stewart lee - don't get me started - part 3

[lordsofkoble]

......"looked disturbingly like Paris Hilton" lol Alan moore knows the score

[FrankBottazzo]

beware of the MUSLAMIC RAY GUNS

[Gwuba]

Religion is only a manifestation of our subconscious minds. In a way it is finding the truth and meaning of life but we are only human, we are unable to find the meaning. Why then does one find one religion better than the other? It suits his image better, it's part of his culture and tradition but it has nothing to do with facts. I don't believe in a God or higher force, that also must tell something about my subconsciousness and it doesn't mean I'm right.

[giNgkoC]

Charles Manson was unavailable for comment at this time. ^ something 6.33

Cx

[gextvedde]

Interestingly I used to belong to fundamentalist Christian group & we opposed the bill very strongly because we wanted to have the right to criticise other religions (you know, all the wrong ones). Thankfully I've left that place but I'm stll glad that bonkers bill didn't get passed.

[chingchong54]

how are other religeons wrong

maybey to other religions christianitity is rong

[gextvedde]

@chingchong54 I was being sarcastic & also referencing Stewart Lee's Comedy Vehicle (where he jokes that if you are religious most of his material won't offend as at refers to other religions "you know, all the wrong ones").

[moceanu]

if you laugh at stewart lee's jokes, you're going to hell

[InsaneHotel]

worth it

[Mesnesl]

I'd rather go to hell than go to heaven with people like you.

[Wickerbasket]

@moceanu Good. It'll be warm, and there will be people there I know.

[Regenmacher175]

What obviously transpires from this is that people are not open-minded and cannot take criticism. Well, as was said earlier, you don't have the right not to be offended. either you behave yourself with dignity or you go, like the fundamentalists, against everything that is not you. in the end, people really are afraid of what they do not understand (e.g. foreign religions). I am sorry, but if you say "tolerance" you must bear criticism.

[wouldacouldabuddha]

I wince every time I hear someone use the phrase 'the Muslim community', which is often, since the news media seem to regard it as acceptable to refer to Muslims as though they are some sort of homogenous mass. It may sound picky, but language like this can create or reinforce a kind of psychological ghettoisation.

[TheGr3mliin]

although at around 1:30 Mr. Harris says that criminal law should defend against racially motivated hate speech and he is wrong, the gov't and law has no place stopping or regulating any form of speech be it actuall constructive debate or racist hate speech every person has the right to say what they want and the kkk are people too (i'm sorry to say it), however he is right in saying that things like shouting fire in a theater is wrong this is true as it could DIRECTLY cause harm to others

[HoosierMF]

Totally agree. If people want to be racist then they should be allowed to. Censoring will only cause more problems

[chalkey79]

"Should've did?" Christ.

[grumpyyyyy]

I do think Stewart (who is brilliant) is a tad hypocritical here. Anil Gupta defends making fun of another religion then his own, because he knows enough about it to satirise it.

however, Stewart once said he wouldn't mock Islam because he doesn't belong to it culturally. C'mon every vaguely well read person knows enough about Islam to find it is as ridiculous as Christianity/Judaism. A twinge of white liberal guilt, perhaps? Surely, it's all fair game...

[Eldritchard]

Im sure he was quoted as saying he wouldn't take the piss out of Islam cos he didnt wanna get killed.

I agree with your comment though you cant have partial free speech

[trallala]

Well, you can, actually. We have freedom of speech in Norway, but uttering racist or otherwise hateful speech in public is illegal. It's working pretty well, and it's screwing up the wording of the conservative parties something awful:p

[Eldritchard]

We have a similar law on Hate Speech, and that is the reason I consider the UK not to have free speech. That and the fact people have been arrested in the UK for protesting by reading out the names of the Iraq War Dead in London.

I hate what's happened to this country.

Check out Mark Thomas on here if you want to see how ludicrous the laws against protesting are here, You need a permit, a permit to protest lol, its gone way to far here.

[trallala]

Wow, that sounds pretty ludicrous... you can protest wherever you want here, at least.

From an idealistic point of view I agree entirely that everyone should be allowed to utter whatever message they want - but from a practical perspective, I can't really see the upside of political parties running under the banner of racism, or the legality of shouting "fire" in a theatre when there isn't one.

[Eldritchard]

Unfortunately all the law has done is make the BNP and others try and ACT non racist.

As for the laws on protesting, If the home secretary decides somewheres out of bounds for a protest thats that, no protest! unless you wish to be arrested under Anti Terror laws.

George Orwells spinning in his grave.

[winterstellar]

Ah fuck, I pushed the 4 stars-key! This is so obviously a 5-star video! Ooops!:)

[chrisp1nz]

BLASPHEMY!

[utar88utar]

@chrisp1nz what is?

[gossieuk]

the blasphemy law in england is so archaic and so rarely invoked the offence is essentially dormant especially in this day and age where Christianity is becoming less and less part of the fabric of our society. any threats of actions in blasphemy in this day and age are completely empty and any changes in law to the contrary (apart from the academic process of removing the current blasphemy law) would be pointless and pedantic and would open the floodgates to capricious claims left and right

[ArchibaldClumpy]

That's a good maxim: "I have the right not to be offended." It's not a legal right but simple logic. What a brilliant comic and a brilliant analyst.

[RebelVoDKa]

Who are the leaders of the "Muslim Community"?

Who votes for them?

Oh....  No-one.

[Eldritchard]

Religous Education: That was one of my fav. subjects. A whole peroid in which to do the homework for the subjects that actualy mattered like physics.

[meu02136]

You should've did English first ;) But yes, I agree with you. R.E. = good times for homework

[Eldritchard]

I got a bloody A level in english, My spellings appalling :|

[iain075]

not to mention an oversight on apostrophe use sir;

spelling's.

I'm in pedantry corner tonight.

:-)

[Eldritchard]

Religeous Hatred bill Hmmmmmm how ironicly named as Religeon is form of hatred

[Semiramiis]

How is religion a form of hatred? It's a guide to a way of life. Some people turn their religious fervour into hate, but hate is an emotion, religion is a system. A set of artificial rules is not the feeling of hatred.

[diefortacos]

fatwas, holy wars (crusades, jews v muslims), witch trials, holy inquisitions, forced conversions. that's how religion is a form of hatred.

[Semiramiis]

Not of those things are hatred. A Fatwa is a ruling on a point of Islamic law by a recognized authority. The Inquisitition was a former tribunal of the Catholic Church. Forced conversions are that under threat of punishment. Witch trials (Salem, for example) are about lies and superstition. None of the things you mention have anything to do with hate. War is almost never actually about hating. Religion can't hate, only people can. Religion is not hatred. I'm an atheist, btw. And you are silly.

[diefortacos]

all of those things incite hatred, as does religion and other forms of division among human beings. if you think death threats and murder aren't connected to hatred and the stirring up of it, you are the one who's silly.

[Semiramiis]

You've missed the point. All those things incite hatred, yes, but that doesn't connect hatred to religion at all. Just to psychopaths.

[twitchyjohn]

so, just out of interest, are you then saying that psychopathy and religion are mutually exclusive? it would appear that events over the whole of recorded history would suggest quite the contrary if read from an objective viewpoint. but then, objectivity and religion definitely ARE mutually exclusive.

[Semiramiis]

No, no, of course not. Terrible people can be religious, certainly, however that doesn't make religion bad. It just means those people are bad. People often talk about how destructive religion is, but religion also inspires people to do great things. Some of the most beautiful music and art is religious. Great social change has been brought on by religious fervour. I'm saying religion isn't good or bad by itself, it takes people to make it that.

[catalyst8]

"Some of the most beautiful music and art is religious."

That's because a lot of it was sponsored by the churches who had the money. If you look at religious vs secular masterpieces throughout history you can clearly see this, especially pre/post Renaissance & Enlightenment. Then take into account the Inquisition's book burnings, or the sack of Alexandria's Library by Theodosius I & then Abr Ibn al 'Aas, or the Nazi book burnings. Art frequently not so much because of religion as despite it.

[somerandomer]

i dislike religion for other reasons but saying religion is a form of hatred is ridiculously small-minded. especially when you cant spell it

[p0lym0rph3]

I agree with somerandomer. People should be able to believe whatever they want. They're even allowed to be offended. What Stephen is criticising is how some individuals (in the name of religion) prevent free speech through intimidation and violence, rather than religion itself.

[londonoverground]

Beautifully put, sir. I shall be stealing that line and using it in many a drunken conversation from now on.

[KrisRamJ]

Bloody Blair and his religious schools. Thanks for inflicting your superstition on us, Tone.

[adamwebb1]

Poor choice of language, but: Amen brother!

[moltenslag]

My left nut is named Mohammed

[pofacimo]

What's the other one called?

[cabaretampere]

@moltenslag Do you have 11 right balls called Khadijah bint Khuwaylid, Medina, Sawda bint Zamʿa, Aisha, Hafsa, Zainab, Umm Salama Hind, Rayhana, Zaynab bint Jahsh, etc?

[aimonaali]

@moltenslag

My dick is named Jesus. It performs miracles.

[aimonaali]

@moltenslag

My dick is named Jesus. It performs miracles.

[dolphinio55]

Please. It's hardly likely anyone is going to bring down the Christian establishment, or prop it up, or actually affect anyone's belief or lack thereof one iota on a Youtube comments page. Why can't we just keep the comments relevant? This is not the place for rational debate, as I'm sure you all know. it astonishes me how seriously people take these comment pages as canvassing areas. It's so... pointless.

[AbbeyNormal]

Blasphemy laws. That's amazing. There's a lot I don't know.

[RodHullIAmHim]

Mental isn't it...? Considering how secular the UK is it's amazing concepts such as blasphemy are even seriously discussed. It's what comes from there being no proper separation of church from state. Unfortunately this is only going to get worse when the buffoon that will be are next King gets to open his unelected and unwelcome mouth... :(

[rnbmeister]

They were probably written to deliberately be hilariously hipocritical when we signed the international/european declaration of human rights to secur "free speech".

[ubernagash]

All Religion ever was, was neandathal mans science, then used as means of control, its all a cancer on society, man as not killed man for any other reason more so then Religion, it bourght us out of the caves only to drive us to our graves

[maureenOWW]

More people have been killed for money and politics than religion.

The mongols killed 26 million chinese, and they didn't do it for religion. It was just population control.

[ubernagash]

sry but which repey was aimed at me theres so many, and inresonce to your stament, religion is and was Money and Poilitics. You could hide your motives on the above two in religion

(plz note the words you and your in the above parpgraph was ref to them and or they in a 3rd person sense and not to YOU)just incase you get confuesed

[perydwyn]

Religion is the opiate of the masses...and like other opiates it can lead people to do stupid things while intoxicated.

[GhostVirusx90]

all the protests about laws that strip us of our

rights get the riot police to deal with them and end up kicking the shit into them all, but when a bunch of pissed off religious fanatics start trying to impeach free speech get government funding, its a mad world

[Stepper11]

Laws that suppress speech are an obviously terrible idea. It doesn't treat the sources of the problem, which are stupidity, narrow-mindedness, and hatred. Open speech gives us a place to examine our ideas and those of others. Only then can mutual understanding come about.

[dogball123]

"Oh I absolutely believe in god,and I absolutely hate the fucker" (Richard B Ridick)

[macman13]

"god's like that.  he hates poofs."

lol, brilliant

[macman13]

You've got to be fucking kidding me, england still has BLASPHEMY LAWS?!?!?! Are we living in the 1400's?

[doorframehead]

It's stupid, but they're not as strict as they were then, the last man sent to prison for blashphemy was in 1922 for comparing Jesus to a clown :)

[macman13]

Jesus would have made a great clown, "For my next trick, I'm gonna turn this glass of water, into funk! (cue funky music)"

[doorframehead]

That's Family Guy :D

[dafyddoe]

And they're only related to the church of England, I think, in the sense that the offence has to concern the state religion in particular.

(Though I'm not entirely sure, I just remember hearing it on the radio.)

[maureenOWW]

He wasn't a clown, he was a cunt. You heard, blasphemy freaks, I SAID HE WAS A FILTHY CUNT.

[GhostVirusx90]

well said

[ExMachine]

Now just hold on a minute.

Jesus was quite clean.

[maureenOWW]

Ah, yes, but his MIND was REALLY FUCKING FILTHY.

The real problem with Jesus was his fucking attitude...Imean, the guy wanted the fucking moon a stick.

YOU HEARD.

THE MOON ON A FUCKING STICK.

[ExMachine]

At least he did his best. He had whores to wash his feet with their hair. Which is more than you can say for too many young men today.

[maureenOWW]

Well many US States still ban the sale (OR USE!) of vibrators, and you can go to jail for anal sex (WITH YOUR WIFE) in some states!

Now THAT is fucking crazy lol...

[boilerup1869]

what a wonderful thing religion is. i myself am a roman catholic but dont argue for a second that religion certainly makes people do curious things.

[portabledavros]

Another brilliant piece of work by Stewart Lee. The problem with Jerry Springer - The Opera, is that the people who liked it were rational, intelligent people, whilst those who took offense at it had nothing better to do than stand around in the rain outside theatres around the country heckling, and bullying theatre managers into cancelling the performances. Stupid people and zealots will always outnumber men like Stewart Lee. We mustn't listen to those who shout loudest in the greatest number.

[quizzabella]

Stewart lee is a genius.

[UnvarnishedTruth]

Stewart Lee says he wants to ensure we have "greater social harmony". So he uses hatred to try and achieve this. You can fool some of the people, some of the time...

[TRWolf]

I dont see him spewing hate, I see the protestors doing that.

[UnvarnishedTruth]

No, don't make me watch it again. Are you talking about protestors standing peacefully with placards singing hymns?

This is what Stewart Lee has said on the subject, "One would like to think that comedy could incite religious hatred. That would be great."

[TRWolf]

The funniest part is that you obviously dont "get" that, do you?

[UnvarnishedTruth]

What don't I get?

[TRWolf]

lol

[Rumpio]

you obviously weren't aware of the media furore these groups kicked up, their hectoring, badgering behaviour, their desire to stop people seeing something that they themselves hadn't seen, the death threats Stewart Lee received. Yes, lovely peaceful people.

[maureenOWW]

'standing peacefully with placards singing hymns?' blocking the fucking pavement and making a racket, you mean?

I'd run them over with a JCB if I was given half a chance.

Oh, and you are a cuntflap. That's a scientific fact.

[TulseLuper]

Then explain the death threats Stewart Lee received during this debacle. This controversy is all about power and the desire to crush freedom of thought and speech. I have nothing against religious people as a whole but the people in charge of religions are downright fascists.

[XxGradaKxX]

people who are in charge of anything are often downright facists to a certain degree, power or influence of any kind will always tempt even the most noble to use it to there own ends the thing that makes dictators and good leaders different is the ability to decide to use power sparingly and wisely or better yet not at all

[davyjames]

The solution to all the problems of mankind of for humans to stop thinking any kind of power or force can ever be moral. Even shouting fire in a theatre is not something that needs criminal prosecution lol. Anybody doing that would be permanently banned from the private premises and ostrescised from the community as a complete twat.

[apollyon1]

"we have no right not to be offended" - a good motto for anyone!

[phillippassmore]

Yeah agreed i would have been arested for some of my veiws:) dam religious people annoy me.

[JunkerJames]

You ARE all that is comedy. Thanks very much for this. Didn't know it existed, yet I claim to be a steward lee fan.

[JunkerJames]

Oops. Stewart is spelt Stewart