ARMA - Pell training (Cutting with the longsword)

[DuykRuyk]

The sword is as slow or fast as you make it.

[ThegnThrand]

This is Thrand!!!

Nice pell work with with hand and a half sword :P

[xxTeutonicKnightxx]

@KissakiSan I do not know about that, I handled tools that the drill bits are made out of Titanium so it can drill through steel. I also read about Titanium and it’s strength, it is about as strong as a 1065 heat treated steel or a bit stronger but much lighter… 

[gurkfisk89]

@xxTeutonicKnightxx

Drill bits are not made out of titanuim. But some are coated with titanium carbide or titanium nitride (that's the gold looking one). Both these ceramic materials are very hard, but also very brittle, so if you make the whole drill out of it they would break instantly because they can't handle the stress.

[xxTeutonicKnightxx]

@KissakiSan Why not? Titanium is as stron as steel or a bit stronger...

[minimacer]

But to be able to strike through chainmail, you'll need some more power in those swings/stabs.

[Salisaad]

@minimacer No strength will get your sword through chainmail, but it's usually enough to cause severe (maybe even lethal) internal injuries without striking the chainmail open.

[chillnshred]

He's whipping that 20 pound sword around pretty fast 0o (sarcasm) 

[xxTeutonicKnightxx]

@chillnshred Long swords are only about pounds not 20. There is no Western sword that is 20 pounds.

[nivarion]

@xxTeutonicKnightxx Well, there were. But they were fifteen feet long, and had silver and gold laid into the blade and didn't have an edge and only a clinically insane man would have tried fighting with them.

They were meant to look big and flashy and to be carried over the shoulder during a parade by a hero of a battle. Unfortunatly, a lot of idiot's think art depicts real life. If that were true, well look at how hollywood portrays guns.

[citricsystemz]

it should say great sword, or claymore.

[Okaruwazashi]

Longsword is the right term. Pretty sure it's taken from fencing manuals of the period.

[citricsystemz]

either way I want one.

[rinjimaikeru]

I will preface this comment by stating that I hold the ARMA and HEMA in general in the highest regard, but it's beginning to come across that you all seem to feel you have something to prove. Why?

As I said, no offense intended. Just an observation.

[darthmongoose2]

the main reason for this is hollywoods effect on peoples perceptions of what is more or less a forgotten art

popular culture tells us endlessly about asian martial arts, and films (such as everything tarantino makes) go to great length to promote the myth of the katana as the greatest weapon ever

they are to prove, which is that western martial arts were just as good as any other, even though anything from the medieval period is derided as stupid and clumsy

[rinjimaikeru]

@darthmongoose2

The public will only ever think whatever they want to think, and the media will always be the media. It's fruitless to battle either. Who cares what others think? Its most important for your swordsmanship to mean something to you as a swordsman. Public opinion is meaningless.

Also, I've been a kendoka for 6 years now, and hold HEMA in the highest regard. Its not forgotten to people who look for it. Pretty easy to find these days.

[radicalhit]

I always knew European swords tended to be very lightweight and fast but JESUS CHRIST! I didnt expect it to be this fast.

[Salisaad]

@radicalhit Well, most of the speed is in training, I do not think I could swing a langschwert so fast without some serious training.

[ThePhilosophersTruth]

What does "Pell training" mean?

[insertoriginaluser]

Pell training means to train your cutting technique on a pell. :D

[ThePhilosophersTruth]

I assume the person in the video is you? It looks like fun, but that poor tree :-)

I've been training in martial arts since I was 5, but never got into swords of any kind, always wanted to try fencing though.

And where is this video taken at? Sure is a nice green place, after living in Las Vegas for the last 7 years I'm ready to move to a nice green place like that.

Enjoy your surroundings, enjoy your "pell training", looks like a lot of fun and also such a nice place to do it in....

[insertoriginaluser]

Haha no, if you read the description it's from a renaissance swordsmanship group called the ARMA. This was taken at the Iron Door Studio which is outside of Atlanta, Georgia.

I've been training in European swordsmanship for 2 years, though without any prior martial arts history. I admit that I love swinging swords around more than unarmed combat though both are essentials. xD

I do my own pell training(in a city), but I don't think I'm ready to post it up yet. This guy's waay better than me. :D

[TheWildAssCopyCat]

Is that sword made of titanium to be light and fast ??? If not it would seem that you could have one made, and be one up on the competition...

^..^

[leavemealone2006]

This isn't really about competition. It's about rediscovering our martial heritage.

[insertoriginaluser]

Well said.

[CavalerVlah]

@insertoriginaluser This isn't martial art yet. It's just wood bashing with an iron rod. But I admire and congratulate them for what they're trying to do. There is another group in Germany doing the same thing but they're more successful: they do not try to overdo Asian martial arts. They base their art on a 15th century manuscript about sword fighting.

It is also highly dangerous to swing a sharp long blade like that over your unprotected head. I've e-mailed ARMA and they'll correct that.

[halfassedfart]

@CavalerVlah It's a blunted practice sword.

[xxTeutonicKnightxx]

@CavalerVlah This is a martial art. Do you even know what martial art means? It come from the Roman word art of Mars. And if this is not an art of the God of War, then what is this?

You do not know about sword fighting do you? Do you even know why he is going that? It is like Punching a punching bag like they do in boxing, help you get a hang of what you are doing. This video is also to show you that you can use both edges of the sword... Some thing you can not do with a Katana.

[CavalerVlah]

@xxTeutonicKnightxx WHOA! take it easy you pompous sorry arse... for short martial art means the art of war, the art of combat. Read my previous post and try to understand it. Shouldn't be too hard, even for you.

I merely stated that swinging that blade over your head like that has no real combat value: an easy side parry from your oponent leaves you totally open and utterly exposed for a direct lethal blow to your mug. Then it's curtains. It may look spectacular but so does morris dancing.

[MrAlepedroza]

@CavalerVlah : watch?v=mjT4JepA-Vc

This is the real european swordsmanship, not the clumsy style that Hollywood and popular culture presents to us almost always. If you want more, see some ARMA vids I have on my channel.

Hope you'll like it.

[Okaruwazashi]

Sounding a bit like racial pride there.

[leavemealone2006]

maybe a little :P

But seriously, it's learning about our ancestors. For so long I've been told that my ancestors were lumbering idiots with no martial proficiency or military tact to speak of. It's nice to know that my ancestors were actually martially intelligent.

Also, after reading through some of the medieval and renaissance martial literature, I have discovered that we actually have a lot to learn from them.

[xxTeutonicKnightxx]

@leavemealone2006 Bro I been told the same thing in school for so long. It is graet to know that it has been changing a bit. More info is gettintg out there. To many myths out there, why to many. I still know ppl that thing a sword is 20 lbs! WTF

[leavemealone2006]

In addition, what is so wrong with respecting the martial art of my ancestors?

[Okaruwazashi]

Nothing! I was being silly. Glad you didn't take it badly.

[leavemealone2006]

OK lol

[Zwerchhau]

@Okaruwazashi What, it's ok for Japanese to be proud of their martial heritage, but not OK for those of European descent to be proud of theirs? Sounds a little bit like enthnocentrism and bowing down to niponophile martial arts mythologies to me.

[Okaruwazashi]

@Zwerchhau

No. I never said so.