined and all around better cars. Plus I'd rather have a german car than a fancy toyota any day, especially when this one is a $1000 cheaper
FreakyKing2 6 months ago
BMW all the way :)
bryan231462 6 months ago
Lol u you just can't come out of nowhere and build a car that will defeat a legend, m3 dominated in the past, in the present and is always gonna be dominant over all the cars in it's class. ------- period and theres nothing else to it
bogdanbbs1 6 months ago
ennnn eoooo AHHHHH ennnn oooo ennn WAHHHHH
koreanpride888 6 months ago
Once you drive a BMW, its a pretty obvious choice....
syco10562 6 months ago
@syco10562 ///M cars feel nothing like their "rivals". They're always on a completely different level.
FSMNoodlyAppendage 6 months ago
Love them both!
Olaipai 6 months ago
The Lexus ISF is just an amazing super sport sedan.
andreakatickles1 6 months ago
no matter what you'll never beat a german car unless it's a ferrari or a lambo or a pagani
MrBoxer7811 6 months ago
Please, drive a bmw and tell me what you'd rather have. Stop joking around. All I wanna do is drive my 7. forever
Skyhighblu 6 months ago
bmw m3 for sure and it will always will be. can't get enough of german engineering
TruAzn100 6 months ago
3:17 Fail.
iKeywee 6 months ago
@Gobber59, u can laugh all u want, my buddy works at bmw and they get these cars in on a daily basis. This is lexus's first v8 sports lexus, that is basically comparable to the m3. They have been making this car for how many years now, and still seem to run into the same electrical/transmission problems. If u try to even compare lexus/toyota to bmw in terms of quality and reliability ur are pure nuts. Germans may kno how to build em, but the japanese kno how to keep em 2gether.
MrBruce1337 6 months ago
isf is a reliable sports car, m3 is an unreliable try 2 be sports car.
MrBruce1337 6 months ago
@MrBruce1337 you dont know what you are talking about. thats absolute shite what your saying. lexus is a luxury car not a sports car. this is there 2nd or possibly 3rd attempt at being a sports car and its not a bad attempt at all but come on man the m3 has racing heritage that goes back decades. its clearly a true sports car.
piddyirishman 6 months ago
Brilliant
LeShiznit 7 months ago
I'd still take the ISF
cncfan 7 months ago
i hope lexus mould make a traditional manual for the isf.
iammikeeee 7 months ago
Beautiful BMW
/watch?v=nVI4VUNJEgk
TheRockZH 7 months ago
The ISF is a much better car than the m3. It's sexier faster and sounds way better. I hate the boxy look of the m3.
andreakatickles1 7 months ago
Everyone keeps forgettin something, the bmw M3 his a Twin turbo, anyone noticed that ? get a twin turbo on that ISF And then japan can teach germany a story.
StiflerNasser 7 months ago
@StiflerNasser Ummm, M3s DO NOT have twin turbos. They have a 4.0L Naturally Aspirated V8.
STi777 7 months ago
@StiflerNasser The 335i has a SINGLE turbo.
87BMWstroker 7 months ago
@87BMWstroker
No they dont. It's 2.
1Dustin 7 months ago
@1Dustin My bad. The N54 has two. you are correct sir.
87BMWstroker 7 months ago
give me a break!
or may i say fq-400?
AVIV222 7 months ago
believe me people this shit aint true the isf is faster than the m3 sedan maybe the coupe is faster than it but the sedan does'n stand a chance this guys need to stop lying to people
Bitchespoperty 7 months ago
im a american car guy especially corvettes, but the m3 is a bad ass car, the lexus isf is no where near a contender!! however id rather have a cts-v than both!!!!!
neerredd 7 months ago
lexus is shit, M POWER
335ipower11 7 months ago
But why the isf it's so expensive??? Still not as good as the bmw
charlsback 7 months ago
lol if it was a japanese driving that ISF, he would of won.
xtremekillin 7 months ago in playlist top gear
For full 12 years mercedes and many many other car company's trying to kill the m3 but no results bcos is perfection of the perfomance sport car !!!
///M POWER !!!
PoorIllyrian 7 months ago
I've driven the IS-F and can say that Jeremy doesn't give the car glory compared to the spiked head guy with the M-3.
riteful1 7 months ago
@riteful1
I love the ISF, but the M3 is a better car. Don't take that as me saying the ISF isn't a great car, it is.
RCTPatriot75 7 months ago
you don't hear german companies like porsche saying ohhh we've beat a nissan gtr killer. Shows the Japs have something to prove and there for are not as good.
TheLhos123 7 months ago
The Lexus is ugly.
MrEreda 7 months ago
what's the music in the ISF intro? it sounds like it's from some movie I watched long ago.
SilvrBckGorilla 7 months ago
@SilvrBckGorilla it's from alien
sanipirin 7 months ago
@sanipirin thanks a lot mate
SilvrBckGorilla 7 months ago
Lexus is way better, they're built with the highest standards.. The interior is perfect and the engines are smooth..
airtouch01 7 months ago
I believe they got the suspension dialed down a lot better on the newer ISF. It was able to equal the M3's lap time on a certain track. It really isn't a secret to make a car handle, and ride nicely. BMW just spends lots of time working its suspension out to get the right combo. The early ISF was tuned on the FUJI race track, the M3 was tuned on Nurburgring. Obviously the Nurburgring is the better track to get the cars suspension dialed down right for the real world.
robbc18 7 months ago
both cars are great, who owns a Lexus says its kicks Bmw's ass, and viceversa . you just have to be glad you own one...
shiraq07 7 months ago
"It's hard really, hard"
xtyson5 7 months ago
ISF looks, sounds, handles way better than the m3. It's even way faster.
andreakatickles1 7 months ago
@andreakatickles1 Lmao first off it looks like a crushed soda can, and nothing in the m3's class handles better, way faster? lmao no you saw the drag race the m3 revs to 8,300 and beat the ISF.
T4R2001 7 months ago
and to everyone that was wondering, if you dont mind 2 doors and a lower price, go buy a new boss. even with its "old rearend" it still out performs both cars on the track lol.
stevensjustin87 7 months ago
I imagine if I bought an isf I would love it to death and defend it against all criticism with the numbers and such. But if an m3 ever pulled up next to me, id feel like I bought the wrong one. Dunno why, I just know I would.
exiledrabbit 7 months ago
lexus didn't pay them enough
123cdecde 7 months ago
@123cdecde bullshit..I trust Clarkson
red33m23 7 months ago
LEXUS!!
AssduckTheScientist 7 months ago
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fake at 3:17 look at the bmw is way behind.. the is-f is winning but we know hot the shows works
cmghostbuster 7 months ago
fake at 3:17 look at the bmw is way behind.. the is-f is winning but there are many trys that the bmw win
cmghostbuster 7 months ago
the lexus..... slower... doesnt handle like the bmw, and a couple grand more? my money is on the bmw.
LuiL3wis 7 months ago
Why are cars going paddle shifters and push button shifting?
heartlessvietboy 7 months ago
Jeremy Clarkson is a biased Brit, if it's either American or Japanese, 80% of the time he'll dislike it or like it but speak of it in a condescending tone.
PelikanM200 7 months ago
@PelikanM200 *Cough evo X and GTR.. Cough*.
tagerung90 7 months ago
Keep in mind all, that Lexus have revised this car's suspension and chassis to make it better. It's just as good as the M3 SEDAN now and just as fast.
AdrianC12345 7 months ago
"LOO what is done to his air!!!!"
JeansForLife 7 months ago
@ttblj hey pussy I currently own an ISF bitch and this is my tenth Lexus and what wrong with Hyundai? I'd rather buy it over a fucked up square old mans car looking boring BMW . Pussy I gave many many videos on YouTube of all my beautiful cars. Go suck out u mada bloodclaat stinking pussy.
andreakatickles1 8 months ago
Haha BMW. In the past you have to be a cock to buy one, now you're a cock if you don't.
Tymebandeet 8 months ago
I own BMW M3 Coupe! its the best :
HawkZachary 8 months ago
///M3
TheFryingPan16 8 months ago
@MrInCarCam BMW interior are cheap looking and the doors are light weight just like a microwave plastic door. Lexus is plush and have the best interior there is. I don't even want to get into the fuck up old mans design BMW exterior, they should call the BMWs spongebobquarepants, they look like fucking box on wheels. Fuck u too u lesbian.
andreakatickles1 8 months ago
@andreakatickles1 hey you motherfucker you probably drive a busted ass hyundai.
ttblj 8 months ago
"They reckon they've built an m3 killer"... laughable comment of the year.
b4d69 8 months ago 61
@b4d69 loll yeaaa for real its actually funny..BMW probably were laughing and crying
m6205 7 months ago
@b4d69 a brit would never say "reckon"
bullshark3000 7 months ago
@b4d69 Be honest, do you really think Lexus would claim they've made a car that would 'own' an M3. Of course not. Any one would know thats just Jeremy's biased way of explaining things when he's presented with a Japanese Car. Lexus actually had said their new IS-F is a good competitor for the M3, not a so called 'M3 Killer' or a car that could beat an M3 because Lexus knows that BMW's are usually some of the best for making sports saloons so why would they make such a claim anyway...
Ritzkit4ABitzkit 7 months ago
Japanese cars has their standards...
MrPradaxXx 8 months ago
Yes he did say BMW .... BRILLIANT!!!!
agreeneyedfella 8 months ago
BMWs are targeted for retirement folks. Too boxy too square. Spogebobquarepants.
andreakatickles1 8 months ago
Researches shows that not only the ISF have better value than its competitors but that it is much faster from 0-60 and in a quarter mile than even the latest BMW M3. Top Gear I'd very bias when it comes to japanese cars. I wonder why is it that almost all YouTube videos with the ISF Vs BMW m3 the ISF always winning???????????
andreakatickles1 8 months ago
isf anyday
swbArchive 8 months ago
" The lexus ISF does somethings Brilliantly..... The M3 does Everything Brilliantly "
Thats just basic fact Toyota drivers...
get over it.
Howie262 8 months ago
1:20 to 1:36 total Aliens reference with the music added too.
dnuofntsol 8 months ago
Does it is an M3 killer? - NO :P
bestisbmw 8 months ago
I wish that jeremy would just say but its fucking automatic
ProffesorChaosesFile 8 months ago
to two morons below me: NO ONE GIVES A SHIT!
bechira 8 months ago
I have yet to see a Bavarian Motors Fan Admit Defeat. All they do is come up with excuses to why the M3 is slower. Lexus IS-F Wins!!
tnguyen318 8 months ago
@tnguyen318 top gear is always biased to european cars.
refresh967 8 months ago
Top Gear is a great show.
tnguyen318 8 months ago
@tnguyen318 i know. Its great. It's just a little biased to european cars.
refresh967 8 months ago
Europe builds machinery. I don't know about the steel industry there. Remember WWl and WWll Were started by the European Powers. Involved was America. The strong rules the World.
tnguyen318 8 months ago
@tnguyen318 Go research it. Germany is one of the worlds top Steel manufacturers globally...
not to mention that their steel is renown around the world...
ever heard of a "German Knife " ?
Howie262 8 months ago
I didn't know Germany Produces Steel. I didn't think there's much Iron there. No. What does a German Knife Look Like?
tnguyen318 8 months ago
@tnguyen318 haha, man you gotta read up friend...
Here are some Knife brands..
-Böker
-Eickhorn Soligen
-Henckles
etc....
Howie262 8 months ago
I don't follow the Knife and Gun World. How practical are they? Unless you're in the Military (Law Enforcement). Or an Outdoors person.
tnguyen318 8 months ago
@tnguyen318 Um very practical, im in the National guard and ill tell you a few German knifes i have that make all my guys jealous ..
-EikHorn Soligen KM2000
-Böker Apple Gate fairbairn Dagger, and boot knife
-the German paratrooper Gravity knife.
those are just a few, you can google it bud.
But yeah, i mean for Quality vs. Quantity, German is best for shure.
Howie262 8 months ago
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refresh967 8 months ago
@Howie262 japanese steel is better than german steel.
nightrider2k6 8 months ago
@nightrider2k6 Are you talking about samurai swords or tactical military knives and quality ?
because yeah, Germans win in that department.
Howie262 2 months ago
@tnguyen318 what the h*** are you talking about wierdo. didnt you say u liked the is and no ur all sukcing europe dick. 1. europe is weak compared to america 2. when do you talk about stupid contries when i was talking about cars stupid.
refresh967 8 months ago
Lexus and BMW makes great cars. I want to own an IS-F and an M3 one day.
tnguyen318 8 months ago
i dont get your british jokes... they confuse meh!!!
NathanHansen5254 8 months ago
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Japanese have never been successful in consumer satisfaction simply because they always put the engineering first, not the Marketing
VigenToT 8 months ago
This guy is waaaaaaay too biased, Top Gear needs more diversity to better judge these cars.
CronusandRhea 8 months ago
@CronusandRhea the truth is that Germans are and were always the leaders of car production, while Japanese' always been only followers. Germans spent/d billions on RnD and the fundamental studies in all the spheres of production cycle and so they do in assembling process. the result is that all BWSs and Mercs are perfect in ALL the aspects, while Japanese might be perfect in only SOME
VigenToT 8 months ago
@VigenToT plus, the most important thing, is that Japanese have never been successful in their marketing planning, but they simply tried to hit Germans only by engineering figures: say, if Germans produce 5 step gearbox, they go for 6, or if Germans had 100 Hp, they would go for 101Hp and so on. But this doesn’t really pay off much, because what really attract the customer are not the engineering figures but the driving experience, safety, comfort and status.
VigenToT 8 months ago
@VigenToT I believe the two countries build their cars for different performance reasons. German cars and Italian cars are for top speed, Japanese have a balance of speed and agility, while English for high speed and comfort. American cars for the quarter mile.
CronusandRhea 8 months ago
@CronusandRhea German cars are very comfortable, agile and damn fast at the same time. Italian cars are a designer's wet dream... But not allways this comfortable. Still agile and insanely fast. Japanese cars well that's a different story. You can only have a road going rally car which has no comfort left or you can have a car which is comfortable but not fun and not fast. English cars are super light adrenaline shots which are only for some adrenaline junkies who only care about agility. :)
klramon 8 months ago
@klramon I don't know which Japanese cars you've driven, I bet you stereotype all JDM or Japanes sports cars fans as the FF types, anyways I'd so take an RX-7 or S2000 over an english TVR or german BMW Z4 ROADSTER. I don't know where you live, maybe the UK type of cars are dominante.
CronusandRhea 8 months ago
@CronusandRhea it is your opinion. I am from Germany. I drove the subaru impreza wrx(one which was a proper rally monster), mitsubishi evo 3, rx7, skyline GT-S(r33), civic type-R (european one), couple of lexuses, camry, avensis, accord and nissan 200sx. I think this uncompromisingness of this cars is why this cars are so good. I mean the sport ones. You get in and feel that this car was made for only one purpose. To go as fast as hell or to put huge smile on your face by going sideways.
klramon 8 months ago
@klramon I have only driven a few Japanese sports cars, you are very fortunate for being able to sample such a variety of automobiles. I actually got to drive the Audi from the Transporter movie which was super fun and I drove a Savannah RX-7 FC, which I was like $500 away from getting before the owner sold it for more right under me! Anyway, you are probably right, since I have not driven many cars I just favor Japanese models, but not civic or integras, those are just a joke. Believe me
CronusandRhea 8 months ago
@klramon I have only driven a few Japanese sports cars, you are very fortunate for being able to sample such a variety of automobiles. I actually got to drive the Audi from the Transporter movie which was super fun and I drove a Savannah RX-7 FC, which I was like $500 away from getting before the owner sold it for more right under me! Anyway, you are probably right, since I have not driven many cars I just favor Japanese models, but not civic or integras, those are just a joke. Believe me I'd .
CronusandRhea 8 months ago
@CronusandRhea Because my friends are car freaks. :) E.g. one of my friends imported accord euro r from Japan. First thing he did... Called me and drove to the nürburgring. I think he could buy an M5 for the money he paid for this honda. But still it is really hardcore! By the way. This civic fn2 I drove, I liked it. Ok it is uncomfortable but it feels a lot sharper than a golf gti. I know honda has one of the worst reputations because of ricers but it doesn't mean that they build bad cars.
klramon 8 months ago
@klramon Your friend is dumb as fuck to get an accord R over a m5. FWD fail.
Jamzkangster 8 months ago
@Jamzkangster What do you think I told him? It is dumb but it is his money and he loves honda. That's it. I would buy M5 as well because RWD + 5L V8 is way better than a FWD 2.2L vtech.
klramon 8 months ago
@CronusandRhea if you want friends like mine (completely bonkers) go to a race track and talk to the drivers. It is how it all started for me on the nürburgring about 6 years ago.
RX-7 is really tail happy if you will buy it prepare to buy new tires every 100 miles. Why? Because you won't resist it to not to throw this car in a slide.
Ah Audi A8... One of the cars I haven't driven yet. Guess what I've got! ;)
klramon 8 months ago
@klramon When I get my dream car I will take it to Laguna Seca on track days for regular people with fast cars. I have about a dozen affordable cars I'd like to buy and tune. Who knows when the economy gets better here I'll be able to afford a trip to your country and see what your scene is like.
CronusandRhea 8 months ago
Howie262 8 months ago
@Howie262 Bullshit. I know for a fact a R34 Skyline is much fast than say bmw gtr or audi A8, whatever. Also, our classic muscle cars will eat your girly/old people luxry sports cars in the 1/4 mile any day, I'd be willing to put money on it! I know german cars are not made out of all metals or even carbine fiber, german made cars are over priced as well. I rather drop 20k on an 18 year old rx-7 that is better balanced and quick than a 50k luxry sports car that can do 200mph in comfort/ heavy.
CronusandRhea 8 months ago
@CronusandRhea You're right....
a stock Porsche Turbo S doing 1/4 miles @ 10.8 (fact) is really bad...
and its funny you compared an all out r34 TT Sports car to a bunch of German sedans.... XD
bottom line, your japanese rivals may be cheaper.....
but at the end of the day... Stock European cars will always dominate.
bottom line.
Howie262 8 months ago
@Howie262 Porshe Turbo S would not beat a Dodge Charger in the 1/4, It would beat a muscle car in the long run though since that is what european cars are made for. Lastly, I'd challenge your european car against my Jap car on the touge anyday. No need to keep debating though most of these cars are for people with good jobs and the US is not full of jobs currently. Enjoy whatever fun car you are fortunate enough to own. I like the french Citreon brand rally car and the British TVR.
CronusandRhea 8 months ago
@CronusandRhea plus, the most important thing, is that Japanese have never been successful in their marketing planning, but they simply tried to hit Germans only by engineering figures: say, if Germans produce 5 step gearbox, they go for 6, or if Germans had 100 Hp, they would go for 101Hp and so on. But this doesn’t really pay off much, because what really attract the customer are not the engineering figures but the driving experience, safety, comfort and status.
VigenToT 8 months ago
@VigenToT Great comment bro..! :D
Howie262 8 months ago
@VigenToT i think you are mistaken, engineering figures, japanese cars most usually have less horsepower than their german competition from the factory. also why would you say that the japanese never been successful in marketing planning?.. japanese products are very successful. as far as this comparison goes i prefer the m3 over the isf. but i prefer the s2000,wrx sti, and nissan gtr over the m3. m3 is pricey, customers generally are attracted to value. not everyone can afford a mercedes benz.
nightrider2k6 8 months ago 19
@nightrider2k6 Yeah, you are right, Japanese cars r for losers, and Merc and BMW for winners. Yeah, of course not everyone can (and shall not) afford them.
VigenToT 8 months ago
@nightrider2k6 Because, at the end of the day your driving around in cheap Japanese car, don't get me wrong where would we be without a cheap Japanese car? I daily drive a 09 Civic SI, love it but the quality just isn't like BMW quality, I drive my 98' M3 sedan on the weekends and its just built to last, the plastic in the car is 13 years old and still holding up, the leathers a bit worn but I can't imagine what my SI would look like in 13 years, all I know is not as good as my M3.
MrInCarCam 8 months ago
@nightrider2k6 True, but it all depends on what you are looking for in a car. If you want rally performance made cars with good, but not great interior, go for either the WRX STI or Nissan GTR. Now when you said the Honda S2000, no argument there if your looking for a convertible sports car. BMW M3 on the other hand was always seemed to have been designing cars meant for business men and women who like to look right while driving, but still get that sports car performance.
tuck234 6 months ago
@tuck234 GTR's interior is a 100 times better then the m3s....
gevosti 6 months ago