The stuff about children and men is quite interesting. I've thought about that before but never realized to what extent it's true. The first thing that popped in my mind was all those recent riots in England, hello! Plus I've been hearing absolute horror stories (I'm from the states) about the whole "yob" thing on the streets. Is it as bad as it sounds there?
we now live in a spiral where states try to protect the future of their society.
this is by trying to bring some stability. Not by doing what is right, but by doing what is possible.
Take a couple that has childern. One that is working, the other that is taking care of children.
If they split up, it is obvious, that the one working will have to support for the one taking care of the childern, and the childern, even when they split.
men want short term satisfaction (sex), and to get that have to invest in long term projects (jobs).
women want long term satisfaction (support), and get that by investing in short term projects (make up).
it's jobs that are hard to get, its jobs that you can make a cereer, and it's jobs that you earn money. the incentive for men to get a job is very high, not so for a women.
That is why this gap between men and women will stay the same for a long time to come.
men are under a lot of stress. from the age of 13, men learn that no one cares for them but they have to care for others. If a man is interested in a girl, he has to do the first move.
A man that is stranded, knows that cleaning and washing will not make his situation really better. He is thinking that he is stranded, that he needs to find a job again.
Take the same man and turn him into a women, and you know, society and men wont let him (her) down.
men will stay in the dark ages if men do not start to understand, that they have to school young men about their own needs, and how they can get what they want, without making them slaves to women and society.
That is missing in our todays society. No one is talking to young men about what is happening to them, and that they should demand also adjusted treatment. We all know, that when men begin to demand what suits them best, as women already do, it will colllapse.
and there are reasons what this is so. why is no one talking about WHY men are in the dark ages. when you realize why, it's quite simple, that it will need a change in thinking of all men, and that is almost not possible.
Think of yourself being a women, and you know, you can take care of only yourself. A man will come along and take try to be with you, even if you nag. this added freedom you can use to establish talking only about your needs. solutuion: men have to stop wanting women.
In a world of psychopathic competitive groups it appears on the surface that individualism is less powerful and so people reject it for the safety and convenience of groupthink. But groupthink is psychopathic and inhuman.
It is only individualism which can defuse all the psychopathy and madness of our world, and get people back into a place where they rely on their own innate conscience and talents. Its not going to be easy, but individualism is our only hope for a return to sanity.
As feminism destroys itself the social controllers will transfer their attention back onto men. They will try and tell us we are some sort of group so they can provide leadership of the group and a set of principles and rules, which will be an attempt to usurp our innate conscience and humanity.
We must all resist the temptations of group identity, and be individuals, strong in our sense of self purpose and self reliance.
Collectivism = death of the individual = what social controllers want
I reject the idea in this video that men thinking and acting like individuals is a bad thing. This is the essence of life, development, acheivement and invention.
Collectivism is a BAD thing. Collectivism is a mental illness where people give up their rational intellect and conscience and give thier allegiance to a group.
This is why feminism destroyed women it made them irrational it usurped their conscience and destroyed compassion and men stopped being individual people & became "the enemy".
@manwomanmyth Also, do you see any distinct changes with regards to feminism in the culture since you started this series? Has it gotten better or worse, do you think?
Porn works on the macro level, the social controllers use it as a tool to enhance mens slavery to an idealised version of femininity. It destabilises relationships and dehumanises all involved. This is where the interests of the controllers and the femininsts diverge. The feminists believe that they personally control men and so see porn as a threat. But they dont personally control men, they are just tools themselves. its the generalised programmed meme of woman in mans mind that controls him
@sidvidkid I don;t agree that porn (or 'erotica', as it should be called were it not vilified) is used against men. As I said in the film - porn is positive.
I do agree that women have become tools of other interests because they are so easy to manipulate. Just look at Obama speaking on women's issues. He'll give women a few compliments; he'll say how strong women are; how he owes everything to his single mother; how women have it rough. Cue applause, big smiles and female votes.
@manwomanmyth Worse thing is I really doubt Barrack believes all that he says. Just like Dr Phil likely does not believe his own rhetoric. He just knows it gets him clients, and Barrack votes.
My opinion of porn may well be a subjective one. I used to watch a lot of porn, my mind was focused on sex and getting sex constantly. One day i stopped watching porn. After only a few days i noticed i no longer cared about sex and i started looking at women differently. My interest in women lessend, and i became more intellectual, reading studying etc. I feel certain that porn is used to over stimulate men and keep them from thinking clearly.
I can't believe the laughter at the comedian at minute 40; everything he was saying was LITERALLY TRUE (or even WORSE than he depicted)--and it's NOT funny.
@GetMeThere1 It is true and very far from funny. However, Bill Burr does a great job there of highlighting a massive problem. He is extremely astute and he's definitely a barely undercover MRA. His sort of work is useful even though he makes light of it.
I just hate the way society blames so many ills and problems on "men", demonizes "men" (men rape, men beat their wives, men are pedophiles, men oppress women, etc) impresses expectations and conditions on "men" and THEN keeps telling them to BE men, act like men. And then the cycle repeats.
I do not understand why so many men in the MRM condone pornography. It only serves to feed an unhealthy appetite for sexual pleasure that causes men to be controlled by women.
Men do indeed have a "feminine side". Rather it is women who do not have a "masculine side". Genetics prove it. Every man's daughter receives an X (FEMALE) chromosome from her natural father. No woman can give her son the Y (MALE) chromosome. This is hard wired.
As a woman, I do sympathize with men who struggle with their identity roles as many women do. Identity roles come more naturally to others and less naturally to others. I just turned 30 and realized that I have got to be myself and do what is right for me, not what society is expecting of me. There will be those who approve and admire and there will be those who will disapprove and be appalled. At the end of the day, it is my life.
interesting. why don't men just organized themself in a semi military structure. not the usual networking that women are so good with but something men are good with
@pomegranatetangerine I'm not sure what you mean. Granted unto them? Women would be fired and called all kinds of names for talking about womens rights, contraceptives and so on. Look at the middle east, where a woman is punished for being raped - that is our history. I'm from Europe, our history go further back than the US. We haven't had nothing granted to us.
In the US you have some sort of "chivalrous" culture, that I have not come across here.
@pomegranatetangerine There is still hatred of women. There are still men who would want us to become property again. There is still violence and rape. I don't want to hate men, at all. I have a lot of love for the men in my family. I just want to keep the freedom that I have, that has been fought for by many. It's not very much anyway. I'm still scared every time I go home late. Every time. Every day of my life. Are you?
@MatthewDavine Why don't you stay out late? Are you afraid of violence from women? Are you afraid of women robbing or raping you? Do you cross the street or take a different way home when it's late and you notice a woman walking behind you? Who are you afraid of?
@Zerafinel Yes, I'm afraid every time I go out late at night and I'm a man. In fact, as a man, I'm statistically much more likely to be a victim of violent crime than a woman is. The implication that your experience of vulnerability as a woman is somehow unique compared to that of a man is false. That is what you were taught to believe, but it's only true when the experiences of men are conveniently ignored and undermined.
@Zerafinel Wow. You don't seem to understand that you have commented in the wrong place; you took a wrong turn somewhere.
Tales of mythical female epiphanies and fantastic stories of desperate women 'finding themselves' (under the boot of oppression, no less) were probably destined for the Disney channel, or some other place promoting works of fiction.
This channel, that you have wandered onto by mistake, does not buy the tired Feminist inventions of female oppression. Better luck elsewhere.
@manwomanmyth funny how women kept on bringing up the same old debunked excuses...the wage gap, the women morality, of course ..the supposed oppression..and so on and so on. Well I guess they have to keep doing it so the rest of the weak minded women and girls would believe them. It is also funny how once women got a taste of "victory" on the claimed of victim hood, every so often they would in the same line bring up issues that were never issues before.
@luckybozo1 Victimhood pays. That's what's happened in our society; what's more, it's a political angle. When you reward victimhood like we do today, it's tough to have a serious discussion about the issue. You have jerks like the Reverend Al Sharpton preaching that America is still very racist. You'd think by his logic we still have segregated bathrooms. And there are black people that believe that. They have no clue as to what Racism is, but it's an industry now. It pays.
@MaxxTheMerciless That's right, make a big deal about being wronged and you become a celebrity. Nothing to do with right and wrong and fairness, everything to do with being offended personally which changes from person to person. You can't even argue against it!
@Zerafinel I would like to ask you why females hated themselves. Was it all from men or was some of it created by women. I find it hard to believe that women just naturally love each other perfectly and that it was men that somehow created the hate within them. There are some guys I don't like and I don't like them because of the way they act not because women made me hate them
@TheNwo525 People in oppressed groups hate each other. It's because we differ from the norm, which was being a man. In every woman, you could see all the traits that made you less than a whole human being. That made you one of the ones that could be beaten and nobody would say a word. Everything was compared to being a white man. Same for black people in the US. It takes conscious effort to love yourself and love others in the group that are like you.
One of the primary purposes of Homosexuality in the West is to Divide, and Isolate those who are good versus those who seek pleasure for its own sake.
(cont) I have worked with only one female in my department and she complains constantly that she doesn't get it and will go home early for more sleep or food when she hasn't been very productive. The male ability to externalize is in my opinion, a gift.
I don't think that my male externalization is completely bad. I am a physics student who spends many hours studying and setting up labs and such. I more than welcome it because its what keeps me as objective as possible.instead of worrying about how much sleep I have had I work on what will make the experiment better. Instead of worrying about food I figure out why I'm not solving the problem and to work every angle
@animeangels99 ...lol, you don't understand...you see, she needed sleep so she won't have dark eye circles which would possibly hinder her chances from landing a wealthy suitor because she would look like a drug addict! This is why women put layers of desperate makeups while telling herself it was for self confident!!
Sit a dumped man at a bar, sit a dumped woman at a bar. From your experience and observations, who do you think will attract the most advances, interest (welcome or not). Interaction/attention increases your chances of recovery, women get heaps, it acts as a remedy. I know life has to go on but seeing as 'woman suffering' is pied in our face day in day out by the glossy media, to see women then recover so quickly doesn't fit the victim narrative.
@manwomanmyth You dont understand it really is. I been showing all my friends these vids since I found them. An incredible insight into the Male in Society.
32:09 - I take issue with what Prizzey says here. Feminism isn't stronger than men's rights movements because women are "better at networking" than men. What a load of bullshit. Society as we know it was built by men. That's done through organization and networking. The reason why Feminism is stronger is because it was funded by rich and powerful men to begin with. The men's rights movement is a grassroots movement, while Feminism was government funded from the beginning.
@TheMadShangiPWNZU That would be cool,I know one thing I never let a women define my masculinity & I don't need a women to be happy so I agree with the other points of the video. And I'm trying to make a mens movie club offline.
@TheMadShangiPWNZU I didn't agree with the whole of what she said either, but not about the networking exactly.
Women ARE better at focusing on themselves and their own wants (and what they are TOLD they should want) than are men. That's why the funding went the way it did; women are easy to manipulate because of the depth of their self-interest.
Men, in contrast, don't think of themselves AT ALL when they work together for the good of everyone.
@TheMadShangiPWNZU I think she hit the nail on the head. Women are naturally nurturers so it makes sense that women would help and each other and organize. Men on the other hand do not. We tend to have that survival of the fittest mentality. Every man for himself. Men also tend to see accepting help from somenone as a sign of weakness. I have see this everyday. Prizzey is correct.
09:03 - The reason why most men find it harder to move on from a failed relationship is because the failure of the relationship is always put on the man. It is rare that I come across females that actually own up to anything. It's always someone else's fault. If they cheat on their husband's, it is because they were "manipulated" into doing it. The majority of women seem to be ego-centric, self-centered little brats with no consciences whatsoever.
@crypter27 I have considered doing the same thing, on quite a big scale. In fact, I already AM doing one in an area of my business where I am able to make it work. I am very happy that I am able to make such a difference in the area where I live. Male-only spaces are virtually extinct, but I like to buck the trend.
In the coming times, I think a men's club franchise, that hit's the right spots in offering things to cater to men's interests and new burgeoning psychology, would really succeed.
@manwomanmyth Yes I think your'e right,I'm starting a mens movie club because allot of guys love movies for guys & about guys. Playing movies like TheyLive,& one I'd recomend Jack Brooks monster slayer.
@manwomanmyth Same here brother & if you like the EvilDead trilogy,you'll like JackBrooks also I have a copy of TheyLive on DVD & its apart of my collection.
@bltsrmsqt Islam is another player in the game, yes. And I agree about its negative presentation in our media and from our Feminist governments.
However, I don't see it as a particular "hope" not because it wouldn't work, but probably in the same sense as I wouldn't use a sledge hammer to crack a nut. It's too big a 'fix' for Feminism and not the 'right' fix for many people, including myself.
There is more than one way to skin a cat, after all. OK, I'll stop with the proverbs now.
The points mentioned between 23:06 – 23:37 are some of the most profound and important arguments in this entire series of videos. Once these points get out into the mainstream consciousness, people, especially men, will see feminism for what it is, and will turn against it.
@St37One problem is that feminists would turn it around and say that women were seen as weak and needed protection, once again, blaming men for being "sexist". I am sure you have heard similar "reasoning" from women! If you buy her dinner, you are sexist for thinking she can't pay. If you open her door, you are sexist for thinking she was weak! If you don't do those things, you are not a man! Women want to play you like a yo-yo!
This film describes my childhood pretty well, during my childhood I've felt that I been at the mercy of women, I've always felt as I had to get their approval wich forced me into a badly shaped mold of how I should act/look/be as a man. This made me later on very confused of hwo I am really am. I never developed a identity on my own. I'ts not until recently I've started to understand where the fear for women originated from. All this has taken its toll on my selfesteem for a long time.
You'd be surprised to know that you have a lot in common with feminism. I think men shouldn't be pushed into being the masculine stereotype, and that the watering down of entrenched masculine/feminine roles liberates men to express themselves and support each other. I don't agree that men should lose their children in a divorce or be treated like paedophiles, but this is the case because society views women as the primary carers of children.
@DancingHedwig Please take your misunderstanding elsewhere. "A lot in common on with Feminism", indeed.
This isn't about the concept of manufactured roles and stereotypes that you are evidently fixated upon (typical amongst Feminists), this is about the sustained attack against MANHOOD not "masculinity".
SEX, not GENDER, is the issue at hand.
I don't suffer fools gladly, particularly those that lack comprehension both of my work and the nature of Feminism to the level you display here.
@manwomanmyth With all due respect, surely 'feminism' should be defined by feminists themselves?
As a feminist, I am very much on your side, and don't think that 'men' or 'manhood' warrant persecution. I am in favour of gender equality, as I'm sure you are, so I don't see how attacking feminism is helping your cause.
@DancingHedwig Feminists should define themselves. I suspect that if more did, and actually examined their pre-packaged beliefs, they would cease parroting hatred and disavow themselves of their toxic ideology.
However, I will also define them as I have found them to be, as they inflict their particularly virulent form of gynocentrism on my environment:
Feminism is a victim ideology explicitly advocating female supremacy.
Feminists (i.e. you) are part of the problem and are not on my side.
@manwomanmyth So despite the fact that I agree with you on many counts, I'm not on your side? That's not a very effective way of gathering support for your cause, just sayin'.
Unfortunately, gender inequality comes pre-packaged, not my ideology. I think that we've matured enough to abandon misogyny/misandry slandering, and can work together to achieve gender equality.
@DancingHedwig I'm not interested in what you agree with. Other MRA's may wish to entertain Feminists, but I'm not one of them. Good luck elsewhere.
As for "inequality comes pre-packaged", this is what I mean when I say you are part of the problem. The eternal chip on the shoulder, the manufactured oppression of the past, the struggle by valiant Feminists (like yourself, no doubt) to make everything "equal"... except, nothing is EVER enough. There can be no end point with eternal victimhood.
@manwomanmyth You agree with me that gender inequality exists; I can see this from your videos, yet we both come at it from a different perspective. As a feminist I would argue that gender inequality disproportionately affects women, and so men suffer as a result. Naturally as women are about 50% of the population, what affects one gender is bound to affect the other. This is not an 'eternal victimhood' by any means, as it can be rectified.
@DancingHedwig If you think you are up to it, visit here - gynotheory.blogspot.com - and read lecture 2: "The Same Old Story"
Whilst you perseverance here is impressive, your ideas are not, for reasons I have established in a range of films on this channel. My videos speak for themselves and we have nothing further to discuss.
@manwomanmyth If denial is your bent, I guess I have nothing more to say to you either.
I appreciate the videos however, and will continue to watch them, if only to have a look at a vastly different perspective. Thank you also for the link - I'll check it out. Catch ya.
@RichardRich1989 Dear Richard, I'm race-positive in that I think all races have a right to exist. But, if my race flushes itself down the toilet of history, I don't care what happens to everyone left behind. Race is not my only identifier, but, it's strong enough to make me shrug my shoulders at whatever femi-nazi multicult regime takes over from us. Enjoy your eco-windmills and singing kumbaya.
this reminds of what my friend did, I told him I like My Little Pony, and he was like "EWW gay!" and I felt really pissed that he made that connection.
@spoogeling My Little Pony? Yep. Pretty gay. Not "I like cock" kind of gay. More like the "uncool and prancing ridiculous" sort of gay. In my line of work, we constantly trash each other with insults that include being called "gay," but it has nothing to do with homosexuality. With us, it's not meant as truly disparaging whatsoever. It's more about knowing that you are solid with your brothers. This includes the gay guys on my crew, btw. I get ribbed for being a sucker for cats. Uber-gay? Maybe!
@spoogeling Well then that's messed up and maybe he needs to reign in sissy words like "eww." Sort of like he's channelling his inner 13 year old mall-tart. Sorry to hear you branded gay for watching a fucking cartoon. What is he, the "gay-police?" Have sex with his sister. That'll show him.
@RichardRich1989 I always mention that when a feminist brings up the argument.
I tell them that "they think its sexist if there is places that only men can hang out, yet you do not think its sexist for places where only women can hang out".
Course calling them out on their hypocrisy will not be enough sadly.
There is been a literal witch hunt on male organizations and clubs, while female organizations and clubs have sky rocketed, and continue to flourish.
You covered the mentality and standards I been following half of my life.
I build myself the way I see fit and not the way women want me to be.
Through my 20 years of life I faced much disapproval from women, even from my own mother as well. I been called gay, wimp, and other titles many times.
and most of these women know exactly what they're doing when they shame men this way.
They judge and shape men according to how they will be effected.
@RichardRich1989 Cheers. You put it well saying: "too many women seek to take away our breathing spaces where we can be simply be men".
More men need to realise the importance of male-only spaces and not fall for the lie that this is somehow against women. Women, you'll notice, don't have any problem excluding men wherever they feel like it.
@manwomanmyth Dear mwm, et al: You can't win this battle without recognising that identity can only be recognised with like, not with other. And that means including heterosexuals, whites, Christians as meriting their own distinct "spaces." It's not just men being liquified, it's sexuality, race, religion, and so forth.
I see a comment regarding how we are too late to do anything. I wonder at this, just because the collective shoulders of men have been broad enough to bear this garbage for as long as they have doesn't mean they will forever. Men will try to achieve anything; particularly if someone told them they couldn't. To my mind this means that all the hate mongering by misandrists will ultimately lead to their own downfall. Rather than being too late, I look at it's end as "when" not "if."
Great video, I like the Bill Burr clip especially. He's a treasure...a man who tells it like it is. My favorite quote from him, "Rub one out, who gives a fuck?"
@manwomanmyth I agree that feminists have female centric perspectives, and agendas, however I didn't bring feminism into the argument for a few reasons. One my complaints have nothing to do with feminism, and two I do not consider myself a feminist as I wish for social justice for both men and women.
With the 'failed attempts' comment I was trying to say for every piece of legislation that passes many more fail.
You say that I have an unsound grasp on reality, but do not elaborate, please do.
@NialWhat I classify YOU as a Feminist and female-centrist strictly based on your comments here.
You speak of yet more legislation for women that fails to pass. You want more? You expect more? Yet you claim to wish for "social justice".
Name one item of legislation passed to help men. Tell me the name of a UN organisation that aims to help men and boys around the world (hint: google "UN Women").
This is your unsound grasp of reality: you watch THIS film and proceed to talk about MORE for women.
Great film. I agree with what Harry says that a handful of people get benefited from doing a "divide and conquer" job on society. Even feminism was created for such purposes. If women are not at home taking care of the children, then the one true influence for them is schools, who belong to goverments.
@manwomanmyth I personally disagree with the appropriateness of the generalization. They have sizes, and there is a difference between generalizing a community, or a movement versus an entire gender. That is a lot of people, and furthermore a lot of unique cases.
Also, yes there are initiatives in place centered on women's interests, but they were pushed through after numerous failed attempts, and passed for a variety of legal/political reasons, not necessarily moral/ethical reasons.
@NialWhat Disagreement is fine, unfounded though it may be. Your business.
However, to talk about "failed attempts" for women's initiatives, it's difficult to know how to respond because you seem to have a very unsound grasp of the reality all around you.
On my website I describe "female-centrism" - the high prevalence within women and Feminists to see the world ONLY as it affects women, regardless of the similar or worse effects on men. Your comment here perfectly illustrates this phenomenon.
@MrWatchdawg77 I hear you, but don't confuse positive analysis of men with disparagement. I would never do that.
Erin said her piece and Harry had his things to say about what he sees happening in the men's movement and with the psychology of men. There's no back-stabbing here. It's about different opinions and what needs to happen and, yes, what might need to change to some degree within men, to improve our situation. Let's face it, if things stay the same, it's not tenable going forwards.
Here in the States, we have one club that woman actually prefer to be men only and would probably be outraged if it was any other way. The club I speak of is Selective Service.
@kiybro Yes. Unless I hear a woman demanding Equality with respect to the military draft (along with all her other complaints) I refuse to give a damn and I refuse to listen further.
@kiybro As much as I like the -idea- of women in the military. I really don't want to see women who, by and large, are less physically capable in the battlefield. I can do without the sea of female bodies just for the sake of proving a point. If you want to win a war, you need to put men in there, especially when they're going to be pitted against other men. There's a reason why you never see women in the Special Forces of the military.
@SoggyPizzaPockets1 I don't think women should have to sign up for selective service because no one should have to sign up for selective service. This is just an example of how men are actually the oppressed ones. I would have rather been a house wife in the 20th century than to be sent out to die in the trenches of Gallipoli or the beaches of Normandy.
@MrBastilleDay I do not believe that it helps men, in fact I think that this predisposes men to distrusting women. If men want to have their issues voiced and taken seriously they should find allies of both genders, rather than alienating one of them.
I suppose my largest issue is that they imply that all women are manipulating rather than some.
Also, (because it's not as if there aren't seven ideas going on right now) I also disagree with their characterization of men.
@manwomanmyth I am interested in how both genders are represented, and personally I think that this presentation does a disservice to both.
My 'painting' remark was in regards to how I feel that the commentators in the movie generalize an entire gender, approximately 3.5 billion people. They do the same to men as well, just in a different way.
There are definitely more people aware of 'woman problems', but it doesn't mean they give a damn.
@NialWhat I frequently encounter people who tell me that generalising about the sexes, particularly women, is never valid. Everyone's an individual; not all women are like that (NAWALT) etc.
However, generalisations are perfectly fine where appropriate and they are made where appropriate.
You agree with the obvious when you say that women have their issues acknowledged, but then you deny the obvious: tax-payer funded bodies, UN missions and Presidential initiatives all give a very large "damn".
Yes men have a raw deal, but women also deal with their own issues, and stereotypes. Painting women as manipulative, invisible, puppet-masters helps neither gender.
I appreciate some of the issues the doc brought up. Some of these things I honestly never thought about before, but the whole thing leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
@NialWhat You said: "Yes men have a raw deal, but women also deal with their own issues and stereotypes". Not correct. The world knows about, cares about and actively deals with issues that negatively affect women. The world doesn't know, or care, or do anything about issues that negatively affect men.
That's what it's all about and is why this channel exists. It's not about "painting" women as anything.
How typical that someone watches this film and wants to talk about the perception of women.
Makes me think!!! Personally, I think every person has a right to be the way he is and set him or herself free of all stereotypes. The way I see it, I am a man, regardless of my sexuality. I am gay, and I certainly see myself as a man, I have never wanted to be effeminate. What makes a man, a man? Society has certainly defined it rather narrowly. In fact, I do think men have it got worse than women. I am a man even though I may have a nurturing side. It's not a feminine side. That's misguided.
I walk though the same park everyday because it takes time off my trip home. One day a woman looked at me and asked me not to walk though the park because there was children playing. I said " its a public park I have every right to be here" it was only afterwords did i think ....did she just Insinuate I was a Pedophile ? its very true I am Afraid of children and wont touch them because i am Afraid of accusations now even more so. my life would be ruined just by the accusation.
I like the fact goodfella videos seem to drowned in feminist comments and yet I rarely see those attempts in manwomanmyth's mone. Perhaps the fact he clearly much more organised and reacts more as well as haveing a bigger base scares them off.
What are they eating and drinking. Thats andrew guy and the other one. The light skinned black guy and the darkskined black guy. His mother did physically beat him beat his eye lazy.
But I must strongly disagree with Harry on two points:
1-I believe it is women who need men and relationship with men far more than men do. While men may need sex more than women, women seem to crave marriage and babies more than men. Women have a harder time being alone than men.
2-I think it's actually an advantage that we don't relate things just to us as "men" (unlike women), because that enables us to build and run societies for everyone's benefits, not just us men.
@Vebinz Regarding 1, this is difficult. I know men who do and don't need to be in relationships. I'm on the fence with that one and have just presented Harry's and Erin's views as they gave them. However, he's spot on as regards emotional needs; men DO need to find methods of satisfying their human need for intimacy without relying solely on women. That is a problem and it's being exploited.
2) It is a double-edged sword; we can do great things but we're paying too heavy a price.
I really like this vid; I think some of the scenes with the three guys chatting could be cut down though. Some very good points are made, but can these guys really be said to be speaking for everyone? It gets a bit too chatty, especially when there's some interrupting going on. I still think this is brilliant insightful work.
@amido7 I agree about cutting down. I found this a tricky subject to deal with and the nature of it meant that it's ended up a bit long, a bit rambling and often not as tightly edited as I would like.
The guys chatting was left in (interruptions and all) because it's an exploration of the subject rather than some definitive concept that can be just neatly presented.
I appreciate your comment on this and be aware that I'll be doing better edited stuff in "bitesize" lengths in the near future.
Rape is not linked to porn. Rape is almost as old as humanity itself. Women were being raped in ancient Rome, long before cameras were invented to film sex acts. In fact, that's where the word "rape" comes from, the Latin word meaning, "to seize."
Hello Sir, I really respect your effort to make these videos but lets get real here.
Most of your friends or subscribers are just internet warriors who would DARE NOT point out the flaws of feminism in public or fight against it openly. U have no influence in mass media or government.
Its too late now, the damage has been done. Women will continue to follow the toxic feminist ideas and give men more misery. Their is no going back.
@TimeGod12 I think I fully understand what you mean and perhaps a little of how you feel. Every MRA who has spent a deal of time in this fight has thought or said similar things: "It's overwhelming, we can't do anything, there's no point, Feminism's stranglehold over our politicians is too strong, it's too late" etc.
That may be so, but it probably isn't.
It is not the end of the game.
Whilst Feminism is still INCREDIBLY attractive to women and many men, change is happening and will continue.
@TimeGod12 because we're men, and the future is always changing. the thing about feminism is that as long as they rely govt, feminism is sinking ship. it's self defeating. and if feminists STOP relying o the govt, then there really isn't any opposition for MRA's. either way, we win. just fight, and be patient. you'll see.
i disagree. the amount of women a man can attract is a good measuring stick of how manly he is. i also think one of the biggest problems with feminism is that they tried to define themselves independently of us, all the while relying on us just as much, if not more than they have in the past. i don't understand why ppl rebel against their ancient gender roles. they're natural. the only reason women were able to rebel was because of the prosperity men created.
@YoungRaWarrior do you mean the roles such as...man goes to work, he is strong, fearless, emotion-less, and "manly"...woman stay at home, takes care of children, feed family,clean home, she is weak,emotional,dependant...?
@Zac6230 im saying the amount of women you attract is a good measuring stick for how manly you are, not that women should be the end all be all. in fact, not treating women like they are the end all be all to life is a part of being a man. the less masculine you are, the more you obsess over women, because you lack a sense of self.
@JackofOneTrade567 This is not about "gender roles" it's about MANHOOD. Manhood is not a "role" it is a state of being.
"Manly" is not a term coined by men, it's one used by women to describe behaviour that suits women i.e chivalry, sweep-her-off-her-feet, grab the restaurant bill before she even sees it, come to her rescue in some fashion etc. No man EVER describes another man as "manly".
@manwomanmyth A man is no less of a man if he is not attractive to women. If a man DOES judge his manhood by the number of females attracted to him, there's a good chance he has the wrong priorities.
@manwomanmyth you misunderstood. women should never be the priority. being masculine means not putting women on pedestals. being masculine means putting personal growth over women. acting like this will attract more women, which is what i mean by the amount of women you attract is a good indicator of how masculine you are being. lemme just say though, that even if women are attracted to you, it is not in their nature to make the first move, so you may not notice female attraction.
@JackofOneTrade567 I'm not sure I have misunderstood. Regardless, there is not necessarily a link between masculinity and attractiveness to women, at least not in the way you suggest here.
Whilst I agree that a man who develops himself in various ways and does not make women his focus will generally be more attractive to women, he also might not. The interest of women bears little if any relation to his development as a man and is therefore not a measure of him.
@manwomanmyth no, trust me, it does. if you spend any time in the pickup community, you learn women generally agree on what they find attractive in men. men take risks, are assertive, confident, competent, put themselves above others, aim to grow and move forward in life, are dominant, take personal responsibility, have high standards, etc. those are masculine characteristics, and they will attract the most women, without a doubt.
@manwomanmyth i know what you're trying to do. you're trying to define men independent of women. fine, but like feminists, this ignores our biology. women are attracted to men, and men display certain characteristics. and the average man(meaning not gay or trans) will find the most fulfillment when he aligns himself with his masculine nature, which can measured by the amount of women he attracts. anyways, this is basically just us repeating ourselves. there's no point continuing.
@JackofOneTrade567 Biology is not being ignored, this whole channel makes that clear. I didn't realise you were coming from the PUA angle. Now it makes sense why you might measure a man by his status amongst women, but it also reaffirms what I was trying to make clear in the film.
PUA's may indeed measure their masculinity and development as men by the number of women they pick up. That's good as far it goes. However, the fact remains that sexual conquests measure sexual conquests, not manhood.
@JackofOneTrade567 Dead wrong. It is a mangina's duty to protect ADULT females. Men, OTOH, have a duty to protect themselves. While you're busy "protecting" women, who in the blackest part of Hell is protecting you?
@rep5281 you still don't understand. im saying there's nothing wrong with our nature of protecting women. the problem came when feminists exploited that nature. protecting me from what? why do you resent traditional masculinity? the problem isn't men, the problem is feminists exploiting men.
The stuff about children and men is quite interesting. I've thought about that before but never realized to what extent it's true. The first thing that popped in my mind was all those recent riots in England, hello! Plus I've been hearing absolute horror stories (I'm from the states) about the whole "yob" thing on the streets. Is it as bad as it sounds there?
lantenec 1 week ago
we now live in a spiral where states try to protect the future of their society.
this is by trying to bring some stability. Not by doing what is right, but by doing what is possible.
Take a couple that has childern. One that is working, the other that is taking care of children.
If they split up, it is obvious, that the one working will have to support for the one taking care of the childern, and the childern, even when they split.
ultraverydeepfield 3 weeks ago
36:40
there you go.
men want short term satisfaction (sex), and to get that have to invest in long term projects (jobs).
women want long term satisfaction (support), and get that by investing in short term projects (make up).
it's jobs that are hard to get, its jobs that you can make a cereer, and it's jobs that you earn money. the incentive for men to get a job is very high, not so for a women.
That is why this gap between men and women will stay the same for a long time to come.
ultraverydeepfield 3 weeks ago
35:30
men are under a lot of stress. from the age of 13, men learn that no one cares for them but they have to care for others. If a man is interested in a girl, he has to do the first move.
A man that is stranded, knows that cleaning and washing will not make his situation really better. He is thinking that he is stranded, that he needs to find a job again.
Take the same man and turn him into a women, and you know, society and men wont let him (her) down.
ultraverydeepfield 3 weeks ago
32:20
men will stay in the dark ages if men do not start to understand, that they have to school young men about their own needs, and how they can get what they want, without making them slaves to women and society.
That is missing in our todays society. No one is talking to young men about what is happening to them, and that they should demand also adjusted treatment. We all know, that when men begin to demand what suits them best, as women already do, it will colllapse.
ultraverydeepfield 3 weeks ago
32:30
and there are reasons what this is so. why is no one talking about WHY men are in the dark ages. when you realize why, it's quite simple, that it will need a change in thinking of all men, and that is almost not possible.
Think of yourself being a women, and you know, you can take care of only yourself. A man will come along and take try to be with you, even if you nag. this added freedom you can use to establish talking only about your needs. solutuion: men have to stop wanting women.
ultraverydeepfield 3 weeks ago
In a world of psychopathic competitive groups it appears on the surface that individualism is less powerful and so people reject it for the safety and convenience of groupthink. But groupthink is psychopathic and inhuman.
It is only individualism which can defuse all the psychopathy and madness of our world, and get people back into a place where they rely on their own innate conscience and talents. Its not going to be easy, but individualism is our only hope for a return to sanity.
sidvidkid 3 weeks ago
As feminism destroys itself the social controllers will transfer their attention back onto men. They will try and tell us we are some sort of group so they can provide leadership of the group and a set of principles and rules, which will be an attempt to usurp our innate conscience and humanity.
We must all resist the temptations of group identity, and be individuals, strong in our sense of self purpose and self reliance.
Collectivism = death of the individual = what social controllers want
sidvidkid 3 weeks ago
I reject the idea in this video that men thinking and acting like individuals is a bad thing. This is the essence of life, development, acheivement and invention.
Collectivism is a BAD thing. Collectivism is a mental illness where people give up their rational intellect and conscience and give thier allegiance to a group.
This is why feminism destroyed women it made them irrational it usurped their conscience and destroyed compassion and men stopped being individual people & became "the enemy".
sidvidkid 3 weeks ago
@manwomanmyth Also, do you see any distinct changes with regards to feminism in the culture since you started this series? Has it gotten better or worse, do you think?
MaxxTheMerciless 3 weeks ago
@manwomanmyth Any thought, as I mentioned to you before, on doing a Conclusion or Capstone video for this series?
MaxxTheMerciless 3 weeks ago
Rewatching this, eye-opening.
Stardusk 3 weeks ago
The internet is really really great.....
daysleepin4 3 weeks ago
Porn works on the macro level, the social controllers use it as a tool to enhance mens slavery to an idealised version of femininity. It destabilises relationships and dehumanises all involved. This is where the interests of the controllers and the femininsts diverge. The feminists believe that they personally control men and so see porn as a threat. But they dont personally control men, they are just tools themselves. its the generalised programmed meme of woman in mans mind that controls him
sidvidkid 3 weeks ago
@sidvidkid I don;t agree that porn (or 'erotica', as it should be called were it not vilified) is used against men. As I said in the film - porn is positive.
I do agree that women have become tools of other interests because they are so easy to manipulate. Just look at Obama speaking on women's issues. He'll give women a few compliments; he'll say how strong women are; how he owes everything to his single mother; how women have it rough. Cue applause, big smiles and female votes.
manwomanmyth 3 weeks ago 12
@manwomanmyth Worse thing is I really doubt Barrack believes all that he says. Just like Dr Phil likely does not believe his own rhetoric. He just knows it gets him clients, and Barrack votes.
MrBastilleDay 3 weeks ago
@manwomanmyth
My opinion of porn may well be a subjective one. I used to watch a lot of porn, my mind was focused on sex and getting sex constantly. One day i stopped watching porn. After only a few days i noticed i no longer cared about sex and i started looking at women differently. My interest in women lessend, and i became more intellectual, reading studying etc. I feel certain that porn is used to over stimulate men and keep them from thinking clearly.
sidvidkid 3 weeks ago
I can't believe the laughter at the comedian at minute 40; everything he was saying was LITERALLY TRUE (or even WORSE than he depicted)--and it's NOT funny.
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@GetMeThere1 It is true and very far from funny. However, Bill Burr does a great job there of highlighting a massive problem. He is extremely astute and he's definitely a barely undercover MRA. His sort of work is useful even though he makes light of it.
manwomanmyth 3 weeks ago 3
@manwomanmyth 20:30 you need to tell your friends to use the bloody internet and get free porn !!
Edbrad 3 weeks ago
I just hate the way society blames so many ills and problems on "men", demonizes "men" (men rape, men beat their wives, men are pedophiles, men oppress women, etc) impresses expectations and conditions on "men" and THEN keeps telling them to BE men, act like men. And then the cycle repeats.
ColonelCosmic 2 months ago 3
I do not understand why so many men in the MRM condone pornography. It only serves to feed an unhealthy appetite for sexual pleasure that causes men to be controlled by women.
wogeibe 2 months ago
4gb of porn is nothing compared to what i have
asdfghjkl2222 2 months ago
Men do indeed have a "feminine side". Rather it is women who do not have a "masculine side". Genetics prove it. Every man's daughter receives an X (FEMALE) chromosome from her natural father. No woman can give her son the Y (MALE) chromosome. This is hard wired.
scannerman777 2 months ago 2
A powerful 47 minutes. Bravo!
Aeimos 3 months ago
As a woman, I do sympathize with men who struggle with their identity roles as many women do. Identity roles come more naturally to others and less naturally to others. I just turned 30 and realized that I have got to be myself and do what is right for me, not what society is expecting of me. There will be those who approve and admire and there will be those who will disapprove and be appalled. At the end of the day, it is my life.
SanamLovesEssie60 4 months ago
interesting. why don't men just organized themself in a semi military structure. not the usual networking that women are so good with but something men are good with
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@pomegranatetangerine In 1915, Emma Goldman was arrested for trying to spread awareness of contraceptives. In fact she was arrested several times.
Zerafinel 5 months ago
@pomegranatetangerine I'm not sure what you mean. Granted unto them? Women would be fired and called all kinds of names for talking about womens rights, contraceptives and so on. Look at the middle east, where a woman is punished for being raped - that is our history. I'm from Europe, our history go further back than the US. We haven't had nothing granted to us.
In the US you have some sort of "chivalrous" culture, that I have not come across here.
Zerafinel 5 months ago
@pomegranatetangerine There is still hatred of women. There are still men who would want us to become property again. There is still violence and rape. I don't want to hate men, at all. I have a lot of love for the men in my family. I just want to keep the freedom that I have, that has been fought for by many. It's not very much anyway. I'm still scared every time I go home late. Every time. Every day of my life. Are you?
Zerafinel 5 months ago
@Zerafinel Yes, violence against men is widespread and as a man I don't stay out later either.
MatthewDavine 3 months ago
@MatthewDavine Why don't you stay out late? Are you afraid of violence from women? Are you afraid of women robbing or raping you? Do you cross the street or take a different way home when it's late and you notice a woman walking behind you? Who are you afraid of?
Zerafinel 3 months ago
@MatthewDavine ...forget late at night, even in daylight, a woman can get any man arrested with false rape!
luckybozo1 3 weeks ago
@Zerafinel Yes, I'm afraid every time I go out late at night and I'm a man. In fact, as a man, I'm statistically much more likely to be a victim of violent crime than a woman is. The implication that your experience of vulnerability as a woman is somehow unique compared to that of a man is false. That is what you were taught to believe, but it's only true when the experiences of men are conveniently ignored and undermined.
Aeimos 3 months ago
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Zerafinel 5 months ago
@Zerafinel Wow. You don't seem to understand that you have commented in the wrong place; you took a wrong turn somewhere.
Tales of mythical female epiphanies and fantastic stories of desperate women 'finding themselves' (under the boot of oppression, no less) were probably destined for the Disney channel, or some other place promoting works of fiction.
This channel, that you have wandered onto by mistake, does not buy the tired Feminist inventions of female oppression. Better luck elsewhere.
manwomanmyth 5 months ago 31
@manwomanmyth funny how women kept on bringing up the same old debunked excuses...the wage gap, the women morality, of course ..the supposed oppression..and so on and so on. Well I guess they have to keep doing it so the rest of the weak minded women and girls would believe them. It is also funny how once women got a taste of "victory" on the claimed of victim hood, every so often they would in the same line bring up issues that were never issues before.
luckybozo1 3 weeks ago
@luckybozo1 Victimhood pays. That's what's happened in our society; what's more, it's a political angle. When you reward victimhood like we do today, it's tough to have a serious discussion about the issue. You have jerks like the Reverend Al Sharpton preaching that America is still very racist. You'd think by his logic we still have segregated bathrooms. And there are black people that believe that. They have no clue as to what Racism is, but it's an industry now. It pays.
MaxxTheMerciless 3 weeks ago
@MaxxTheMerciless That's right, make a big deal about being wronged and you become a celebrity. Nothing to do with right and wrong and fairness, everything to do with being offended personally which changes from person to person. You can't even argue against it!
luckybozo1 3 weeks ago
@Zerafinel I would like to ask you why females hated themselves. Was it all from men or was some of it created by women. I find it hard to believe that women just naturally love each other perfectly and that it was men that somehow created the hate within them. There are some guys I don't like and I don't like them because of the way they act not because women made me hate them
TheNwo525 5 months ago
@TheNwo525 People in oppressed groups hate each other. It's because we differ from the norm, which was being a man. In every woman, you could see all the traits that made you less than a whole human being. That made you one of the ones that could be beaten and nobody would say a word. Everything was compared to being a white man. Same for black people in the US. It takes conscious effort to love yourself and love others in the group that are like you.
Zerafinel 5 months ago
@Zerafinel haha women hated each other. Good one. They were more like "time to cash in gals!"
we shall call it "equal rights"
ComeLeVent 3 weeks ago
Its also why men are brutally attacked if they masturbate, because just like porn it eases men's addiction to women.
Anything that eases men's addiction to women, is an enemy of the feminist movement.
ManSpeakOut 5 months ago 2
The truth really hurts. Thank you for all your videos.
Silvyre 6 months ago
Hahaha. Discussion about porno. Always fun. So what's so bad about it?
DragonofDeath4 6 months ago
One of the primary purposes of Homosexuality in the West is to Divide, and Isolate those who are good versus those who seek pleasure for its own sake.
MaxxTheMerciless 6 months ago
LMAO women enough to swallow with out gagging...... i know i am ;)
wetdream09 6 months ago
(cont) I have worked with only one female in my department and she complains constantly that she doesn't get it and will go home early for more sleep or food when she hasn't been very productive. The male ability to externalize is in my opinion, a gift.
animeangels99 6 months ago
I don't think that my male externalization is completely bad. I am a physics student who spends many hours studying and setting up labs and such. I more than welcome it because its what keeps me as objective as possible.instead of worrying about how much sleep I have had I work on what will make the experiment better. Instead of worrying about food I figure out why I'm not solving the problem and to work every angle
animeangels99 6 months ago
@animeangels99 ...lol, you don't understand...you see, she needed sleep so she won't have dark eye circles which would possibly hinder her chances from landing a wealthy suitor because she would look like a drug addict! This is why women put layers of desperate makeups while telling herself it was for self confident!!
luckybozo1 3 weeks ago
About women getting over breakup easier.
Sit a dumped man at a bar, sit a dumped woman at a bar. From your experience and observations, who do you think will attract the most advances, interest (welcome or not). Interaction/attention increases your chances of recovery, women get heaps, it acts as a remedy. I know life has to go on but seeing as 'woman suffering' is pied in our face day in day out by the glossy media, to see women then recover so quickly doesn't fit the victim narrative.
LikeMindedIncident 6 months ago
Your videos are EPIC. A real eye-opener. Men need to wake up and take a look around. We are lost.
cracer112 6 months ago 24
@cracer112 Cheers. Perhaps the MRM is like GPS for men.
manwomanmyth 6 months ago 6
@manwomanmyth You dont understand it really is. I been showing all my friends these vids since I found them. An incredible insight into the Male in Society.
UnlimitedRaikoh 6 months ago
32:09 - I take issue with what Prizzey says here. Feminism isn't stronger than men's rights movements because women are "better at networking" than men. What a load of bullshit. Society as we know it was built by men. That's done through organization and networking. The reason why Feminism is stronger is because it was funded by rich and powerful men to begin with. The men's rights movement is a grassroots movement, while Feminism was government funded from the beginning.
TheMadShangiPWNZU 6 months ago
@TheMadShangiPWNZU I agree 100% brother!
crypter27 6 months ago
@crypter27 I should take snippets from this video and use it in my next video.
TheMadShangiPWNZU 6 months ago
@TheMadShangiPWNZU That would be cool,I know one thing I never let a women define my masculinity & I don't need a women to be happy so I agree with the other points of the video. And I'm trying to make a mens movie club offline.
crypter27 6 months ago
@TheMadShangiPWNZU I didn't agree with the whole of what she said either, but not about the networking exactly.
Women ARE better at focusing on themselves and their own wants (and what they are TOLD they should want) than are men. That's why the funding went the way it did; women are easy to manipulate because of the depth of their self-interest.
Men, in contrast, don't think of themselves AT ALL when they work together for the good of everyone.
That is, of course, changing thanks to the MRM.
manwomanmyth 6 months ago 2
@TheMadShangiPWNZU I think she hit the nail on the head. Women are naturally nurturers so it makes sense that women would help and each other and organize. Men on the other hand do not. We tend to have that survival of the fittest mentality. Every man for himself. Men also tend to see accepting help from somenone as a sign of weakness. I have see this everyday. Prizzey is correct.
cracer112 6 months ago
09:03 - The reason why most men find it harder to move on from a failed relationship is because the failure of the relationship is always put on the man. It is rare that I come across females that actually own up to anything. It's always someone else's fault. If they cheat on their husband's, it is because they were "manipulated" into doing it. The majority of women seem to be ego-centric, self-centered little brats with no consciences whatsoever.
TheMadShangiPWNZU 6 months ago 8
I don't let a women define my manhood ever & I don't need a women to be happy,ManWomenMyth you've inspired me to start a mens club.
crypter27 6 months ago 3
@crypter27 I have considered doing the same thing, on quite a big scale. In fact, I already AM doing one in an area of my business where I am able to make it work. I am very happy that I am able to make such a difference in the area where I live. Male-only spaces are virtually extinct, but I like to buck the trend.
In the coming times, I think a men's club franchise, that hit's the right spots in offering things to cater to men's interests and new burgeoning psychology, would really succeed.
manwomanmyth 6 months ago
@manwomanmyth Yes I think your'e right,I'm starting a mens movie club because allot of guys love movies for guys & about guys. Playing movies like TheyLive,& one I'd recomend Jack Brooks monster slayer.
crypter27 6 months ago
@crypter27 "They Live" is one of my all time favourites.
manwomanmyth 6 months ago
@manwomanmyth Same here brother & if you like the EvilDead trilogy,you'll like JackBrooks also I have a copy of TheyLive on DVD & its apart of my collection.
crypter27 6 months ago
@manwomanmyth How about "No MA'AM" ?
USAFSmiley87 6 months ago
@USAFSmiley87 I like that, too!
manwomanmyth 6 months ago
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justsomefellow2 6 months ago
ISLAM is your last hope- why do you think it's presented in such horrid terms in the media?
bltsrmsqt 6 months ago
@bltsrmsqt Islam is another player in the game, yes. And I agree about its negative presentation in our media and from our Feminist governments.
However, I don't see it as a particular "hope" not because it wouldn't work, but probably in the same sense as I wouldn't use a sledge hammer to crack a nut. It's too big a 'fix' for Feminism and not the 'right' fix for many people, including myself.
There is more than one way to skin a cat, after all. OK, I'll stop with the proverbs now.
manwomanmyth 6 months ago
The points mentioned between 23:06 – 23:37 are some of the most profound and important arguments in this entire series of videos. Once these points get out into the mainstream consciousness, people, especially men, will see feminism for what it is, and will turn against it.
St37One 6 months ago
@St37One If you mean that they extend far beyond that particular discussion, I agree, totally.
manwomanmyth 6 months ago
@manwomanmyth
I mean that those points are particularly subversive and revealing.
St37One 6 months ago
@St37One problem is that feminists would turn it around and say that women were seen as weak and needed protection, once again, blaming men for being "sexist". I am sure you have heard similar "reasoning" from women! If you buy her dinner, you are sexist for thinking she can't pay. If you open her door, you are sexist for thinking she was weak! If you don't do those things, you are not a man! Women want to play you like a yo-yo!
luckybozo1 3 weeks ago
This film describes my childhood pretty well, during my childhood I've felt that I been at the mercy of women, I've always felt as I had to get their approval wich forced me into a badly shaped mold of how I should act/look/be as a man. This made me later on very confused of hwo I am really am. I never developed a identity on my own. I'ts not until recently I've started to understand where the fear for women originated from. All this has taken its toll on my selfesteem for a long time.
Zer0n3 6 months ago
You'd be surprised to know that you have a lot in common with feminism. I think men shouldn't be pushed into being the masculine stereotype, and that the watering down of entrenched masculine/feminine roles liberates men to express themselves and support each other. I don't agree that men should lose their children in a divorce or be treated like paedophiles, but this is the case because society views women as the primary carers of children.
DancingHedwig 6 months ago
@DancingHedwig Please take your misunderstanding elsewhere. "A lot in common on with Feminism", indeed.
This isn't about the concept of manufactured roles and stereotypes that you are evidently fixated upon (typical amongst Feminists), this is about the sustained attack against MANHOOD not "masculinity".
SEX, not GENDER, is the issue at hand.
I don't suffer fools gladly, particularly those that lack comprehension both of my work and the nature of Feminism to the level you display here.
manwomanmyth 6 months ago 2
@manwomanmyth With all due respect, surely 'feminism' should be defined by feminists themselves?
As a feminist, I am very much on your side, and don't think that 'men' or 'manhood' warrant persecution. I am in favour of gender equality, as I'm sure you are, so I don't see how attacking feminism is helping your cause.
DancingHedwig 6 months ago
@DancingHedwig Feminists should define themselves. I suspect that if more did, and actually examined their pre-packaged beliefs, they would cease parroting hatred and disavow themselves of their toxic ideology.
However, I will also define them as I have found them to be, as they inflict their particularly virulent form of gynocentrism on my environment:
Feminism is a victim ideology explicitly advocating female supremacy.
Feminists (i.e. you) are part of the problem and are not on my side.
manwomanmyth 6 months ago
@manwomanmyth So despite the fact that I agree with you on many counts, I'm not on your side? That's not a very effective way of gathering support for your cause, just sayin'.
Unfortunately, gender inequality comes pre-packaged, not my ideology. I think that we've matured enough to abandon misogyny/misandry slandering, and can work together to achieve gender equality.
DancingHedwig 6 months ago
@DancingHedwig I'm not interested in what you agree with. Other MRA's may wish to entertain Feminists, but I'm not one of them. Good luck elsewhere.
As for "inequality comes pre-packaged", this is what I mean when I say you are part of the problem. The eternal chip on the shoulder, the manufactured oppression of the past, the struggle by valiant Feminists (like yourself, no doubt) to make everything "equal"... except, nothing is EVER enough. There can be no end point with eternal victimhood.
manwomanmyth 6 months ago
@manwomanmyth You agree with me that gender inequality exists; I can see this from your videos, yet we both come at it from a different perspective. As a feminist I would argue that gender inequality disproportionately affects women, and so men suffer as a result. Naturally as women are about 50% of the population, what affects one gender is bound to affect the other. This is not an 'eternal victimhood' by any means, as it can be rectified.
DancingHedwig 6 months ago
@DancingHedwig If you think you are up to it, visit here - gynotheory.blogspot.com - and read lecture 2: "The Same Old Story"
Whilst you perseverance here is impressive, your ideas are not, for reasons I have established in a range of films on this channel. My videos speak for themselves and we have nothing further to discuss.
Goodbye.
manwomanmyth 6 months ago
@manwomanmyth If denial is your bent, I guess I have nothing more to say to you either.
I appreciate the videos however, and will continue to watch them, if only to have a look at a vastly different perspective. Thank you also for the link - I'll check it out. Catch ya.
DancingHedwig 6 months ago
Great work! Once again, I feel I've learned something from your videos.
MermaidsAreNice 6 months ago
@RichardRich1989 Dear Richard, I'm race-positive in that I think all races have a right to exist. But, if my race flushes itself down the toilet of history, I don't care what happens to everyone left behind. Race is not my only identifier, but, it's strong enough to make me shrug my shoulders at whatever femi-nazi multicult regime takes over from us. Enjoy your eco-windmills and singing kumbaya.
CplFerro 6 months ago
this reminds of what my friend did, I told him I like My Little Pony, and he was like "EWW gay!" and I felt really pissed that he made that connection.
spoogeling 7 months ago
@spoogeling My Little Pony? Yep. Pretty gay. Not "I like cock" kind of gay. More like the "uncool and prancing ridiculous" sort of gay. In my line of work, we constantly trash each other with insults that include being called "gay," but it has nothing to do with homosexuality. With us, it's not meant as truly disparaging whatsoever. It's more about knowing that you are solid with your brothers. This includes the gay guys on my crew, btw. I get ribbed for being a sucker for cats. Uber-gay? Maybe!
CJC1295DAC 7 months ago
@CJC1295DAC no, he literally meant homosexual.
spoogeling 7 months ago
@spoogeling Well then that's messed up and maybe he needs to reign in sissy words like "eww." Sort of like he's channelling his inner 13 year old mall-tart. Sorry to hear you branded gay for watching a fucking cartoon. What is he, the "gay-police?" Have sex with his sister. That'll show him.
CJC1295DAC 7 months ago
@RichardRich1989 I always mention that when a feminist brings up the argument.
I tell them that "they think its sexist if there is places that only men can hang out, yet you do not think its sexist for places where only women can hang out".
Course calling them out on their hypocrisy will not be enough sadly.
There is been a literal witch hunt on male organizations and clubs, while female organizations and clubs have sky rocketed, and continue to flourish.
ManSpeakOut 7 months ago 3
are you woman enough to swallow without gagging? is that what I think it meant or am I just sick minded?
spoogeling 7 months ago
You covered the mentality and standards I been following half of my life.
I build myself the way I see fit and not the way women want me to be.
Through my 20 years of life I faced much disapproval from women, even from my own mother as well. I been called gay, wimp, and other titles many times.
and most of these women know exactly what they're doing when they shame men this way.
They judge and shape men according to how they will be effected.
ManSpeakOut 7 months ago 5
@ManSpeakOut Well said.
manwomanmyth 7 months ago
itv4 sounds just like our Spike TV in America
KMFCM 7 months ago
@RichardRich1989 Cheers. You put it well saying: "too many women seek to take away our breathing spaces where we can be simply be men".
More men need to realise the importance of male-only spaces and not fall for the lie that this is somehow against women. Women, you'll notice, don't have any problem excluding men wherever they feel like it.
manwomanmyth 7 months ago 4
@manwomanmyth Dear mwm, et al: You can't win this battle without recognising that identity can only be recognised with like, not with other. And that means including heterosexuals, whites, Christians as meriting their own distinct "spaces." It's not just men being liquified, it's sexuality, race, religion, and so forth.
CplFerro 7 months ago 3
@manwomanmyth I decided to stop having this conversation once you decided what I was for me.
NialWhat 7 months ago
@NialWhat Correction: YOU decided what you are, as evidence by your comments.
manwomanmyth 7 months ago 3
I see a comment regarding how we are too late to do anything. I wonder at this, just because the collective shoulders of men have been broad enough to bear this garbage for as long as they have doesn't mean they will forever. Men will try to achieve anything; particularly if someone told them they couldn't. To my mind this means that all the hate mongering by misandrists will ultimately lead to their own downfall. Rather than being too late, I look at it's end as "when" not "if."
MTguy1 7 months ago
Great video, I like the Bill Burr clip especially. He's a treasure...a man who tells it like it is. My favorite quote from him, "Rub one out, who gives a fuck?"
Torgo1969 7 months ago
@manwomanmyth I agree that feminists have female centric perspectives, and agendas, however I didn't bring feminism into the argument for a few reasons. One my complaints have nothing to do with feminism, and two I do not consider myself a feminist as I wish for social justice for both men and women.
With the 'failed attempts' comment I was trying to say for every piece of legislation that passes many more fail.
You say that I have an unsound grasp on reality, but do not elaborate, please do.
NialWhat 7 months ago
@NialWhat I classify YOU as a Feminist and female-centrist strictly based on your comments here.
You speak of yet more legislation for women that fails to pass. You want more? You expect more? Yet you claim to wish for "social justice".
Name one item of legislation passed to help men. Tell me the name of a UN organisation that aims to help men and boys around the world (hint: google "UN Women").
This is your unsound grasp of reality: you watch THIS film and proceed to talk about MORE for women.
manwomanmyth 7 months ago 29
Great film. I agree with what Harry says that a handful of people get benefited from doing a "divide and conquer" job on society. Even feminism was created for such purposes. If women are not at home taking care of the children, then the one true influence for them is schools, who belong to goverments.
bbbbbb222222 7 months ago
@manwomanmyth I personally disagree with the appropriateness of the generalization. They have sizes, and there is a difference between generalizing a community, or a movement versus an entire gender. That is a lot of people, and furthermore a lot of unique cases.
Also, yes there are initiatives in place centered on women's interests, but they were pushed through after numerous failed attempts, and passed for a variety of legal/political reasons, not necessarily moral/ethical reasons.
NialWhat 7 months ago
@NialWhat Disagreement is fine, unfounded though it may be. Your business.
However, to talk about "failed attempts" for women's initiatives, it's difficult to know how to respond because you seem to have a very unsound grasp of the reality all around you.
On my website I describe "female-centrism" - the high prevalence within women and Feminists to see the world ONLY as it affects women, regardless of the similar or worse effects on men. Your comment here perfectly illustrates this phenomenon.
manwomanmyth 7 months ago 3
This sounds like it could be feminist propaganda!
"Men have to change!"
"Men need to tall about their feelings!"
"Men need women more that women need men!"
MrWatchdawg77 7 months ago
@MrWatchdawg77 I hear you, but don't confuse positive analysis of men with disparagement. I would never do that.
Erin said her piece and Harry had his things to say about what he sees happening in the men's movement and with the psychology of men. There's no back-stabbing here. It's about different opinions and what needs to happen and, yes, what might need to change to some degree within men, to improve our situation. Let's face it, if things stay the same, it's not tenable going forwards.
manwomanmyth 7 months ago
Here in the States, we have one club that woman actually prefer to be men only and would probably be outraged if it was any other way. The club I speak of is Selective Service.
kiybro 7 months ago 27
@kiybro Yes. Unless I hear a woman demanding Equality with respect to the military draft (along with all her other complaints) I refuse to give a damn and I refuse to listen further.
Torgo1969 7 months ago
@kiybro As much as I like the -idea- of women in the military. I really don't want to see women who, by and large, are less physically capable in the battlefield. I can do without the sea of female bodies just for the sake of proving a point. If you want to win a war, you need to put men in there, especially when they're going to be pitted against other men. There's a reason why you never see women in the Special Forces of the military.
SoggyPizzaPockets1 6 months ago
@SoggyPizzaPockets1 I don't think women should have to sign up for selective service because no one should have to sign up for selective service. This is just an example of how men are actually the oppressed ones. I would have rather been a house wife in the 20th century than to be sent out to die in the trenches of Gallipoli or the beaches of Normandy.
kiybro 6 months ago
@MrBastilleDay I do not believe that it helps men, in fact I think that this predisposes men to distrusting women. If men want to have their issues voiced and taken seriously they should find allies of both genders, rather than alienating one of them.
I suppose my largest issue is that they imply that all women are manipulating rather than some.
Also, (because it's not as if there aren't seven ideas going on right now) I also disagree with their characterization of men.
NialWhat 7 months ago
@manwomanmyth I am interested in how both genders are represented, and personally I think that this presentation does a disservice to both.
My 'painting' remark was in regards to how I feel that the commentators in the movie generalize an entire gender, approximately 3.5 billion people. They do the same to men as well, just in a different way.
There are definitely more people aware of 'woman problems', but it doesn't mean they give a damn.
NialWhat 7 months ago
@NialWhat I frequently encounter people who tell me that generalising about the sexes, particularly women, is never valid. Everyone's an individual; not all women are like that (NAWALT) etc.
However, generalisations are perfectly fine where appropriate and they are made where appropriate.
You agree with the obvious when you say that women have their issues acknowledged, but then you deny the obvious: tax-payer funded bodies, UN missions and Presidential initiatives all give a very large "damn".
manwomanmyth 7 months ago 2
Yes men have a raw deal, but women also deal with their own issues, and stereotypes. Painting women as manipulative, invisible, puppet-masters helps neither gender.
I appreciate some of the issues the doc brought up. Some of these things I honestly never thought about before, but the whole thing leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
NialWhat 7 months ago
@NialWhat I couldn't say you are more wrong. "Painting" women as these things helps the MALE gender very much if so many women truly are that way.
MrBastilleDay 7 months ago
@NialWhat You said: "Yes men have a raw deal, but women also deal with their own issues and stereotypes". Not correct. The world knows about, cares about and actively deals with issues that negatively affect women. The world doesn't know, or care, or do anything about issues that negatively affect men.
That's what it's all about and is why this channel exists. It's not about "painting" women as anything.
How typical that someone watches this film and wants to talk about the perception of women.
manwomanmyth 7 months ago 5
Makes me think!!! Personally, I think every person has a right to be the way he is and set him or herself free of all stereotypes. The way I see it, I am a man, regardless of my sexuality. I am gay, and I certainly see myself as a man, I have never wanted to be effeminate. What makes a man, a man? Society has certainly defined it rather narrowly. In fact, I do think men have it got worse than women. I am a man even though I may have a nurturing side. It's not a feminine side. That's misguided.
neighbor1961 7 months ago
Has Harry written any books?
WhiteStar11111 7 months ago
@WhiteStar11111 Not as yet, but I'd buy 10 copies if he did.
manwomanmyth 7 months ago 2
I walk though the same park everyday because it takes time off my trip home. One day a woman looked at me and asked me not to walk though the park because there was children playing. I said " its a public park I have every right to be here" it was only afterwords did i think ....did she just Insinuate I was a Pedophile ? its very true I am Afraid of children and wont touch them because i am Afraid of accusations now even more so. my life would be ruined just by the accusation.
neapals 7 months ago 3
Added to my favorites.
YesIamJames 7 months ago
I like the fact goodfella videos seem to drowned in feminist comments and yet I rarely see those attempts in manwomanmyth's mone. Perhaps the fact he clearly much more organised and reacts more as well as haveing a bigger base scares them off.
Sulvuss 7 months ago
Keep the great work going on.
German1184 7 months ago
great episode! (:
HardCoreKing360 7 months ago
What are they eating and drinking. Thats andrew guy and the other one. The light skinned black guy and the darkskined black guy. His mother did physically beat him beat his eye lazy.
smoking1212 7 months ago
Great job, man. It's good to see you producing again.
sirskeptic 7 months ago
Another great video.
But I must strongly disagree with Harry on two points:
1-I believe it is women who need men and relationship with men far more than men do. While men may need sex more than women, women seem to crave marriage and babies more than men. Women have a harder time being alone than men.
2-I think it's actually an advantage that we don't relate things just to us as "men" (unlike women), because that enables us to build and run societies for everyone's benefits, not just us men.
Vebinz 7 months ago 5
@Vebinz Regarding 1, this is difficult. I know men who do and don't need to be in relationships. I'm on the fence with that one and have just presented Harry's and Erin's views as they gave them. However, he's spot on as regards emotional needs; men DO need to find methods of satisfying their human need for intimacy without relying solely on women. That is a problem and it's being exploited.
2) It is a double-edged sword; we can do great things but we're paying too heavy a price.
manwomanmyth 7 months ago 3
I really like this vid; I think some of the scenes with the three guys chatting could be cut down though. Some very good points are made, but can these guys really be said to be speaking for everyone? It gets a bit too chatty, especially when there's some interrupting going on. I still think this is brilliant insightful work.
amido7 7 months ago
@amido7 I agree about cutting down. I found this a tricky subject to deal with and the nature of it meant that it's ended up a bit long, a bit rambling and often not as tightly edited as I would like.
The guys chatting was left in (interruptions and all) because it's an exploration of the subject rather than some definitive concept that can be just neatly presented.
I appreciate your comment on this and be aware that I'll be doing better edited stuff in "bitesize" lengths in the near future.
manwomanmyth 7 months ago
Rape is not linked to porn. Rape is almost as old as humanity itself. Women were being raped in ancient Rome, long before cameras were invented to film sex acts. In fact, that's where the word "rape" comes from, the Latin word meaning, "to seize."
laughingstalk 7 months ago
Hello Sir, I really respect your effort to make these videos but lets get real here.
Most of your friends or subscribers are just internet warriors who would DARE NOT point out the flaws of feminism in public or fight against it openly. U have no influence in mass media or government.
Its too late now, the damage has been done. Women will continue to follow the toxic feminist ideas and give men more misery. Their is no going back.
All hope is lost. Why fight when we men cant win.
TimeGod12 7 months ago
@TimeGod12 just do your own thing, don't marry, don't have kids save your money and look after yourself
Zac6230 7 months ago 7
@Zac6230 God bless you sir
MrBastilleDay 7 months ago
@TimeGod12 I think I fully understand what you mean and perhaps a little of how you feel. Every MRA who has spent a deal of time in this fight has thought or said similar things: "It's overwhelming, we can't do anything, there's no point, Feminism's stranglehold over our politicians is too strong, it's too late" etc.
That may be so, but it probably isn't.
It is not the end of the game.
Whilst Feminism is still INCREDIBLY attractive to women and many men, change is happening and will continue.
manwomanmyth 7 months ago 4
@TimeGod12 because we're men, and the future is always changing. the thing about feminism is that as long as they rely govt, feminism is sinking ship. it's self defeating. and if feminists STOP relying o the govt, then there really isn't any opposition for MRA's. either way, we win. just fight, and be patient. you'll see.
JackofOneTrade567 7 months ago
i disagree. the amount of women a man can attract is a good measuring stick of how manly he is. i also think one of the biggest problems with feminism is that they tried to define themselves independently of us, all the while relying on us just as much, if not more than they have in the past. i don't understand why ppl rebel against their ancient gender roles. they're natural. the only reason women were able to rebel was because of the prosperity men created.
JackofOneTrade567 7 months ago
@JackofOneTrade567 and what is a natural GENDER ROLE??? please explain this to me...
YoungRaWarrior 7 months ago
@YoungRaWarrior the ones we fell into for thousands of years.
JackofOneTrade567 7 months ago
@JackofOneTrade567 such as...?
YoungRaWarrior 7 months ago
@YoungRaWarrior *rollseyes*
get to the point already.
JackofOneTrade567 7 months ago
@JackofOneTrade567 I am asking you a question but you will not answer it...
YoungRaWarrior 7 months ago
@YoungRaWarrior do you mean the roles such as...man goes to work, he is strong, fearless, emotion-less, and "manly"...woman stay at home, takes care of children, feed family,clean home, she is weak,emotional,dependant...?
YoungRaWarrior 7 months ago
@JackofOneTrade567 totally false when you get older you'll see that being a stud is cool for young guys then you realize there is more to life
Zac6230 7 months ago 2
@Zac6230 im saying the amount of women you attract is a good measuring stick for how manly you are, not that women should be the end all be all. in fact, not treating women like they are the end all be all to life is a part of being a man. the less masculine you are, the more you obsess over women, because you lack a sense of self.
JackofOneTrade567 7 months ago
@JackofOneTrade567 This is not about "gender roles" it's about MANHOOD. Manhood is not a "role" it is a state of being.
"Manly" is not a term coined by men, it's one used by women to describe behaviour that suits women i.e chivalry, sweep-her-off-her-feet, grab the restaurant bill before she even sees it, come to her rescue in some fashion etc. No man EVER describes another man as "manly".
cont'd
manwomanmyth 7 months ago 7
@manwomanmyth A man is no less of a man if he is not attractive to women. If a man DOES judge his manhood by the number of females attracted to him, there's a good chance he has the wrong priorities.
manwomanmyth 7 months ago 6
@manwomanmyth you misunderstood. women should never be the priority. being masculine means not putting women on pedestals. being masculine means putting personal growth over women. acting like this will attract more women, which is what i mean by the amount of women you attract is a good indicator of how masculine you are being. lemme just say though, that even if women are attracted to you, it is not in their nature to make the first move, so you may not notice female attraction.
JackofOneTrade567 7 months ago
@JackofOneTrade567 I'm not sure I have misunderstood. Regardless, there is not necessarily a link between masculinity and attractiveness to women, at least not in the way you suggest here.
Whilst I agree that a man who develops himself in various ways and does not make women his focus will generally be more attractive to women, he also might not. The interest of women bears little if any relation to his development as a man and is therefore not a measure of him.
manwomanmyth 7 months ago 5
@manwomanmyth no, trust me, it does. if you spend any time in the pickup community, you learn women generally agree on what they find attractive in men. men take risks, are assertive, confident, competent, put themselves above others, aim to grow and move forward in life, are dominant, take personal responsibility, have high standards, etc. those are masculine characteristics, and they will attract the most women, without a doubt.
JackofOneTrade567 7 months ago
@manwomanmyth i know what you're trying to do. you're trying to define men independent of women. fine, but like feminists, this ignores our biology. women are attracted to men, and men display certain characteristics. and the average man(meaning not gay or trans) will find the most fulfillment when he aligns himself with his masculine nature, which can measured by the amount of women he attracts. anyways, this is basically just us repeating ourselves. there's no point continuing.
JackofOneTrade567 7 months ago
@JackofOneTrade567 Biology is not being ignored, this whole channel makes that clear. I didn't realise you were coming from the PUA angle. Now it makes sense why you might measure a man by his status amongst women, but it also reaffirms what I was trying to make clear in the film.
PUA's may indeed measure their masculinity and development as men by the number of women they pick up. That's good as far it goes. However, the fact remains that sexual conquests measure sexual conquests, not manhood.
manwomanmyth 7 months ago
@JackofOneTrade567 I think I get what you mean. Being more developed means also having a lot more respect for yourself.
MrBastilleDay 7 months ago
@MrBastilleDay yes. that's a good point.
JackofOneTrade567 7 months ago
@manwomanmyth maybe so, but it is our role to protect women.
JackofOneTrade567 7 months ago
@JackofOneTrade567 Not anymore it isn't.
manwomanmyth 7 months ago 6
@JackofOneTrade567 Dead wrong. It is a mangina's duty to protect ADULT females. Men, OTOH, have a duty to protect themselves. While you're busy "protecting" women, who in the blackest part of Hell is protecting you?
rep5281 7 months ago 3
@rep5281 you still don't understand. im saying there's nothing wrong with our nature of protecting women. the problem came when feminists exploited that nature. protecting me from what? why do you resent traditional masculinity? the problem isn't men, the problem is feminists exploiting men.
JackofOneTrade567 7 months ago