wide is the gate says the bible and sadly many people follow these preachers who are at the head of these churches like choiceforchrist,and as a result are led to destruction!
AND THE WORD SPIRIT IS TALKINGA BOUT THE BREATH OF LIFE NOT SOME ITTY BITTY GHOST THERE HEATHEN. THE SPIRIT OR BREATH OF LIFE FROM GOD IS IN MANS NOSTRILS IF YOU THINK THAT THE SPIRIT IS A TINY GHOST ,WHAT WOULD IT BE DOING HANGING OUT IN OUR NOSE!!!
"The bible is very, very clear that the souls or every person, does NOT die!" YOU STATED. what SATAN SAID "thou shall not surely die" it sounds to me like you,ve taken satans side! you die kapoot all gone,knowbody goes anywhere there HEATHEN til jesus returns!
HOW can the dead be condemned if their dead and cease to exist - nor - can the ungodly who die be judged by God, if they cease to exist!!!
After Jesus Christ, died and defeated the cross, He went "down and preached to the dead.." (1 Peter 4:1-6)
The bible is very clear that our fleshly bodies perish, but our spirit lives forever! - A person's "choice" whether to reject, or accept, God's free gift to us: Salvation through Jesus Christ, dictates where they will WILLINGLY spend eternity!
They cease to exist but that's what the resurrection is for!
They are condemned, meaning, they WILL NOT inherit Eternal Life. God will not torture ANY person for an eternity.
Also, the scripture of 1 Peter 4 does NOT say Jesus preached to the dead. It means He preached to the SPIRITUALLY dead. There is no mention of "Hell" or anything in these parts of scriptures. You are trying to fit the scripture where it doesn't belong.
Christians; READ (Reveations 14:6-13) & (Revelations 20:7-15) These 2 passages are NOT hard to understand. The bible is very, very clear that the souls or every person, does NOT die! In the OT we have a true teaching that a human is reffered to as a "soul = blood" in OT meaning "life" or the "the life of a man is in his soul [blood]-Genesis
With OT and NT Hebrew & Greek: The defintions of Hell, Sheol, Hades, Gehanna, Lake of Fire; can mean GRAVE or ETERNAL TORMENT Study the meaning of passages!
None of those words mean Eternal Torment at all, study them again.
To believe a person has an immortal soul is a form of idolatry, and a lie. NO ONE lives forever without God's gift of Eternal Life. Physically or spiritually.
You also contradict yourself. You state that the soul = blood, yet you say a person cannot die. However, we know that if a person does loose too much blood, they DO die. Which is it?
"And the streams thereof shall be turned into pitch, and the dust thereof into brimstone, and the land thereof shall become burning pitch. It shall not be quenched night nor day; the smoke thereof shall go up forever: from generation to generation it shall lie waste; none shall pass through it for ever and ever."
This scripture speaks of a land called Edom. Is it STILL burning today? It uses the very same language as the verses you quote.
Do yourself a favor and look up Roger Morneau. He is a great person who can tell you the truth regarding this subject and many others. He was apart of a high ranking satanic group turned Christian.
And I agree with you, the Bible IS very clear on this subject, but it's not leaning in the direction you think. There is NO biblical basis for Eternal Torment AT ALL. Nor of an "Immortal Soul".
@Choice4Christ Jesus spoke in parables throughout His whole ministry. In Matthew chapter 13 we are given seven different parables. No parable is literal or historical. The second we make a parable literal, it ceases to be a parable. Jesus spoke ONLY in parables (not true life or historical stories) among the masses of people who followed Him wherever He went.
you have a body yes at the reurrection,not prior you rturn to the dust of the ground is what the bible teaches,and in that very day your thoughts perish. thoughts and mental activities are the functions of the soul,you have no soul when your dead,therefore you have no soul plain and simple.
Thank you for being critical of this man's story, that's all I asked of my viewers. This man's story is either a lie or fabricated from demonic entities. This is not in the Bible.
@timsh6 Christians; READ (Reveations 14:6-13) & (Revelations 20:7-15) These 2 passages are NOT hard to understand. The bible is very, very clear that the souls or every person, does NOT die! In the OT we have a true teaching that a human is reffered to as a "soul = blood" in OT meaning "life" or the "the life of a man is in his soul [blood]-Genesis
With OT and NT Hebrew & Greek: The defintions of Hell, Sheol, Hades, Gehanna, Lake of Fire; can mean GRAVE or TORMENT Study the meaning of passages!
I cannot believe you are mocking this man. It's easy to be obnxious on the internet. Unless you had the experience he had you are in no position to judge his story.
I am not mocking him, and I can judge the story if I want to. I believe the story is suspect at best and I am going to voice my concerns, so that others will not be duped by this false vision.
As a Christian, it is my duty to judge an experience like this. Your attitude will get you falling for anything out there.
Christians need to quit being so soft and quit being afriad to judge others experiences. I dont deny this happened to Bill Weise, I believe it did. What I dont believe is that it came from God. It is purely from a demonic source. That is obvious logically and Biblically.
And no matter what you say, I am in a position to judge this mans experience. I dont care what you say on the matter.
This man isn't scripturally accurate at all. This mans experience is suspicious at best.
Only someone overcome with bias as to what they THINK scripture actually says will believe this man to the utmost.
There is no biblical evidence of a place of torment, and even if there was, no one would be able to take a "trip" there and come back. It makes no logical sense, and it makes no sense biblically either.
I'm sorry, but I have to disagree. I think this testimony of hell is true.
I don't believe every testimony of a person experiencing hell is true, but I think Bill Wiese does a fine job of backing up his points with scripture. If you get a change to watch his other videos, you'll see he does a fine job corresponding his experiences with scripture.
The Spirit has given me very strong convictions about false preachers before, such as Todd Bently. But I truly think Bill Wiese is legit.
Where in the Bible does it say that demons torment people in hell? Does not the Bible say that people get there punishment after judgment? Does not the Bible teach that the wages of sin is death? And where in the Bible does it say when God created hell?
If we go by the Bible it seems clear that the wicked get destroyed in the lake of fire. I must say though, if this guy is not telling the truth then he is very brave lol
"And IN HELL he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom. And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I AM TORMENTED IN THIS FLAME. ~ Luke 16: 23,24
"And do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather fear him who CAN DESTROY BOTH BODY AND SOUL IN HELL. ~ Matthew 10: 28
And yes God can destroy both soul and body in hell. Look up the word destroy in the dictionary and see what it means. I doubt the word torment will come up. The wages of sin is death. Death means absence of all life. Look up the word death in the dictionary and see what you find.
"Then death and Hades were thrown into the LAKE OF FIRE. The LAKE OF FIRE is the second death. If anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was THROWN INTO THE LAKE OF FIRE." ~ Rev. 20: 14,15
"But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars—THEIR PLACE WILL BE IN THE FIERY LAKE OF BURNING SULFUR. This is the second death." ~ Rev. 21: 8
My friend, I mean you no offense. I just want you and all Christians to be scripturally accurate. To deny that hell is a literal place of torment that "burns will sulfur" is to deny dozens of straight-forward scriptures.
And scriptures can be taken out of context. There are more scriptures that support the wicked being destroyed in the lake of fire. I have researched this over and over
@timsh6 HOW can the dead be condemned if their dead and cease to exist, nor can the ungodly who die be judged by God, if they cease to exist?
After Jesus Christ died and defeated the cross, He went "down and PREACHED TO THE DEAD" (1 Peter 4:1-6)
The bible is VERY CLEAR that our fleshly bodies perish, but our spirit lives forever! - A person's "choice" whether to reject, or accept, God's free gift to us: Salvation through Jesus Christ, dictates where they will WILLINGLY spend eternity!
"Then he said, I pray thee therefore, father, that thou wouldest send him to my father's house: for I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment." ~ Luke 16: 27, 28
Conclusion: If the rich man (who is being depicted as tormented) is requesting that he can go tell his brothers about "this place of torment", then his brothers must still be alive. Therefore, there are those who are in hell right now, as some of us still live.
The rich man and Lazarus is a parable. If we are to take it literaly then does that mean people in paradise can talk to people in torments? Do you think a drop of water is going to cool the rich mans tongue? If the rich man was literaly burning do you think he would be able to talk?
I have studied the meaning to this parable. SAdly many christians take it as a real event and that it's not symbolic.
Good try, very good. But most dont listen to reason. A lot of people actually believe that being THROWN INTO a lake burning with sulfur is being tormented forever.
Yet, NOWHERE does it say such a thing. He wont listen.
I know. I mean would these scriptures make any sense if the unsaved were burned for eternity:
For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son that whoever believes in Him should not have everlasting life in hell fire but have everlasting life
For the wages of sin is eternal life in hell fire, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord
Now, I'm not accusing you of being argumentative, but please don't start arguing me. I'm not going to reply if you insist on starting an argument.
I don't feel the need to defend my position on those scriptures, because I believe the scriptures should be taken as literally true. Therefore, I'll let the scriptures speak for themselves.
Many things do not add up properly about this man's experience. I think he is sincere and I think he experienced something along that line... but I am sure he had 'someone' feed him mixed lies and truth while in this nightmare. And God does not mix in lies. Reminds me of so many UFO abductee stories that are again I believe demonic encounters.
"Even some of my own people do not believe in hell". Then Jesus did not say this because his own people all believe in hell. The Word of God has more to say about hell than it even does about heaven. Many things do not add up properly about this man's experience.
wide is the gate says the bible and sadly many people follow these preachers who are at the head of these churches like choiceforchrist,and as a result are led to destruction!
timsh6 1 year ago
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AND THE WORD SPIRIT IS TALKINGA BOUT THE BREATH OF LIFE NOT SOME ITTY BITTY GHOST THERE HEATHEN. THE SPIRIT OR BREATH OF LIFE FROM GOD IS IN MANS NOSTRILS IF YOU THINK THAT THE SPIRIT IS A TINY GHOST ,WHAT WOULD IT BE DOING HANGING OUT IN OUR NOSE!!!
timsh6 1 year ago
"The bible is very, very clear that the souls or every person, does NOT die!" YOU STATED. what SATAN SAID "thou shall not surely die" it sounds to me like you,ve taken satans side! you die kapoot all gone,knowbody goes anywhere there HEATHEN til jesus returns!
timsh6 1 year ago
OH REALLY!BETTER READ IT AGAIN !
timsh6 1 year ago
HOW can the dead be condemned if their dead and cease to exist - nor - can the ungodly who die be judged by God, if they cease to exist!!!
After Jesus Christ, died and defeated the cross, He went "down and preached to the dead.." (1 Peter 4:1-6)
The bible is very clear that our fleshly bodies perish, but our spirit lives forever! - A person's "choice" whether to reject, or accept, God's free gift to us: Salvation through Jesus Christ, dictates where they will WILLINGLY spend eternity!
Choice4Christ 1 year ago
@Choice4Christ
They cease to exist but that's what the resurrection is for!
They are condemned, meaning, they WILL NOT inherit Eternal Life. God will not torture ANY person for an eternity.
Also, the scripture of 1 Peter 4 does NOT say Jesus preached to the dead. It means He preached to the SPIRITUALLY dead. There is no mention of "Hell" or anything in these parts of scriptures. You are trying to fit the scripture where it doesn't belong.
Sorry bud, you dont have immortality.
JudgeEden 1 year ago
Christians; READ (Reveations 14:6-13) & (Revelations 20:7-15) These 2 passages are NOT hard to understand. The bible is very, very clear that the souls or every person, does NOT die! In the OT we have a true teaching that a human is reffered to as a "soul = blood" in OT meaning "life" or the "the life of a man is in his soul [blood]-Genesis
With OT and NT Hebrew & Greek: The defintions of Hell, Sheol, Hades, Gehanna, Lake of Fire; can mean GRAVE or ETERNAL TORMENT Study the meaning of passages!
Choice4Christ 1 year ago
@Choice4Christ
None of those words mean Eternal Torment at all, study them again.
To believe a person has an immortal soul is a form of idolatry, and a lie. NO ONE lives forever without God's gift of Eternal Life. Physically or spiritually.
You also contradict yourself. You state that the soul = blood, yet you say a person cannot die. However, we know that if a person does loose too much blood, they DO die. Which is it?
JudgeEden 1 year ago
@Choice4Christ
Isaiah 34:9,10
"And the streams thereof shall be turned into pitch, and the dust thereof into brimstone, and the land thereof shall become burning pitch. It shall not be quenched night nor day; the smoke thereof shall go up forever: from generation to generation it shall lie waste; none shall pass through it for ever and ever."
This scripture speaks of a land called Edom. Is it STILL burning today? It uses the very same language as the verses you quote.
JudgeEden 1 year ago
@Choice4Christ
Do yourself a favor and look up Roger Morneau. He is a great person who can tell you the truth regarding this subject and many others. He was apart of a high ranking satanic group turned Christian.
And I agree with you, the Bible IS very clear on this subject, but it's not leaning in the direction you think. There is NO biblical basis for Eternal Torment AT ALL. Nor of an "Immortal Soul".
JudgeEden 1 year ago
@Choice4Christ Jesus spoke in parables throughout His whole ministry. In Matthew chapter 13 we are given seven different parables. No parable is literal or historical. The second we make a parable literal, it ceases to be a parable. Jesus spoke ONLY in parables (not true life or historical stories) among the masses of people who followed Him wherever He went.
timsh6 1 year ago
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you have a body yes at the reurrection,not prior you rturn to the dust of the ground is what the bible teaches,and in that very day your thoughts perish. thoughts and mental activities are the functions of the soul,you have no soul when your dead,therefore you have no soul plain and simple.
timsh6 1 year ago
ANYONE CAN COCOT A STORY TO MAKE MONEY,SHOW ME WHERE THIS HAPPENS IN SCRIPTURE!
timsh6 1 year ago
@timsh6
Thank you for being critical of this man's story, that's all I asked of my viewers. This man's story is either a lie or fabricated from demonic entities. This is not in the Bible.
JudgeEden 1 year ago
@timsh6 Christians; READ (Reveations 14:6-13) & (Revelations 20:7-15) These 2 passages are NOT hard to understand. The bible is very, very clear that the souls or every person, does NOT die! In the OT we have a true teaching that a human is reffered to as a "soul = blood" in OT meaning "life" or the "the life of a man is in his soul [blood]-Genesis
With OT and NT Hebrew & Greek: The defintions of Hell, Sheol, Hades, Gehanna, Lake of Fire; can mean GRAVE or TORMENT Study the meaning of passages!
Choice4Christ 1 year ago
I cannot believe you are mocking this man. It's easy to be obnxious on the internet. Unless you had the experience he had you are in no position to judge his story.
drjackflash 1 year ago
@drjackflash
I am not mocking him, and I can judge the story if I want to. I believe the story is suspect at best and I am going to voice my concerns, so that others will not be duped by this false vision.
As a Christian, it is my duty to judge an experience like this. Your attitude will get you falling for anything out there.
JudgeEden 1 year ago
@drjackflash
Christians need to quit being so soft and quit being afriad to judge others experiences. I dont deny this happened to Bill Weise, I believe it did. What I dont believe is that it came from God. It is purely from a demonic source. That is obvious logically and Biblically.
And no matter what you say, I am in a position to judge this mans experience. I dont care what you say on the matter.
JudgeEden 1 year ago
I believe it. He seems pretty scripturally accurate to me.
V1RU5ex3 2 years ago
This man isn't scripturally accurate at all. This mans experience is suspicious at best.
Only someone overcome with bias as to what they THINK scripture actually says will believe this man to the utmost.
There is no biblical evidence of a place of torment, and even if there was, no one would be able to take a "trip" there and come back. It makes no logical sense, and it makes no sense biblically either.
People need to start thinking more.
JudgeEden 2 years ago
I'm sorry, but I have to disagree. I think this testimony of hell is true.
I don't believe every testimony of a person experiencing hell is true, but I think Bill Wiese does a fine job of backing up his points with scripture. If you get a change to watch his other videos, you'll see he does a fine job corresponding his experiences with scripture.
The Spirit has given me very strong convictions about false preachers before, such as Todd Bently. But I truly think Bill Wiese is legit.
V1RU5ex3 2 years ago
Where in the Bible does it say that demons torment people in hell? Does not the Bible say that people get there punishment after judgment? Does not the Bible teach that the wages of sin is death? And where in the Bible does it say when God created hell?
ArmageddonComingSoon 2 years ago
All the right questions my friend.
JudgeEden 2 years ago
Yes
If we go by the Bible it seems clear that the wicked get destroyed in the lake of fire. I must say though, if this guy is not telling the truth then he is very brave lol
ArmageddonComingSoon 2 years ago
"And IN HELL he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom. And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I AM TORMENTED IN THIS FLAME. ~ Luke 16: 23,24
"And do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather fear him who CAN DESTROY BOTH BODY AND SOUL IN HELL. ~ Matthew 10: 28
Conclusion: God does send the ungodly to hell.
V1RU5ex3 2 years ago
And yes God can destroy both soul and body in hell. Look up the word destroy in the dictionary and see what it means. I doubt the word torment will come up. The wages of sin is death. Death means absence of all life. Look up the word death in the dictionary and see what you find.
God bless
ArmageddonComingSoon 2 years ago
"Then death and Hades were thrown into the LAKE OF FIRE. The LAKE OF FIRE is the second death. If anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was THROWN INTO THE LAKE OF FIRE." ~ Rev. 20: 14,15
"But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars—THEIR PLACE WILL BE IN THE FIERY LAKE OF BURNING SULFUR. This is the second death." ~ Rev. 21: 8
V1RU5ex3 2 years ago
My friend, I mean you no offense. I just want you and all Christians to be scripturally accurate. To deny that hell is a literal place of torment that "burns will sulfur" is to deny dozens of straight-forward scriptures.
Peace.
V1RU5ex3 2 years ago
And scriptures can be taken out of context. There are more scriptures that support the wicked being destroyed in the lake of fire. I have researched this over and over
God bless
ArmageddonComingSoon 2 years ago
@ArmageddonComingSoon AMEN THAT IS WHAT THE BIBLE TEACHES.
timsh6 1 year ago
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@timsh6 HOW can the dead be condemned if their dead and cease to exist, nor can the ungodly who die be judged by God, if they cease to exist?
After Jesus Christ died and defeated the cross, He went "down and PREACHED TO THE DEAD" (1 Peter 4:1-6)
The bible is VERY CLEAR that our fleshly bodies perish, but our spirit lives forever! - A person's "choice" whether to reject, or accept, God's free gift to us: Salvation through Jesus Christ, dictates where they will WILLINGLY spend eternity!
Choice4Christ 1 year ago
"Then he said, I pray thee therefore, father, that thou wouldest send him to my father's house: for I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment." ~ Luke 16: 27, 28
Conclusion: If the rich man (who is being depicted as tormented) is requesting that he can go tell his brothers about "this place of torment", then his brothers must still be alive. Therefore, there are those who are in hell right now, as some of us still live.
V1RU5ex3 2 years ago
The rich man and Lazarus is a parable. If we are to take it literaly then does that mean people in paradise can talk to people in torments? Do you think a drop of water is going to cool the rich mans tongue? If the rich man was literaly burning do you think he would be able to talk?
I have studied the meaning to this parable. SAdly many christians take it as a real event and that it's not symbolic.
ArmageddonComingSoon 2 years ago
Good try, very good. But most dont listen to reason. A lot of people actually believe that being THROWN INTO a lake burning with sulfur is being tormented forever.
Yet, NOWHERE does it say such a thing. He wont listen.
JudgeEden 2 years ago
I know. I mean would these scriptures make any sense if the unsaved were burned for eternity:
For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son that whoever believes in Him should not have everlasting life in hell fire but have everlasting life
For the wages of sin is eternal life in hell fire, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord
ArmageddonComingSoon 2 years ago
One last thing:
Now, I'm not accusing you of being argumentative, but please don't start arguing me. I'm not going to reply if you insist on starting an argument.
I don't feel the need to defend my position on those scriptures, because I believe the scriptures should be taken as literally true. Therefore, I'll let the scriptures speak for themselves.
V1RU5ex3 2 years ago
Many things do not add up properly about this man's experience. I think he is sincere and I think he experienced something along that line... but I am sure he had 'someone' feed him mixed lies and truth while in this nightmare. And God does not mix in lies. Reminds me of so many UFO abductee stories that are again I believe demonic encounters.
ashirly 3 years ago 2
I am glad you caught onto the UFO similarities. I am well aware of those and I was thinking the same things. His experiences are very ridiculous.
JudgeEden 3 years ago
"Even some of my own people do not believe in hell". Then Jesus did not say this because his own people all believe in hell. The Word of God has more to say about hell than it even does about heaven. Many things do not add up properly about this man's experience.
ashirly 3 years ago