Cat 3C Landing 200m Vis

[simonduj]

I remember landing at KMBS in a terrible snowstorm and it looked just like that!

[dave0mary]

Future aircraft will have a pilot and a dog. The pilot is there to feed the dog; and the dog is there to bite the pilot if he touches anything.

[crufflerdoug]

The people who fly these things are unbelievably skilled and well-trained. And I'll bet it doesn't get any easier after the landing, when you have to taxi in viz this bad!

[robere35]

Very little skill required to fly the aircraft but lots of skill in terms of knowledge and awareness required in case things go wrong

[TheErikFasterling]

@robere35 When things go shit ass wrong -------> Hand fly the aircraft...... and they DO have the skills to FLY

[davidsholem]

I do it daily!

[sjsobol1]

Two things. Until the plane actually gets to the runway the video camera has nothing to focus on. This makes the visibility seem worse than it really was because the focus is way off.

A CAT 3C landing can only be done automatically. There is no hand flying a CAT 3C approach. The plane can land quite nicely without the pilots ever seeing the runway. The only reason that there is a minimum visibility requirement for this landing is so that the pilots can get the plane off the runway after landing.

[21voyageur]

@FlyWMU - indeed sir you are correct. Talk about a knife's edge and blind faith in technology. Are we far from pilotless craft?

[perfectpilot1]

can someone please lift my jaws up for me?

[mizrak1979]

İt is not 200 m nice landing

[joeythes]

Not to take anything away from the pilots, but the instrumentation gives you a very clear flight path and all relevant data you need to land, whether you can see out the window or not. That said, a Cat3c (zero viz) landing requires great skill.

[21voyageur]

Bravo / lucky BUT if something went sideways (there was zero margin for error) DEEP shit. End of career move if he survived. Minimums there for a reason.

[FlyWMU]

@21voyageur They're good either way here. A true Cat 3C approach has no minimum altitude or RVR value; it's a 0/0 approach. Even if this was a Cat 3B approach, those minimums are less than a 50ft ceiling and less than 200m vis. Very cool to watch though :)

[grimley141]

@21voyageur CAT IIIc – Category IIIc – Approach

A precision instrument approach and landing with no decision height and no runway visual range limitations. (ICAO – IS&RP Annex 6).

[krypal]

ridiculous skill!

[gtgtsculling]

TITS or it didn't happen.

[clarification007]

They could say to the airport controller before landing: "Fog-off"

[dmimcg]

so why is this such a big deal. A computer is doing the flying. Now if it was hand flown, I'd be impressed. but i'm not impressed that a computer is doing it. dislike. And i do't need to change my pants. Just need to go yawn.

[zbucham69]

@dmimcg You obviously don't have a clue what this video means.

[krypal]

@dmimcg cause if the computer messes up, the pilots are blammed. U need balls to take up such responsibility

[jfflyboy]

CRAZY!



[LowEarthOrbitPilot]

The four people who disliked this got up to change their pants.

[husermarcio2]

HOLY CRAP!

[Rawinho]

scary!!!!!

[sportsstuff87]

thank god for cat III auto land! now, time to invent cat III taxi! LOL

[zackhoe1978]

@sportsstuff87 thats what I was thinking. you can land but you cant taxi. whats the point!? haha

[esv216]

I'm sure the pilots could see the lights much earlier than the camera is able to focus on them. They can't go below minimums if they can't see lights.

[jesusFreak0321]

@esv216 Nope, it's a CATIII approach. No lights are needed. The aircraft and crews are certified for this type of approach, the aircraft is typically flown with the autopilot engaged all the way into the roll-out.

[jshanaberg]

@esv216 they don't need to see them. It's an autoland all flown by the autopilot and they can land in 0/0 conditions meaning 0 visibility and a 0 feet ceiling.

[rev4life03]

I can hand fly that...

[Saturate15]

wow that is nuts!

[Pilotguy251]

@entre2poles it was said to be a boeing 767

[entre2poles]

What aircraft type ?

[WAHHBAHHH]

wow o-o

[pilotoc152]

CAT III B no DH... And RVR was about 75 meters... 5 lights spaced 15 meters gives us 60 meters plus the one below the aircraft gives 75 meters...

[eclipse245]

No way that's 200m!!! That's like 100 if not 50 :P

[MassrOmelDonia]

are you sure the RVR is 200 m ? it looks much less !

[drbackjack]

DUPE

[witull]

Cat IIIB, not IIIC

[bajesus666]

@witull nope, it was C...in a CAT 3C there is no DH, and no minimums are called out from the GPWS in this video

[witull]

@bajesus666 CAT IIIb is a precision instrument approach and landing with a decision height lower

than 15m (50 ft), or no decision height and a runway visual range less than

200m (700 ft) but not less than 50m (150 ft). (ICAO - IS&RP Annex 6).

[pingopokiak]

HOLY $#!% That would be pretty flippin' scary; as a pilot I can imagine it's pretty hard to put your faith into autoland for the first time...

[pingopokiak]

HOLY $#!% That would be pretty flippin' scary.

[cristian1727]

OMG how do they land that aircraft in that fuckin airport.....just awesome

[kr25flyn]

its all automated when the visibility and/or ceiling are that bad all the pilots have to do is program the onboard computer and monitor the integrity of it the airplane does the rest

[cristian1727]

Autoland?

[kr25flyn]

yep