@throatgorge2 YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME. Now I respect that; we may all have our own musical tastes and desires that peak our interest. But that is not music, I looked up the remake you claimed as "best" because who isnt looking for something better? I then proceeded to sign in just to express my disgust with your comment. This my good friend,; is the best remake.
although i'm a Simon and Garfunkel die hard fan i'm still in love with this remake (i'm an avid metal listener).
Geez this song is awesome! Imho is not striking and screaming in my eats and keeps that soft song vibe and sweetly remade the "sound" of S&G in a more metal and epic way. Way to go atrocity!
the song i`ve choosed for my best friend ...... on his last way , he must go at the age of 45 (some kids would say that is old enough - i don`t think so) ... i`ve not taken the original of simon and garfunkel ... this one he would like ... bye bye , my friend, till later....
@MrGhost1312 You chose a right farewell. Lost friend are not lost but it's a "see you soon". I've lost my best friend at 28 y.o. (i'm 32 now) and i'm still missing him everyday. So everytime you think or remember some good days spent with him is not dead anymore.
The "original" most people know is a remix that didn't actually involve Simon or Garfunkel anyways (the actual original did not involve electric instruments). I love the original and despite hating most new adaptations of classic rock songs I actually really like this interpretation.
krulls voice is very un-impressing. nonetheless - a gorgeous song will always a remain a gorgeous song . important is the good wil and honorable thought of tribute , and so ......i like atrocities attemp !
I'll concede this isn't the best version ever...but for some reason I can't stop listening to it. Whatever the reason, it gets a pair of thumbs way up.
Greatest country ever stolen, as Bobcat used to say, eh? And we have the balls to dictate language requirements...lol. You don't speak Cherokee, so stfu.
@EricWolfborn i really think that thing about covering must be about doing a different version. the strict covering is...why do this? and this one is pretty alike the original, except for the distortion.
@trashse123 A major part of doing a cover is paying homage to the original. Rebuilding the song from the ground up with some of the same lyrics isn't covering a song, it's rewriting it. If you want to make it completely different, the same question could be asked: Why cover it at all?
@ancientalt Wait till you hear the Bobaflex vesion. I am not a fan of theirs, but they played it live on 99.7 the Blitz here in Columbus, Ohio..........Totally Freaking awesome......... They even have the blessing of Paul Simon.
@666TheVampire666 Your user name is a fail mister Count Von Count. LOL Fucking faggot......... im a player from the north thus making me a Nawfyplaya.. hahahahah bye bitch.
I have searched everywhere for the album that this song is on and can't find ANY info on it. I've checked the Watchmen soundtrack and their albums and nothing! Does anyone know where I can find this besides a crappy mp3; I want lossless.
Relativity is a great thing...You like Nevermore's cover because you like the genre. I like Atrocity's cover because i love the original song, and it gets close to it. See ya! You Ass!!!
Dont know why I got a thumbs down. I guess the truth hurts. Besides i do not see how Americans could even play an instrument. It would require to much effort for their fat fingers to work properly,and can you imagine them trying to keep up on the drums. Probably have a cheeseburger hanging from a string just out of touch in front of them to keep them moving to the beat.
Actually, I am a drummer, and we use tacos. I hang them from my 22 inch ride, which looks like a pancake.
In all seriousness, you are dumb. Thats like me saying all Germans walk around with Swastikas on their arm and hitler moustaches. Atrocity's older stuff was good, then when they came out with Werk 80 II that was the worst piece of garbage ever. Hallucinations was probably their best album yet.
LOL omg you comment made my day, i to think the same about americans bunch of lazy fat fingerd rednecks. Not every single 1 of them of coarse just the majority.
i concur. All about european metal. American metal cant compare...i mean sure Lamb of God and dare i speak their name...Metallica *cringes*...are good american metal bands (cept metallica...i hate those assclowns) that people listen to..but if u want real metal...hit up the european bands.
You realized that Metallica is what your Euro-trash bands grew up listening to? You think Meshuggah, Opeth, or any other amazing European bands wouldn't attest to listening to them growing up?
God, trolls are getting so bad at what they do these days...
Well you can say whatever you want, but this cover is rly great one. It doesn't just multiple original one but it brings something new to the great old song.Combination of female and male voices are great addition, and also a music.
All in all this is a very good cover of a fantastic song,I can listen to it again and again. Lyric is amazing.
This version is quite unique, very well played, it is hard to get such a classic song redone and well in a different genre, so once again amazing job. Very intriguing sound.
Nothing touches the original, but this is awesome, and it's good to see someone putting an original spin on it. Almost every cover I hear of this song lacks any trace of passion or emotion, and this hits the nail on the head.
i like that "aggressive" background, heared the cover in watchmen but i think it has a potion of voices that wont get into the recall of american idol :D
but it's still a nice idea to reinvent that song which is really hard to cover without changing it's overall style
Wow. You really are an idiot, huh? And if your'e goint to answer a question with a question, at least make sure they aren't stupid 'desperately trying to insult people' questions. It only makes you look dumber.
Also, BNobez has a point. You get straight A's and can't type right?
Somebody's a liar~!
And you don't have to be such a troll. Stop flaming people for the music they listen to.
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Omg, ppl plz leave your fairytale-fanboy-attitude and go listen to the original tune. Maybe Atrocity is a great band for you, I don't care, maybe it really is, but every cover should be done with 'the-best-i-can' attitude, as a tribute. Imho this... this is an insult to Simon & Garfunkel.
It's different, tha's all. I like it, but i never really listened to simon and garfunkel. Not My gen. This is a good song on it's own. But respect should be given to the original.
I think that there is not as much emotion as in the original, but the original needed more music, and Atrocity understood it and made somehow a great remix of this song. Maybe if the song would have been on the same beat at when it starts it would have been better, but it's still very nice.
ctm la huea bakan
miguelculiao 2 months ago
Well this is how we do..... i think atrocity has best remix of original than nevermore but in some way its hard to explain both version.......
RePtIlLiA100 4 months ago
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Slipsnob 4 months ago
the cover from the bates is better
theaethyr 5 months ago
Good cover.
AndryIsHere 5 months ago
This should be the original
blazematt10 5 months ago
I like it, but it remembers me a christmas song.
ravenskater 6 months ago
yes they're spot on, this cover is very much an atrocity.
yeahacoustic 7 months ago 4
try the nevermore cover ;)
boogiewu 7 months ago
this song is hard to butcher because the natural harmony and lyrics of the original is very powerful.
philaboston 7 months ago
Ascension of the Watchers version (Burton C. Bell's side project) did an awesome version of this as well.
emeraldthane 7 months ago
so it's not just a clever name after all
primepm 7 months ago
SOUND AMAZING
I LOVE THIS SONG
ritas666 10 months ago 6
is this the same atrocity from the godless years song?
chemostrincougar 11 months ago
@chemostrincougar the band is the same, but its not the same atrocity ;)
carcassgrindcorpsesc 8 months ago
genial
terrorthomas88 1 year ago
cool
Amorakas 1 year ago
you cant just re-make that song, note how the only good sounding one is the original
THErickuss 1 year ago
Try Gregorian's version.
Shuroi 1 year ago
@Shuroi Just did, but I dont like it ;) in my opinion: the Atrocity version is the best cover of the song.
GideonMedia 11 months ago
*sigh* really is a shame people are have lost the ability to appreciate real music thanks to.....Mainstream.
Muusicca 1 year ago
This album is fucking impossible to get for a decent price.
lilweezy1984 1 year ago
Best remake is by the Dickies.
throatgorge2 1 year ago
@throatgorge2 YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME. Now I respect that; we may all have our own musical tastes and desires that peak our interest. But that is not music, I looked up the remake you claimed as "best" because who isnt looking for something better? I then proceeded to sign in just to express my disgust with your comment. This my good friend,; is the best remake.
xach1090 1 year ago
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Alwyndark 8 months ago
@xach1090 You should try the Emiliana Torrini's version of this song. This one sound to energic for the way I feel this song.
Alwyndark 8 months ago
@throatgorge2 You fail at taste forever.
XCasperX666 10 months ago
I remember when this video only had like.
20k views.
;___;
Slipsnob 1 year ago
although i'm a Simon and Garfunkel die hard fan i'm still in love with this remake (i'm an avid metal listener).
Geez this song is awesome! Imho is not striking and screaming in my eats and keeps that soft song vibe and sweetly remade the "sound" of S&G in a more metal and epic way. Way to go atrocity!
ottovp 1 year ago
the song i`ve choosed for my best friend ...... on his last way , he must go at the age of 45 (some kids would say that is old enough - i don`t think so) ... i`ve not taken the original of simon and garfunkel ... this one he would like ... bye bye , my friend, till later....
MrGhost1312 1 year ago 2
@MrGhost1312 You chose a right farewell. Lost friend are not lost but it's a "see you soon". I've lost my best friend at 28 y.o. (i'm 32 now) and i'm still missing him everyday. So everytime you think or remember some good days spent with him is not dead anymore.
ottovp 1 year ago
This is great, wow.
I don't usually like remake, but this is extremely good.
RaidenGP 1 year ago
Meh,Nevermores version owns this.Good cover though.
666MetalMatt 1 year ago 2
@666MetalMatt Nevermore owns most people in general.
DarinCvS2 1 year ago
It sounds like a carol.
Spize12012 1 year ago
The "original" most people know is a remix that didn't actually involve Simon or Garfunkel anyways (the actual original did not involve electric instruments). I love the original and despite hating most new adaptations of classic rock songs I actually really like this interpretation.
xcalibr83 1 year ago
loooooooove ittttttt
spagnolina1993 1 year ago
krulls voice is very un-impressing. nonetheless - a gorgeous song will always a remain a gorgeous song . important is the good wil and honorable thought of tribute , and so ......i like atrocities attemp !
gp170276 1 year ago
Very good cover of this great song!
codemaster81 1 year ago
I like english just fine. I'll leave it to the minority to learn my language.
foogledoo32 1 year ago
You guyz are good... keep it up!!!!!
idolzzzz 1 year ago
I'll concede this isn't the best version ever...but for some reason I can't stop listening to it. Whatever the reason, it gets a pair of thumbs way up.
EricWolfborn 1 year ago
Gaaaaaarbage.
foogledoo32 1 year ago
@foogledoo32
Tu mama es basura
zirius00 1 year ago
@zirius00 Tu mama es muy fea y gorda.
foogledoo32 1 year ago
@foogledoo32 jajaja te chigas por que mi mama ya se murio y quedan puros huesos idiota jajaja
zirius00 1 year ago
@zirius00 I dont even speak spanish, wetback.
foogledoo32 1 year ago
@foogledoo32 learn stupid
zirius00 1 year ago
@foogledoo32
Greatest country ever stolen, as Bobcat used to say, eh? And we have the balls to dictate language requirements...lol. You don't speak Cherokee, so stfu.
johnnybooker 1 year ago
Yo, fuck that shit! I'm from germany!
Krateninja 1 year ago
....please silence,its not good,sry
wodanaz999 1 year ago
die in pain you people! have you heard the nevermore version?!? we have it here on youtube...think you should try.
trashse123 1 year ago
@trashse123 I just checked it out. One of the worst covers of anything I've ever heard.
EricWolfborn 1 year ago
@EricWolfborn i really think that thing about covering must be about doing a different version. the strict covering is...why do this? and this one is pretty alike the original, except for the distortion.
trashse123 1 year ago
@trashse123 A major part of doing a cover is paying homage to the original. Rebuilding the song from the ground up with some of the same lyrics isn't covering a song, it's rewriting it. If you want to make it completely different, the same question could be asked: Why cover it at all?
EricWolfborn 1 year ago
By far the best cover I have heard of the song.
ancientalt 1 year ago 3
@ancientalt Wait till you hear the Bobaflex vesion. I am not a fan of theirs, but they played it live on 99.7 the Blitz here in Columbus, Ohio..........Totally Freaking awesome......... They even have the blessing of Paul Simon.
jason1973tl 1 year ago
great version, awesome
shiftblog 1 year ago
hey wait a minute, every version of this song always sounds good! ( torrini, smashing punpkins, etc, etc etc.) do you know why??
It's simple: the song is good itself.
PD.Paul Simon made a great song, a timeless song!
ffnnkk 1 year ago
the original is untouchable but Artocity did a good job
XxjuicebagxX 1 year ago 50
I think I've heard this somewhere before.I didn't know it was by Atrocity.
ChristinaDarkRose 1 year ago
WOOW... increible, es un exelente cover, muchas gracias por compartir.... aunque la original es irremplazable... saludos
hcastelan 1 year ago
who made the original?
hpbigfan4life 1 year ago
@hpbigfan4life Simon and Garfunkel
Pezza29 1 year ago
Fail
666TheVampire666 1 year ago
@666TheVampire666 Your user name is a fail mister Count Von Count. LOL Fucking faggot......... im a player from the north thus making me a Nawfyplaya.. hahahahah bye bitch.
nawfyplaya1234 1 year ago
Un video de música??? esto es una mierda de versión del sound of silence... si quereis escuchar una versión de verdad escuchad la de Nevermore.
domublub 1 year ago
en la descripcion de este video: "es un video de musica" durrrrr huuuuuurr que mierda significa eso???? XDDDDDDDDDDDDD
rajajonconcon 1 year ago
@rajajonconcon
Que es un video de musica...
fenrir007mx 1 year ago
@fenrir007mx ahora entiendo todo mejor =D
rajajonconcon 1 year ago
Heir Apparent's cover is awesome,i think the best.The original seem to be unreachable
Axilleac 1 year ago
I have searched everywhere for the album that this song is on and can't find ANY info on it. I've checked the Watchmen soundtrack and their albums and nothing! Does anyone know where I can find this besides a crappy mp3; I want lossless.
Leonicdragon 1 year ago
@Leonicdragon the album is werk80. It's an album of covers.
Cannybal 1 year ago
@Cannybal AWESOME! Thank you very much!
Leonicdragon 1 year ago
esta cancion se canta en los cielos
ANGIZIA100 1 year ago 2
@ANGIZIA100 or maybe the cauldrons of hell :))
calinux26 1 year ago
the original is the best...but this is good,too ;-)
salatfrau8 1 year ago 2
this is awesome
iTHINKGERMAN 1 year ago
dont really like it, love the original
docBOSS1444 1 year ago
xD nice one :D
Jindra1992 2 years ago
the original is epic, and this one is okay, i dont like all the violins and shit though
cutiekitin88 2 years ago
Whatever...a very nice,beautyfull song and I like it!!
Schimi077 2 years ago
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y r noobs always europeen ??? i want to know pls ty for answering (:
Slipsnob 2 years ago
well if you believe sigmund freud you are a closet racist and you always wanted to have sex with your mother.
oni0017 2 years ago 3
who is sigmund?? thx (:
Slipsnob 2 years ago
Nearly pissed myself reading that :)
iamalan12345 2 years ago
good cover, very good, not that bullshit that Nevermore did, or Smashing Pumpkins...
gooDoctor 2 years ago 2
Nevermore did a great cover, you ass.
Nielpholid 2 years ago 4
Relativity is a great thing...You like Nevermore's cover because you like the genre. I like Atrocity's cover because i love the original song, and it gets close to it. See ya! You Ass!!!
gooDoctor 2 years ago
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Dont know why I got a thumbs down. I guess the truth hurts. Besides i do not see how Americans could even play an instrument. It would require to much effort for their fat fingers to work properly,and can you imagine them trying to keep up on the drums. Probably have a cheeseburger hanging from a string just out of touch in front of them to keep them moving to the beat.
TyskeOrden 2 years ago
Actually, I am a drummer, and we use tacos. I hang them from my 22 inch ride, which looks like a pancake.
In all seriousness, you are dumb. Thats like me saying all Germans walk around with Swastikas on their arm and hitler moustaches. Atrocity's older stuff was good, then when they came out with Werk 80 II that was the worst piece of garbage ever. Hallucinations was probably their best album yet.
decrapitation 2 years ago 2
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KonstantinUb 2 years ago
Damn, gotta love the stick definition on those things, Decrapitation. xD
KonstantinUb 2 years ago
It was Americans that wrote this song :D
Vodianjin 2 years ago 2
LOL omg you comment made my day, i to think the same about americans bunch of lazy fat fingerd rednecks. Not every single 1 of them of coarse just the majority.
card969 2 years ago
The original Paul Simon & Art Garfunkel is legendary.
Gotta say, this gets pretty damn close.
KonstantinUb 2 years ago 3
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it's quite cool
vesper1717 2 years ago
it's quite cool
vesper1717 2 years ago
i absolutely love the original, but this is pretty damn awesome. and i'm american, by the way.
and i doubt all germans are mensa-certified. point being, there are idiots everywhere, it's got nothing to do with nationality.
scotjonesxs 2 years ago 2
awesome
MrSirScarlet 2 years ago 2
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wow this shit sucks major fucking dick. why does everything german have to suck so badly? what a shithole.
lrn2playnub 2 years ago
not everything that is german sucks so badly... yeah there are a lot of shitty musicians in germany but be happy not to know them -.-
SukiBerry 2 years ago
I agree with luispro5, Americans wouldnt know real music if it hit them in the face.
TyskeOrden 2 years ago
i concur. All about european metal. American metal cant compare...i mean sure Lamb of God and dare i speak their name...Metallica *cringes*...are good american metal bands (cept metallica...i hate those assclowns) that people listen to..but if u want real metal...hit up the european bands.
Amadeo2 2 years ago
You realized that Metallica is what your Euro-trash bands grew up listening to? You think Meshuggah, Opeth, or any other amazing European bands wouldn't attest to listening to them growing up?
God, trolls are getting so bad at what they do these days...
Djentsylum 2 years ago
Boybandtallica
infernal6evil66 2 years ago
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gay
Jmonks1986 2 years ago
Atrocity RLZ you yankees try to appreciate something bigger than Britney spears and let studidity down
luispro5 2 years ago
GREAT version!
thanks for sharing
ProyectoEvelyn 2 years ago
Atrocity ♥♥♥ sehr schön, ich liebe diese version... (es war die erste die ich kannte) :D
Malefica911986 2 years ago
Totally crap. Seems like a couple singing in a cheap karaoke kkkkkkkkk
jimxxx666 2 years ago
Is there a difference between cheap karaoke and expensive karaoke? All karaoke is shit.
shadowscion 2 years ago
A wonderful song and cover 5*****
edepit1963 2 years ago 3
One of the handful of GOOD remakes that I've heard
78genocide 2 years ago 28
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How to scrap a song...
Vicshot 2 years ago
for those who think it sucks just dont listen to it and keep your dummy comments...
ThankYOU!
Chris09Akerley 2 years ago
The cover got past the censors. They sucked?
CommanderUTube 2 years ago
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i hate this. it sucks
cutie53146 2 years ago
Couldnt have said it any better, so did u like this song, because i did
ClamChowderWebCast 2 years ago
Awesome.
Angrist1 2 years ago
Well you can say whatever you want, but this cover is rly great one. It doesn't just multiple original one but it brings something new to the great old song.Combination of female and male voices are great addition, and also a music.
All in all this is a very good cover of a fantastic song,I can listen to it again and again. Lyric is amazing.
BerZerK0 2 years ago 3
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excellent work, I sensational!! =)) =))
Jayletal1 2 years ago 2
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Jayletal1 2 years ago
the old is alot better and im 16 u wat has this world come to can't anyone make there own song anymore
kingjon1107 2 years ago
i dont know what being 16 has to do with anything... im 16 too and yes the world can make there own songs as there doing now.
dontrlycare 2 years ago
i love this remix :)
junfid 2 years ago
This version does a good job of conveying the foreboding of the original while still giving it an original sound. Very good.
Mysticdreamlight 2 years ago 3
This version is quite unique, very well played, it is hard to get such a classic song redone and well in a different genre, so once again amazing job. Very intriguing sound.
orskaxe 2 years ago 6
fuck me running its great
grabyoankles 2 years ago 2
love it
eastbarnet1 2 years ago 5
The number of views have shot up since Watchmen came out...
malathis0 2 years ago 3
Nothing touches the original, but this is awesome, and it's good to see someone putting an original spin on it. Almost every cover I hear of this song lacks any trace of passion or emotion, and this hits the nail on the head.
OldUnkieAl 2 years ago 45
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MFUnderGround 2 years ago
Thats an awesome cover band.
Anonymous9p21 2 years ago 7
EPIC!!
IronOG 2 years ago 5
Great Cover!!!!
Antharios 2 years ago 7
i ike it at least its not like the smashing pumpkins cray version
merpepper 2 years ago 6
Love this version but I cant find a copy anywhere, anyone got an mp3 they could send me? itd be greatly appreciated
Shojappy 2 years ago 3
same :)
RobertR95 2 years ago 2
send me your e-mail address and i can send it to you ;)
tista93 2 years ago
omg my brother and I used to sing this all the time I missed this :D And yes the original is awesome as well.
angelofmusic1990 2 years ago 3
Hear my words that I might teach you,
Take my arms that I might reach you.
But my words like silent raindrops fell,
And echoed
In the wells of silence....
:)))
dzsozue 2 years ago 3
Beautiful.
NeptuneOfTheSeas 2 years ago
nice edition
DespoinisPantoflitsa 2 years ago
nah it sounds cool
BerSerKer2k8 2 years ago
thats not nice!
its such a great song,but this version is very bad!
cryingangel08 2 years ago
beautiful song, normally the really great metal bands make good covers and defineletly respect the original one
wichiin 2 years ago 4
p.s. the original is still untouchable :)
seinflodder 2 years ago 26
try to search "emanuela torrini sound of silence" ;)
Allow75 2 years ago
of course but this is a pretty decent cover.
wiimancj 2 years ago
i like that "aggressive" background, heared the cover in watchmen but i think it has a potion of voices that wont get into the recall of american idol :D
but it's still a nice idea to reinvent that song which is really hard to cover without changing it's overall style
seinflodder 2 years ago
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this cover of simon and garfunkel is the worst i've ever heard...
rainyday516 2 years ago
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why do you listen to such shitty music? why do you like dick so much? questions that can never be answered
mayhem1030 2 years ago
Wow. You really are an idiot, huh? And if your'e goint to answer a question with a question, at least make sure they aren't stupid 'desperately trying to insult people' questions. It only makes you look dumber.
Also, BNobez has a point. You get straight A's and can't type right?
Somebody's a liar~!
And you don't have to be such a troll. Stop flaming people for the music they listen to.
Neenjakudo 2 years ago 3
it was a typo asshole
mayhem1030 2 years ago
You must type extremely fast, then. So, does this wrap up this friendly little debate?
Neenjakudo 2 years ago
hahahaha xD no typo can cover your stupidity xD
WhitesnakeRnR 2 years ago
The question is why are you here if this is so shitty...the answer to your second question is because it tastes good.
shadowscion 2 years ago 2
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Omg, ppl plz leave your fairytale-fanboy-attitude and go listen to the original tune. Maybe Atrocity is a great band for you, I don't care, maybe it really is, but every cover should be done with 'the-best-i-can' attitude, as a tribute. Imho this... this is an insult to Simon & Garfunkel.
CharonPL 2 years ago
no it is not... tis is a tribute to them... and tribute means respect, if you don't have dictionary handy... so stfu....
WhitesnakeRnR 2 years ago 6
It's different, tha's all. I like it, but i never really listened to simon and garfunkel. Not My gen. This is a good song on it's own. But respect should be given to the original.
DaMarsBar 2 years ago 6
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very poor cover of a great song!
hamidmushtaq 2 years ago
Metal has many faces.........3.8999/5
FedoreE 2 years ago 2
Can anyone find a guitar tab of this? I've tried with no success.
Trialbystone17 2 years ago
Great job on this one
Chuffon 2 years ago 3
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notangel932 2 years ago
This interesting but the band that influenced me with there interesting technical death metal were did they go its a shame.
grevlar 2 years ago
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this song sucks asshole. so does the original. i wanna puke when i hear this bullshit. nevermores is awesome this is shit
mayhem1030 2 years ago
I think that there is not as much emotion as in the original, but the original needed more music, and Atrocity understood it and made somehow a great remix of this song. Maybe if the song would have been on the same beat at when it starts it would have been better, but it's still very nice.
HororKodStudio 2 years ago 2
personally i think its great. as good as the original
Dogers101 2 years ago 12
Normally I'd call this cover version blasphemy but somehow I like it. The lyrics fit to this darker metal version.
goldenheart96 2 years ago 3
yea its better then the rest thats for sure
oberonfamily 2 years ago