There is a lot of finger pointing these days. Every one is calling each other false teachers and heretics. Biting and devouring one another like dogs. But i tell you that a house divided against itself cannot stand. Christ is coming back for a glorious church. Not the weak, powerless and anemic one we have today. Judgment begins in the church
Sorry, but I can't help responding...this is making me nauseous...someone who calls himself a Believer, and poses as a representative of Him, to the world, and then drags His Name (Jesus) thru the mud, publicly, by lying, is reprehensible.
Reciting the prayer doesn't save you,true. But if you truly believe, that is the right prayer to pray. By praying with people who have faith by salvation he gave them the prayer to use that faith. Those who didn't pray with faith didn't lose anything. As for accusing J.P just for sitting with him...stupid
Hey, if the devil can't destroy you, he'll keep you busy defending yourself. Think about who you're working for next time you split hairs for a little "heretic ammo".
@AsTheDeer No I said the video is ridiculous and your accusation of J.P by association is stupid.I am rebuking you. BTW 1 corinthians 5:12-13 "What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside? 13 God will judge those outside. Expel the wicked person from among you."
As for you quoting Matthew 7:1-5 that applies perfectly to you if you look at your video. Do not abuse the word of God by making it a cheap defence against being rebuked and corrected
@Frannas85 Very well. I wanted to see how you would react to such nonsense. Because you yourself are giving me nonsense. "Splitting hairs"? Is rebuking Rick Warren as impossible as splitting hairs is? Then why is it so easy for John MacArthur to do? You haven't even watched the whole thing. This is part 1.
What I meant to say was that if the Elect could be decieved. Sorry. I am just so surprised by what I hear and admired Piper's reaching as being correct that knowing this is very sad.
God is happy when we be us (as in our ownselves)??? Where are the basics of the gospel??? Romans 3:10 None is righteous not even one. Romans 3:23 For ALL have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. Where is the fall of man? Our depravity? This is so twisted yet saddening.. Don't believe anything you hear. Even from your pastors. Remember that the word, the Bible, is our basis. Confirm EVERYTHING. Know the Bible in order not to be deceived..
this whole scenario makes me SO sad. one would think we're called to love one another only so far as our intellectual pride allows us to. "By this all men will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another." -- No wonder they don't know :'(
i think u would do well to investigate your rather lofty claims of calling Rick and Piper heretics... what evidence do u have to suggest this opinion?
Ive seen and heard alot of Mr Pipers sermons and teaching, and to be honest i have never ever heard him desiring power or influence, and the hitler reference makes me worry alittle about you and why you would feel that way, its kind of an extreme postion and comment, his views on abortion are shown clearly on youtube vidio :No Mr President" and they are completely consistent with the biblical worldview in that area, watch that vid please so i can see where u are at.
@AsTheDeer Ive been trying to find more info, i havent heard anything since this was announced, has the conference happened? Where can i see it if so? Has Mr Piper changed his views on scripture anywhere? I just feel like there must be more to it, I have alot of his sermons and hes so sound i just cant except it, i know hes just a man, but it doesnt make any seense.
The theological error in this video is the suggestion that Rick Warren's invitation and Paul Washer's admonition must be at odds with one another. Read, for example, the great Treatise on Justification by Faith by America's greatest Reformed theologian, Jonathan Edwards. Edwards agrees with Warren, and Edwards agrees with Washer. Does that qualify Edwards for the "heresy" label that this video "alerts" its watchers to? Both/and, not either/or, gave the church its orthodox view of Christology.
Ahh, we must trust John Piper as an elder and overseer. He must see something that can be useful to the Glory of God. I am having a hard time with this, but I must not be quick to judge. Grace and Peace ya'll
@itsnolongeri I've named them in the other videos, parts 2-5. The desire for worldly power, for the kind of influence that Hitler has, the views on abortion, depression, and the cruelest heresy, Calvinism.
Paul Baloche leads worship at Rick Warren's church A LOT, and he receives a lot of endorsements from him for dvds and things. Just kind of ironic, thats all.
@stoney490 Wow! Thanks Mark. I didn't know that. Considering what music to use for this compilation, I immediately heard this song in my mind. I can probably get away with this...
There is a lot of finger pointing these days. Every one is calling each other false teachers and heretics. Biting and devouring one another like dogs. But i tell you that a house divided against itself cannot stand. Christ is coming back for a glorious church. Not the weak, powerless and anemic one we have today. Judgment begins in the church
neonleonification 3 months ago 4
@neonleonification Of course I'll be divided from them. We are not the same house. I do not wish to be the same family with Piper or Warren.
AsTheDeer 3 months ago
@neonleonification (amen to that) <3
blessedwithoutmeasur 2 months ago
Sorry, but I can't help responding...this is making me nauseous...someone who calls himself a Believer, and poses as a representative of Him, to the world, and then drags His Name (Jesus) thru the mud, publicly, by lying, is reprehensible.
Is there no fear of God in this man?
88momart 6 months ago
This video is ridiculous.
Reciting the prayer doesn't save you,true. But if you truly believe, that is the right prayer to pray. By praying with people who have faith by salvation he gave them the prayer to use that faith. Those who didn't pray with faith didn't lose anything. As for accusing J.P just for sitting with him...stupid
Hey, if the devil can't destroy you, he'll keep you busy defending yourself. Think about who you're working for next time you split hairs for a little "heretic ammo".
Frannas85 6 months ago
@Frannas85 Why are you judging me? You called me stupid and ridiculous? You have no right to judge me. Only God can judge me.
AsTheDeer 6 months ago
@AsTheDeer No I said the video is ridiculous and your accusation of J.P by association is stupid.I am rebuking you. BTW 1 corinthians 5:12-13 "What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside? 13 God will judge those outside. Expel the wicked person from among you."
As for you quoting Matthew 7:1-5 that applies perfectly to you if you look at your video. Do not abuse the word of God by making it a cheap defence against being rebuked and corrected
Frannas85 6 months ago
@Frannas85 Very well. I wanted to see how you would react to such nonsense. Because you yourself are giving me nonsense. "Splitting hairs"? Is rebuking Rick Warren as impossible as splitting hairs is? Then why is it so easy for John MacArthur to do? You haven't even watched the whole thing. This is part 1.
AsTheDeer 6 months ago
Its really sad that Christians have to accuse both of these good men as heritics...its just wrong..
Jen8973 7 months ago
@Jen8973 Define a good man?
AsTheDeer 7 months ago
What I meant to say was that if the Elect could be decieved. Sorry. I am just so surprised by what I hear and admired Piper's reaching as being correct that knowing this is very sad.
MsHannelore 8 months ago
Even the elect can be decieved in the last days. Very sad about piper.
MsHannelore 8 months ago
@MsHannelore Where dies the bible say that the elect can be deceived?
AsTheDeer 8 months ago
Mr Piper really needs that sabbatical & to spend some time researching Warren properly.
Unbelievable.
oldaliu 8 months ago
God is happy when we be us (as in our ownselves)??? Where are the basics of the gospel??? Romans 3:10 None is righteous not even one. Romans 3:23 For ALL have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. Where is the fall of man? Our depravity? This is so twisted yet saddening.. Don't believe anything you hear. Even from your pastors. Remember that the word, the Bible, is our basis. Confirm EVERYTHING. Know the Bible in order not to be deceived..
sepisepsep 10 months ago
this whole scenario makes me SO sad. one would think we're called to love one another only so far as our intellectual pride allows us to. "By this all men will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another." -- No wonder they don't know :'(
LadyoftheLight 1 year ago
i think u would do well to investigate your rather lofty claims of calling Rick and Piper heretics... what evidence do u have to suggest this opinion?
shine777 1 year ago
@shine777 Dearest, you have five videos full of evidence.
AsTheDeer 1 year ago
I love John Calvin!
strangeworth 1 year ago
Ive seen and heard alot of Mr Pipers sermons and teaching, and to be honest i have never ever heard him desiring power or influence, and the hitler reference makes me worry alittle about you and why you would feel that way, its kind of an extreme postion and comment, his views on abortion are shown clearly on youtube vidio :No Mr President" and they are completely consistent with the biblical worldview in that area, watch that vid please so i can see where u are at.
itsnolongeri 1 year ago
I love John Piper Whats going on!!!!!!!!! Insanity insanity insanity!!!!!! Arggghhhh
itsnolongeri 1 year ago 4
@itsnolongeri It's been going on for a while... now more manifest... Insanity indeed. I love him too and I'm heartbroken.
AsTheDeer 1 year ago 2
@AsTheDeer Ive been trying to find more info, i havent heard anything since this was announced, has the conference happened? Where can i see it if so? Has Mr Piper changed his views on scripture anywhere? I just feel like there must be more to it, I have alot of his sermons and hes so sound i just cant except it, i know hes just a man, but it doesnt make any seense.
itsnolongeri 1 year ago
The theological error in this video is the suggestion that Rick Warren's invitation and Paul Washer's admonition must be at odds with one another. Read, for example, the great Treatise on Justification by Faith by America's greatest Reformed theologian, Jonathan Edwards. Edwards agrees with Warren, and Edwards agrees with Washer. Does that qualify Edwards for the "heresy" label that this video "alerts" its watchers to? Both/and, not either/or, gave the church its orthodox view of Christology.
sanliblade 1 year ago
@sanliblade The GREAT Edwards? No man is great.
AsTheDeer 1 year ago
Ahh, we must trust John Piper as an elder and overseer. He must see something that can be useful to the Glory of God. I am having a hard time with this, but I must not be quick to judge. Grace and Peace ya'll
YouthChallengeVA 1 year ago
@YouthChallengeVA You said 'must' three times. Don't be cruel to yourself. Knowing Piper's other heresies, no one is really being quick to judge.
AsTheDeer 1 year ago
@AsTheDeer what "other heresies are you speaking of? Please name a few.
itsnolongeri 1 year ago
@itsnolongeri I've named them in the other videos, parts 2-5. The desire for worldly power, for the kind of influence that Hitler has, the views on abortion, depression, and the cruelest heresy, Calvinism.
AsTheDeer 1 year ago
Those two together just looks odd!
YouthChallengeVA 1 year ago
@YouthChallengeVA AMEN!!
soughtnsaved 1 year ago
Sad day in the world of the Gospel
Friendoflord 1 year ago
@Friendoflord Amen!!
soughtnsaved 1 year ago
Paul Baloche leads worship at Rick Warren's church A LOT, and he receives a lot of endorsements from him for dvds and things. Just kind of ironic, thats all.
stoney490 1 year ago
@stoney490 Wow! Thanks Mark. I didn't know that. Considering what music to use for this compilation, I immediately heard this song in my mind. I can probably get away with this...
AsTheDeer 1 year ago