I watch this video several times, the thing witch really stands out is the fact that motor is smaller than a 283ci. In this day and age with mega inch small blocks and a big block under 502ci is considered small this combo is way cool in my book! And you have to give that driver credit hitting those gears and a 1st and 2nd gear wheelies all in a 1/8th of mile.
@Starkster50 Exactly! I'm glad someone finally understands. This engine also put out over 700 hp. Due the math for hp per cubic inch. Think you'll be amazed.
It sounds like about 9500 r.p.m. to me. Not a big deal with a short stroke SBC, you just need titanium valves and some other good stuff. Have you ever seen the rods in a FORMULA 1 engine (overhead cams) that run about 18,000 r.p.m.? They're massive -- and they have to be to take that much r.p.m.
@jcstumpy1 a Cosworth F1 race V8 is COMPLETELY different to an old OVERHEAD VALVE V8 banger!! for a start, its got a stroke of a little over an inch and bores of 4 inches and 4 overhead camshafts and valves that are closed by AIR and not metal springs!! oh, and a regular idle is usually around 6 to 8000rpm, any slower and they just stall out. We are not saying a V8 cannot rev, we are doubting a v8 with PUSHRODS, FOLLOWERS, ROCKERS etc can rev to 12000 !!
At the end of the day all you clowns who don,t know about small cube N/A drag race engines will never get it with there RPM powerbands and quite frankly who really gives a rats arse if you ever do, the people that do understand it are the ones that count not you wafflers who don,t.
For all the fans go look up huntsville modified and listen to Bret Kepner and his comments on a 293 cubes Camaro and i quote "this car will see the far side of 11,000 RPM"
Cup motors are 358ci and operate at 10k easily. If NASCAR hadn't instituted gearing restrictions they'd run 11k plus. There's no reason a small displacement engine couldnt spin 12k without grenading if the builder knows his stuff.
Sounds a lot like 12,000 to me man, heard 8,000 from a chev SBC? This is a whole lot higher than that, look up 302 Chev, you'll get a Nelson Racing video where you can hear exactly what a similar capacity SBC sounds like at 8500.
... also jesus, I've seen BBCs doing 10,000 RPM, I'm pretty sure you can make an SBC do 12k.
12,000rpm....factory liter bikes get to like 13,500. I would put money down this isn't running past 9k, expecially with the 1/8th time it just ran. Chevy's don't have the valvetrain to do it. Go Jesel or T&D and some stupid custom high ramp high lift cam over .800" and you may get remotely close to 10k. A PURPLE cam getting up to 8500 and 650hp. HP not w/o forced induction and the rpms aren't there for an MP cam. Been there done that. Why do ppl lie about their numbers?
@jmkonie you think a sb2 headed small block wont run past 9k..... you are an idiot.. why can nascar, comp eliminator turn small block chevyengines past 9k... why can pro stock engines with 1.100" lift cams turn past 9k... i have built sb2. ro7. r5p7 engines all of these can surpass 9k and make 840hp at 8400rpm.. this sounds to me more like 11,000rpm plus or minus 500 rpm... id say pretty close to 12k. and i doubt this engine builder uses off the shelf cams for this style engine.
@jrkoff Eleven hundred thou cam lift?? so with a rocker arm ratio of say 1.5, you are telling me these engines open the valves an inch and a half?? I thought there was a set in rock theory that you didnt gain any more airflow past a valve once it had been lifted around 33% of its diameter, so even a 3 inch inlet valve wouldnt need to be opened more than an inch! I thought high rpms had big duration cams and low revvers could get away with high lift short duration? high revs and high lift= bang!
@mainman2999 my sb2.2 has 2.1:1 rocker on the intake and a 1.9 exhaust and i run .820. combustion chamber shape, valve angle, valve placement,port location. have an effect on airflow. our prostock engines use around a 2.54-2.60" example. i have a set of sbc r07 heads right here that flow 436@.900 and 439@1.00 with out the valve they flow 444cfm. with 2.19 intake valve 33% is.722. they flow 425@.700 why would i only use .722 lift? i want the most cfm possible without valvetrain instability.
@jrkoff oh ok thanks for that, but surely the valve is at "midlift of around 700 thou for a lot longer and twice, ie when opening and when closing, so airflow at low to middle valve lift is more important than when the valve is on full lift? All I was expressing was my surprise that a single cam v8 with pushrods and rockers and massive valves can rev that fast and have such big valve lift! I have a cosworth bda with 16vdohc, small 32mm valves & lift of 11mm & it takes a lot of valve spring to
@jrkoff control the valves at only 8500 rpm !! I have to have 100lb seat pressure and 200lb over the nose, so would like to see what rates that nova has if it has 2.5" valves, rockers, pushrods, followers etc to control at the stated 12000rpm, which by the way, I still dont believe !! Cheers.
@mainman2999 you would be surprised what the right parts can do. i have retyped this about 3 times, but in doing so i realized you will never take the time to believe no matter how much proof you have. Go to a drag strip and harrass a comp eliminator team.... or go to a nascar race and see 9000rpm flat tappets.
@jrkoff Ive been drag racing, and Nascar and F1, I just have not seen an ohv v8 rev to 12000, ive seen people say that theirs rev to 10000 and when ive looked at the tell-tale on their stack tach ooh, all ive seen is 9200 !! there is a hell of a lot of difference between 9000 and 12000 in terms of stress etc, Im just saying that these motors have big valves and keeping them working correctly with pushrods and rocker arms at 12000rpm seems amazing!
@mainman2999 Which is why i stated in my first comment it seams more like 11,000rpm +/- 500 rpm. when i built comp eliminator engines we could spin them 11,500rpm. that was back in 2007. it is possible to spin 12,000 but i myself do not think this is 12k. as stated earlier. to control the valvesprings at 12k you would most likely lose more horsepower than it is worth to spin 12k in the first place.
a lot of dumb fucks here like yourself, i raced 0.060 over 283 in G-gas in a 59 corvette in 1979 and launched it at 12,500 rpm and went through the traps at 12,000 rpm. no titanium, stock crank, all over the shelf parts.
@aminimaleffort oh yes of course you did big man!! actually I rather doubt you even owned a revcounter that even went up high enough to show 12500 rpm!!! oh, and as everyone knows now, thanks to you, that a stock 283 crank, and a 327 one I suppose even held in with four bolt mains is OH SO SAFE TO REV TO 12500 RPM !!!! I wont even talk about stock rods and stock end bolts, jesus some people believe their own shit!
where did I say stock rods? actually, seldom used 4 bolt blocks, and what are "end bolts", are they similar to "connecting rod bolts", looks like everyone here thinks you are an asshole. I am guessing you live in mommy and daddies house and borrow their car on friday night.
@aminimaleffort well dickshit, you understood 4 bolt mains without me spelling out main bearing retainer caps so i would assume you could understand end bolts or BIG END bolts you sad pathetic petty arsehole, you probably dont even have a car, or a life or even a job, as for "stock cranks" and "off the shelf parts" it depends who's shelf you are talking, some fancy specialist parts manufacturer or mr Chevrolet himself?. Pratt.
hahahaha, hey!, eurotrash, i see you changed your profile to Texas, yah right, if you drove a 1600 cc Ford import in Texas you would be cornholed. you forgot to take your Muslim interest videos off your site. easy give away, no Texan would have a favorite web video on Muslim issues or nigger immigrants in France. before you stick my cock in your mouth just read about class rules in G-gas then you would know. fucktard.
@mainman2999 its funny how in the other "12000 rpm nova goes it again " video its a 289 and not a 283, plus, dusternash the uploader states that it has TITANIUM VALVES etc and lists bits and pieces inside which ar FAR from STOCK, plus,if you search you tube dyno videos, you wont see a 289 or 302 or 283 rev much past 8000, 8500, and one at 9000 i think, thats A MILLION MILES away from 12000 AMINIMALEFFORT FUCKHEAD
@mainman2999 It was never a 283, it was a 276 and now a 289 inch engine. 4.030 inch bore block and and a 2.700 stroke crank is how the 276 was made. The 289 was with a 2.8 stroke!
Czech republic, hahahahaha, eurotrash, you drive a ford escort, fucking hilarious, heh everyone, go to this fucktards site and see how this asshole roles. he drives trash!
@jrkoff Eleven hundred thou cam lift?? so with a rocker arm ratio of say 1.5, you are telling me these engines open the valves an inch and a half?? I thought there was a set in rock theory that you didnt gain any more airflow past a valve once it had been lifted around 33% of its diameter, so even a 3 inch inlet valve wouldnt need to be opened more than an inch! I thought high rpms had big duration cams and low revvers could get away with high lift short duration? high revs and high lift= bang!
@jrkoff yea everybody knows that cup engines like the r5p7 358 combos run about 850hp @ 9k. Pro stock engines can run high rpms too, yes, at over 1" of lift cuz that's where the power is on engines like that. They also run like high 3 to low 4 sec 1/8 miles. This ran in the 6.53, which is slower than a stock stroke factory headed pump gas 340 can do (ask me how I know). But it SOUNDS like 12k to you....Well, if YOU say so then it must. Keep buliding your 8 sec small blocks LOL
@jrkoff yea everybody knows that cup engines like the r5p7 358 combos run about 850hp @ 9k. Pro stock engines can run high rpms too, yes, at over 1" of lift cuz that's where the power is on engines like that. They also run like high 3 to low 4 sec 1/8 miles. This ran in the 6.53, which is slower than a stock stroke factory headed pump gas 340 can do (ask me how I know). But it SOUNDS like 12k to you....Well, if YOU say so then it must. Keep buliding your 8 sec small blocks LOL
To all of who don't believe that the launch is at LEAST at 10,000 rpm.....You have NO idea what you are hearing.period.You can disagree with me ALL you want,but there will be 15 more who will tell you the same thing I just did.Listen...learn...don't be someone who is looking for reactions.There are way too many morons on here.'Nuf said!
@dusternash Er, if the launch is 10,200 and the shift is at 9,800 as you say, where exactly is this 12000 rpm happening? oh, its not is it!!! Im going to see if I can get a friend of a friend who works for an F1 team to see if he can analyze the sound track to determine the revs, they record other teams cars at race tracks and can work out the oppositions revs etc, so as long as this video is'nt speeded up, they may be able to get the exact revs, and do away with these 12k whispers
@mainman2999 like i said, the launch is 10,200 and shift is 9,800 which is very impressive. I never said it hit 12000 rpm. that is simply the title to the video. I uploaded it for everyone to see, not for an argument to start. Why must you be so technical.
One thing some people seem confused about. The Valvetrain is the weak link in domestic V8s. Youve got a bunch of relatively heavy reciprocating parts in the valvetrain. The bottom end of these motors are rarely the problem. Pistons and rods get blamed for failing, when most likely its valve-float that crashed a valve into the piston. The ability to rev this high comes from lightweight solid lifters, shaft-mounted rockers, fancy valves and retainers, and some hellacious triple valve springs
Memories of Dennis Mitchell of Huntsville Dragway with a 64 Nova, 277 SBC, twisting 12,000! Car wasn't super fast but DAMN what a show he put on! And Ratso II, 1967 396 Camaro, 4speed, coming off the line at 8800 rpms! THAT was impressive!
is it a pushrod or a dohc? (or is this question stupid.. how much can the ohv systems be lightened, afaik they are why american v8's don't usually rev high?)
@moptim The American v8's that don't usually rev high are stock, off-the-lot motors in stock, off-the-lot cars...aftermarket cylinder heads are really the key if you want to rev high. That and a shorter-stroke motor, lightweight pistons don't hurt either lol
Don´t you people have ears, ever heard a nascar engine. Those runs at 7500-9000 rpm. Sounds like idle compared to this. That was at least 10000, probably more.
@1355550 no way in hell thats 8000 rpm, go watch 20 other videos of 8000 rpm novas and compare the sound of the redline or any car at 8000rpm, that thing revs higher than my yfz450 and it redlines around 10500.
500cu" pro stock engines hit 11000 rpm. A well build racing sm.block V8 can make 12000 rpm. for a short period. But all of these dragrace engines don't last long.
A small capacity N/A engine needs the revs to make power
Its funny how people that dont own a 10,000 rpm sbc seem to know it all. I wish I knew everything like you. I have seen the recall tack on 2 different cars go to 10,300 rpm. (7500 rpm) you better stick to gokarts cause you havent a clue to the music of a high rpm sbc. (v8s dont rev high thats why they peak so quickly) Your clueless go to the local dirt track and watch some v8 sprints, they turn 9000 plus and make power all the way.
I think that might have been around 7500 rpm,,only if the moon and 3 of the planets were lined up with the center of the milky way,,,but that was a good run ...
@digby8787 small block chevys under 300 cubic inches were reving past 13,000 rpm back when i was racing in the early 1970's. so tell me WHO's lying ? v8's can go well beyond this rpm with todays technology easily.
@rickeyrayburn Race engines have to have a service life, albeit rather short, F1 roughly 1000 miles.
So if a drag engine lasts 10 miles, they can operate ON the metallurgical limits for piston/con rod acceleration, crankshaft fatigue limits, bearing strength, etc.
Unofficial rule of thumb is 25m/s mean piston speed, so even if the limit for drag racing was 30m/s those 'small blocks' were in actuality, short stroke 'big blocks'.
@digby8787 lol man , a Formula 1 v8 goes up to 19-20k rpm . and i own a 340 1964 Barracuda / Alum Piston And Rods , Alum Heads , Mopar Purple Cam . and it goes up to 8500Rpm And Produces About 650hp / 700lbs Torque , you'll never hit this with a inline 4 ;)
@tienshenhan86 Lots of sanctioned tracks use only 1/8th mile. Might have been a test and tune weekend for him. He still got 60', 330', and 660' - all relevant.
Regarding the shifting argument below. In my opinion. You want to shift so that your peak hp is right in the middle between shift points. You want the greatest amount over average hp across your shift band. Move peak hp to the beginning or the end of the shift band your average hp across the band is lower.
For the idiots arguing, I know the 700HP Blown ZO6 Vette runs near that similar time at the Farmington Drags in NC, so a 276 cranking those times is screaming! Sounds great to me. Then again, mine is only 2.8L (168CID) so remember that 'small' is relative, guys!
I don't know about the 12k, but that mouse motor is definitely wound up reeeeel tight. I'm assuming that the block is a 4.00 inch bore 327-350, which would make the stroke 2.745 inches to be 276 C.I.D. Whatever the case, the car is a big time hi revving screaming machine!
I wouldnt even want to be close to that thing if something came un-cunted! i swear. Turnin that many rpm's is badass, But scary as hell. Must be a well built motor.
@xenoo4life That was definitely 12k. Nascar spins to just shy of 10k (with a motor nearly 100 cid bigger) and this Nova was beyond that. Listen to a DZ 302 motor at 8k and you'll hear the difference.
@xenoo4life You dont think that thing was screaming your an idiot!. My all forged 383 can hit 7200. And i have heard 9k before. This thing is definately above 10k. I guarantee
@xenoo4life Listen to it again, and turn your speakers up. One thing you must remember is that this mill is only 276 ci, or a paltry 4.5L Small engines such as this one, will not make near the torque of another mill at say, 327", given the same type of build. So, extreme piston speed is paramount to making adequate power to propel the car to 6.50s in the 1/8th The ET alone, for this Nova, is evidence of at least 600 hp...
@xenoo4life ...and if you're gonna make 2.2hp/ci, from just 276", you can count on peak power coming in well passed 10K. And that means shifting even higher than that.
@madtownmadman u are a flippin aretard! u dont shift after your power band, y shift after uve stoped making power and ur on the downward side? And yeah u can get those r's out of a smallblock, the copo camaro was a 11000 redline car from the manufacturer's showroom floor
@NOS1088 Alright dipshit, I'm gonna explain this as simply as I can. If you shift precisely at peak hp, the engine will be below the rpm at which peak horsepower is made, when the next highest gear is engaged. If you shift AFTER peak power is made, the engine will be right at peak power, once again, after that gear is engaged. How far beyond the peak you shift, is dependant upon the ratio of the next gear. For example, an LS7 makes peak power at 6200rpm, but are best shifted at 6900-7000
@madtownmadman wrong again in drag racing u use a stall converter to keep u in the power after 6200 your power drops considerably, also your torque is droping well before 6200 and the best shift for your motor is dependent on two things A- your power band of the came B- the flash jpoint of your converter thus.... if your cam makes the most power (aka torque) around 4000 and hp at 6200 u should shift 6000 to 6500 the torque converter will bring u back up to were u need to be.
@NOS1088 in that case i would use a 3500 stall that flashes around 3000 so you will be right in the money were the motor is pulling hard because torque moves u not hp
@NOS1088 Need I explain any more? A word of advise; be sure what you're saying is true, with considerable certainty, before you hit the post button. Proof reading your post, while checking for type-o's, is also helpful, aretard.
@flyjum These cars run #/cu in. with no breakout. If you add 30 cubes, in a 10.5# class, you'll have to add 315# to the chassis or go way down on index. Here's the rules. eddyvilleraceway and click on modified class racing
if the stroke of engine A is 4 times the stroke of engine B(the F! engine) then the mean piston speed of engine A will be 4 times higher than that of engine B at the same RPM which makes his statement correct. However, F1 engines really do rev up only to 20k(18k since limited), which makes you correct also:)
Not sure where you're getting your engine weights from but a big block chev with cast iron intake and exhaust weighs in dressed at about 650lbs, a small block with same weighs in at about 550 give or take a couple of pounds. not quite the 600 lb difference quoted here. Do your homework kids.
i don't think a trans brake button will be used in this case. line lock and left leg was though.you are right about sounding serious,thats one cool sound.
really? thats pretty amazing, did it say 276cid? is that like a short stroke 327 or something? ( im in the uk so im not up on u.s motors ) so it still has a single cam in the vee, pushrods and ohv or what? I cant see an ohv v8 with big valves etc running at 12000rpm, if it had ohc or dohc and an expensive bottom end then its possible i guess.
Im guessing a 276 is a de-stroked 283 or a really de-stroked 302/327. Is still a single cam pushrod motor. Pro Stock motors are 500 CID Big Blocks and turn 10,500 RPMs so its easier to turn more with a Small Block. That motor is a high dollar motor and no doubt has all the best stuff in it. The key is to lighten everything in the rotating assembly as much as possible and build it to some insane tolerances. So yes it is possible to turn that many R's in a small block with no problem.
"DUMMER d" who the fuck asked you shithead? If you can read, you will see that I didnt say that i knew a lot about them, that was why i was fucking asking in the first place and i got a perfectly good reply from "unseenpunk1906" who has my total respect for that, you obviously get pleasure out of insulting people because it makes you feel "big" you sad little trailer trash. Oh, and surely you mean "re-tard" and not "ra-tard"? Thick as shit too obviously, so go play in the traffic tosser.
Thanks for the respect!! I tried to answer you the best I could, but im just a chassis builder. I asked the engine builders at MadCap Racing Engines next door to my shop and they said what I told you. And dont worry about Trolls like "Dummered" he may know, but has to be a dick about it just to be a dick, lol
Good lord lmao,thats sounds sooooo good!!!!!!!
TheBucknutts 4 days ago
I watch this video several times, the thing witch really stands out is the fact that motor is smaller than a 283ci. In this day and age with mega inch small blocks and a big block under 502ci is considered small this combo is way cool in my book! And you have to give that driver credit hitting those gears and a 1st and 2nd gear wheelies all in a 1/8th of mile.
Starkster50 1 month ago
@Starkster50 Exactly! I'm glad someone finally understands. This engine also put out over 700 hp. Due the math for hp per cubic inch. Think you'll be amazed.
dusternash 1 month ago
10k, 11k or 12k, it sounds fucking SICK eitherway!
Aloke234 2 months ago
dont know bout12 grand but she was wound up
MrGroovy888 2 months ago
6.67
dusternash 2 months ago
what rear gears? very steep i can tell.
BLACKLACDTS 2 months ago
12000? not a chance..
mcmal1bu 3 months ago
It sounds like about 9500 r.p.m. to me. Not a big deal with a short stroke SBC, you just need titanium valves and some other good stuff. Have you ever seen the rods in a FORMULA 1 engine (overhead cams) that run about 18,000 r.p.m.? They're massive -- and they have to be to take that much r.p.m.
23tbob 4 months ago
v8s can run up to 21000 soooo Think its B.S check out the cosworth vid its f...ing scary
jcstumpy1 4 months ago 2
@jcstumpy1 a Cosworth F1 race V8 is COMPLETELY different to an old OVERHEAD VALVE V8 banger!! for a start, its got a stroke of a little over an inch and bores of 4 inches and 4 overhead camshafts and valves that are closed by AIR and not metal springs!! oh, and a regular idle is usually around 6 to 8000rpm, any slower and they just stall out. We are not saying a V8 cannot rev, we are doubting a v8 with PUSHRODS, FOLLOWERS, ROCKERS etc can rev to 12000 !!
mainman2999 3 months ago
Man, wouldn't it be nice if I could get my 406 to rev like that?
Sktrtrsh 4 months ago 2
At the end of the day all you clowns who don,t know about small cube N/A drag race engines will never get it with there RPM powerbands and quite frankly who really gives a rats arse if you ever do, the people that do understand it are the ones that count not you wafflers who don,t.
For all the fans go look up huntsville modified and listen to Bret Kepner and his comments on a 293 cubes Camaro and i quote "this car will see the far side of 11,000 RPM"
Gavin84w 4 months ago 2
@Gavin84w Idiot.
AntiSemantic1 3 months ago
@AntiSemantic1 fucktard
Gavin84w 3 months ago
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AntiSemantic1 3 months ago
@Gavin84w I bet your wife is ashamed of you in public. I know she loves me in private.
AntiSemantic1 3 months ago
sounds like a tricked out nitro burning weed eater
kingvic97 4 months ago 2
Cup motors are 358ci and operate at 10k easily. If NASCAR hadn't instituted gearing restrictions they'd run 11k plus. There's no reason a small displacement engine couldnt spin 12k without grenading if the builder knows his stuff.
philcbenton 5 months ago 2
Sounds a lot like 12,000 to me man, heard 8,000 from a chev SBC? This is a whole lot higher than that, look up 302 Chev, you'll get a Nelson Racing video where you can hear exactly what a similar capacity SBC sounds like at 8500.
... also jesus, I've seen BBCs doing 10,000 RPM, I'm pretty sure you can make an SBC do 12k.
Kajifox 5 months ago 2
12,000rpm....factory liter bikes get to like 13,500. I would put money down this isn't running past 9k, expecially with the 1/8th time it just ran. Chevy's don't have the valvetrain to do it. Go Jesel or T&D and some stupid custom high ramp high lift cam over .800" and you may get remotely close to 10k. A PURPLE cam getting up to 8500 and 650hp. HP not w/o forced induction and the rpms aren't there for an MP cam. Been there done that. Why do ppl lie about their numbers?
jmkonie 5 months ago 3
@jmkonie you think a sb2 headed small block wont run past 9k..... you are an idiot.. why can nascar, comp eliminator turn small block chevyengines past 9k... why can pro stock engines with 1.100" lift cams turn past 9k... i have built sb2. ro7. r5p7 engines all of these can surpass 9k and make 840hp at 8400rpm.. this sounds to me more like 11,000rpm plus or minus 500 rpm... id say pretty close to 12k. and i doubt this engine builder uses off the shelf cams for this style engine.
jrkoff 5 months ago 2
@jrkoff Eleven hundred thou cam lift?? so with a rocker arm ratio of say 1.5, you are telling me these engines open the valves an inch and a half?? I thought there was a set in rock theory that you didnt gain any more airflow past a valve once it had been lifted around 33% of its diameter, so even a 3 inch inlet valve wouldnt need to be opened more than an inch! I thought high rpms had big duration cams and low revvers could get away with high lift short duration? high revs and high lift= bang!
mainman2999 5 months ago
@mainman2999 my sb2.2 has 2.1:1 rocker on the intake and a 1.9 exhaust and i run .820. combustion chamber shape, valve angle, valve placement,port location. have an effect on airflow. our prostock engines use around a 2.54-2.60" example. i have a set of sbc r07 heads right here that flow 436@.900 and 439@1.00 with out the valve they flow 444cfm. with 2.19 intake valve 33% is.722. they flow 425@.700 why would i only use .722 lift? i want the most cfm possible without valvetrain instability.
jrkoff 4 months ago 2
@jrkoff oh ok thanks for that, but surely the valve is at "midlift of around 700 thou for a lot longer and twice, ie when opening and when closing, so airflow at low to middle valve lift is more important than when the valve is on full lift? All I was expressing was my surprise that a single cam v8 with pushrods and rockers and massive valves can rev that fast and have such big valve lift! I have a cosworth bda with 16vdohc, small 32mm valves & lift of 11mm & it takes a lot of valve spring to
mainman2999 4 months ago
@jrkoff control the valves at only 8500 rpm !! I have to have 100lb seat pressure and 200lb over the nose, so would like to see what rates that nova has if it has 2.5" valves, rockers, pushrods, followers etc to control at the stated 12000rpm, which by the way, I still dont believe !! Cheers.
mainman2999 4 months ago
@mainman2999 you would be surprised what the right parts can do. i have retyped this about 3 times, but in doing so i realized you will never take the time to believe no matter how much proof you have. Go to a drag strip and harrass a comp eliminator team.... or go to a nascar race and see 9000rpm flat tappets.
jrkoff 3 months ago
@jrkoff Ive been drag racing, and Nascar and F1, I just have not seen an ohv v8 rev to 12000, ive seen people say that theirs rev to 10000 and when ive looked at the tell-tale on their stack tach ooh, all ive seen is 9200 !! there is a hell of a lot of difference between 9000 and 12000 in terms of stress etc, Im just saying that these motors have big valves and keeping them working correctly with pushrods and rocker arms at 12000rpm seems amazing!
mainman2999 3 months ago
@mainman2999 Which is why i stated in my first comment it seams more like 11,000rpm +/- 500 rpm. when i built comp eliminator engines we could spin them 11,500rpm. that was back in 2007. it is possible to spin 12,000 but i myself do not think this is 12k. as stated earlier. to control the valvesprings at 12k you would most likely lose more horsepower than it is worth to spin 12k in the first place.
jrkoff 2 months ago
@mainman2999
a lot of dumb fucks here like yourself, i raced 0.060 over 283 in G-gas in a 59 corvette in 1979 and launched it at 12,500 rpm and went through the traps at 12,000 rpm. no titanium, stock crank, all over the shelf parts.
aminimaleffort 3 months ago
@aminimaleffort oh yes of course you did big man!! actually I rather doubt you even owned a revcounter that even went up high enough to show 12500 rpm!!! oh, and as everyone knows now, thanks to you, that a stock 283 crank, and a 327 one I suppose even held in with four bolt mains is OH SO SAFE TO REV TO 12500 RPM !!!! I wont even talk about stock rods and stock end bolts, jesus some people believe their own shit!
mainman2999 3 months ago
@mainman2999
where did I say stock rods? actually, seldom used 4 bolt blocks, and what are "end bolts", are they similar to "connecting rod bolts", looks like everyone here thinks you are an asshole. I am guessing you live in mommy and daddies house and borrow their car on friday night.
aminimaleffort 3 months ago
@aminimaleffort well dickshit, you understood 4 bolt mains without me spelling out main bearing retainer caps so i would assume you could understand end bolts or BIG END bolts you sad pathetic petty arsehole, you probably dont even have a car, or a life or even a job, as for "stock cranks" and "off the shelf parts" it depends who's shelf you are talking, some fancy specialist parts manufacturer or mr Chevrolet himself?. Pratt.
mainman2999 3 months ago
@mainman2999
hahahaha, hey!, eurotrash, i see you changed your profile to Texas, yah right, if you drove a 1600 cc Ford import in Texas you would be cornholed. you forgot to take your Muslim interest videos off your site. easy give away, no Texan would have a favorite web video on Muslim issues or nigger immigrants in France. before you stick my cock in your mouth just read about class rules in G-gas then you would know. fucktard.
aminimaleffort 3 months ago
@mainman2999 its funny how in the other "12000 rpm nova goes it again " video its a 289 and not a 283, plus, dusternash the uploader states that it has TITANIUM VALVES etc and lists bits and pieces inside which ar FAR from STOCK, plus,if you search you tube dyno videos, you wont see a 289 or 302 or 283 rev much past 8000, 8500, and one at 9000 i think, thats A MILLION MILES away from 12000 AMINIMALEFFORT FUCKHEAD
mainman2999 3 months ago
@mainman2999 It was never a 283, it was a 276 and now a 289 inch engine. 4.030 inch bore block and and a 2.700 stroke crank is how the 276 was made. The 289 was with a 2.8 stroke!
dusternash 1 month ago
@mainman2999
Czech republic, hahahahaha, eurotrash, you drive a ford escort, fucking hilarious, heh everyone, go to this fucktards site and see how this asshole roles. he drives trash!
aminimaleffort 3 months ago
@jrkoff Eleven hundred thou cam lift?? so with a rocker arm ratio of say 1.5, you are telling me these engines open the valves an inch and a half?? I thought there was a set in rock theory that you didnt gain any more airflow past a valve once it had been lifted around 33% of its diameter, so even a 3 inch inlet valve wouldnt need to be opened more than an inch! I thought high rpms had big duration cams and low revvers could get away with high lift short duration? high revs and high lift= bang!
mainman2999 5 months ago
@jrkoff yea everybody knows that cup engines like the r5p7 358 combos run about 850hp @ 9k. Pro stock engines can run high rpms too, yes, at over 1" of lift cuz that's where the power is on engines like that. They also run like high 3 to low 4 sec 1/8 miles. This ran in the 6.53, which is slower than a stock stroke factory headed pump gas 340 can do (ask me how I know). But it SOUNDS like 12k to you....Well, if YOU say so then it must. Keep buliding your 8 sec small blocks LOL
jmkonie 5 months ago
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@jrkoff yea everybody knows that cup engines like the r5p7 358 combos run about 850hp @ 9k. Pro stock engines can run high rpms too, yes, at over 1" of lift cuz that's where the power is on engines like that. They also run like high 3 to low 4 sec 1/8 miles. This ran in the 6.53, which is slower than a stock stroke factory headed pump gas 340 can do (ask me how I know). But it SOUNDS like 12k to you....Well, if YOU say so then it must. Keep buliding your 8 sec small blocks LOL
jmkonie 5 months ago
I reckon it's launching at about 9500 rpm, but it doesn't hit 12000 rpm.
nickephillips 5 months ago
i'm used to my V8's rockin like 8k for highs but god damn...thats just weird. kudo's though thats nice.
88killsyou 6 months ago
if hondas can rev to 12 with the same amount of work a v8 can too .....think :)
ltelty666 6 months ago
To all of who don't believe that the launch is at LEAST at 10,000 rpm.....You have NO idea what you are hearing.period.You can disagree with me ALL you want,but there will be 15 more who will tell you the same thing I just did.Listen...learn...don't be someone who is looking for reactions.There are way too many morons on here.'Nuf said!
seamo50s 6 months ago 8
@seamo50s Exactly! in all actuallity, the lauch is 10,200 rpm and shift is 9800
dusternash 2 months ago
@dusternash Er, if the launch is 10,200 and the shift is at 9,800 as you say, where exactly is this 12000 rpm happening? oh, its not is it!!! Im going to see if I can get a friend of a friend who works for an F1 team to see if he can analyze the sound track to determine the revs, they record other teams cars at race tracks and can work out the oppositions revs etc, so as long as this video is'nt speeded up, they may be able to get the exact revs, and do away with these 12k whispers
mainman2999 1 month ago
@mainman2999 like i said, the launch is 10,200 and shift is 9,800 which is very impressive. I never said it hit 12000 rpm. that is simply the title to the video. I uploaded it for everyone to see, not for an argument to start. Why must you be so technical.
dusternash 1 month ago
One thing some people seem confused about. The Valvetrain is the weak link in domestic V8s. Youve got a bunch of relatively heavy reciprocating parts in the valvetrain. The bottom end of these motors are rarely the problem. Pistons and rods get blamed for failing, when most likely its valve-float that crashed a valve into the piston. The ability to rev this high comes from lightweight solid lifters, shaft-mounted rockers, fancy valves and retainers, and some hellacious triple valve springs
karsown 7 months ago 2
nice song choice
Blackhell8 7 months ago 11
Holy .............
Krishilbun 7 months ago
all you can say is WOW!!!!
psychodelicdragon 7 months ago
DAMN! 0O
TheFirstBloodyNation 7 months ago
his groceries get home in a hurry
ElCamino0to60 8 months ago
Memories of Dennis Mitchell of Huntsville Dragway with a 64 Nova, 277 SBC, twisting 12,000! Car wasn't super fast but DAMN what a show he put on! And Ratso II, 1967 396 Camaro, 4speed, coming off the line at 8800 rpms! THAT was impressive!
ricklicks42 8 months ago
is it a pushrod or a dohc? (or is this question stupid.. how much can the ohv systems be lightened, afaik they are why american v8's don't usually rev high?)
moptim 8 months ago
@moptim The American v8's that don't usually rev high are stock, off-the-lot motors in stock, off-the-lot cars...aftermarket cylinder heads are really the key if you want to rev high. That and a shorter-stroke motor, lightweight pistons don't hurt either lol
DeAdiSSu3 8 months ago
@DeAdiSSu3...
Titanium piston pins too...LoL
5150jafo 7 months ago
my father has a 69, but his 454 sounds like it's about to send a piston through the hood at half that RPM, lol
iamsuperbleeder 8 months ago
jurei q era um opala
AIEUHaiuoehAIUH
ezekyew 9 months ago
man I'd love a high rpm small block. I don't care if you can go faster with a stroked out slug, revs are tasty.
laurence265 9 months ago
I can't help it, gotta do it..
IT'S OVER 9000!!!!!!
lol
LimitlessAeon619 9 months ago
gotta love 1/8 mile drags
biggdaddy2001 10 months ago
I'm a Believer!!
carsbyjeff 10 months ago
i love the sound of this car wish mine sounded like this
tracasracing 11 months ago
LOL @ all the kids!
That Dummerd guy sounds smart. All you kids should listen to him.
12,000 rpm from a destroked small block is not only possible, it's done most every weekend an NHRA or IHRA points meet is ran.
Educate yourselves. Kids.
kb9wzj 11 months ago
Don´t you people have ears, ever heard a nascar engine. Those runs at 7500-9000 rpm. Sounds like idle compared to this. That was at least 10000, probably more.
elb416ebs380 11 months ago
@elb416ebs380 ...and they do it for HOURS at a time. Not 6-10 seconds.
kb9wzj 11 months ago
@kb9wzj No argument there.
elb416ebs380 10 months ago
is that winston county drag?
kawboykody 11 months ago
SCREAMER !!!! sounds more like 8800-9500
7172971729 11 months ago
Pretty damn fast for a N/A motor with only 276 cubes!
whatnamesnottakenyet 11 months ago
does anybody know what the bore and stroke is to make 276 ci?
savagexhaley14 11 months ago
Sounds like a V8 McCulogh chainsaw.
bigmrclean 11 months ago
Yes sir,I see them leave the line at 10 grand,banging gears! Nothing like the gear jammers
bigdaddysmack72 11 months ago
That was more than 8000 rpm my God. Sounds like sex!
1355550 11 months ago 19
@1355550 What the fuck kinda sex do you have??
haha
meandmyevo 8 months ago
@meandmyevo high octane sex
faded2blak 7 months ago
@1355550 no way in hell thats 8000 rpm, go watch 20 other videos of 8000 rpm novas and compare the sound of the redline or any car at 8000rpm, that thing revs higher than my yfz450 and it redlines around 10500.
austinyoung300ex 5 months ago
High rpms or go home.
xXCannonXx 11 months ago
probably all small journal stuff.....
gypsy469 1 year ago
283 and 302 have the same stroke. So the stroke would be the same.
wheelersfitness 1 year ago
500cu" pro stock engines hit 11000 rpm. A well build racing sm.block V8 can make 12000 rpm. for a short period. But all of these dragrace engines don't last long.
A small capacity N/A engine needs the revs to make power
jrtpf 1 year ago
GOD i love that sound.
drummaboi93 1 year ago
wow... that sounds amazing
XCSEDAN 1 year ago
Is that a Chevy original displacement or is it a stroked 267? I've never heard of 276 sbc. Thanks for the answer.
couz650 1 year ago
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Its funny how people that dont own a 10,000 rpm sbc seem to know it all. I wish I knew everything like you. I have seen the recall tack on 2 different cars go to 10,300 rpm. (7500 rpm) you better stick to gokarts cause you havent a clue to the music of a high rpm sbc. (v8s dont rev high thats why they peak so quickly) Your clueless go to the local dirt track and watch some v8 sprints, they turn 9000 plus and make power all the way.
way2fast4usucker 1 year ago
I think that might have been around 7500 rpm,,only if the moon and 3 of the planets were lined up with the center of the milky way,,,but that was a good run ...
xpfuzz 1 year ago
@xpfuzz Lets be fair. Maybe 8400rpm Lol. 12000rpm I don think so and im with ya on this one. Lol.
joealaniz 11 months ago
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v8s dont rev high
thats why they peak so quickly
why lie on a youtube video?
digby8787 1 year ago
@digby8787 it's a small capacity V8 with a very short stroke, so it can rev beyond 10000rpm
Consider those V10s in F1 racing cars
LN6618 1 year ago
@digby8787 small block chevys under 300 cubic inches were reving past 13,000 rpm back when i was racing in the early 1970's. so tell me WHO's lying ? v8's can go well beyond this rpm with todays technology easily.
rickeyrayburn 1 year ago 24
@rickeyrayburn Race engines have to have a service life, albeit rather short, F1 roughly 1000 miles.
So if a drag engine lasts 10 miles, they can operate ON the metallurgical limits for piston/con rod acceleration, crankshaft fatigue limits, bearing strength, etc.
Unofficial rule of thumb is 25m/s mean piston speed, so even if the limit for drag racing was 30m/s those 'small blocks' were in actuality, short stroke 'big blocks'.
epi-eng.com/piston_engine_technology/comparison_of_cup_to_f1.htm
SparkDischarge 9 months ago
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imacowtipper1 4 months ago
@digby8787 are you deaf?
mageac 10 months ago
@digby8787 lol man , a Formula 1 v8 goes up to 19-20k rpm . and i own a 340 1964 Barracuda / Alum Piston And Rods , Alum Heads , Mopar Purple Cam . and it goes up to 8500Rpm And Produces About 650hp / 700lbs Torque , you'll never hit this with a inline 4 ;)
DubTrinity 5 months ago
12,000 rpm?i got a bridge for sale,any takers?lol.don't believe everything you kids hear.
nitrousden 1 year ago
When it revved up before the light, I got it at 9300 rpm by my calculations; from there, it's hard to say because of the Doppler effect.
randommagnum 1 year ago
Why 1/8th mile?
tienshenhan86 1 year ago
@tienshenhan86 Lots of sanctioned tracks use only 1/8th mile. Might have been a test and tune weekend for him. He still got 60', 330', and 660' - all relevant.
kb9wzj 11 months ago
Regarding the shifting argument below. In my opinion. You want to shift so that your peak hp is right in the middle between shift points. You want the greatest amount over average hp across your shift band. Move peak hp to the beginning or the end of the shift band your average hp across the band is lower.
pryski 1 year ago
LOL! The 1-2 shift is done at the 30 ft mark! Almost before it comes back down to earth!
kanukster 1 year ago
sounds VERY nice :D
moptim 1 year ago
For the idiots arguing, I know the 700HP Blown ZO6 Vette runs near that similar time at the Farmington Drags in NC, so a 276 cranking those times is screaming! Sounds great to me. Then again, mine is only 2.8L (168CID) so remember that 'small' is relative, guys!
DemonoidCFH 1 year ago
holy shit, sounded like the pistons wanted to literally escape from the block, amazing to see a pushrodded small block rev like that.
NissanTy 1 year ago
it's extraordinary!
Synsofgawd 1 year ago
He must be leaving the line at more than 9000rpm!
madtownmadman 1 year ago 2
american vtec bitchessss!!!!!
sean55719 1 year ago
It would be faster on some 10.5's
2010FightFan 1 year ago
Very Nice car! excellent job. anyone here think that car isnt capable of 12,000 Rpms knows nothing about Destroked small block chevys.
Merlin811 1 year ago
I don't know about the 12k, but that mouse motor is definitely wound up reeeeel tight. I'm assuming that the block is a 4.00 inch bore 327-350, which would make the stroke 2.745 inches to be 276 C.I.D. Whatever the case, the car is a big time hi revving screaming machine!
tripleJ1955 1 year ago
I wouldnt even want to be close to that thing if something came un-cunted! i swear. Turnin that many rpm's is badass, But scary as hell. Must be a well built motor.
Baseballstud5964 1 year ago
JoseChaves you suck. Go drive your rice rocket fag
2010CamaroLs3 1 year ago
this car sounds straight up like shiiiiit..!!!
Hondas sound the best all day Fukkkkkkkers!!!!
JoseChavez2113 1 year ago
@JoseChavez2113 Remember, a ricer is only HALF of a V8, so they only give you half the sound.
piratebobstreasure 9 months ago
That is NOT 12,000 RPM...
Maybe 8K or so....
Have you ever heard such a big engine at 12K rpm? It would scream like an F1 car...
xenoo4life 1 year ago
@xenoo4life That was definitely 12k. Nascar spins to just shy of 10k (with a motor nearly 100 cid bigger) and this Nova was beyond that. Listen to a DZ 302 motor at 8k and you'll hear the difference.
stlchucko 1 year ago
F1 cars rev to 20,000 rpms. So NO it would NOT sound like an F1 car.
bigorangetrucker 1 year ago
@xenoo4life You dont think that thing was screaming your an idiot!. My all forged 383 can hit 7200. And i have heard 9k before. This thing is definately above 10k. I guarantee
Baseballstud5964 1 year ago
@Baseballstud5964 What the other video. The description said it's only 9500 rpm.
BDS871 1 year ago
@xenoo4life Most idiotic post I think I 've came across to date.. Congrats idiot.
2010FightFan 1 year ago
@2010FightFan
naah... I'm just second... After you...
So you really think this was 12.000 RPM ? hahahha... ok... right...
xenoo4life 1 year ago
@xenoo4life Listen to it again, and turn your speakers up. One thing you must remember is that this mill is only 276 ci, or a paltry 4.5L Small engines such as this one, will not make near the torque of another mill at say, 327", given the same type of build. So, extreme piston speed is paramount to making adequate power to propel the car to 6.50s in the 1/8th The ET alone, for this Nova, is evidence of at least 600 hp...
madtownmadman 1 year ago
@xenoo4life ...and if you're gonna make 2.2hp/ci, from just 276", you can count on peak power coming in well passed 10K. And that means shifting even higher than that.
madtownmadman 1 year ago
@madtownmadman u are a flippin aretard! u dont shift after your power band, y shift after uve stoped making power and ur on the downward side? And yeah u can get those r's out of a smallblock, the copo camaro was a 11000 redline car from the manufacturer's showroom floor
NOS1088 1 year ago
@NOS1088 Alright dipshit, I'm gonna explain this as simply as I can. If you shift precisely at peak hp, the engine will be below the rpm at which peak horsepower is made, when the next highest gear is engaged. If you shift AFTER peak power is made, the engine will be right at peak power, once again, after that gear is engaged. How far beyond the peak you shift, is dependant upon the ratio of the next gear. For example, an LS7 makes peak power at 6200rpm, but are best shifted at 6900-7000
madtownmadman 1 year ago
@madtownmadman wrong again in drag racing u use a stall converter to keep u in the power after 6200 your power drops considerably, also your torque is droping well before 6200 and the best shift for your motor is dependent on two things A- your power band of the came B- the flash jpoint of your converter thus.... if your cam makes the most power (aka torque) around 4000 and hp at 6200 u should shift 6000 to 6500 the torque converter will bring u back up to were u need to be.
NOS1088 1 year ago
@NOS1088 in that case i would use a 3500 stall that flashes around 3000 so you will be right in the money were the motor is pulling hard because torque moves u not hp
NOS1088 1 year ago
@NOS1088 Torque converter gurus used to say: "1500 rpm less than what you go through at for stall speed".
So if your trap RPM is 7000 - you need a 5500 rpm converter.
A converter that is 5500 for a 3.48 stroke small block will be looser than one for say a 4.25 stroke big block.
kb9wzj 11 months ago
@madtownmadman Thats right you tell-em or better yet race-em
hjewell2 1 year ago
@NOS1088 Need I explain any more? A word of advise; be sure what you're saying is true, with considerable certainty, before you hit the post button. Proof reading your post, while checking for type-o's, is also helpful, aretard.
madtownmadman 1 year ago
@xenoo4life I used to leave the line at 10K in my 69 Camaro with a 302, and it was not quite as wound up sounding as this thing is.
piratebobstreasure 9 months ago
and ricers think only hondas can wind up to 9k lol
302Travis 1 year ago
what kind of valvetrain can handle those rpms?
inuchan187 1 year ago
Why not just run a destroked 400? Like a 2.900 stroke 4.125 bore?
Gain like 30 or 40 cubes but still able to rev like hell (maybe 11k instead of 12k)
Sounds insane tho at 12,000 rpm
One of the best sbc engine combos is a 377 (350 crank in 400 sbc) rev like hell and still have huge displacement.
flyjum 1 year ago
@flyjum These cars run #/cu in. with no breakout. If you add 30 cubes, in a 10.5# class, you'll have to add 315# to the chassis or go way down on index. Here's the rules. eddyvilleraceway and click on modified class racing
bowtieighth 1 year ago
God, I need this for a getaway vehicle.
2point0L 1 year ago
nice launch tho damn
sean55719 1 year ago
Damn, his stall speed was set really high! It sounded awesome!!
shawnkrause871 1 year ago
Maybe 9000 rpm. definitly not 12000 though
shawnkrause871 1 year ago
cool car, but I don't think that motor even hit 8 grand. didn't sound like it anyway.
MrBoolyman 1 year ago
12 grand my ass. Maybe cost $12,000 to build the motor, but no way in hell was that 12,000 rpm.
boatengr1 1 year ago
@boatengr1 More like maybe cost $12K to build the heads alone, which are the key to these high-winding mouse motors.
piratebobstreasure 9 months ago
deff was not 12,000 rpm
wesmcg68with350 1 year ago
wow fast. destroked?
suprakllr 1 year ago
That is one screamin SOB!!!!!!!!!!
superstang93 1 year ago
got damn she is moving
murdamonte 1 year ago
You're High
Riddco 1 year ago
I absolutely love that Nove. Awsome!!
vipermech 1 year ago 2
thats a beauty
willadio 1 year ago
Hell yeah
bigmrclean 1 year ago 2
holy hell!
12000 is crazy lol
SIRHC45 1 year ago 2
23000 RPM god that has to sound SICK!!! Make the import wenies crap their pants
usselliot76 1 year ago 2
I think he meant mean piston speed;
if the stroke of engine A is 4 times the stroke of engine B(the F! engine) then the mean piston speed of engine A will be 4 times higher than that of engine B at the same RPM which makes his statement correct. However, F1 engines really do rev up only to 20k(18k since limited), which makes you correct also:)
mkoprc 1 year ago
Not sure where you're getting your engine weights from but a big block chev with cast iron intake and exhaust weighs in dressed at about 650lbs, a small block with same weighs in at about 550 give or take a couple of pounds. not quite the 600 lb difference quoted here. Do your homework kids.
DBLCC 2 years ago
DUDE!!! That is one SCREAMIN' Nova.
racingformusic 2 years ago 3
WTF!!!
2.7 stroke?
Thats shorter than my 2.8 v6 2.99 stroke lol
And way faster...
psychotikpaisano 2 years ago
I wonder if he has a grenade pin rather than a trans brake button. lol, that thing sounds serious!!!
darokkz 2 years ago 2
i don't think a trans brake button will be used in this case. line lock and left leg was though.you are right about sounding serious,thats one cool sound.
ckout3 2 years ago
holy shit....
theflash555 2 years ago
Totally awesome.
theflash555 2 years ago
12000 rpm? Dont fink so!, 8000 maybe!
mainman2999 2 years ago
Definitely 12000 RPMs. I hear Pro Stock motors on the dyno everyday, so I can tell you that its zingin that high!!
unseenpunk1906 2 years ago 4
really? thats pretty amazing, did it say 276cid? is that like a short stroke 327 or something? ( im in the uk so im not up on u.s motors ) so it still has a single cam in the vee, pushrods and ohv or what? I cant see an ohv v8 with big valves etc running at 12000rpm, if it had ohc or dohc and an expensive bottom end then its possible i guess.
mainman2999 2 years ago
Im guessing a 276 is a de-stroked 283 or a really de-stroked 302/327. Is still a single cam pushrod motor. Pro Stock motors are 500 CID Big Blocks and turn 10,500 RPMs so its easier to turn more with a Small Block. That motor is a high dollar motor and no doubt has all the best stuff in it. The key is to lighten everything in the rotating assembly as much as possible and build it to some insane tolerances. So yes it is possible to turn that many R's in a small block with no problem.
unseenpunk1906 2 years ago 6
@unseenpunk1906 its a 4.03 bore and a 2.7200 stroke
dusternash 11 months ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
You obviously know NOTHING about de-stroker motors.
Move along. "ra-tard"
Dummerd 2 years ago
"DUMMER d" who the fuck asked you shithead? If you can read, you will see that I didnt say that i knew a lot about them, that was why i was fucking asking in the first place and i got a perfectly good reply from "unseenpunk1906" who has my total respect for that, you obviously get pleasure out of insulting people because it makes you feel "big" you sad little trailer trash. Oh, and surely you mean "re-tard" and not "ra-tard"? Thick as shit too obviously, so go play in the traffic tosser.
mainman2999 2 years ago
Thanks for the respect!! I tried to answer you the best I could, but im just a chassis builder. I asked the engine builders at MadCap Racing Engines next door to my shop and they said what I told you. And dont worry about Trolls like "Dummered" he may know, but has to be a dick about it just to be a dick, lol
unseenpunk1906 2 years ago
@mainman2999 Would not have even reached the powerband at 8000RPM on an engine that small, wake up.
Gavin84w 5 months ago