ok, you're right, im sorry again. im not perfect, and im not used to people who dont like me acting in my favor. im sorry i implied that, but please dont fault me for being skeptical. i do appreciate it, and i hate that you feel im out to get ya. you know when we started talking, im a big fan. And being friends with you was of great value to me, and i hate the direction things are in. ive tried several times to apologize. i feel bad, but im not butthurt, why are you? friendship is a 2 way thing
Thanks for mirroring, rozeboosje. I'm subbed to nathanforst's new channel but the original vid of his didn't show in my subscriptions until recently.
You do not know who it is that has done this. But as a hardcore christain, I too will tell you tube they are wrong. Far is far. Coz did nothing wrong.
Youtube is doing this on purpose. It wants to get rid of controversy and instead focus on politically friendly channels and professional content providers. As they have been quoted, they want to compete with cable networks.
In the end they are going to do what ever makes them the most money. They do not advocate free speech when it's bad for business.
122,000 views and an audience of one thousand subs isn't even a drop in the bucket to them.
I haven't had cable tv in about 10 years because of that exact reason. plus hulu is awesome and I can watch star trek episodes in high def on any given trekkie whim :D
Don't get me wrong man, I'm not saying I agree with their processes, nor am I saying we should enjoy what they're doing... the main point is that it's completely legal for them to do so.
I also agree with fighting for something you want, and/or fighting for a cause, so I'm with you guys.. but the whole "free speech" term should be left out - it just sounds silly as it doesn't apply at all on a privately owned forum.
I agree, but on the other hand, they allow anybody to join. They are under no obligation to give anyone a platform, you're right about that, BUT once they do give somebody a platform, to take it away on a whim, that is morally objectionable to say the least.
You could use the same logic to say free speech doesn't apply in most media that matters: Television, Newspapers etc.
So where does it apply? Your lounge-room only? If there is no free speech in public media then maybe its effectively the same as having no or little free speech at all. Public media should have some responsibility.
Yeah, there is free speech in a public setting, however this is technically not a public setting since YouTube is a privately owned company, and this is a corporately controlled environment - they have user agreements and TOS in black and white explaining their right to suspend anyone for any reason, whether we agree with it or not.
Now, that said, if the suspension turns out to be unfounded or frivolous, his account will be reinstated. I highly doubt bitching about it will do any good...
I think bitching about it is a great way to try and do some good. Should we all be silent while YT rapes users to cover their own pathetic ass? YT deserves extinction with this sort of garbage behaviour.
yeah i'm proud of that i helped, were working on yours next and it's not the free speech thing it's you just bother me
drumsforhands 2 years ago
LOL....these Poor Atheists.
they actually think "120,000" Views means anything to Youtube.
LOL
these Atheists claim to be "Intelligent"
Here's a tip for you Atheists.....go learn about %%% & Fractions.....then you'll discover why "120,000" is Laughable......LOL....RFL
Proves the Weakness of Atheism....they Cry like babies over Nothing.
Actus7 2 years ago
A faceless troll. Go figure.
Blocked
rozeboosje 2 years ago
his alts are suspended too. does he have a webpage?
freebaker 2 years ago
hazard a guess ...
BTW - watch this space.
rozeboosje 2 years ago
ok, you're right, im sorry again. im not perfect, and im not used to people who dont like me acting in my favor. im sorry i implied that, but please dont fault me for being skeptical. i do appreciate it, and i hate that you feel im out to get ya. you know when we started talking, im a big fan. And being friends with you was of great value to me, and i hate the direction things are in. ive tried several times to apologize. i feel bad, but im not butthurt, why are you? friendship is a 2 way thing
kozmikzen 2 years ago
well, i still appreciate it. And i wish you'd get over being mad. im sorry i pissed you off.
kozmikzen 2 years ago
Thanks so much, Roze. I truly appreciate it
kozmikzen 2 years ago
thanks fakey...if you really did it. i appreciate it
kozmikzen 2 years ago
Thanks for mirroring, rozeboosje. I'm subbed to nathanforst's new channel but the original vid of his didn't show in my subscriptions until recently.
Complaint sent.
whwstudio 2 years ago
Would you please explain what a "vote bot" is. I don't understand how this works. Thank you.
Belle19700 2 years ago
You do not know who it is that has done this. But as a hardcore christain, I too will tell you tube they are wrong. Far is far. Coz did nothing wrong.
greenstar2003 2 years ago
hi greenstar, this is my new channel.
kozmikzen 2 years ago
Filed.
Always glad to help. I never heard of them, but i support what their doing.
wolfeedarkfang 2 years ago
YouTube, Fix that fucking broken flagging system.
Otherwise it will keep getting exploited.
qanazir 2 years ago
Youtube is doing this on purpose. It wants to get rid of controversy and instead focus on politically friendly channels and professional content providers. As they have been quoted, they want to compete with cable networks.
In the end they are going to do what ever makes them the most money. They do not advocate free speech when it's bad for business.
122,000 views and an audience of one thousand subs isn't even a drop in the bucket to them.
Nocturnous 2 years ago
Ha, I don't watch cable cause its boring and pointless. I guess I'll have to stop watching Youtube too,.
Rybot9000 2 years ago
I haven't had cable tv in about 10 years because of that exact reason. plus hulu is awesome and I can watch star trek episodes in high def on any given trekkie whim :D
Nocturnous 2 years ago
Complaint sent.
staringintotheabyss 2 years ago
done.
bezboznik84 2 years ago
Complaint sent. Us atheists need to stick together.
Trexboss 2 years ago
Complaint sent.
Keep up the good work.
Hao1981 2 years ago
Cheers
rozeboosje 2 years ago
Nathan seriously needs to CALM THE FUCK DOWN and speak in a normal tone maybe once in a while.
anthonzi 2 years ago
LOL. Maybe, but he's fighting for a good cause.
rozeboosje 2 years ago
Of course I agree on the principle here, but what you guys don't understand is that this isn't a public forum, so free speech doesn't really apply.
YouTube can pull someone's account down for whatever reasons they want, and they don't have to give any good reason for it.
siciliano29 2 years ago
Why do people keep making this stupid argument?
Just because a company has the legal right to fuck people over doesn't mean they should just bend over and invite it to do so.
rozeboosje 2 years ago
Don't get me wrong man, I'm not saying I agree with their processes, nor am I saying we should enjoy what they're doing... the main point is that it's completely legal for them to do so.
I also agree with fighting for something you want, and/or fighting for a cause, so I'm with you guys.. but the whole "free speech" term should be left out - it just sounds silly as it doesn't apply at all on a privately owned forum.
siciliano29 2 years ago
I agree, but on the other hand, they allow anybody to join. They are under no obligation to give anyone a platform, you're right about that, BUT once they do give somebody a platform, to take it away on a whim, that is morally objectionable to say the least.
rozeboosje 2 years ago
I agree, it's definitely morally objectionable... but my point remains - it has nothing to do with free speech! lol
siciliano29 2 years ago
You could use the same logic to say free speech doesn't apply in most media that matters: Television, Newspapers etc.
So where does it apply? Your lounge-room only? If there is no free speech in public media then maybe its effectively the same as having no or little free speech at all. Public media should have some responsibility.
cobol528 2 years ago
Yeah, there is free speech in a public setting, however this is technically not a public setting since YouTube is a privately owned company, and this is a corporately controlled environment - they have user agreements and TOS in black and white explaining their right to suspend anyone for any reason, whether we agree with it or not.
Now, that said, if the suspension turns out to be unfounded or frivolous, his account will be reinstated. I highly doubt bitching about it will do any good...
siciliano29 2 years ago
TOS puts the TOS on Tosser :)
I think YT is fairly public.
I think bitching about it is a great way to try and do some good. Should we all be silent while YT rapes users to cover their own pathetic ass? YT deserves extinction with this sort of garbage behaviour.
cobol528 2 years ago
That's total bullshit!
CousinoMacul 2 years ago
Yup. And I've emailed all addresses I can think of.
rozeboosje 2 years ago