The author of this piece is a liar. Dorothy Tillman was an advocate for one to one replacement housing and it was Mr. Black Star Project and Valerie Jarrett who was all about tearing down the housing. ARTISTMAC is WHACK!
@MicChech1 Well, she didn't advocate very hard, did she? Every last Robert Taylor and Stateway Gardens building is gone. Or maybe she didn't have as much power to preserve them as she had wanted us to believe.
The only thing Dorothy Tillman was ever an advocate for was lining Dorothy Tillman's pockets, and that she did very, very well. I hope she's enjoying her retirement, and I hope you have a very nice day:(
You know I was born in '66 in Provident Hospital, lived a few years at 44th and Federal then lived in the Englewood area til '81 then moved to 454 E. Bowen til '83, then returned to 44th street off of King Dr. in '91 across the street from what was I believe an insurance company til '93. In between these gaps I lived in Englewood, South Shore(E.75th str) and from what I see not too many of these alderman were that good(did you see I lived in South Shore? Alderman Beavers?).
You're right, not too many of them did the jobs they were being paid to do. But they kept getting re-elected every four years by the same constituents they were shortchanging, and I can't understand for the life of me why.
Before the great purge of 2007, it either took an indictment or death to get one of them out of office.
That's what I'd like to know. Maybe he knew her from his work as a community organizer. But then, he endorsed "Sales Tax Todd" Stroger, too. He really should pick the people around him more carefully.
it all had to come down, it was one long sad/tragic 30 yr legacy of poverty, crime, and too much murder death and dying, 10,000 books could be written on all the tragedies that went down in those projects
I'm just hoping that the CHA doesn't think that it solved the problem by tearing the highrises down. If highrise living was the cause of what happened, then Lake Meadows, Prairie Shores, South Commons, Sandburg Village, the Gold Coast, North Lake Shore Drive and the CHA's own senior buildings would all be festering slums.
This time around, the CHA needs to be a much more diligent landlord, which will require laying down the law to problem tenants.
artistic, The CHA needs to get OUT of the landlord business altogether, government makes a terrible landlord. The problems of urban America have been with us for decades and are getting worse inspite of all the new yuppieVille developments. 20/20 last night did a special on the "no snitchin" cultural craze in black neighborhoods that is reducing these area's to virtual lawlessness.
I assure you that's not the case in middle-class black neighborhoods, where the residents have the beat cop's cel number when 911's too slow. We worked too hard for our homes to let thugs take over.
Government did public housing just fine in the 30's, 40's and 50's before their focus turned to interstates and the suburbs. And during that same time period, it was private sector landlords who were cutting up homes and apartments into kitchenettes at inflated rents.
Neither private interests nor the CHA give a rat's azz about the former residents of RTH, Stateway, or any other demolished project. This is about profitable downtown real estate and why waste it on ghetto scum? I know that's crass, but that's the attitude I see from the authorities.
This is the absolute truth. I grew up in the fifties in HP, and when we went past the Ida Wells project on the Drexel Boulevard bus, it was like a private housing complex: Trees, lanscaping, white picket fences, NO graffitti, etc.
WOW! Thats a gigantic site! Wonder how long it will take if convention demolition methods were used instead of implosion. Btw,how many blocks were demolished thru implosion? I remember i saw some pics of a few blocks being demolished thru conventional demolition.
The Robert Taylor Homes and Stateway Gardens sites altogether are about 2 1/2 miles long and three blocks wide. Tearing them down the conventional way has taken about 5 years (that's 28 Robert Taylor High-rises and about 10 or 12 Stateway Gardens high-rises). There's only one high-rise left standing in Stateway Gardens, and it's supposed to come down this year.
The author of this piece is a liar. Dorothy Tillman was an advocate for one to one replacement housing and it was Mr. Black Star Project and Valerie Jarrett who was all about tearing down the housing. ARTISTMAC is WHACK!
MicChech1 1 year ago
@MicChech1 Well, she didn't advocate very hard, did she? Every last Robert Taylor and Stateway Gardens building is gone. Or maybe she didn't have as much power to preserve them as she had wanted us to believe.
The only thing Dorothy Tillman was ever an advocate for was lining Dorothy Tillman's pockets, and that she did very, very well. I hope she's enjoying her retirement, and I hope you have a very nice day:(
flamingvans 1 year ago
You know I was born in '66 in Provident Hospital, lived a few years at 44th and Federal then lived in the Englewood area til '81 then moved to 454 E. Bowen til '83, then returned to 44th street off of King Dr. in '91 across the street from what was I believe an insurance company til '93. In between these gaps I lived in Englewood, South Shore(E.75th str) and from what I see not too many of these alderman were that good(did you see I lived in South Shore? Alderman Beavers?).
cjjaxxon 3 years ago
You're right, not too many of them did the jobs they were being paid to do. But they kept getting re-elected every four years by the same constituents they were shortchanging, and I can't understand for the life of me why.
Before the great purge of 2007, it either took an indictment or death to get one of them out of office.
artistmac 3 years ago
The people they shortchanged probably didn't bother to vote.
mel2000 3 years ago
True, true, true.
artistmac 2 years ago
Why did Barack Obama support the gun-waving, reparations-demanding, corrupt Dorothy Tillman for re-election?
eksdem 3 years ago
That's what I'd like to know. Maybe he knew her from his work as a community organizer. But then, he endorsed "Sales Tax Todd" Stroger, too. He really should pick the people around him more carefully.
artistmac 3 years ago
oh well
colleenjennyeddie 4 years ago
I totally agree with your post, you have a lot of well balanced knowledge of the urban landscape.
tookfirst 4 years ago
it all had to come down, it was one long sad/tragic 30 yr legacy of poverty, crime, and too much murder death and dying, 10,000 books could be written on all the tragedies that went down in those projects
tookfirst 4 years ago
I'm just hoping that the CHA doesn't think that it solved the problem by tearing the highrises down. If highrise living was the cause of what happened, then Lake Meadows, Prairie Shores, South Commons, Sandburg Village, the Gold Coast, North Lake Shore Drive and the CHA's own senior buildings would all be festering slums.
This time around, the CHA needs to be a much more diligent landlord, which will require laying down the law to problem tenants.
artistmac 4 years ago
artistic, The CHA needs to get OUT of the landlord business altogether, government makes a terrible landlord. The problems of urban America have been with us for decades and are getting worse inspite of all the new yuppieVille developments. 20/20 last night did a special on the "no snitchin" cultural craze in black neighborhoods that is reducing these area's to virtual lawlessness.
tookfirst 4 years ago
I assure you that's not the case in middle-class black neighborhoods, where the residents have the beat cop's cel number when 911's too slow. We worked too hard for our homes to let thugs take over.
Government did public housing just fine in the 30's, 40's and 50's before their focus turned to interstates and the suburbs. And during that same time period, it was private sector landlords who were cutting up homes and apartments into kitchenettes at inflated rents.
artistmac 4 years ago
Neither private interests nor the CHA give a rat's azz about the former residents of RTH, Stateway, or any other demolished project. This is about profitable downtown real estate and why waste it on ghetto scum? I know that's crass, but that's the attitude I see from the authorities.
SweetSweetWaldo 4 years ago
This is the absolute truth. I grew up in the fifties in HP, and when we went past the Ida Wells project on the Drexel Boulevard bus, it was like a private housing complex: Trees, lanscaping, white picket fences, NO graffitti, etc.
boazrg 3 years ago
WOW! Thats a gigantic site! Wonder how long it will take if convention demolition methods were used instead of implosion. Btw,how many blocks were demolished thru implosion? I remember i saw some pics of a few blocks being demolished thru conventional demolition.
jakelee16 5 years ago
The Robert Taylor Homes and Stateway Gardens sites altogether are about 2 1/2 miles long and three blocks wide. Tearing them down the conventional way has taken about 5 years (that's 28 Robert Taylor High-rises and about 10 or 12 Stateway Gardens high-rises). There's only one high-rise left standing in Stateway Gardens, and it's supposed to come down this year.
artistmac 5 years ago