Very interesting video! However, I think people seeking behavioral help should be diagnosed in order to receive services accordingly. For instance, whenever i go to the doctor, i present my symptoms and the doctor treats me according to my symptoms. Same thing with presenting behavior issues..... Just a though.
This video is hype! Just because you cannot 'see' something doesn't mean it isn't real. The mental health field is full of good and bad just like everything else. The DSM is a tool to use to give systematic criteria and vocabulary to those in the field so everyone is on the same 'page'. This video is truly a disservice. Any subject can be distorted given the correct camera angle and suspenseful music.
What a Fraud!! Psychiatry and social sciences must be removed from school curiculums. I have submitted material to the superior court of britain 1st stage to international for privat and public removal and damages for being victim to genital volition type nazziiism. a. lainsley and the secretary for education in britain will be dxefendants pending more material to supplicate. The xase though has been accepted.
@SCHUSEIN so not only psychiatrists but also psychologists wouldn't exist and people with real disorders like anorexia, depression or schizophrenia, to name a few, wouldn't get treatment? D= or how?? D=
CCHR you are doing a great job answering/ responding to people's comments! Thanks for your videos & brochures & work. MY FRUSTRATION IS THAT IT DOES NOT SEEM TO CAUSE A DENT IN THE EVIL SYSTEM! I wonder how we can warn the public in general and mobilise them to get all these toxic drugs & destroy them publically. And how we can mobilise doctors & politicians, judges & media? Are all so BRAINWASHED BY THE faculties/ studies they did, conditioned to see no evil, hear no evil, speak no truth?
WHY DO I HAVE TO BELIEVE THAT THESE PEOPLE IN THE STREETS WHO SAID THAT THEY ARE PSYCHIATRISTS AND PSYCHOLOGISTS IN THE VIDEO....ARE REAL AND NOT JUST SOME ACTORS ?
It isn't very reliable how every psychiatrist they talked to was on the streets... looks like they told random people to say those lines lol (as if they traveled to Germany to track someone down and then instead of going to their office flag them in the middle of the street)
These video interviews were made at an international conference of psychiatrists. The film crew stopped and interviewed attendees as they were arriving or leaving the conference.
I am wondering if the creator of the video has ever know or even met someone with schizophrenia? Yes, psychiatry along with many other medical professions, has become skewed by money (profit); But to jump to the conclusion that there is no such thing as mental illness seems and like poor judgement not to mention what your own pathology must be on the subject.
@44mccarthy84 i agree in the sense that medication can dramatically inprove a persons life style for the better, but as the guy says mental illness does not exist in nature, its not physical as it is do to with the mind; its fabricated in the sense that psychiatrists formulate the notion of mental illness by constructing set characteristics to determine a 'label'- it doesnt exist the way cancer does, there is no trace of it as such, but of course its important to address 'issues' if needed
Provided it was an inventon, how can you explain the noticeable state of discomfort given in people who may be suffering one of the illnesses mentioned in the dsm4? And how can you interpret the possitive effect that some drugs exert over this psychological state? We could say that some of these syptoms may not be an alarm of any mental illness but still the discomfort remains in the person; so, the problem is still there. Maybe we shoud reconsider the purposes of applying a specific treatment.
CCHRint, let me ask you this. If an individual is suffering from severe CLINICAL depression, should the docs not inform them that there are treatment options available? Is that a humane thing to do? I do think that all people who have these issues should be informed about the risks and benefits of treatment, and it should be done on a voluntary basis.
@Jibjub1980 The word "clinical" depression simply means that someone meets a list of written (not medical) criteria for being depressed. But to answer your question, absolutely people should be given all available options but moreover, given the facts that a diagnoses of depression is not a medical diagnoses. Its a psychiatric checklist diagnoses. That's not to say people don't get depressed. Its to say it is not a brain disease requiring drugs.
@Jibjub1980 There hasnt been a single person in history, that was "cured" of depression thanks to drugs. Not one. Unless you consider sedating someone a cure.
Bipolar disorder and depression are linked with each other. If you have one, you usually will have the other. All of those depression medications (I am a pharmacy tech working my way through college as a Psych major) effect people differently but are all used to treat the same thing. Usually if you have side-effects they move you to the another medication that works best for you. He didn't get different diagnosis, they were pretty much in the same ball park, just worded a little differently.
@pixielove1992 thats true, most conditions are co-morbid and the amount of medication prescribed with no real proof is worrying. like wheres the cut-off point for drugs? like with the bipolar disorder lithium is commonly prescribed and depression its something else, often the same for anti-anxiety such as betablockers or whatever. my background on medication is poor and im not pretending to know about it, but if co-mordity is an issue how must that person be treated?
If psychiatry is science, then how come so many of it's mental disorders are sins in abrahamic religion? Suicide and self harm are forbidden in the torah, transexualism, narscissism greed, anger can be cosnidered a sin, and the ;list goes on. No pysch could ever prove a behaviour is abnormal. That is an opinion, which various from one person to the next. Behaviours and beliefs are never medically right or wrong. Thats what the 1st ammedndment is about, not forcing your behavioural ideal- cont.
If psychiatry is science, then how come so many of it's mental disorders are sins in abrahamic religion? Suicide and self harm are forbidden in the torah, transexualism, narscissism greed, anger can be cosnidered a sin, and the ;list goes on. No pysch could ever prove a behaviour is abnormal. That is an opinion, which various from one person to the next. Behaviours and beliefs are never medically right or wrong. Thats what the 1st ammedndment is about, not forcing your behavioural ideal- cont.
If psychiatry is science, then how come so many of it's mental disorders a re sins in abrahamic religion? Suicide and self harm are forbidden in the torah, transexualism, narscissism greed, anger can be cosnidered a sin, and the ;list goes on. No pysch could ever prove a behaviour is abnormal. That is an opinion, which various from one person to the next. Behaviours and beliefs are never medically right or wrong. Thats what the 1st ammedndment is about, not forcing your behavioural ideal- cont.
how else would a person who has something they can't control explain what is going on with him or her? How can people be so ignorant? How do they explain why some prople commit suicide? How do they explain why some people are always on fast foward and just can't seem to focus? how do they explain the changes in the brain and depending on where the change is located, how do they explain the difference in the behavior of a normal brained perosn, someone who can function in society w/o meds?
This video is just 10 minutes of unsubstatiated claims and views of 'creditable sources. psychiatrists don't go out into the street, diagnosing people against their will in order to make money. Patients initially go to the doctor because THEY feel that their is something wrong with them. A lot of disorders might not come from biology, but from traumatic life events and learning, which is complicated to measure in human biology. Do some research before making wild accusations!
I know two of those DX's @ 5:11 & 634 hey are from Ft.Woth Texas....both said exactly the oppiste thing...both billed me $450.00 an hour [I saw them for about 20 minutes]....both are with Baylor AllSaints ....what a trip...glad tp know they have a following....
I know two of those DX's @ 5:11 & 634 hey are from Ft.Woth Texas....both said exactly the oppiste thing...both billed me $450.00 an hour [I saw them for about 20 minutes]....both are with Baylor AllSaints ....what a trip...glad tp know they have a following....lol OH yea quacks.....
This video is not only biased and misleading, it is also dangerous. If one person decides to deal with their mental illness by stopping drugs and hurts themselves or others it becomes a danger. It is hard enough to help schizophrenics, bipolar (especially) due to clients stopping medications. When they quit they become a danger to themselves and others. Disturbing how ignorance harms human lives. Credentials: Social Worker
Actually @buddhahorns what is dangerous is the drugs prescribed (according to the US FDA) documented to cause suicidal and homicial ideation, sudden death, heart attack, stroke, diabetes, and much more... for mental "disorders" that have no scientific/medical validity. Period.
1)All drugs in this country have to be passed through rigorous FDA trials. These trials must prove that such a drug is safe for human consumption or the risk/benefit ratio is high enough that it's alright to market the drug (chemo therapy for instance).
2)The prognosis behind many psychiatric disorders can be supported by million dollar machines (if that makes you sleep at night) such as MRIs, EKGs, etc.
@sinepanigav123 Wow. You really don't know what you are talking about for a biochemist. Name one MRI or EKG that has been proven to verify the existence of a mental disorder. Name one. Because the NIMH, the NIH, and even the APA admit there is no proof of mental disorders as a medical disease, or abnormality. Ask them....
I guess my reply to your comment isn't going to be 'approved,' which is pretty funny because it means you know I'm right. You simply made a general statement to support your videos and get people to jump on the bandwagon (who cares if what's in these videos is true, right?). The sad part is that you won't admit you're wrong. Psychologists, while not in the same field of science as myself, can at least admit they're wrong and continue looking for answers to these problems.
@sinepanigav123 Um...you're the one making general comments unsupported by Science. Like we said, find the conclusive approved MRI or brain scan or chemical imbalance test to prove your theories. They don't exist. And once again, we will point out the AMA, the NIMH, the NIH and the APA all admit there are no medical tests to verify any mental disorder. So instead of giving us rhetoric, tell us why none of the above entities can prove it if in fact your claims are valid. Over and out.
@sinepanigav123 Link to as many "papers" as you want. Papers are primarily ghostwritten by drug companies or universities funded by Pharma - which is what the U.S. Senate exposed. Find an approved test by the NIH, the NIMH, the AMA, or even the APA...doesn't exist. Because there aren't any. Millions have been diagnosed mentally ill, yet none have any lab tests. Why not? Because there isn't one. So "papers" don't mean anything..particularly given the expose on Pharma funding behind them.
I'm sorry, but your argument really doesn't hold any weight, and it's obvious that you're not a scientist yourself(selves?). There is a close relationship between industry and public research because of government funding in the first place, so do your own research. If you're going to say papers don't show anything, then what definitive proof would? Also, you keep referring to the NIMH and the NIH separately, which is redundant because the NIMH is actually part of the NIH.
@sinepanigav123 Sigh. This is getting tiresome. Not because its a great debate, but because you seem unable to grasp the obvious; So here it is. Cite the MEDICAL TEST given to patients that proves they have a mental disorder. And to spell it out for you; A piece of paper does not constitute a medical test. One would think you would realize this if you are a biochemist.
@CCHRInt While I agree that mental illness is overdiagnosed in some people, and psychotropic medication is way overdone, I do need to make some points. Be careful when using words like "prove" and "cause." Are you sure that medicines for depression "cause" people to commit suicide? Could there be a third factor which may be "causing" some people to kill themselves, like the situations for which they were prescribed antidepressants in the first place? The drugs may be CORRELATED with suicide.
@Jibjub1980 Its a valid point. But ask yourself this; if someone on PCP (angel dust) smashed their hand through a window or became violent, was it the PCP that caused it or some innate violent tendency? Most would assume the drug. Why? Because its documented to create such reactions. Same with these drugs; documented by drug regulatory agencies to cause worsening depression, suicide, violence. So you tell me.
@CCHRInt Did the agencies actually say the drugs were documented to 'cause' worsening of depression, or that they were related to suicide? Have you heard that correlation isn't causation? I do not like the drug pushing psychiatrists who prescribe an antidepressant for every little thing, so please don't take what I'm saying the wrong way. I think these drugs are way overprescribed, and some people want quick fixes. But in other cases, antidepressant medication may be warranted.
@Jibjub1980 Are you joking? Go to our website and read all the international regulatory warnings that say exactly that. Not to mention all the studies. Both of which are documented on our website under our psychiatric drug side effects database. Its on cchrint.org and right on the front page you will see the psychiatric drug database and search engine. See for yours cchrint.org/psychdrugdangers/
@buddhahorns LOL What if a person decides to deal with his or her "mental illness" and STARTS a drug and then hurts him or herself? I stopped my drugs (yes, psychotropic meds are DRUGS (you said so yourself)). The reason they become a danger to themselves when stopping the drugs is because these DRUGS produce a severe withdrawal. I'm sure glad you're not my social worker. I don't trust you. I don't trust the pharmaceutical companies. They want money.
Every person that dismisses medication/DSM should live in a mental institution for one day. Let the staff keep medication from the patients and make your own judgment on the validity of medication therapy and mental illness. The information is given in a very distorted way. There is not enough space to point out all the unscientific BS in this tiny space. Nothing like having your life in danger to help see the light. Mental illness is very real. Credentials Social Worker*
i think that they are addicted to the pills if they react violently, and it could be that people have little to no control of themselves, point is, does the pills help?
if there were no pills could these people even function in this world?
Just more overly-opinionated and erroneous allegories from opulent individuals who have no idea what they're talking about. Labeling any of this this as fact is simply absurd.
Wow this video is truely undermining the seriousness of mental illness. Although it shows that it interviews people in the field of psychology. I would love to see the uneditited version of this. I have worked closely with people who have suffered from mental disease or disorder. Just like in all fields there are people who fail to do thier job correctly and abuse the system that depends on them but we do not throw out thekids with the bath water. We correct the system and the corruption.
this is bullshit, Psychiatry is not to be confused with psychology, as in the study of the brain/mental life/functions. effective marketing and pharmaceutical sales shouldn't be confused with effective understandings and treatments discovered from the founders of psychology and all the teachings that helped half of our sick nation.
Psychology is pure Theory(bullshit). People that think otherwise are simply blind or ignorant. My family is deeply rooted in psychology/psychiatry , and this is common knowledge to us as a family.
Interesting fact; the VAST majority of people that study psychology/psychiatry are trying to figure out what is wrong with their self.
When you go to a doctor for the flu or a cold, or a headache does he do chemical tests? As far as I know he asks how you're feeling and how bad it is. Indeed he pops you on his bed and has a feel of your tummy and forehead, but really faking a temperature is the oldest trick in the book. In fact there is empirical evidence for a lot of the psychiatric treatments and disorders. Have you met a severely mentally retarded person? It's difficult to say that they are just as normal as you and I.
the root of all problems, whether considered mental or not is the self-contraction. That self activity is simply an addiction that everyone does. The more that it is does the more damging it is. Please read the dreaded gomboo by adi da found on the interenet
What needs to be understood by the public in regards to Psychiatry is what the outcome is of "treatment". Once a person enters the system, getting them out of the system is very difficult. The drugs are proven to be very addictive and once you are on them, it is very hard to get off. These are the facts. Look at the outcome. What do these "doctors" actually do? "There are no real cures". It's unreal, which is exactly why people have such a hard time believing the total quackery involved here.
the problem is that things are always changing, there is no self...then who am I? Putting a label on yourself or others is assuming people don't change and they do. I feel alot of fear watching this video and hope people realize their personal responsability as physchiatrists and human beings.
im currently preparing for my nursing board exam, as i read through mental health chapters i wonder if i have a mental disorder because i see myself in a lot of these disorder except hallucination. weird because my life seems to be normal. oh and my child seems to fit ADHD but i refuse to medicate her and i think she is improving as i learn differents ways of parenting..
@pnaigie We all can relate to most if not all of the disorders in the DSM, what makes them a disorder however is the fact that it has severely impacted on the persons functioning. We all feel some anxiety when we meet new people, but not to the extent that we cannot do it. A social phobic has physical and psychological reactions to such a situation that actually affect his/her performance.
These people have no idea of what psychology clams to do and offer by mistaking psychologists to believe these disorders are real. All psychological disorders are constructed labels. Hence the DSM is a classing system of abnormal behaviours, by dysfunctions that are atypical and associated with distress, suffering, death, pain & impairment. The causes and most effective treatment of many disorders aren’t known, this doesn’t mean they don’t exist or that people shouldn’t try to help these people.
Hmmm this is a tad biased, I wish it would do both sides of the arguement. I mean when my father had a manic breakdown due to bi-polar disorder that is fake? Is that what this video is claiming? I have problems with this video
people have become convinced that anything that we don't enjoy or is bad for other people is a mental disorder - i.e. feeling anxious, sad, having paranoid thoughts, being aggressive etc... BUT these are completely normal! I do think that in severe cases - yes there's a definite problem - but i think A LOT - the majority- of people are just falsely labelled - and i think at least for some cases its due to innocent psychiatrists just going by the book - literally.
wtf is this video on, this is just from bullshit people who have never had or experienced a mental problem. is this some scientologist propaganda or summin?
you were acting out and don't remember, that's why you had to go to the hospital. you admit sometimes feeling unstable. you might hurt yourself. but hey it's YOUR decision right? thanks dsm and apa!
It's fair to say that editing and clipping frames is well used in this. Let's start by saying that there isn't knowledge for these diagnosis, if you don't start somewhere how are you going to make progress? Let it progress. Secondly, if you say someone doesn't have "Down Syndrome", and they clearly do what would psychology have to say? This is completely asinine. How can these people say that because you "categorize" disorders that your studies are false. This is ridiculous.
@valkaek thats very funny. 2 different people can be diagnosed with schizophrenia without having ANY symptoms in common. what does this say about diagnosing schizophrenia? its the same as being diagnosed with cancer without having cancerous cells. its ridiculous. ok...for some categories there are not grey areas...such as a autism...but for most of the disorders there is no agreement between professionals of what is what. and smart ass...down syndrome is not in the DSM. its not a mental illness
@valkaek thats very funny. 2 different people can be diagnosed with schizophrenia without having ANY symptoms in common. what does this say about diagnosing schizophrenia? its the same as being diagnosed with cancer without having cancerous cells. its ridiculous. ok...for some categories there are not grey areas...such as a autism...but for most of the disorders there is no agreement between professionals of what is what. and smart ass...down syndrome is not in the DSM. its not a mental illness
The DSM-IV-TR is a heuristic device for evaluation that creates a common language among practitioners, researchers, and educators. It is unfortunate that it may be misused or misunderstood by some. Psychology is the youngest of sciences and is clearly still evolving in many directions. It is easy to attack psychiatric drugs, but that only increases stigmatization of those who need them. Maybe they're over-prescribed, but some people wouldn't be able to get out of bed without them.
@adkjunkie the diagnosis however still doesn't rely on identifying an abnormality of the body. Asking someone how they feel isn't the same as examing the body via a test. The chemical imbalance theory is based on no evidence. There is also no way to identify malingerers. But as malingerers happen to also benefit psychiatrists, coercian makes sense as both parties get what they want.
"Mental illness" is not a term used in the DSM-IV-TR. "Mental disorder" is used and is, I think, a more inclusive term because it is not limiting itself to the medical model. The DSM-IV-TR admits that "no definition adequately specifies precise boundaries for the concept of 'mental disorder'" (XXX).
I'd also like to point out that the point of DSM is not actually to diagnose, it is to create shorthands between psychological statisticians, clinicians and psychiatrists. Just because you have a DSM dianosis, does not mean you are sick. Anyone who would believe otherwise is a fool.
The reason it is "statistical" is not to make it sound sciencey it's because it can be used for psychological experiments to determine what group to put a subject in, which would generate the statistics for mental disorders that people discuss. I'm not arguing that they are real diseases, if anything I believe the opposite, however, I think it's disgrace that a professor of psychology would be ignorant to this. I sincerely doubt her work or qualifications are in abnormal psychology specifically.
The reason it is "statistical" is not to make it sound sciencey it's because it can be used for psychological experiments to determine what group to put a subject in, which would generate the statistics for mental disorders that people discuss. I'm not arguing that they are real diseases, if anything I believe the opposite, however, I think it's disgrace that a professor of psychology would be ignorant to this. I sincerely doubt her work or qualifications are in abnormal psychology specifically.
Pardon my language . But holy crap! No wonder the AMA is supporting the healthcare public option. Nice psychological rules that get added in to the government bill to pay these DR's big time!
Though this video proves a lot of the points I try to make about anti depressants, I still believe the "trial and error "methods are just as we are still learning how the brain works. They state there are no tests, but I believe there soon will be. This is how we used to tackle infection, so we shouldn't just scoff at the idea and say it can not be understood or tested.
If there were less categories of illness, poorer shrinks and cheaper drugs would that overcome these objections to psychiatry? I didn't hear any scientific objections just emotional and monetary ones.
what are you talking about? the whole problem is that there is NO science behind these disorders...you missed the whole point...it's a major scientific objection...
Does anyone know more about experiments like ROSENHAN EXPERIMENT? Being a psychiatrist the result of Rosenhan Experiment is a true bitter taste. This experiment is amazing. Not only does it investigate the false diagnosis schizophrenia (I one country, one guy become saint Birgitta even though she had hallucinations, but in psychiatry that is disorder), but also the most incredible discoveries appear after being admitted to the hospital.
So according to this, people with Asperger's are just jackasses... I assume the same is true of its more severe form, autism as well.
Psychiatry is in its dark ages right now. The working of the mind is one of the sciences over which we have the least understanding. I agree that drugs are vastly over-perscribed, but to say that no mental illnesses exist is just stupidity.
I agree with you. The point is not that there is no mental illness at all, but that many people who are generally sane but had some traumatic events in their life are being diagnosed with some strange so-called "disorders" and have to pay a lot of money for the drugs that are supposed to 'cure' them.
Modern psychiatry isn't only about 'science', in fact, it's too ideological.
Actually, and in fact, to say ..."but to say that no mental illnesses exist is just stupidity".... is the real stupidity. FYI: There has never been any etiological evidence of any sort to establish or provide proof of a single "mental illness" being an actual biological disease of any sort. This is well known in medical science. Sadly, the sales and marketing arms of pharmaceutical companies continue to perpetrate one of the most vast and sweeping frauds ever committed in history.
It is a sad state of affairs, but in some ways, psychiatrists aren't to blame because most practitioners are doing the best they can, which unfortunately is not much and primarily based on hit-and-miss pharmaceutical drugs (which are in turn heavily lobbied by the industry of course). The fact of the matter is, cognitive neuroscience--understanding things like emotions and higher brain functions--is about as advanced as chemistry was 300 years ago, when it was called alchemy.
Mental illness does exist. People do get depressed, enraged, and anxious. The problem is that psychiatry is fuel to the fire. Social work and counselors are trained to protect their political party will practice against you, attack you, humiliate you, and shun you if you are of a different political or religious affiliation. The mental health field holds a lot of power of the people and they are often incompetent, ruthless, and evil.
depression and rage and being anxious does NOT mean your mentally ill..it's an emotional and usually natural reaction....and they are usually passing state of mind...that's part of the problem is that everyone in this country now thinks they have a mental disorder when they get angry or anxious and they want a quick fix...they want a pill and people need an excuse...it's not just the psychiatrists fault...it's the average person looking for an excuse...
If you really think mental illness does not exist visit a mental hospital. Do I think psychiatry is a precise science? No. But than neither is most medicine. I think that it suffers in the same was as traditional medicine in that it over diagnoses and over medicates but that does not mean there are not genuine problems. Sure there are plenty of people that should probably just get some more exercise and sunlight and eat right rather than taking pills, but there are real disorders.
If you really think mental illness does not exist visit a mental hospital. Do I think psychiatry is a precise science? No. But than neither is most medicine. I think that it suffers in the same was as traditional medicine in that it over diagnoses and over medicates but that does not mean there are not genuine problems. Sure there are plenty of people that should probably just get some more exercise and sunlight and eat right rather than taking pills, but there are real disorders.
Ah~ Biased videos. I love the stupidity. There's a lot I'd like to say, but I'm sick at the moment. Basically, this video claims psychiatry is fake, and so are its diseases. Psychiatry isn't fake, and not all of its diseases are fake. Not all of them are real, and some are financially motivated, but that doesn't mean they all are. Recognizing that there are metal illnesses is important for the well being of people who suffer from them. Over medicating the population and labeling everyone is not.
It seems that this video does not present a startling discovery but rather a lack of knowledge of the mechanics of psychology. Something that is clinically proven but not scientifically explained does not mean that it isn't true or accurate. It just means that science has not matured to the level of explaining the phenomenon. Meteorology can be just as imprecise. Should it be eradicated as well?
It is not only dangerous to start taking these drugs , it is dangerous to stop them also. You cannot simply stop these drugs cold turkey, there has to be a taper otherwise the withdrawl symptoms come and the people think hes having a relapse when in fact it is withdrawl and more of the drug is prescribed.
Well, it's obvious that you've spent years researching the pros and cons of that, and have delivered a carefully-worded report backed up with research to display your findings to us.
Or maybe you're a teenager who has no experience of any kind of mental illness and the effect that it has on the lives of the people who suffer from them.
There are statistics behind the DSM diagnoses, and studies regarding the genetic links and predisposition to certain mental illness, such as depression, Bipolar, schizophrenia such as twin studies as an example. Also there are brain scans being used by Dr. Daniel Amen to diagnose and study ADHD and by Stanford's Pediatric Bipolar Clinic with Dr. Kiki Chang. Also, psychiatrists are doctors who go to medical school, so they have the same training as any MD.
Genetic, or socially learned? We are social animals, and it's difficult for me to believe that a child raised by parents with a difficulty to cope will raise a kid who knows how.
So does depression run in the family, or is it contagious when your around depressed people all day?
It's all for profit. Besides, ADHD could be dietary, as in refined sugars
Socialworkmom, your points do not validate the existence of "brain scans" and "genetic links" in psychiatric research. Regardless, there's an infinite chasm between psychiatric research and practice. Psychiatrists do not depend on brain scans or any biopsy to diagnose and prescribe. They depend on patient self-reports. That is not scientific.
The mind, however, is an abstract thing. Being "scientific" is not really the point here. They aren't making things up - they are doing the best the can with what they have.
Psychiatrists do not depend on biopsies or brain scans in most cases, because they wouldn't show anything. Just because there is no "depression test" does not mean there is no depression.
Brain science is in its infancy. Thank God that the APA HAS taken the time to collate and categorize the tremendous suffering of so many so that they CAN GET HELP. Without a NUMBER your insurance company could care less that you are SUFFERING.
OBVIOUSLY you can not biopsy schizophrenia. You can not compare apples and oranges and declare oranges a lie because they are not apples.
They are calling it biological but there are no biological indications. Good luck trying to argue it without sounding like you are arguing the existence of God.
"Oh, you can't see the air but obviously it exists!"
Come on, nobody is a dick anymore, they have "Intermittent Explosive Disorder."
Soon stupidity will be known as "Common-Sense Deficiency Syndrome."
It's stupid, baseless of any fact, and out of control.
This movie is sad, because most of the people complaining have pyschology degrees. If they felt that the DSM-IV was phony then ethier A) The words said are taken out of content and edited to fit the purpose of this film or B) They wanted to go to medical school, but aren't good with math and science......so they are bitter.
Regardless if you think the DSM-IV is phony or not, it has helped millions of people and continues to do so. In addition, the evidence is based on scientific research.
you need to develop an in-depth awareness of the different schools of psychology, and their respective facets. psychology does not equal psychiatry. inappropriately simplifying concepts due to laziness and a lack of insight is what is bs.
I agree, quartercherries. This video doesn't prove anything, certainly not that all studies into the mind are bullshit. Psychiatry and the Pharmaceuticals have definitely abused an honourable science for their own profit, and many people of dubious qualifications have cashed in with the creation of new phobias and syndromes to sell books. Psychology, Behavioral and Brain Sciences, and Philosophy are still some of the best methods we have for understanding the human mind.
holy shit!!!!!!!! thats exactly what i thought. I lost interest in this subject after taking a cousre in college. ANYONE can say any dumbass thing they want to and that could become a new theory of psychology. It has no basis and is impossible to prove scientifically.. Things likes skitzophrenia and bi polar are different, but many theories are complete bull shit. Lost total interest in the subject after that class
They did research on witch doctors and psychologists, witch doctors beat them out! had two psychologists, the first guy was WACKO himself, the 2nd implied professionally that I might be correct in my assessment. My friend in college, had an interview between a Schizoid and a Psychiatrist and asked me which was the Doctor and which was the patient, then laughed when I picked the Doc as the patient.
This is just sad. Psychiatry has helped many people, within my family and out. Psychiatry has helped people in my family with full paranoid schizophrenia, and I myself have bipolar disorder. Psychiatry is not phony, it has just become over-marketed just like every other medial field. Brain scans CAN help show whether some people have a mental illness or not, but the fact is, regular medicine started the same way, we just need to give psychiatry a chance to advance and stabilize.
Read Explaining colours to a blind man. Not only will it enlighten many as to what living with a mental illness and chronic fatigue syndrome is like, it also gives comfort to those sufferers who think there is no hope and that they are alone. It is very informative, sometimes shocking but also very funny in parts. All in all, a good read and highly recommended.
These quacks are just like $5 phony psychics. It would be funny, if they didn't have the power to hold people against their will and force poisons on them.
Could all the critics on this thread, list their direct experience of Mental Ilness please?
I'm interested in that which you suffered first-hand particularly. If you have no experience, I'm interested in knowing how you can claim that MI does not exist. I've suffered from depression from 28 years and from a more major illness since 2002. Psychiatry has helped me to recover, so a bunch of Monday morning quarterbacks have very little to say, as far as I'm concerned.
Sir, I see your point but Fight for kids is not trying to stop genuine help..go directly to thier site..there are a shitload of natural treatments that work better than schedule two's or SSRI's. The big push for reform is coming from within the Psychiatric profession itself. :-)
I am so sorry to hear that you have suffered but can you tell me how you were diagnosed? Yes I have studied psychology and psychiatry, written theses etc. You do not mention what your other major illness is and how that is connected to your 'mental illness'. I have no doubt that there is tremendous difficulty in your life and that medication can relieve the symtoms or feelings of despair. Sadly since there are no signs it cannot relieve these. Look over the hedge....
first i was diagnosed as ADD than ADHD, because i was an excitable child, was given stimulants, and than diagnosed as bipoler. later on it was said i could be schizophrinic. i have been give handfulls of different medications that never fixed the behavior. ive only come accross this stuff because i thought surly there are people who must know that it is not me that is the issue it is societies inable to accept difference. in life ppl get upset this is a natural thing to deem it not so is wrong
While I agree that a lot of psychiatrists are just in it for the money, and rarely take TIME to get to know their patients, it's not true that there are no laboratory or scientific tests done in psychiatry and how medication works in the brain. But yeah, I hate all those labels too. I think it's hilarious how, in this video, they have an insurance company worker talking about how psychiatry is draining the people- f___king insurance companies are just as bad!!!
May be it can be a really possibility GUYS, but if your talking about the worst conditions and consecuensses of being medicated, where are your investigations, where is the real average of people who is truelly helped by the medication of drugs for them health
My friend went on prozac, he went up once to see doc. that was it, i left him a message sayin' to write antidepressents into youtube dont know if he did or not, i think i gota keepa eye on him, his ma dont own the internet, you see cus i do, i can know the dangers etc, the truth.
This video is not propaganda it is the true. The DSM is simpy a marketing tool for the drug companies. For fuck sake shyness is now listed in the DSM-V as a mental disorder. The more disorders out there the easier it is into labelling people into believing they are ill and ultimately pressured into using useless expensive drugs.
Cures for cancer exist outside allopatic medicine. I understand the mass ignores this fact because, my friend, that's where misleading propaganda lies. It's lucrative not to share cures and keep people on drugs and believing there propaganda. But psychiatry is another story. A total fraud that have no cure because there's no illness to cure. Psychiatry resembles much more a sinster priesthood than a branch of medicine.
man like theres cures for cancer search for it your being ignorant dont place the burden of proof on other ppl go look and you will find. unless you dont want to find than you wont look. do you think people who make money of expensive cancer treatments would ever release knowledge found that would bankrupt them no there going to
Then, when we look at other common drugs like Prozac, beta blockers (useful for social anxiety, perhaps preventative for PTSD), to say nothing of the currently illegal drugs like cannabis, LSD, for which there ARE legitimate uses, there is a wealth of help people avoid due to lack of funds or prejudice. We can't all afford a week of massage sleeping on a sunny beach, or the perfectly natural holistic lifestyle. So we compensate. Amphetamine is unnatural, but not more than accounting, right?
Look at a simple drug like amphetamine. In therapueutic doses, it helps ANYONE feel better about routine work, perform better on detailed work like accounting, work longer hours with greater stamina. Benzadrine was sold with the breath mints at truck stops in the days when drivers could drive unlimited hours--and caused accidents due to sleep deprivation, not amphetamine intoxication. Dexadrine was a slimming pill. Meth was used by JFK--it's easier to buy at pharm. than sudafed--why?
I'll grant you the DSM is pretty silly. I knew someone who knew someone who sat on one of the committees deciding which diagnoses should go in the book. Like all bored people, they passed notes back and forth and decided on four major categories.
Big Crazy
Little Crazy
Assholes
Creeps
That about covers it.
It still does not mean that psychiatry, psychotherapy, and psychopharmeceuticals do not improve quality of life for a great many people.
they try to give you zyprexa and other drugs that require blood tests because they can kill you after 10 years of zyprexa you start to develope nervous ticks you sway your arms around uncontrolably so what was supposed to help you disables you for the rest of your life
WThere is no doubt that people labelled with schizophrenia do suffer, but at what point have we decided that the problem is in them rather than in the extraordinary circumstances of life, circumstances that all of us have to deal with on a daily basis, but that some of us find untenable?
Psychiatry is a con. Pseudo science. A rip-off. Two things people need: Diet & Excercise. That´s all one needs. A good eating habit and exercise works - drugs don´t.
Make psychiatry history, cheaper healthfoods now!!!
I've never experienced any kind of so-called mental illness but I have always wondered why we have so many people on medication for behaviours. Isn't medication for diseases? Then why do we have millions of people on tablets just because they get a wee bit angry or won't walk on a pavement without having the urge to avoid the cracks?
and btw,.. half those doctors arnt accual doctors at all,.. but anyone wanna argue? get me some names and PHD`s ,.. for all you guys know, this was a collage students movie project,.. and LOOK! MADE BY THE USA! the only contry in the world that STRIVES OFF OF BULLSHITTING PEOPLE
I have to think of who many times I've heard white psychiatrists and their lackies complain about blacks not wanting to basically participate in this field experiment. They blew us off as crazy and not able to pay the fees. Well, like most of what is a "science" in white supremacist america we see through to the bullshit. We've already been traumatized by living in this damned corporation. But then again whites think they are the ones with all the knowledge.
the majority of your disorders are so vaguely defined that the idea of a cure for any of them "is" impossible. even a happy person who was once called bipolar will always have the potential to have a bad day and then they will be labeled again (oh she was diagnosed with bipolar 10 years ago thats why shes so upset today etc...) instead of simply addressing the individual without needing to pigeon hole their entire personality. particularly when other issues are not addressed such as diet etc...
While I agree with you that in some cases in books such as the DSM, disorders can be vague, not relevant, or some missing, the reason many disorders appear that widely and vague, is because every person is unique, their minds operate individually, and no disorder is concrete. It not like a virus, where there can be a specific strain to be identified, but perhaps a cocktail of problems from the person's past culminating in what a Psychologist or a Psychiatrist may diagnose.
Perhaps in the example you used, the bank blew and they slipped back (if this analogy is incorrect, please rectify in your response, its been a while since I heard that lecture). In reality I doubt that they would readily diagnose bipolar without the symptoms reappearing, although without proper data, this remains a matter of opinion. Unless you can link me to a third party study.
PTSSP course is a starting point. obviously there are deep seeded issues but the constant enterbulation of these is the urgent issue. after that auditing removes locks, secondaries and engrams by confronting and duplicating them. when talking about anyones sanity level it is important to realize that everyone has the potential to be a depressed or cranky sometimes a statement which in itself blows the "genetic" link to depression out of the water.
Agitating or disturbing, enturbulation as LRon puts it, can cause stress in people's lives yes, but most people develop coping mechanisms for the majority of it. Bullying or harassment can cause further problems though, which in extreme cases can require counciling, or for Scientology, auditing. Courses that help people learn life skills, perhaps PTS-SP as you may suggest, have great merit in that regard, depending on the cost to that person, and not just in monetary terms.
I mean, yes some of the 'disorders' in there are stupid, like the 'personality disorders', but some, like childhood disintegrative disorder and Tourette's syndrome (*not* a 'swearing disease' - please research fully before saying it's people behaving badly - it's nothing to do with that) are very real and aren't entirely psychiatric/psychological.
I've damaged my neck by ticcing due to Tourette's syndrome. But wait, now I know it's all made up! Of *course* now I see it all. This made up 'disease' isn't due to congenital dodgy neurotransmitters and dopamine, it's made up and I was inventing these symptoms since I was little and guess what - someone somewhere had already invented it and written it down! Oh dear, pipped to the post. Pity I damaged my neck with all this foolish pretending.
Very interesting video! However, I think people seeking behavioral help should be diagnosed in order to receive services accordingly. For instance, whenever i go to the doctor, i present my symptoms and the doctor treats me according to my symptoms. Same thing with presenting behavior issues..... Just a though.
utalitarian1 1 month ago
This video is hype! Just because you cannot 'see' something doesn't mean it isn't real. The mental health field is full of good and bad just like everything else. The DSM is a tool to use to give systematic criteria and vocabulary to those in the field so everyone is on the same 'page'. This video is truly a disservice. Any subject can be distorted given the correct camera angle and suspenseful music.
MikeHoncho27 1 month ago
I disagree with this video. But, I won´t share why.
iamher87 2 months ago
Off course insurance company do not like one more problem of their client, or another medication hill they need to pay!!!!
CyichinC 3 months ago
What a Fraud!! Psychiatry and social sciences must be removed from school curiculums. I have submitted material to the superior court of britain 1st stage to international for privat and public removal and damages for being victim to genital volition type nazziiism. a. lainsley and the secretary for education in britain will be dxefendants pending more material to supplicate. The xase though has been accepted.
SCHUSEIN 5 months ago
@SCHUSEIN so not only psychiatrists but also psychologists wouldn't exist and people with real disorders like anorexia, depression or schizophrenia, to name a few, wouldn't get treatment? D= or how?? D=
Nandanyx 3 months ago
CCHR you are doing a great job answering/ responding to people's comments! Thanks for your videos & brochures & work. MY FRUSTRATION IS THAT IT DOES NOT SEEM TO CAUSE A DENT IN THE EVIL SYSTEM! I wonder how we can warn the public in general and mobilise them to get all these toxic drugs & destroy them publically. And how we can mobilise doctors & politicians, judges & media? Are all so BRAINWASHED BY THE faculties/ studies they did, conditioned to see no evil, hear no evil, speak no truth?
DutchLionFrans 6 months ago
I watched this along with the rest of my first year class of psychology... it certainly caused a stir. Great eye opener.
missamyireland 7 months ago
WHY DO I HAVE TO BELIEVE THAT THESE PEOPLE IN THE STREETS WHO SAID THAT THEY ARE PSYCHIATRISTS AND PSYCHOLOGISTS IN THE VIDEO....ARE REAL AND NOT JUST SOME ACTORS ?
kostasmaiden13 8 months ago
@kostasmaiden13 Why don't you type their names on google and see for yourself......
Desiparth 4 months ago
It isn't very reliable how every psychiatrist they talked to was on the streets... looks like they told random people to say those lines lol (as if they traveled to Germany to track someone down and then instead of going to their office flag them in the middle of the street)
misspolo88 9 months ago
@misspolo88
These video interviews were made at an international conference of psychiatrists. The film crew stopped and interviewed attendees as they were arriving or leaving the conference.
supernova808 3 months ago
I am wondering if the creator of the video has ever know or even met someone with schizophrenia? Yes, psychiatry along with many other medical professions, has become skewed by money (profit); But to jump to the conclusion that there is no such thing as mental illness seems and like poor judgement not to mention what your own pathology must be on the subject.
44mccarthy84 9 months ago
@44mccarthy84 i agree in the sense that medication can dramatically inprove a persons life style for the better, but as the guy says mental illness does not exist in nature, its not physical as it is do to with the mind; its fabricated in the sense that psychiatrists formulate the notion of mental illness by constructing set characteristics to determine a 'label'- it doesnt exist the way cancer does, there is no trace of it as such, but of course its important to address 'issues' if needed
lisamconveyness 8 months ago
Provided it was an inventon, how can you explain the noticeable state of discomfort given in people who may be suffering one of the illnesses mentioned in the dsm4? And how can you interpret the possitive effect that some drugs exert over this psychological state? We could say that some of these syptoms may not be an alarm of any mental illness but still the discomfort remains in the person; so, the problem is still there. Maybe we shoud reconsider the purposes of applying a specific treatment.
Italoarr 10 months ago
Great video! I'll use it in my Abnormal Psych class to start a discussion. Thank you!
belovedideas 11 months ago
CCHRint, let me ask you this. If an individual is suffering from severe CLINICAL depression, should the docs not inform them that there are treatment options available? Is that a humane thing to do? I do think that all people who have these issues should be informed about the risks and benefits of treatment, and it should be done on a voluntary basis.
Jibjub1980 11 months ago
@Jibjub1980 The word "clinical" depression simply means that someone meets a list of written (not medical) criteria for being depressed. But to answer your question, absolutely people should be given all available options but moreover, given the facts that a diagnoses of depression is not a medical diagnoses. Its a psychiatric checklist diagnoses. That's not to say people don't get depressed. Its to say it is not a brain disease requiring drugs.
CCHRInt 11 months ago 4
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pacer91345 3 months ago
@CCHRInt WHAT DO U THINK ABOUT so called TIC DISORDERS??
pacer91345 3 months ago
@Jibjub1980 There hasnt been a single person in history, that was "cured" of depression thanks to drugs. Not one. Unless you consider sedating someone a cure.
FilthyVirus 6 months ago
Bipolar disorder and depression are linked with each other. If you have one, you usually will have the other. All of those depression medications (I am a pharmacy tech working my way through college as a Psych major) effect people differently but are all used to treat the same thing. Usually if you have side-effects they move you to the another medication that works best for you. He didn't get different diagnosis, they were pretty much in the same ball park, just worded a little differently.
pixielove1992 1 year ago
@pixielove1992 thats true, most conditions are co-morbid and the amount of medication prescribed with no real proof is worrying. like wheres the cut-off point for drugs? like with the bipolar disorder lithium is commonly prescribed and depression its something else, often the same for anti-anxiety such as betablockers or whatever. my background on medication is poor and im not pretending to know about it, but if co-mordity is an issue how must that person be treated?
lisamconveyness 8 months ago
If psychiatry is science, then how come so many of it's mental disorders are sins in abrahamic religion? Suicide and self harm are forbidden in the torah, transexualism, narscissism greed, anger can be cosnidered a sin, and the ;list goes on. No pysch could ever prove a behaviour is abnormal. That is an opinion, which various from one person to the next. Behaviours and beliefs are never medically right or wrong. Thats what the 1st ammedndment is about, not forcing your behavioural ideal- cont.
wingsovertheworld3 1 year ago
If psychiatry is science, then how come so many of it's mental disorders are sins in abrahamic religion? Suicide and self harm are forbidden in the torah, transexualism, narscissism greed, anger can be cosnidered a sin, and the ;list goes on. No pysch could ever prove a behaviour is abnormal. That is an opinion, which various from one person to the next. Behaviours and beliefs are never medically right or wrong. Thats what the 1st ammedndment is about, not forcing your behavioural ideal- cont.
wingsovertheworld3 1 year ago
If psychiatry is science, then how come so many of it's mental disorders a re sins in abrahamic religion? Suicide and self harm are forbidden in the torah, transexualism, narscissism greed, anger can be cosnidered a sin, and the ;list goes on. No pysch could ever prove a behaviour is abnormal. That is an opinion, which various from one person to the next. Behaviours and beliefs are never medically right or wrong. Thats what the 1st ammedndment is about, not forcing your behavioural ideal- cont.
wingsovertheworld3 1 year ago
how else would a person who has something they can't control explain what is going on with him or her? How can people be so ignorant? How do they explain why some prople commit suicide? How do they explain why some people are always on fast foward and just can't seem to focus? how do they explain the changes in the brain and depending on where the change is located, how do they explain the difference in the behavior of a normal brained perosn, someone who can function in society w/o meds?
Elkhorngrl77 1 year ago
This video is just 10 minutes of unsubstatiated claims and views of 'creditable sources. psychiatrists don't go out into the street, diagnosing people against their will in order to make money. Patients initially go to the doctor because THEY feel that their is something wrong with them. A lot of disorders might not come from biology, but from traumatic life events and learning, which is complicated to measure in human biology. Do some research before making wild accusations!
jemimab19 1 year ago
I know two of those DX's @ 5:11 & 634 hey are from Ft.Woth Texas....both said exactly the oppiste thing...both billed me $450.00 an hour [I saw them for about 20 minutes]....both are with Baylor AllSaints ....what a trip...glad tp know they have a following....
techslam 1 year ago
I know two of those DX's @ 5:11 & 634 hey are from Ft.Woth Texas....both said exactly the oppiste thing...both billed me $450.00 an hour [I saw them for about 20 minutes]....both are with Baylor AllSaints ....what a trip...glad tp know they have a following....lol OH yea quacks.....
techslam 1 year ago
This video is not only biased and misleading, it is also dangerous. If one person decides to deal with their mental illness by stopping drugs and hurts themselves or others it becomes a danger. It is hard enough to help schizophrenics, bipolar (especially) due to clients stopping medications. When they quit they become a danger to themselves and others. Disturbing how ignorance harms human lives. Credentials: Social Worker
buddhahorns 1 year ago
Actually @buddhahorns what is dangerous is the drugs prescribed (according to the US FDA) documented to cause suicidal and homicial ideation, sudden death, heart attack, stroke, diabetes, and much more... for mental "disorders" that have no scientific/medical validity. Period.
CCHRInt 1 year ago 2
@CCHRInt
1)All drugs in this country have to be passed through rigorous FDA trials. These trials must prove that such a drug is safe for human consumption or the risk/benefit ratio is high enough that it's alright to market the drug (chemo therapy for instance).
2)The prognosis behind many psychiatric disorders can be supported by million dollar machines (if that makes you sleep at night) such as MRIs, EKGs, etc.
Credentials: Biochemist
sinepanigav123 11 months ago
@sinepanigav123 Wow. You really don't know what you are talking about for a biochemist. Name one MRI or EKG that has been proven to verify the existence of a mental disorder. Name one. Because the NIMH, the NIH, and even the APA admit there is no proof of mental disorders as a medical disease, or abnormality. Ask them....
CCHRInt 11 months ago
@CCHRInt
I guess my reply to your comment isn't going to be 'approved,' which is pretty funny because it means you know I'm right. You simply made a general statement to support your videos and get people to jump on the bandwagon (who cares if what's in these videos is true, right?). The sad part is that you won't admit you're wrong. Psychologists, while not in the same field of science as myself, can at least admit they're wrong and continue looking for answers to these problems.
sinepanigav123 11 months ago
@sinepanigav123 Um...you're the one making general comments unsupported by Science. Like we said, find the conclusive approved MRI or brain scan or chemical imbalance test to prove your theories. They don't exist. And once again, we will point out the AMA, the NIMH, the NIH and the APA all admit there are no medical tests to verify any mental disorder. So instead of giving us rhetoric, tell us why none of the above entities can prove it if in fact your claims are valid. Over and out.
CCHRInt 11 months ago 2
@CCHRInt
If you're serious, I would be happy to oblige you. I can link you to hundreds of papers if you think that'll help.
sinepanigav123 11 months ago
@sinepanigav123 Link to as many "papers" as you want. Papers are primarily ghostwritten by drug companies or universities funded by Pharma - which is what the U.S. Senate exposed. Find an approved test by the NIH, the NIMH, the AMA, or even the APA...doesn't exist. Because there aren't any. Millions have been diagnosed mentally ill, yet none have any lab tests. Why not? Because there isn't one. So "papers" don't mean anything..particularly given the expose on Pharma funding behind them.
CCHRInt 11 months ago
@CCHRInt
I'm sorry, but your argument really doesn't hold any weight, and it's obvious that you're not a scientist yourself(selves?). There is a close relationship between industry and public research because of government funding in the first place, so do your own research. If you're going to say papers don't show anything, then what definitive proof would? Also, you keep referring to the NIMH and the NIH separately, which is redundant because the NIMH is actually part of the NIH.
sinepanigav123 11 months ago
@sinepanigav123 Sigh. This is getting tiresome. Not because its a great debate, but because you seem unable to grasp the obvious; So here it is. Cite the MEDICAL TEST given to patients that proves they have a mental disorder. And to spell it out for you; A piece of paper does not constitute a medical test. One would think you would realize this if you are a biochemist.
CCHRInt 11 months ago
@CCHRInt While I agree that mental illness is overdiagnosed in some people, and psychotropic medication is way overdone, I do need to make some points. Be careful when using words like "prove" and "cause." Are you sure that medicines for depression "cause" people to commit suicide? Could there be a third factor which may be "causing" some people to kill themselves, like the situations for which they were prescribed antidepressants in the first place? The drugs may be CORRELATED with suicide.
Jibjub1980 11 months ago
@Jibjub1980 Its a valid point. But ask yourself this; if someone on PCP (angel dust) smashed their hand through a window or became violent, was it the PCP that caused it or some innate violent tendency? Most would assume the drug. Why? Because its documented to create such reactions. Same with these drugs; documented by drug regulatory agencies to cause worsening depression, suicide, violence. So you tell me.
CCHRInt 11 months ago
@CCHRInt Did the agencies actually say the drugs were documented to 'cause' worsening of depression, or that they were related to suicide? Have you heard that correlation isn't causation? I do not like the drug pushing psychiatrists who prescribe an antidepressant for every little thing, so please don't take what I'm saying the wrong way. I think these drugs are way overprescribed, and some people want quick fixes. But in other cases, antidepressant medication may be warranted.
Jibjub1980 11 months ago
@Jibjub1980 Are you joking? Go to our website and read all the international regulatory warnings that say exactly that. Not to mention all the studies. Both of which are documented on our website under our psychiatric drug side effects database. Its on cchrint.org and right on the front page you will see the psychiatric drug database and search engine. See for yours cchrint.org/psychdrugdangers/
CCHRInt 11 months ago
@buddhahorns LOL What if a person decides to deal with his or her "mental illness" and STARTS a drug and then hurts him or herself? I stopped my drugs (yes, psychotropic meds are DRUGS (you said so yourself)). The reason they become a danger to themselves when stopping the drugs is because these DRUGS produce a severe withdrawal. I'm sure glad you're not my social worker. I don't trust you. I don't trust the pharmaceutical companies. They want money.
Gollum0786 11 months ago
Every person that dismisses medication/DSM should live in a mental institution for one day. Let the staff keep medication from the patients and make your own judgment on the validity of medication therapy and mental illness. The information is given in a very distorted way. There is not enough space to point out all the unscientific BS in this tiny space. Nothing like having your life in danger to help see the light. Mental illness is very real. Credentials Social Worker*
buddhahorns 1 year ago
@buddhahorns
i think that they are addicted to the pills if they react violently, and it could be that people have little to no control of themselves, point is, does the pills help?
if there were no pills could these people even function in this world?
what would society do about it?
Kill them?
rufalomm 1 year ago
FUCKING PSYCHIATRIST! ALL NIGHT LONG!
clouddonshore 1 year ago
Just more overly-opinionated and erroneous allegories from opulent individuals who have no idea what they're talking about. Labeling any of this this as fact is simply absurd.
Nelrith 1 year ago
FUCKING PSYCHIATRIST ARE DECIEVERS AND GREEDY FUCKERS
NegroXFile 1 year ago
Wow this video is truely undermining the seriousness of mental illness. Although it shows that it interviews people in the field of psychology. I would love to see the uneditited version of this. I have worked closely with people who have suffered from mental disease or disorder. Just like in all fields there are people who fail to do thier job correctly and abuse the system that depends on them but we do not throw out thekids with the bath water. We correct the system and the corruption.
free2berosalia 1 year ago 2
this is bullshit, Psychiatry is not to be confused with psychology, as in the study of the brain/mental life/functions. effective marketing and pharmaceutical sales shouldn't be confused with effective understandings and treatments discovered from the founders of psychology and all the teachings that helped half of our sick nation.
buddahmaster 1 year ago
Psychology is pure Theory(bullshit). People that think otherwise are simply blind or ignorant. My family is deeply rooted in psychology/psychiatry , and this is common knowledge to us as a family.
Interesting fact; the VAST majority of people that study psychology/psychiatry are trying to figure out what is wrong with their self.
The4LA2Baker0 1 year ago
When you go to a doctor for the flu or a cold, or a headache does he do chemical tests? As far as I know he asks how you're feeling and how bad it is. Indeed he pops you on his bed and has a feel of your tummy and forehead, but really faking a temperature is the oldest trick in the book. In fact there is empirical evidence for a lot of the psychiatric treatments and disorders. Have you met a severely mentally retarded person? It's difficult to say that they are just as normal as you and I.
cindycolemansa 1 year ago
the root of all problems, whether considered mental or not is the self-contraction. That self activity is simply an addiction that everyone does. The more that it is does the more damging it is. Please read the dreaded gomboo by adi da found on the interenet
happygolucky2000 1 year ago
What needs to be understood by the public in regards to Psychiatry is what the outcome is of "treatment". Once a person enters the system, getting them out of the system is very difficult. The drugs are proven to be very addictive and once you are on them, it is very hard to get off. These are the facts. Look at the outcome. What do these "doctors" actually do? "There are no real cures". It's unreal, which is exactly why people have such a hard time believing the total quackery involved here.
BillymanWag 1 year ago
the problem is that things are always changing, there is no self...then who am I? Putting a label on yourself or others is assuming people don't change and they do. I feel alot of fear watching this video and hope people realize their personal responsability as physchiatrists and human beings.
zsalvati 1 year ago
im currently preparing for my nursing board exam, as i read through mental health chapters i wonder if i have a mental disorder because i see myself in a lot of these disorder except hallucination. weird because my life seems to be normal. oh and my child seems to fit ADHD but i refuse to medicate her and i think she is improving as i learn differents ways of parenting..
pnaigie 1 year ago
@pnaigie We all can relate to most if not all of the disorders in the DSM, what makes them a disorder however is the fact that it has severely impacted on the persons functioning. We all feel some anxiety when we meet new people, but not to the extent that we cannot do it. A social phobic has physical and psychological reactions to such a situation that actually affect his/her performance.
cindycolemansa 1 year ago
These people have no idea of what psychology clams to do and offer by mistaking psychologists to believe these disorders are real. All psychological disorders are constructed labels. Hence the DSM is a classing system of abnormal behaviours, by dysfunctions that are atypical and associated with distress, suffering, death, pain & impairment. The causes and most effective treatment of many disorders aren’t known, this doesn’t mean they don’t exist or that people shouldn’t try to help these people.
ClownMouse 1 year ago
People this Zoophillia is a mental disorder too! Its NOT! Its NOT listed in the DSM as such.
Its listed as a harmless paraphillia-ie a FETISH!
Tho for some it IS an orientation and/or a way of life!
But still not a mental illness. Any1 who says they are 'sick' are sick them selves. Of the illness of IGNORANCE!
ace69er 1 year ago
Hmmm this is a tad biased, I wish it would do both sides of the arguement. I mean when my father had a manic breakdown due to bi-polar disorder that is fake? Is that what this video is claiming? I have problems with this video
levee343 1 year ago
people have become convinced that anything that we don't enjoy or is bad for other people is a mental disorder - i.e. feeling anxious, sad, having paranoid thoughts, being aggressive etc... BUT these are completely normal! I do think that in severe cases - yes there's a definite problem - but i think A LOT - the majority- of people are just falsely labelled - and i think at least for some cases its due to innocent psychiatrists just going by the book - literally.
viciouspistols 1 year ago
One of the silly thinking:
If an emtional stress can be relax with an oversea, then it is not a psychological illness calssied in DSM-IV. It is just mood.
So, when not feeling good, buy a air ticket and travel to the Maldive and have a cool drink on a beach. Perhaps with hot girls or cool boys !!! :)
What do you think?
applesweeter 1 year ago
wtf is this video on, this is just from bullshit people who have never had or experienced a mental problem. is this some scientologist propaganda or summin?
lupa559 1 year ago
you were acting out and don't remember, that's why you had to go to the hospital. you admit sometimes feeling unstable. you might hurt yourself. but hey it's YOUR decision right? thanks dsm and apa!
watergallagher 1 year ago
It's fair to say that editing and clipping frames is well used in this. Let's start by saying that there isn't knowledge for these diagnosis, if you don't start somewhere how are you going to make progress? Let it progress. Secondly, if you say someone doesn't have "Down Syndrome", and they clearly do what would psychology have to say? This is completely asinine. How can these people say that because you "categorize" disorders that your studies are false. This is ridiculous.
valkaek 2 years ago 2
@valkaek thats very funny. 2 different people can be diagnosed with schizophrenia without having ANY symptoms in common. what does this say about diagnosing schizophrenia? its the same as being diagnosed with cancer without having cancerous cells. its ridiculous. ok...for some categories there are not grey areas...such as a autism...but for most of the disorders there is no agreement between professionals of what is what. and smart ass...down syndrome is not in the DSM. its not a mental illness
fcaneta 1 year ago
@valkaek thats very funny. 2 different people can be diagnosed with schizophrenia without having ANY symptoms in common. what does this say about diagnosing schizophrenia? its the same as being diagnosed with cancer without having cancerous cells. its ridiculous. ok...for some categories there are not grey areas...such as a autism...but for most of the disorders there is no agreement between professionals of what is what. and smart ass...down syndrome is not in the DSM. its not a mental illness
fcaneta 1 year ago
The DSM-IV-TR is a heuristic device for evaluation that creates a common language among practitioners, researchers, and educators. It is unfortunate that it may be misused or misunderstood by some. Psychology is the youngest of sciences and is clearly still evolving in many directions. It is easy to attack psychiatric drugs, but that only increases stigmatization of those who need them. Maybe they're over-prescribed, but some people wouldn't be able to get out of bed without them.
adkjunkie 2 years ago 18
@adkjunkie the diagnosis however still doesn't rely on identifying an abnormality of the body. Asking someone how they feel isn't the same as examing the body via a test. The chemical imbalance theory is based on no evidence. There is also no way to identify malingerers. But as malingerers happen to also benefit psychiatrists, coercian makes sense as both parties get what they want.
mychar111 1 year ago
@adkjunkie amen to that
qttytn 9 months ago
"Mental illness" is not a term used in the DSM-IV-TR. "Mental disorder" is used and is, I think, a more inclusive term because it is not limiting itself to the medical model. The DSM-IV-TR admits that "no definition adequately specifies precise boundaries for the concept of 'mental disorder'" (XXX).
adkjunkie 2 years ago
I'd also like to point out that the point of DSM is not actually to diagnose, it is to create shorthands between psychological statisticians, clinicians and psychiatrists. Just because you have a DSM dianosis, does not mean you are sick. Anyone who would believe otherwise is a fool.
ihateirony 2 years ago 2
The reason it is "statistical" is not to make it sound sciencey it's because it can be used for psychological experiments to determine what group to put a subject in, which would generate the statistics for mental disorders that people discuss. I'm not arguing that they are real diseases, if anything I believe the opposite, however, I think it's disgrace that a professor of psychology would be ignorant to this. I sincerely doubt her work or qualifications are in abnormal psychology specifically.
ihateirony 2 years ago
The reason it is "statistical" is not to make it sound sciencey it's because it can be used for psychological experiments to determine what group to put a subject in, which would generate the statistics for mental disorders that people discuss. I'm not arguing that they are real diseases, if anything I believe the opposite, however, I think it's disgrace that a professor of psychology would be ignorant to this. I sincerely doubt her work or qualifications are in abnormal psychology specifically.
ihateirony 2 years ago
If you really don't believe that mental illness exists, go onto an acute mental ward. Then you'll shut your mouth
mickey436 2 years ago
The DSM is as reputable and authentic as an "official rules & regulations handbook" for Professional wrestling.
kevinneslund 2 years ago
Will Obamacare cover these pill pushers? Probably. Ron Paul 2012
358Liberty 2 years ago
Pardon my language . But holy crap! No wonder the AMA is supporting the healthcare public option. Nice psychological rules that get added in to the government bill to pay these DR's big time!
johnnyoregon 2 years ago
Though this video proves a lot of the points I try to make about anti depressants, I still believe the "trial and error "methods are just as we are still learning how the brain works. They state there are no tests, but I believe there soon will be. This is how we used to tackle infection, so we shouldn't just scoff at the idea and say it can not be understood or tested.
Nekomesha 2 years ago
If there were less categories of illness, poorer shrinks and cheaper drugs would that overcome these objections to psychiatry? I didn't hear any scientific objections just emotional and monetary ones.
dimbulb23 2 years ago
what are you talking about? the whole problem is that there is NO science behind these disorders...you missed the whole point...it's a major scientific objection...
numshine9 2 years ago
Does anyone know more about experiments like ROSENHAN EXPERIMENT? Being a psychiatrist the result of Rosenhan Experiment is a true bitter taste. This experiment is amazing. Not only does it investigate the false diagnosis schizophrenia (I one country, one guy become saint Birgitta even though she had hallucinations, but in psychiatry that is disorder), but also the most incredible discoveries appear after being admitted to the hospital.
dvdmhn 2 years ago
So according to this, people with Asperger's are just jackasses... I assume the same is true of its more severe form, autism as well.
Psychiatry is in its dark ages right now. The working of the mind is one of the sciences over which we have the least understanding. I agree that drugs are vastly over-perscribed, but to say that no mental illnesses exist is just stupidity.
cartoonheroes87 2 years ago
I agree with you. The point is not that there is no mental illness at all, but that many people who are generally sane but had some traumatic events in their life are being diagnosed with some strange so-called "disorders" and have to pay a lot of money for the drugs that are supposed to 'cure' them.
Modern psychiatry isn't only about 'science', in fact, it's too ideological.
asmodeus585 2 years ago
Actually, and in fact, to say ..."but to say that no mental illnesses exist is just stupidity".... is the real stupidity. FYI: There has never been any etiological evidence of any sort to establish or provide proof of a single "mental illness" being an actual biological disease of any sort. This is well known in medical science. Sadly, the sales and marketing arms of pharmaceutical companies continue to perpetrate one of the most vast and sweeping frauds ever committed in history.
kevinneslund 2 years ago 2
It is a sad state of affairs, but in some ways, psychiatrists aren't to blame because most practitioners are doing the best they can, which unfortunately is not much and primarily based on hit-and-miss pharmaceutical drugs (which are in turn heavily lobbied by the industry of course). The fact of the matter is, cognitive neuroscience--understanding things like emotions and higher brain functions--is about as advanced as chemistry was 300 years ago, when it was called alchemy.
mao12345 2 years ago
Mental illness does exist. People do get depressed, enraged, and anxious. The problem is that psychiatry is fuel to the fire. Social work and counselors are trained to protect their political party will practice against you, attack you, humiliate you, and shun you if you are of a different political or religious affiliation. The mental health field holds a lot of power of the people and they are often incompetent, ruthless, and evil.
dutytocareforothers 2 years ago
depression and rage and being anxious does NOT mean your mentally ill..it's an emotional and usually natural reaction....and they are usually passing state of mind...that's part of the problem is that everyone in this country now thinks they have a mental disorder when they get angry or anxious and they want a quick fix...they want a pill and people need an excuse...it's not just the psychiatrists fault...it's the average person looking for an excuse...
numshine9 2 years ago
what is the goal of this video? To eliminate psychiatry?
kjb57 2 years ago
If you really think mental illness does not exist visit a mental hospital. Do I think psychiatry is a precise science? No. But than neither is most medicine. I think that it suffers in the same was as traditional medicine in that it over diagnoses and over medicates but that does not mean there are not genuine problems. Sure there are plenty of people that should probably just get some more exercise and sunlight and eat right rather than taking pills, but there are real disorders.
brockunc 2 years ago
The reason mental hospitals are scary and the people in them are messed up is because of the drugs thier on...i've been there..
numshine9 2 years ago 3
If you really think mental illness does not exist visit a mental hospital. Do I think psychiatry is a precise science? No. But than neither is most medicine. I think that it suffers in the same was as traditional medicine in that it over diagnoses and over medicates but that does not mean there are not genuine problems. Sure there are plenty of people that should probably just get some more exercise and sunlight and eat right rather than taking pills, but there are real disorders.
brockunc 2 years ago
I have Masturbation disorder.
Where I masturbate on mornings and on nights, yet never during the day, unless I'm depressed.
SirDamned 2 years ago 4
Holy shit, me too. Let's start a support group and find out what sorts of pills we need to pop to cure ourselves.
DeadBirdCitizen 2 years ago 2
Also, I swear this video was created to troll people. It'd explain why so many opposing comments are posted~
fancyshmancypants 2 years ago
Ah~ Biased videos. I love the stupidity. There's a lot I'd like to say, but I'm sick at the moment. Basically, this video claims psychiatry is fake, and so are its diseases. Psychiatry isn't fake, and not all of its diseases are fake. Not all of them are real, and some are financially motivated, but that doesn't mean they all are. Recognizing that there are metal illnesses is important for the well being of people who suffer from them. Over medicating the population and labeling everyone is not.
fancyshmancypants 2 years ago 5
It seems that this video does not present a startling discovery but rather a lack of knowledge of the mechanics of psychology. Something that is clinically proven but not scientifically explained does not mean that it isn't true or accurate. It just means that science has not matured to the level of explaining the phenomenon. Meteorology can be just as imprecise. Should it be eradicated as well?
xjustinxjohnsonx 2 years ago
is this why they call it a practice? cause they are just practising!!
alienevolvedpart3 2 years ago
Come see the suicidal and psychotic patients in any ER who QUIT taking their medicines and then tell me psychiatry is useless.
marksmichaels 2 years ago
It's the withdrawal.
sheLovesG 2 years ago
medicine is great for dealing with the effects,but it isnt a cure
alienevolvedpart3 2 years ago 2
It is not only dangerous to start taking these drugs , it is dangerous to stop them also. You cannot simply stop these drugs cold turkey, there has to be a taper otherwise the withdrawl symptoms come and the people think hes having a relapse when in fact it is withdrawl and more of the drug is prescribed.
whitewidowbeast 2 years ago
mental illness is a way to explain systematic brainwashing to the populace.
Draziom203 2 years ago
Actually, for any psychiatric drug to be approved for use, it has to consistently out-perform placebos.
stratman06 2 years ago
psychiatry/psychology killls. both pseudosciences must be abolished.
Draziom203 2 years ago
I'll pretend I don't have schizophrenia because it's a label, everything will be fine then won't it?.......Give me a break!
EddySteady101 2 years ago
a good point
hverdagsnill2 2 years ago 2
It is time ladies and gentlemen to end the turmoil of the world by eradicating the psychiatric profession.
bwag8008 2 years ago
Well, it's obvious that you've spent years researching the pros and cons of that, and have delivered a carefully-worded report backed up with research to display your findings to us.
Or maybe you're a teenager who has no experience of any kind of mental illness and the effect that it has on the lives of the people who suffer from them.
stratman06 2 years ago
You are wrong. The FACT is there are no statistics .
neodmill 2 years ago 3
This is incorrect information.
There are statistics behind the DSM diagnoses, and studies regarding the genetic links and predisposition to certain mental illness, such as depression, Bipolar, schizophrenia such as twin studies as an example. Also there are brain scans being used by Dr. Daniel Amen to diagnose and study ADHD and by Stanford's Pediatric Bipolar Clinic with Dr. Kiki Chang. Also, psychiatrists are doctors who go to medical school, so they have the same training as any MD.
socialworkmom 2 years ago
Genetic, or socially learned? We are social animals, and it's difficult for me to believe that a child raised by parents with a difficulty to cope will raise a kid who knows how.
So does depression run in the family, or is it contagious when your around depressed people all day?
It's all for profit. Besides, ADHD could be dietary, as in refined sugars
nosferotica1 2 years ago
Socialworkmom, your points do not validate the existence of "brain scans" and "genetic links" in psychiatric research. Regardless, there's an infinite chasm between psychiatric research and practice. Psychiatrists do not depend on brain scans or any biopsy to diagnose and prescribe. They depend on patient self-reports. That is not scientific.
kant616 2 years ago 3
The mind, however, is an abstract thing. Being "scientific" is not really the point here. They aren't making things up - they are doing the best the can with what they have.
Psychiatrists do not depend on biopsies or brain scans in most cases, because they wouldn't show anything. Just because there is no "depression test" does not mean there is no depression.
Carmot 2 years ago 2
Brain science is in its infancy. Thank God that the APA HAS taken the time to collate and categorize the tremendous suffering of so many so that they CAN GET HELP. Without a NUMBER your insurance company could care less that you are SUFFERING.
OBVIOUSLY you can not biopsy schizophrenia. You can not compare apples and oranges and declare oranges a lie because they are not apples.
emmdubb88 2 years ago
They are calling it biological but there are no biological indications. Good luck trying to argue it without sounding like you are arguing the existence of God.
"Oh, you can't see the air but obviously it exists!"
Come on, nobody is a dick anymore, they have "Intermittent Explosive Disorder."
Soon stupidity will be known as "Common-Sense Deficiency Syndrome."
It's stupid, baseless of any fact, and out of control.
nosferotica1 2 years ago 8
This movie is sad, because most of the people complaining have pyschology degrees. If they felt that the DSM-IV was phony then ethier A) The words said are taken out of content and edited to fit the purpose of this film or B) They wanted to go to medical school, but aren't good with math and science......so they are bitter.
Regardless if you think the DSM-IV is phony or not, it has helped millions of people and continues to do so. In addition, the evidence is based on scientific research.
complicatedmoves 2 years ago
pyschology is not a science, ive always believed it. They say it is cause it uses the scientific method, but it is all BS!
losfreddy 2 years ago
you need to develop an in-depth awareness of the different schools of psychology, and their respective facets. psychology does not equal psychiatry. inappropriately simplifying concepts due to laziness and a lack of insight is what is bs.
quartercherries 2 years ago 5
I agree, quartercherries. This video doesn't prove anything, certainly not that all studies into the mind are bullshit. Psychiatry and the Pharmaceuticals have definitely abused an honourable science for their own profit, and many people of dubious qualifications have cashed in with the creation of new phobias and syndromes to sell books. Psychology, Behavioral and Brain Sciences, and Philosophy are still some of the best methods we have for understanding the human mind.
Valelacerte 2 years ago
holy shit!!!!!!!! thats exactly what i thought. I lost interest in this subject after taking a cousre in college. ANYONE can say any dumbass thing they want to and that could become a new theory of psychology. It has no basis and is impossible to prove scientifically.. Things likes skitzophrenia and bi polar are different, but many theories are complete bull shit. Lost total interest in the subject after that class
losfreddy 2 years ago 5
This is B.S.
kwgardner2009 2 years ago
How do you spell
SUBJECTIVE???
Psychiatry!
antinomy777 2 years ago
They did research on witch doctors and psychologists, witch doctors beat them out! had two psychologists, the first guy was WACKO himself, the 2nd implied professionally that I might be correct in my assessment. My friend in college, had an interview between a Schizoid and a Psychiatrist and asked me which was the Doctor and which was the patient, then laughed when I picked the Doc as the patient.
antinomy777 2 years ago
This is just sad. Psychiatry has helped many people, within my family and out. Psychiatry has helped people in my family with full paranoid schizophrenia, and I myself have bipolar disorder. Psychiatry is not phony, it has just become over-marketed just like every other medial field. Brain scans CAN help show whether some people have a mental illness or not, but the fact is, regular medicine started the same way, we just need to give psychiatry a chance to advance and stabilize.
interimchaos 2 years ago
Read Explaining colours to a blind man. Not only will it enlighten many as to what living with a mental illness and chronic fatigue syndrome is like, it also gives comfort to those sufferers who think there is no hope and that they are alone. It is very informative, sometimes shocking but also very funny in parts. All in all, a good read and highly recommended.
hsttraindriver 2 years ago
These quacks are just like $5 phony psychics. It would be funny, if they didn't have the power to hold people against their will and force poisons on them.
venomousbird 2 years ago
SOS Spain (copy,
Enrique Rojas Montes, Psiquiatra
isabeldosmares 2 years ago
It reminds me of corporations fetish for 'personality tests'. Which was started by some housewife in the 40's.
tmpfan2 2 years ago
Could all the critics on this thread, list their direct experience of Mental Ilness please?
I'm interested in that which you suffered first-hand particularly. If you have no experience, I'm interested in knowing how you can claim that MI does not exist. I've suffered from depression from 28 years and from a more major illness since 2002. Psychiatry has helped me to recover, so a bunch of Monday morning quarterbacks have very little to say, as far as I'm concerned.
MatlockJack 2 years ago
Sir, I see your point but Fight for kids is not trying to stop genuine help..go directly to thier site..there are a shitload of natural treatments that work better than schedule two's or SSRI's. The big push for reform is coming from within the Psychiatric profession itself. :-)
craigbatley 2 years ago 3
I am so sorry to hear that you have suffered but can you tell me how you were diagnosed? Yes I have studied psychology and psychiatry, written theses etc. You do not mention what your other major illness is and how that is connected to your 'mental illness'. I have no doubt that there is tremendous difficulty in your life and that medication can relieve the symtoms or feelings of despair. Sadly since there are no signs it cannot relieve these. Look over the hedge....
Pietenjanpompies 2 years ago 2
first i was diagnosed as ADD than ADHD, because i was an excitable child, was given stimulants, and than diagnosed as bipoler. later on it was said i could be schizophrinic. i have been give handfulls of different medications that never fixed the behavior. ive only come accross this stuff because i thought surly there are people who must know that it is not me that is the issue it is societies inable to accept difference. in life ppl get upset this is a natural thing to deem it not so is wrong
followhimorlose 2 years ago 2
While I agree that a lot of psychiatrists are just in it for the money, and rarely take TIME to get to know their patients, it's not true that there are no laboratory or scientific tests done in psychiatry and how medication works in the brain. But yeah, I hate all those labels too. I think it's hilarious how, in this video, they have an insurance company worker talking about how psychiatry is draining the people- f___king insurance companies are just as bad!!!
prettysailorusagi 2 years ago
Have you seen or do you know where these laboratory and scientific tests are? What is your definition of a scientific test?
YNation7 2 years ago
May be it can be a really possibility GUYS, but if your talking about the worst conditions and consecuensses of being medicated, where are your investigations, where is the real average of people who is truelly helped by the medication of drugs for them health
CEAM17 2 years ago
This is a fraud.They give medications for these diagnosis without providing biological or measureable empirical evidence for their basis.
p9i7 2 years ago
My friend went on prozac, he went up once to see doc. that was it, i left him a message sayin' to write antidepressents into youtube dont know if he did or not, i think i gota keepa eye on him, his ma dont own the internet, you see cus i do, i can know the dangers etc, the truth.
Manicpanicanticant 2 years ago
could just give out weed
work better
Manicpanicanticant 2 years ago
Please tell me who "cured" cancer? What's that? There's no cure, only treatments? Just like in psychiatry. WOW.
What a lot of dangerous, misleading propaganda this video is.
canadiangirl666 2 years ago
This video is not propaganda it is the true. The DSM is simpy a marketing tool for the drug companies. For fuck sake shyness is now listed in the DSM-V as a mental disorder. The more disorders out there the easier it is into labelling people into believing they are ill and ultimately pressured into using useless expensive drugs.
sapas100 2 years ago
Cures for cancer exist outside allopatic medicine. I understand the mass ignores this fact because, my friend, that's where misleading propaganda lies. It's lucrative not to share cures and keep people on drugs and believing there propaganda. But psychiatry is another story. A total fraud that have no cure because there's no illness to cure. Psychiatry resembles much more a sinster priesthood than a branch of medicine.
jlmelramos 2 years ago 4
man like theres cures for cancer search for it your being ignorant dont place the burden of proof on other ppl go look and you will find. unless you dont want to find than you wont look. do you think people who make money of expensive cancer treatments would ever release knowledge found that would bankrupt them no there going to
followhimorlose 2 years ago
just because you cant look at a mental illness.. doesnt mean its not there..
its an overall feeling.. and sometimes physical feelings..
although i dont believe in "drugs" as meds..
i think the best thing to do.. is just read up on your symptoms but never reach to the drugs. its as simple as that
ssips720 3 years ago
Then, when we look at other common drugs like Prozac, beta blockers (useful for social anxiety, perhaps preventative for PTSD), to say nothing of the currently illegal drugs like cannabis, LSD, for which there ARE legitimate uses, there is a wealth of help people avoid due to lack of funds or prejudice. We can't all afford a week of massage sleeping on a sunny beach, or the perfectly natural holistic lifestyle. So we compensate. Amphetamine is unnatural, but not more than accounting, right?
TheBadBandana 3 years ago
Look at a simple drug like amphetamine. In therapueutic doses, it helps ANYONE feel better about routine work, perform better on detailed work like accounting, work longer hours with greater stamina. Benzadrine was sold with the breath mints at truck stops in the days when drivers could drive unlimited hours--and caused accidents due to sleep deprivation, not amphetamine intoxication. Dexadrine was a slimming pill. Meth was used by JFK--it's easier to buy at pharm. than sudafed--why?
TheBadBandana 3 years ago
I'll grant you the DSM is pretty silly. I knew someone who knew someone who sat on one of the committees deciding which diagnoses should go in the book. Like all bored people, they passed notes back and forth and decided on four major categories.
Big Crazy
Little Crazy
Assholes
Creeps
That about covers it.
It still does not mean that psychiatry, psychotherapy, and psychopharmeceuticals do not improve quality of life for a great many people.
TheBadBandana 3 years ago
they try to give you zyprexa and other drugs that require blood tests because they can kill you after 10 years of zyprexa you start to develope nervous ticks you sway your arms around uncontrolably so what was supposed to help you disables you for the rest of your life
StupidObamacult 3 years ago 4
WThere is no doubt that people labelled with schizophrenia do suffer, but at what point have we decided that the problem is in them rather than in the extraordinary circumstances of life, circumstances that all of us have to deal with on a daily basis, but that some of us find untenable?
adonispupsy 3 years ago
Psychiatry is a con. Pseudo science. A rip-off. Two things people need: Diet & Excercise. That´s all one needs. A good eating habit and exercise works - drugs don´t.
Make psychiatry history, cheaper healthfoods now!!!
StephenAries 3 years ago 2
I've never experienced any kind of so-called mental illness but I have always wondered why we have so many people on medication for behaviours. Isn't medication for diseases? Then why do we have millions of people on tablets just because they get a wee bit angry or won't walk on a pavement without having the urge to avoid the cracks?
StephenAries 3 years ago 4
and btw,.. half those doctors arnt accual doctors at all,.. but anyone wanna argue? get me some names and PHD`s ,.. for all you guys know, this was a collage students movie project,.. and LOOK! MADE BY THE USA! the only contry in the world that STRIVES OFF OF BULLSHITTING PEOPLE
bioalchemy 3 years ago
okay,.. some of this is right but ther ARE real mental dissorders! tourettes, ADHD, narcolepsy,.. you cant argue with OBVIOUS illnesses...
bioalchemy 3 years ago
I have to think of who many times I've heard white psychiatrists and their lackies complain about blacks not wanting to basically participate in this field experiment. They blew us off as crazy and not able to pay the fees. Well, like most of what is a "science" in white supremacist america we see through to the bullshit. We've already been traumatized by living in this damned corporation. But then again whites think they are the ones with all the knowledge.
chocobutch 3 years ago
The worst voice over guy. But suffering through him it is a very interesting expose, if hyped American TV style.
deagsslook 3 years ago
Thanks for posting this. This should open up some eyes.
cakedoodle 3 years ago 3
the majority of your disorders are so vaguely defined that the idea of a cure for any of them "is" impossible. even a happy person who was once called bipolar will always have the potential to have a bad day and then they will be labeled again (oh she was diagnosed with bipolar 10 years ago thats why shes so upset today etc...) instead of simply addressing the individual without needing to pigeon hole their entire personality. particularly when other issues are not addressed such as diet etc...
BIGJ88888888 3 years ago
While I agree with you that in some cases in books such as the DSM, disorders can be vague, not relevant, or some missing, the reason many disorders appear that widely and vague, is because every person is unique, their minds operate individually, and no disorder is concrete. It not like a virus, where there can be a specific strain to be identified, but perhaps a cocktail of problems from the person's past culminating in what a Psychologist or a Psychiatrist may diagnose.
drdozzy 3 years ago
Perhaps in the example you used, the bank blew and they slipped back (if this analogy is incorrect, please rectify in your response, its been a while since I heard that lecture). In reality I doubt that they would readily diagnose bipolar without the symptoms reappearing, although without proper data, this remains a matter of opinion. Unless you can link me to a third party study.
drdozzy 3 years ago
PTSSP course is a starting point. obviously there are deep seeded issues but the constant enterbulation of these is the urgent issue. after that auditing removes locks, secondaries and engrams by confronting and duplicating them. when talking about anyones sanity level it is important to realize that everyone has the potential to be a depressed or cranky sometimes a statement which in itself blows the "genetic" link to depression out of the water.
BIGJ88888888 3 years ago
Agitating or disturbing, enturbulation as LRon puts it, can cause stress in people's lives yes, but most people develop coping mechanisms for the majority of it. Bullying or harassment can cause further problems though, which in extreme cases can require counciling, or for Scientology, auditing. Courses that help people learn life skills, perhaps PTS-SP as you may suggest, have great merit in that regard, depending on the cost to that person, and not just in monetary terms.
drdozzy 3 years ago
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bigwomblewomble 3 years ago
a little knowledge can be a dangerous thing..... who is producing this video???
rd10718 3 years ago
there is a difference between actual neurological disorders and "psychiatric" "mental illness"
nbcooler022 3 years ago
I mean, yes some of the 'disorders' in there are stupid, like the 'personality disorders', but some, like childhood disintegrative disorder and Tourette's syndrome (*not* a 'swearing disease' - please research fully before saying it's people behaving badly - it's nothing to do with that) are very real and aren't entirely psychiatric/psychological.
Tictionary 3 years ago
I've damaged my neck by ticcing due to Tourette's syndrome. But wait, now I know it's all made up! Of *course* now I see it all. This made up 'disease' isn't due to congenital dodgy neurotransmitters and dopamine, it's made up and I was inventing these symptoms since I was little and guess what - someone somewhere had already invented it and written it down! Oh dear, pipped to the post. Pity I damaged my neck with all this foolish pretending.
Tictionary 3 years ago