TPMtv: Sunday Show Roundup: Eye of the Beholder

[Rachmanfan4life]

Hillary will say and do ANYTHING to win. Rotten to the core.This is all a ploy. Classic Clinton politics. Throw mud, lie, cry, and lie some more, dirty rotten politics...then just when people start putting her in her place, she says "oh we're gonna try and tone it down now"....just before the vote. Don't be fooled, the real Clintons are far more nasty and disgusting whores than they have shown so far. If Hillary's the nominee, she'll lose to McCain.

[care4ya]

Hilliary Clinton takes pride in the fact that she was a Goldwater girl for senator goldwater...is it not ironic that goldwater at the time was in opposition to the Civil Rights Act of 1964...When President Johnson won the Election he signed the bill into law..

[wglennevans]

It's astonishing that people buy into this silly notion that the Clintons are using racism. What she said is an echo of "Where's The Beef", clumsily attempting to paint Obama a man of words, not a man of action. She happened to choose a black leader, MLK, as the reference point for this critique. You can say many things about the Clintons, but they are hardly stupid enough to play the race card with the SC primary looming, where 50% of the electorate is black. That is complete nonsense.

[bigceez4]

Hell we all know what she tried to imply, and she's done this stupid shit time and time again. She basically implied that a white person makes black people's wishes happen, and real black leaders like Martin Luther King just do the little work so vote for white Hillary. Man of all people, she picked the one guy that virtually everyone respects. Heck I'm hispanic and I'm grateful for the sacrifice he and others did for us miniorities.

[NSLBC]

Hillary is using GENDER CARD,"EXPERIENCED HUSBAND" CARD + RACE CARD, by bringin' DUMBASS JOHNSON to talk about "SOMETHING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD"!shame on her for playing so DIRTY-thats why no one should vote for her!

[sarcasmosis]

This is a solid gold brick come from the sky. Get those headlines, get those damned heads looking the right way. or left way. whatever.

[missdivinestalls]

Johnson needs to eff off. He has nothing valid to say and is a hypocrite. I agree with the comment below that Hilary and Barak need to smack back at the media for blowing something so stupid out of proportion. Stick to the REAL issues. Not this fluff.

[kitty0loaf]

the thing that bothers me the most is how she is trying to pin this debacle on the "obama camp" when it was primarily fueled by james clyburn, jesse jackson, and random bloggers/radio hosts as far as i can tell.

[Masonm89]

There is too much stress on political party as i see in the posts. I am democrat,however i am voting for a republican RON PAUL. I have never been moved by a politician like this since JFK. RON PAUL 2008

[zed4785]

Barack and Hillary need to come out and repudiate the media for blowing this whole thing out of proportion. What Hillary said wasn't about race; it was about "Change" versus "Experience", "Inspiration" versus "Confidence", "Hope" versus "Results"...she just happened to draw an analogy that could be taken the wrong way.

That said: Obama08

[nbfgbk]

yo is she crying

[WadeBlazingame34]

Don't get dirtier Hillary, or you'll blow up the Democratic coalition. If the Dems lose in 2008, it will be a nightmare.

[NSLBC]

Getting Bob Johnson, to vouch for your campaign, to win over black people, is like getting the colonel from KFC on the stage to say "See black people, its safe to vote for Hillary cuz she's down with Fried Chicken!!" G T F outta here!

Obama 08'

[fishhead06]

Two white politicians fighting over which candidate can more appropriately expropriate the legacy of a black leader. Yawn.

[greenfly7]

Wow. I guess this video is saying we are still stuck on stupid.

The policies which promote the most freedom for all peoples from all backgrounds are the policies of RON PAUL.

RON PAUL FOR PRESIDENT!!!

[gbgzp]

Oh stop with the phoney "media" outrage.

[Randomambusher]

OMG - it's time to start up a snow shoveling business in hell, I just agreed with Bill Kristol. mmm, kind of.

[bent100]

Hillary will win in a landslide in Novemeber which is why the media is fighting so hard to elect Obama.

[dierdre69]

Hillary reminds me of Condi Rice--the way she words things, her tone, and the way she shakes her head when she talks. If she wins the primary, the dems are doomed.

[punic1]

Obama is getting MCAINED.

[waynepj3]

Clinton made a racially tinged comment. She wanted Obama to come out and play the race card. Obama, Harvard law professor is too smart for that but that didnt stop Clinton. Other people, outside of Obama's camp responded and were upset. Hillary is saying that Obama is fanning the flames? WTF. He did nothing wrong. Geesh. This is making me sick.

[dejahthoris]

True, he took the high ground. He let's the Clinton camp's evil words sit and fester.

[creole60]

I like Obama better than Hillary. However, I think Hillary handled herself well on Meet The Press. Hillary has to use caution and not cry to often and Barrack has to use caution and not say it's because I'm black. Both of them should lay off race and gender; becuase it will only backfire on them.

[gbgzp]

Wait a sec, you expect Obama not to talk about another candidate dismissing the impact and legacy of Martin Luther King?! If ANYONE should speak up, it should be him. And by the way, Obama has never used his ethnicity as an excuse for anything, Hillary has. Look at how outraged she was months ago after she complained about the men ganging up on her in the debates.

[creole60]

I don't think Hillary dismissed Dr.King. She and Obama are running for what office? She was explaining the vital role a president plays in historical changes. My point is, Obama shoudn't go around calling people racist...it will backfire on him. As for the rest of your comment; I agree.

[gbgzp]

When has Obama or anyone from his campaign called anyone racist?! And please, don't be naive. Her comment was implying that hope and inspiration don't create change (what Obama does). It's legislative acts, like LBJ's Civil Rights Law that makes change (what Hillary is saying she'll do). THAT, is a slap in the face to all the people who fought the injustices of that era.

[creole60]

Ok...not a racist, but they accuse Hillary of racist remarks; which I don't think they were. You're right, hope and inspiration does motivate change. This may sound unfair, but Dr.King wasn't a politician, and to create new laws...you need politians. Look, I'm for Obama; I made a video supporting him.

[gbgzp]

Glad to hear that you're an Obama fan. But it's important to argue this point. Hillary coment is revisionist history. How many years did MLK suffer to have Washington finally take notice. To even mention MLK and LBJ in the same breath when discussing the Civil Rights movement is an insult. Of course, without a bureaucrat, laws don't get changed but to somehow imply that King didn't create change, LBJ did is incredibly misleading!

[creole60]

Look, we agree and disagree on some things. I live in Boston and I love the legacy of JFK. I'm not a big fan of LBJ either. It's sad to, because if John Kennendy wasn't killed, he would have signed those bills, and people wouldn't mind speaking both of their names in the same breath.

[mandoelpaso]

As the gender and race war continues the rest of us have to watch and see and it will get a lot worser.

[mandoelpaso]

Candidates for the Democratic party enjoy surrounding themselves JFK or Martin Luther King to make their own image look positive since all Americans know what these two individuals stand for and our history and the great human beings they been when they were alive. We need to leave these two individuals rest their souls in peace for once

[gbgzp]

What the hell is that supposed to mean? If anything, MLK and his ilk would want their message and beliefs to be championed in perpetuity. "Rest their souls in peace"? I don't think MLK would want to rest before his dream is realized.

[iamjackscolin]

They're not telling white people not to vote for Obama because he's black, they're trying to court the black vote away from him.

[heckofanutjob]

I think what they're trying to do with all these borderline digs and slightly racially-tinged words, is provoke the Obama campaign into responding. Then they can claim Obama is playing the race card, and this supposedly turns off white and hispanic voters. Taken alone, there's not much there. But add them all up and it must be deliberate.

[iamjackscolin]

Interesting idea, and it certainly sounds plausible enough. True, few things in this kind of campaign are spontaneous.

[snarkwaupaca]

44% of people will NEVER vote for Clinton, That means that Rove and the rest need to convince 6% of the rest not to vote for Hillary. If the democrats blow another election because they are amateurs I will have to go either green or libertarian for the next few election cycles. The country is being destroyed by neo-cons and the left is acting like Hillary earned the nomination. If she is on the ticket we don't deserve the presidency.

[PreetSG]

True, if Clinton faces Guliani, McCain or Huckabee, she stands no chance; Romney or Ron Paul, she got a very slim chance. She is the most hated person amongst everybody. The country needs Obama so bad, though I hope he takes Biden over Haygel.

[classic14rider]

Hillary's statement is vintage Clintonianism; she is a political insider who believes that insider politics and "compromise" through triangulation is the way one moves the country. Margeret Thatcher said "compromise" means that both sides agree to something that neither side wants. But the Clintons have pushed the Democratic Party to the right on economic issues. She and her husband don't seem to have much appreciation for the grassroots of the Party.

[foley15136]

That's a great word; Clintonianism

[gallomex13]

Obama hasn't said anything on the issues maybe its not an issue at all.

[Fringe111]

It's not, it's just spin. If you saw her whole comment then you would see what she really meant. Taking a sound bite and twisting it's meaning is an everyday occurance in the media

[gallomex13]

well this is not the media!