one of the reasons Mozart is so genius is that he could musically portray a vast range of emotions while still in the major key, where as most post-Classical music composers resort to minor keys way too much to communicate anger or despair (a cop-out). This piece is in a major key, yet it still sounds perfectly anguished/frustrated. A lot of people think of Don Giovanni as a dark, minor-key opera, but really there's only a few pieces that aren't major key
@thesir27 not to mention his musical sense of humor. he was mathematically perfect! my dream role one day is Leporello. I can't stop watching this. I just bought a recording of the opera directed by René Jacobs. it's brilliant. Cecilia always seems to up the notch every time though.
Brava Bartoli. Had she been singing in Mozart's 18th century Vienna, she would have been the prima donna assoluta del universo! Listen to the rage in her voice! A more volcanic rendition of Ah Chi Mi Dice Mai you're hard pressed to find. She has such command of the music & never breaks character. Her Elvira is the fiercest by far. Other Mozart roles include Cherubino & Susanna in Figaro, Despina in Cosi Fan Tutte. Her Mozart album includes Fiordiligi & the Figaro Countess.
mi piace veramente molto la Bartoli però devo dire che proprio in questi frangenti non è idonea...non so se mi capite....sta cantando come se fosse una di quelle arie di Verdi o per castrati che canta benissimo ma che hanno uno stile tutto diverso dove il suo registro vocale è perfetto ma qua lo trovo eccessivo....forse sono anche brutale ma è quasi una voce "ineducata"
@hardasarocker e magnifica come Despina, Fiordiligi, Donna Elvira, Susanna di Le Nozze di Figaro, Cherubino, e canta l'aria dove sono e porgi amor di la Contessa. Bartoli canta Mozart !
@hardasarocker tu pensa di essere in teatro e di essere travolto dalla sua energia e dalla perfezione tecnica e emotiva racchiusa nella sua voce. secondo me chi ha assistito a questa rappresentazione è uscito da li senza alcun dubbio sull'incisività della sua interpretazione. e poi nell'aria dopo, mi tradi quell'alma ingrata, è davvero unica.
@hardasarocker potrei elencarti tutto quello che lei fa e che nei trattati storici sconsigliano assolutamente di fare :( senza contare che la Bartoli si è spostata da una vocalità più lirica ad una vocalità completamente slegata dal fiato e molto "ariosa" per eseguire le spericolate agilità che fa, peraltro male.
Dai suoi ascolti, io riesco a capire come veramente bello potrebbe essere il brano; ma lei ormai non è più adatta. Ben altra voce aveva 20 anni fa, più sostenuta ed emessa bene! Peccato
Bartoli takes the crown! What a passionate, tempestuous, fiery version...this is just how Elvira ought to be sung - with a few other moments sung with more finesse, she is a volcano but she is also hurting and heart-broken because Don Giovanni doesnt return her love for him...Bartoli is magnificent here
Wow Cecilia makes a very fiery and intense/angry Elvira...this aria is absolutely great sung by her! I also like Maria Ewing who sounds more or less like this but without so many mannerisms and straight emotion anger....but Cecilia does have somethign of the very 19th century and Baroque type Elviras which is terrific
I looked and there is no video of the Maria Ewing version of A Ch Mi Dice Mai"...there are Maria's Salome and Carmen....if you want to listen to Maria Ewing singing Elvira you have to download the 1984 EMI recording with Thomas Allen as Don Giovanni and Carol Vaness as Donna Anna
I like either mezzo Elviras or dramatic soprano Elviras - ones with a great mid, but solid all the way to the top. During the ensembles, regular lyric sopranos would have to sit there singing mid-staff As and B-flats until they bleed, and that would suck. The mask trio also sounds better with either a mezzo or a soprano with a great mid. Personally, my favorite Elvira of all time is Joyce DiDonato.
Joyce is great but my all time favorite is MARIA EWING on the EMI recording with Thomas Allen....Maria knew just how to sound appropriately angry/intense/dramatic in not just the solo arias but the tricky ensembles...and yet she sounded beautiful in the Mask Trio...her "Me Tradita il alma ingrato" is a masterpiece...
I hate to disagree with you, but I'm actually doing my dissertation thesis on Women in Mozart operas, and I think I should let you know that Mi tradi was actually written not for a mezzo specifically, just as Dorabella in Cosi fan tutte was not a mezzo. Mozart wrote all his roles - male and female - for specific singers, with their own voices in mind. That's why he's such a genius!
Cecilia Bartoli est une grande chanteuse mais qui a tendance a limiter sa palette à deux couleurs : l'hystérie et la dépression... Elle en fait des tonnes. C'est assez à la mode, mais aussi fatigant à la longue....
J'aime beaucoup Cecilia Bartoli mais dans ce cas ci il me semble que cela ne convient pas, je la trouve beaucoup expressive et le surcroit d'expression ne va pas à Mozart.
I do not care she is a mezzo or what. She sounds exciting and FEELING the revenge. Therea are no technical problems at all, she is just gorgeous. People say Don Giovanni is boring. Not when sung with this energy and phrasing ! Brava Bartoli, our newest real diva, in the XIX century mould. Not soprano, not mezzo. Maybe falcon, maybe assoluta. A real wonder !
Why the hell is she sinnig Donna Elvira. Bartoli is a MEZZO SOPRANO!!! Not a SOPRANO!!! I Love her in Vivaldi, Händel or other baroque Operas. But Mozart is simly not her cup of tea. She needs trills and coloraturas... and not this. Sorry, I love Cecila Bartoli but this is just wrong.
Susan Graham and Joyce DiDonato are both singing Donna Elvira next month at different opera houses. I'm going to see the former, and I hope to see a video of the latter. I think rich, dark, mezzo Elviras work when done well, but Bartoli has way too much tension.
I dunno... I love her at Elvira. She really portrays the part perfectly to me with that tension. She wants revenge like no other Elvira I've seen. ;-)
i think that you're wrong...bartoli have a particular expression that can reach easy the soprano, and the music of elvira is often full of grave notes for the soprano register..is something beetwen a mezzo and a soprano...
The tessitura of the role is quite mid register (F4-F5), that's comfortable for a liric soprano. Donna Anna's role is the only real soprano based on tessitura.
Gosh, who would want to "consolar il suo tormento" or call her "poverina"?
Don Giovanni would never be so sweet to such a virago... Elvira needs to sound weak and desperate in that part, not furious and hysterical... Don't you agree?
I would have to disagree. Donna Elvira is a walking emotional disorder. You can tell A) by having her start a measure too late and B) she keeps on going about "Carvar in core" which shows that she was probably pissed. But she swings back and forth between wanting to kill Don Giovanni and wanting him back. I think Bartoli's portrayal in this aspect was dead on.
Hehehe, I love your definition of Elvira as a walking emotional disorder, I find it spot on. However, just because you're emotionally messed up doesn't mean you have to be a vulgar bawling out shrew. Remember Ottavio and Anna: "che aspetto nobile, che dolce maesta".
Such a hysterical matroness, Giovanni did right to leave her! Completely vulgar interpretation. In Mozart especially her voices sounds not dark, but ugly. Not for her at all. Sorry.
she isnt a soprano. she is a mezzo soprano, and elvira is written for a soprano. However, they often use mezzos for this role so as to add a different type of soprano clour, otherwise with an opera with 3 soprano roles it can all get a little bit 'samey'
sry,I say this in english because i hade only 1 1/2 years italian on school. ehm... found a singer who can so good show emotins like cecilia bartoli. she can realy very good sing!!!!!!
Che dire ancora? Su di te è già stato detto tutto e di più. Sei un miracolo, una dea, la più grande di tutte. Di sempre! L'Italia non ti merita, e io, da italiano, me ne vergogno un po'. Ma ti vorrei in giro per l'Italia, a cantare e a far capire ai Veltroni e ai Berlusconi che la tua vita (e grazie a te anche la nostra) è più bella della loro, che il nostro Paese ha bisogno di questa musica, che la vita senza musica, come diceva Nietsche,"è un errore!". Che la loro vita è un errore!!!
Listening to her is like watching a swordsman wielding a claymore like a rapier. It is utterly amazing to hear an alto singing like a spinto. And if this is overacting then give me more and more and more and more and more.
BARTOLI IS AMAZING!!! This is one of the best potrayals of Elvira that I have ever seen... I love it how she plays her SO insane. It really lends credibility to Don Giovanni's later statement of how she's crazy!
And to resolve all this stuff about whether or not she's good enough... If you like it, good for you! Post how much you love this amazing woman. If you don't like it, that's okay too! Just skip to the next clip and have a nice day!
As for Bartoli... sui generis... Her recitativi in this production are a delight and the demented touch in the arias brings back the comedy that this opera, after all, is supposed to be!
Whatever she does she in convinced of it. And with the time I am convinced too...
And especially in this scene, the more vibratto the better (because she needs to seem really unbalanced for Don Giovanni's decision to woo her seem suicidal).
Thank you for posting this! I'm preparing to see Don Giovanni in Washington DC next week and I like to see/hear performances before seeing them for the first time.
Not knowing the Contessa's role very well, I'd say it's likely she has all of the notes required to sing the role. However, it's not always about whether or not she's got the range, but whether it sits well in her range; if it's got a consistently high tessitura, it might not be healthy for her to sing it. However, she has a truly singluar instrument, and so she's capable of a LOT more than your "average" opera singer (average being a relative term).
THAT's what I call real anger! I never saw someone acting sooo convincing in an opera. you looks like she can just eat him alive! I saw many versions of Don Giovanni and this is my absolute favourite! Not only because all the singers are so convincing as singers AND as actors, but also because they all fit their role! As a viewer you believe what you see and you feel what they feel. THAT is what opera is really about and it's great to see it work!
I need an explanation from the experts, seriously, i love opera but i'm not a musician.
Why does she sings Donna Elvira if that is a role for soprano and Cecilia is a mezzo? she sings in another key or her voice adapts to that kind of role?
Although she considers herself a mezzo, her voice falls in the upper end of the mezzo range so she can usually sing soprano roles with ease. She's not singing in another key - just adapting to the role! :)
negative comments here are just ridiculous. Extremely out of place. Why dont' you losers get a hold of yourselves and stop thinking you know better than Harnoncourt or Zurichopernhaus as a whole what to do and how to do it? Nobody buys a Bulgari watch and starts critisizing this watch and look for faults in it unless he's a retard.And if you are annoyed you will never come close to Bartolli's mastery, let me clue you in, you have the right tobe cause you'll never will come close to it.
dolicimani is correct...she should not sing a part like Donna Elvira (or the contezza btw), if she is not just doing it as an one time-occasion for fun.
She sounds mad because she have to fight to keep it together.
and...janick1ultramarine...nobody here will reach bartoli's talent so that's not what we should talk about...just give some constructive criticism to what we are watching, weither or not it is Cecilia Bartoli singing.
constructive criticism?? That's exactly my point because ppl here are not critiquing but they are just barking some obscene offences at other ppl who know their business and do it perfectly. I've seen Cecilia performing in the US and EU and i know that none of the stuff ppl say here is relevant.
And, yes i will not reach Cecilia level for i am an investment banker, but there are professional singers here and they do have a chance.
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This is unbelievable... you can tell she finds the size of the piece too difficulit.. you can hear this when on a couple of occasions she takes breaths in the middle of words... donna elvira is supposed to soar above the orchestra not compete with it.
One of the best opera scenes I know. Bartoli do not sound beautiful, maybe that`s why this works so well! This is like theater, real feelings and acting. I just could`nt care less if this is too big role for her or wrong fack
The best Donna Elvira ever!She is just as she ought to be,in my opinion..I love Cecilia because she really means what she sings and you can hear it in her voice,I mean you don't even need to see her face to understand the feelings of her character,you can hear them!You can FEEL them!
Lots of negative reviews here. I happen to find Bartoli's interpretation one of the best. She knows how to breathe life into this aria. Donna Elvira is supposed to be PISSED OFF! She want's to rip the Don's heart out, for God's sake! If you find her singing "too expressive" then you're a fool. IMHO, past singers have been FAAAAAAR too MANNERED in their interpretations of Donna Elvira. She is supposed to be vengeful and conflicted woman!
The Bartoli approach does work a lot better with Mi tradì in this particular production. Harnoncourt's tempi never cease to baffle me, and I have to admit I usually skip over his breakneck Fin ch'han dal vino on the DVD. The exceptionally slow rendition of Mi tradì in this production works really well, though, and has me bawling my little eyes out every single time.
How can anyone be too expressive? That's the problem with some people. Opera should be the perfect union of singing and acting. We should never concentrate only on the first one, though it is undoubtedly the most important.
This is one of the best Ah chi mi dice mais I've ever see. Maybe not vocally, but overall, one of the best. If you want vocal perfection, I would recommend the Schwarzkopf version.
Well, if you are so set on acting and singing going together, then I would say this performance was complete crap. This attempt at an aria shows that Bartoli obviously can't do either one of them. Get her off the stage to save my ears AND eyes from a complete disastor.
Can ´t anyone just accept that she has a different approach , besides she is giving life to the lyrics , not just a mere statue as most singers deliver the message !
can we not blame some of Bartoli's movements and acting on the director of this opera, he must have liked what she was doing or he would have corrected it.
Hi Dolicimani: And that's the mistake that everyone, including Bartoli herself makes. She is NO mezzo, don't listen to what the press says. She is a lyric soprano that overphonates the bottoms and has no tops. Still a very impressive and musical lady, but I won't pay to see her until she sings the right rep for her voice--soprano.
wwonka2.--- can you sing?---so where is your video---i do not think you have one---so shut your ass up---sit tight and enjoy----stupid bitch--always critical of someone else.---i probably won't pay to see you either until you get a video on youtube.
To WilltheBest: Hmmmmmm.Interesting comment.True,we should all try to be uncritical and unjudgmental. But astute assessments meant for the edification of others are allowable.Remember that I think extremely highly of a lot of Bartoli's work, and that's why I care enoguh to make comments (also remember I am a voice trainer and voice pathologist of 25+ years). BTW, why do I need a video of me singing on youtube in order to teach? Also BTW, keep your money. I get paid plenty doing what I do.
Bartoli is uh...different in this role...maybe a little too "expressive" for Mozart, huh? I appreciate the intention behind it but I think it interrupts the singing too much for this style.
Come fa Cecilia Bartoli ad essere considerata una delle più grandi cantanti del momento?? Ha brutta voce e tecnica aprossimativa, le vengono inoltre qui concessi da Harnoncourt impeti e grida che si addicono più a Mascagni che a Mozart...
I personally do not think Donna Elvira does a very good job at all! It sounds like she is shouting all the time. And what's with all the jerky movements? She puts accents in all the wrong places. I understand she is angry, but there is a much more musical way to sing angrily. The worst part is the descending arpeggios at the end. Seriously, that is the most out of tune shrieking I have ever heard!
Yeah, MahlerTitan! I like the vengeful piss-and- vinegar interpretation too! But that's cause it's so vicious it's campy--kinda like Bette Davis in "Baby Jane." But listen to that sloppy vocalism--coughin' and barkin' and shriekin'--Too much!
How I really feel...I love her. I'm in awe of her extreme dramatic connection to the text/music, broad range of timbres and improbable velocities. HOWEVER,facts are facts. She is NOT a mezzo, she is a light lyric; it's not really a beautiful native timbre; she sometimes gets sloppy, and often clucks. But I applaud her and experience her frequently.
THIS is the best Don Giovanni of all times!!! Production of Zurich 2001 if I remember right. Harnoncourt is a genius and Ive never seen better actors and singers before. Everyone is convincing. Just wonderful, perfect.
wow...:o
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The best I've heard of this aria. I vote to name a group of stars after Cecilia Bartoli - the Bartoli Constellation. Certified Intergalactic!
Dogaradodia 2 months ago
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Dogaradodia 2 months ago
The best I've heard of this aria. I vote to name group of stars after Cecilia Bartoli - the Bartoli Constellation. Certified Intergalactic!
Dogaradodia 2 months ago
dislike, what's all that "air" supposed to mean? too much uncontrolled fury. I respect her but don't like her stylistic choices at all.
qwosters 3 months ago
one of the reasons Mozart is so genius is that he could musically portray a vast range of emotions while still in the major key, where as most post-Classical music composers resort to minor keys way too much to communicate anger or despair (a cop-out). This piece is in a major key, yet it still sounds perfectly anguished/frustrated. A lot of people think of Don Giovanni as a dark, minor-key opera, but really there's only a few pieces that aren't major key
thesir27 9 months ago
@thesir27 not to mention his musical sense of humor. he was mathematically perfect! my dream role one day is Leporello. I can't stop watching this. I just bought a recording of the opera directed by René Jacobs. it's brilliant. Cecilia always seems to up the notch every time though.
umroo2014 9 months ago
Consiglio piuttosto la Donna Elvira di Kiri Te Kanawa...a volte mi chiedo se certi ruoli mozartiani non siano stati scritti su misura per lei
FloriaTosca90 11 months ago
Mi accodo anch'io: troppo calcata questa parte, divertente ed energica ma a discapito della sua vocalità
FloriaTosca90 11 months ago
Brava Bartoli. Had she been singing in Mozart's 18th century Vienna, she would have been the prima donna assoluta del universo! Listen to the rage in her voice! A more volcanic rendition of Ah Chi Mi Dice Mai you're hard pressed to find. She has such command of the music & never breaks character. Her Elvira is the fiercest by far. Other Mozart roles include Cherubino & Susanna in Figaro, Despina in Cosi Fan Tutte. Her Mozart album includes Fiordiligi & the Figaro Countess.
OperaMystery80 1 year ago
She could take on Chuck Norris.
CantoSemper49 1 year ago 5
Cecilia is the best Donna Elvira.
cincorn 1 year ago
tengo el DVD y para mí Bartoli es la mejor del elenco, y por mucho
wolfgangtheophilus 1 year ago
mi piace veramente molto la Bartoli però devo dire che proprio in questi frangenti non è idonea...non so se mi capite....sta cantando come se fosse una di quelle arie di Verdi o per castrati che canta benissimo ma che hanno uno stile tutto diverso dove il suo registro vocale è perfetto ma qua lo trovo eccessivo....forse sono anche brutale ma è quasi una voce "ineducata"
hardasarocker 1 year ago 2
@hardasarocker Non e vero ella e bellisima e magnifica per l'opera di Mozart
AmericanEvita 1 year ago
@AmericanEvita vabbè sono punti di vista....l'ho vista meglio nelle vesti di Despina in Così Fan Tutte
hardasarocker 1 year ago
@hardasarocker e magnifica come Despina, Fiordiligi, Donna Elvira, Susanna di Le Nozze di Figaro, Cherubino, e canta l'aria dove sono e porgi amor di la Contessa. Bartoli canta Mozart !
AmericanEvita 1 year ago
@hardasarocker tu pensa di essere in teatro e di essere travolto dalla sua energia e dalla perfezione tecnica e emotiva racchiusa nella sua voce. secondo me chi ha assistito a questa rappresentazione è uscito da li senza alcun dubbio sull'incisività della sua interpretazione. e poi nell'aria dopo, mi tradi quell'alma ingrata, è davvero unica.
thegaddoontheroof 1 year ago
@hardasarocker il commento più intelligente di tutti quelli letti credo :) complimenti!
Per me la Bartoli come canta oggi è inadatta per tutto perché non sa emettere la voce!
MisterPapageno 1 year ago
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Grazie però solo una cosa...penso che per cantare lo stile Castrato sia formidabile....veramente brava...senti questa : watch?v=rISjBGOtHhs :)
hardasarocker 1 year ago
@hardasarocker potrei elencarti tutto quello che lei fa e che nei trattati storici sconsigliano assolutamente di fare :( senza contare che la Bartoli si è spostata da una vocalità più lirica ad una vocalità completamente slegata dal fiato e molto "ariosa" per eseguire le spericolate agilità che fa, peraltro male.
Dai suoi ascolti, io riesco a capire come veramente bello potrebbe essere il brano; ma lei ormai non è più adatta. Ben altra voce aveva 20 anni fa, più sostenuta ed emessa bene! Peccato
MisterPapageno 1 year ago
Certified Intergalactic! The best "Ah, chi mi dice mai"!
Dogaradodia 1 year ago
lol... I would not wanna meet her in a dark alley somewhere...
WhatWhatTiffanie 1 year ago
Oh how I love Bartoli!
cincorn 1 year ago 2
GO GIRL! She looks like she'd eat Don G for breakfast- RUN, RODNEY- RUN!!!!
jibbyjane 1 year ago 6
0:46 damn. I want to take learn how to take a leather trench coat off like that.
TheTrendSetter89 1 year ago 2
On ne s'en lasse pas. Ni de Mozart, ni de la Bartoli.
boniface23 2 years ago
this woman could resurrect the dead. Pity Harnoncourt...
stellaformusik 2 years ago 5
she should-thats the role play!
willthebest1 2 years ago
Bartoli takes the crown! What a passionate, tempestuous, fiery version...this is just how Elvira ought to be sung - with a few other moments sung with more finesse, she is a volcano but she is also hurting and heart-broken because Don Giovanni doesnt return her love for him...Bartoli is magnificent here
MastersoftheOpera 2 years ago 33
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her ha ha has at the end are horrible.
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Terrible overacting, shrill top notes (the role is just too high for her). Why do people like her?
Habrolissimo 2 years ago
And the winner is...
Cecilia Bartoli... Best Actress
Intergalactic Awards
Dogaradodia 2 years ago 7
Que polenta Cecilia!!! Magnífica, eso si que parece una mujer despechada, peligrosa...
rolokun 2 years ago
I would not mess with her
nestersg 2 years ago 29
@nestersg Certified Intergalactic!
Dogaradodia 11 months ago
Mwahahah, Bartoli is the fiercest Elvira ever! Brava! =DD
LienPT 2 years ago 6
gli vo'.
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skyriver83 2 years ago 3
Wow Cecilia makes a very fiery and intense/angry Elvira...this aria is absolutely great sung by her! I also like Maria Ewing who sounds more or less like this but without so many mannerisms and straight emotion anger....but Cecilia does have somethign of the very 19th century and Baroque type Elviras which is terrific
AmericanEvita 2 years ago
Is there a video on yt of the Ewing's version?
Kind regards
SirFrancisBurton 2 years ago
I looked and there is no video of the Maria Ewing version of A Ch Mi Dice Mai"...there are Maria's Salome and Carmen....if you want to listen to Maria Ewing singing Elvira you have to download the 1984 EMI recording with Thomas Allen as Don Giovanni and Carol Vaness as Donna Anna
AmericanEvita 2 years ago 2
Though being not academic at all, her performance this very day was out of sight! Astonishing!
SirFrancisBurton 2 years ago
작곡가피아졸라가
비엔나음대졸업하실때발표하신작품입니다
KIMAEREE 2 years ago
Comme Mozart lui va bien...
isabelle070209 2 years ago 2
Too much vibrato... Her Vivaldi is good though.
DieSonneSinkt 2 years ago 2
Let's divide world of Mozart opera on Bartoli and whole the rest ;)
warsawer42 2 years ago
so hard not to be sharp in this one...
i don't know, she's great and everything but really...
BGSourgas 2 years ago 2
I like either mezzo Elviras or dramatic soprano Elviras - ones with a great mid, but solid all the way to the top. During the ensembles, regular lyric sopranos would have to sit there singing mid-staff As and B-flats until they bleed, and that would suck. The mask trio also sounds better with either a mezzo or a soprano with a great mid. Personally, my favorite Elvira of all time is Joyce DiDonato.
KatherineXIX 2 years ago
Joyce is great but my all time favorite is MARIA EWING on the EMI recording with Thomas Allen....Maria knew just how to sound appropriately angry/intense/dramatic in not just the solo arias but the tricky ensembles...and yet she sounded beautiful in the Mask Trio...her "Me Tradita il alma ingrato" is a masterpiece...
AmericanEvita 2 years ago
Oh, damn, I have to check that out! I loved her Cherubino in the Figaro film and to this day think she was the most convincing as a teenage boy.
KatherineXIX 2 years ago
I hate to disagree with you, but I'm actually doing my dissertation thesis on Women in Mozart operas, and I think I should let you know that Mi tradi was actually written not for a mezzo specifically, just as Dorabella in Cosi fan tutte was not a mezzo. Mozart wrote all his roles - male and female - for specific singers, with their own voices in mind. That's why he's such a genius!
MatronAilz101 2 years ago
Great to see such an animated Elvira. I am not a great Mozart fan but I am totally hooked on this performance - Superlative!
Misstroble90 3 years ago
grande interprete mozartiana la bartoli.... fantastica.....
vincik80 3 years ago 2
Cecilia Bartoli est une grande chanteuse mais qui a tendance a limiter sa palette à deux couleurs : l'hystérie et la dépression... Elle en fait des tonnes. C'est assez à la mode, mais aussi fatigant à la longue....
ranxibouche 3 years ago
Hélàs ce n'est pas tout à fait faux...Elle en fait trop, c'est vrai.
Mais vocalement, c'est éblouissant !
boniface23 2 years ago
Certified Intergalactic!
Dogaradodia 3 years ago
J'aime beaucoup Cecilia Bartoli mais dans ce cas ci il me semble que cela ne convient pas, je la trouve beaucoup expressive et le surcroit d'expression ne va pas à Mozart.
jacquesurlus 3 years ago
Long ago, it did not matter. That is not the way singers once worked. Do some homework yourself.
TedMichaelMorgan 3 years ago
A later faster tempo but it also works.
TedMichaelMorgan 3 years ago
This is my favourite Leporello... Terfel is very good, but László Polgár is perfect.
54spiritedwill54 3 years ago
He is, isn't he.
TedMichaelMorgan 3 years ago
I agree 100%.
Rentschlervous 3 years ago
Cecilia is DIVINE!!!!
lalia2001 3 years ago 2
Of course!
TedMichaelMorgan 3 years ago
I do not care she is a mezzo or what. She sounds exciting and FEELING the revenge. Therea are no technical problems at all, she is just gorgeous. People say Don Giovanni is boring. Not when sung with this energy and phrasing ! Brava Bartoli, our newest real diva, in the XIX century mould. Not soprano, not mezzo. Maybe falcon, maybe assoluta. A real wonder !
Greatfan 3 years ago 2
è un mito vivente !!!
54spiritedwill54 3 years ago
Bravissimo! This video is simply the best "Ah, chi mi dice mai" on YT in cinematic, orchestral and vocal effects.
Dogaradodia 3 years ago
she's cute when she's angry, isn't she?
blathui 3 years ago
LOL!
operagirl81 3 years ago
I don't know about that,but I hear what I hear and it is simply fascinating !
podknocker2 3 years ago
Why the hell is she sinnig Donna Elvira. Bartoli is a MEZZO SOPRANO!!! Not a SOPRANO!!! I Love her in Vivaldi, Händel or other baroque Operas. But Mozart is simly not her cup of tea. She needs trills and coloraturas... and not this. Sorry, I love Cecila Bartoli but this is just wrong.
FarinelliNBG 3 years ago
Susan Graham and Joyce DiDonato are both singing Donna Elvira next month at different opera houses. I'm going to see the former, and I hope to see a video of the latter. I think rich, dark, mezzo Elviras work when done well, but Bartoli has way too much tension.
KatherineXIX 3 years ago 2
I dunno... I love her at Elvira. She really portrays the part perfectly to me with that tension. She wants revenge like no other Elvira I've seen. ;-)
operagirl81 3 years ago
i think that you're wrong...bartoli have a particular expression that can reach easy the soprano, and the music of elvira is often full of grave notes for the soprano register..is something beetwen a mezzo and a soprano...
Novalis87 3 years ago
The tessitura of the role is quite mid register (F4-F5), that's comfortable for a liric soprano. Donna Anna's role is the only real soprano based on tessitura.
agnellodei 3 years ago
lol she hates him
:)
beautiful
Aneurismo 3 years ago 2
OMG she is so scary :):):) of course, she's great and I like her, but not in that performance:P
madziua90 3 years ago 2
I don´t like it. Anyway she sings very good.
Phonologie 3 years ago 2
Brava Cecilia!!!!
maggeo78 3 years ago
Not her role, I'm afraid. But Cecilia is great in anothe Opera arias.
noncondition 3 years ago
Can you post the final scene of act2, please?
And the final-sextetto? :-)
aeru9 3 years ago
Gosh, who would want to "consolar il suo tormento" or call her "poverina"?
Don Giovanni would never be so sweet to such a virago... Elvira needs to sound weak and desperate in that part, not furious and hysterical... Don't you agree?
nizzaz 3 years ago
I would have to disagree. Donna Elvira is a walking emotional disorder. You can tell A) by having her start a measure too late and B) she keeps on going about "Carvar in core" which shows that she was probably pissed. But she swings back and forth between wanting to kill Don Giovanni and wanting him back. I think Bartoli's portrayal in this aspect was dead on.
MADMAD2002 3 years ago 5
Hehehe, I love your definition of Elvira as a walking emotional disorder, I find it spot on. However, just because you're emotionally messed up doesn't mean you have to be a vulgar bawling out shrew. Remember Ottavio and Anna: "che aspetto nobile, che dolce maesta".
ohheheinbon 3 years ago
Such a hysterical matroness, Giovanni did right to leave her! Completely vulgar interpretation. In Mozart especially her voices sounds not dark, but ugly. Not for her at all. Sorry.
wotansings 3 years ago
It`s not realy a soprano role, but she make it better than many sopranos, BRAVA!
aeru9 3 years ago
she isnt a soprano. she is a mezzo soprano, and elvira is written for a soprano. However, they often use mezzos for this role so as to add a different type of soprano clour, otherwise with an opera with 3 soprano roles it can all get a little bit 'samey'
thomaswalker1979 3 years ago 3
Yes, I mean she sang this rola as mezzo better than many sopranos.
sry my english is really male, i`m from swiss.
aeru9 3 years ago
Flimm fa schifo! La musica è perfetta (Harnoncourt, Bartoli)!!!!!!!!!!!
petatap 3 years ago
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Cecilia non sai cantare
ninoderraj 4 years ago
Yes she does.
Fiordilgi 3 years ago
sry,I say this in english because i hade only 1 1/2 years italian on school. ehm... found a singer who can so good show emotins like cecilia bartoli. she can realy very good sing!!!!!!
aeru9 3 years ago
è un mito vivente !!!
occhiobuio 4 years ago
è un mito vivente !!!
occhiobuio 4 years ago
who wrote this music?
pertrujo07 4 years ago
Some guy called Mozart.
Cenayon 3 years ago
Wolferl?
petatap 3 years ago
Che dire ancora? Su di te è già stato detto tutto e di più. Sei un miracolo, una dea, la più grande di tutte. Di sempre! L'Italia non ti merita, e io, da italiano, me ne vergogno un po'. Ma ti vorrei in giro per l'Italia, a cantare e a far capire ai Veltroni e ai Berlusconi che la tua vita (e grazie a te anche la nostra) è più bella della loro, che il nostro Paese ha bisogno di questa musica, che la vita senza musica, come diceva Nietsche,"è un errore!". Che la loro vita è un errore!!!
pippo69 4 years ago
who wrote this music?
pertrujo07 4 years ago
Mozart
xiaofha 4 years ago
Tout aussi convaincante dans le drame que dans la comédie, une grande et très belle artiste. Brava bella Cecillia.
jacquesurlus 4 years ago
much as i like bartoli, i can't help thinking that this is comedy...and not in the way that mozart intended. but her singing is great.
operalover9001 4 years ago
Sorry for being disruptive, but what is it great in this Elvira's performance ?!
To my modest opinion I never heard a worse one.
And saving words about the acting... ridiculus. Buu Buu
And it get worse going ahead, better close the comment.
dgraydgray 4 years ago
What is good acting for you? Examples please.
guiradobrasil 3 years ago
Listening to her is like watching a swordsman wielding a claymore like a rapier. It is utterly amazing to hear an alto singing like a spinto. And if this is overacting then give me more and more and more and more and more.
anchoritsybarite 4 years ago
grandissima
hallohooo 4 years ago 3
bravissima bartoli.... Her voice is amazing... a phenomenom....Bravissima a millon times....
memolandia689 4 years ago 4
BARTOLI IS AMAZING!!! This is one of the best potrayals of Elvira that I have ever seen... I love it how she plays her SO insane. It really lends credibility to Don Giovanni's later statement of how she's crazy!
And to resolve all this stuff about whether or not she's good enough... If you like it, good for you! Post how much you love this amazing woman. If you don't like it, that's okay too! Just skip to the next clip and have a nice day!
stefdigs 4 years ago 6
As for Bartoli... sui generis... Her recitativi in this production are a delight and the demented touch in the arias brings back the comedy that this opera, after all, is supposed to be!
Whatever she does she in convinced of it. And with the time I am convinced too...
CONTESTAR 4 years ago 2
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he voice is shaking horribly
olbel 4 years ago
this "shaking" is called "vibratto", and this role needs the vibratto for these aria. Isn't "horribly" it's amazing.
manutortosa 4 years ago 2
And especially in this scene, the more vibratto the better (because she needs to seem really unbalanced for Don Giovanni's decision to woo her seem suicidal).
Tithemi 4 years ago 2
Thank you for posting this! I'm preparing to see Don Giovanni in Washington DC next week and I like to see/hear performances before seeing them for the first time.
anddawede 4 years ago
es real, sencillamente real, no actua...es genial, la mejor cantando este papel.
michoviolin 4 years ago 2
Wow, she is PISSED! I'd hate to meet her in a dark alley.
Hal5423 4 years ago
If she can sing "Donna Elvira", she also can sing "Contessa" in "Le Nozze"?
NicoCeballos 4 years ago
Not knowing the Contessa's role very well, I'd say it's likely she has all of the notes required to sing the role. However, it's not always about whether or not she's got the range, but whether it sits well in her range; if it's got a consistently high tessitura, it might not be healthy for her to sing it. However, she has a truly singluar instrument, and so she's capable of a LOT more than your "average" opera singer (average being a relative term).
gentlemarti 4 years ago
She did record 'Dove Sono' on her Mozart Portraits CD and she fared very well with that.
hillevifan 4 years ago
THAT's what I call real anger! I never saw someone acting sooo convincing in an opera. you looks like she can just eat him alive! I saw many versions of Don Giovanni and this is my absolute favourite! Not only because all the singers are so convincing as singers AND as actors, but also because they all fit their role! As a viewer you believe what you see and you feel what they feel. THAT is what opera is really about and it's great to see it work!
ettoleetoile 4 years ago
Mezzo are still able to sing the higher notes although their most quality sound is in the upper middle range
woopsiedaisey 4 years ago
I need an explanation from the experts, seriously, i love opera but i'm not a musician.
Why does she sings Donna Elvira if that is a role for soprano and Cecilia is a mezzo? she sings in another key or her voice adapts to that kind of role?
NicoCeballos 4 years ago
Although she considers herself a mezzo, her voice falls in the upper end of the mezzo range so she can usually sing soprano roles with ease. She's not singing in another key - just adapting to the role! :)
ijdoti 4 years ago
negative comments here are just ridiculous. Extremely out of place. Why dont' you losers get a hold of yourselves and stop thinking you know better than Harnoncourt or Zurichopernhaus as a whole what to do and how to do it? Nobody buys a Bulgari watch and starts critisizing this watch and look for faults in it unless he's a retard.And if you are annoyed you will never come close to Bartolli's mastery, let me clue you in, you have the right tobe cause you'll never will come close to it.
janick1ultramarine 4 years ago 5
dolicimani is correct...she should not sing a part like Donna Elvira (or the contezza btw), if she is not just doing it as an one time-occasion for fun.
She sounds mad because she have to fight to keep it together.
and...janick1ultramarine...nobody here will reach bartoli's talent so that's not what we should talk about...just give some constructive criticism to what we are watching, weither or not it is Cecilia Bartoli singing.
evaeke 4 years ago
constructive criticism?? That's exactly my point because ppl here are not critiquing but they are just barking some obscene offences at other ppl who know their business and do it perfectly. I've seen Cecilia performing in the US and EU and i know that none of the stuff ppl say here is relevant.
And, yes i will not reach Cecilia level for i am an investment banker, but there are professional singers here and they do have a chance.
janick1ultramarine 4 years ago
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This is unbelievable... you can tell she finds the size of the piece too difficulit.. you can hear this when on a couple of occasions she takes breaths in the middle of words... donna elvira is supposed to soar above the orchestra not compete with it.
dolicimani 4 years ago
She looks crazy in this video, like she is going to punch someone haha...
DavinciMoo 4 years ago
I am singing this in a week and I hope I can sing it half as good as her
hillevifan 4 years ago 4
could you please post her in quali eccesci..Mi Tradi...thanks
hillevifan 4 years ago
One of the best opera scenes I know. Bartoli do not sound beautiful, maybe that`s why this works so well! This is like theater, real feelings and acting. I just could`nt care less if this is too big role for her or wrong fack
liirilameri 4 years ago
i love this aria...you can tell that she was born to play Elvira..could you please post Mi tradi..thanks
hillevifan 4 years ago
The best Donna Elvira ever!She is just as she ought to be,in my opinion..I love Cecilia because she really means what she sings and you can hear it in her voice,I mean you don't even need to see her face to understand the feelings of her character,you can hear them!You can FEEL them!
LaCarusiella 4 years ago
Okay, but listen to Schwarzkopf in this role, please!
VivaRenata 4 years ago
Lots of negative reviews here. I happen to find Bartoli's interpretation one of the best. She knows how to breathe life into this aria. Donna Elvira is supposed to be PISSED OFF! She want's to rip the Don's heart out, for God's sake! If you find her singing "too expressive" then you're a fool. IMHO, past singers have been FAAAAAAR too MANNERED in their interpretations of Donna Elvira. She is supposed to be vengeful and conflicted woman!
norcalrobbie2 4 years ago 3
The Bartoli approach does work a lot better with Mi tradì in this particular production. Harnoncourt's tempi never cease to baffle me, and I have to admit I usually skip over his breakneck Fin ch'han dal vino on the DVD. The exceptionally slow rendition of Mi tradì in this production works really well, though, and has me bawling my little eyes out every single time.
StandingRoom 4 years ago
i think the role is far too big for her. And she is the wrong fach for it.
dolcimani 4 years ago
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I agree completely. She is indeed in a vocal category that is not her own, and at best, she sounds like a pale imitation of Schwarzkopf in this role.
VivaRenata 4 years ago
I was a bit shoked the first time but now I really like it. Its very expressive but what? Better this than frozen interpretation
twizzle99 4 years ago
"A little too expressive for Mozart"???
How can anyone be too expressive? That's the problem with some people. Opera should be the perfect union of singing and acting. We should never concentrate only on the first one, though it is undoubtedly the most important.
This is one of the best Ah chi mi dice mais I've ever see. Maybe not vocally, but overall, one of the best. If you want vocal perfection, I would recommend the Schwarzkopf version.
Cenayon 4 years ago
Well, if you are so set on acting and singing going together, then I would say this performance was complete crap. This attempt at an aria shows that Bartoli obviously can't do either one of them. Get her off the stage to save my ears AND eyes from a complete disastor.
LeNozze44 4 years ago
she shows the true essence of a totally peeved gal.
wonkers50 5 years ago
Can ´t anyone just accept that she has a different approach , besides she is giving life to the lyrics , not just a mere statue as most singers deliver the message !
bachianasbrasileiras 5 years ago
I totally agree
GpD79 4 years ago
can we not blame some of Bartoli's movements and acting on the director of this opera, he must have liked what she was doing or he would have corrected it.
lizzyvolpe 5 years ago
This is my favourite Leporello... Terfel is very good, but László Polgár is perfect.
SleepOfReason 5 years ago
she is def not a donna elvira she is a mezzo soprano for god's sake
dolicimani 5 years ago
Hi Dolicimani: And that's the mistake that everyone, including Bartoli herself makes. She is NO mezzo, don't listen to what the press says. She is a lyric soprano that overphonates the bottoms and has no tops. Still a very impressive and musical lady, but I won't pay to see her until she sings the right rep for her voice--soprano.
wwonka2 5 years ago
wwonka2.--- can you sing?---so where is your video---i do not think you have one---so shut your ass up---sit tight and enjoy----stupid bitch--always critical of someone else.---i probably won't pay to see you either until you get a video on youtube.
willthebest1 4 years ago
To WilltheBest: Hmmmmmm.Interesting comment.True,we should all try to be uncritical and unjudgmental. But astute assessments meant for the edification of others are allowable.Remember that I think extremely highly of a lot of Bartoli's work, and that's why I care enoguh to make comments (also remember I am a voice trainer and voice pathologist of 25+ years). BTW, why do I need a video of me singing on youtube in order to teach? Also BTW, keep your money. I get paid plenty doing what I do.
wwonka2 4 years ago
Bartoli is uh...different in this role...maybe a little too "expressive" for Mozart, huh? I appreciate the intention behind it but I think it interrupts the singing too much for this style.
FacePaster 5 years ago
Go see Charlotte Margiono in this role.
She IS Donna Elvira.
Bartoli does a verry good job.
andreasscholl 5 years ago
Charlotte Margiono is really perfect Elvira, I heard her to sing this part under J. E. Gardiner`s conducting, but I have no video.
Trisolde 5 years ago
I like Bartoli, but she does not have the best voice to do Donna Elvira. I prefer the Dramaticos like Carol Vaness
baishufei 5 years ago
Come fa Cecilia Bartoli ad essere considerata una delle più grandi cantanti del momento?? Ha brutta voce e tecnica aprossimativa, le vengono inoltre qui concessi da Harnoncourt impeti e grida che si addicono più a Mascagni che a Mozart...
Orbazzano 5 years ago
exactly...two phenomena I don't understand: la Bartoli e la Fleming.
xgianpatrick 5 years ago
Sono di accordo con te
wwonka2 5 years ago
I personally do not think Donna Elvira does a very good job at all! It sounds like she is shouting all the time. And what's with all the jerky movements? She puts accents in all the wrong places. I understand she is angry, but there is a much more musical way to sing angrily. The worst part is the descending arpeggios at the end. Seriously, that is the most out of tune shrieking I have ever heard!
LeNozze44 5 years ago
that's your interpretation, personally i like Bartoli's interpretation much better.
MahlerTitan 5 years ago
Yeah, MahlerTitan! I like the vengeful piss-and- vinegar interpretation too! But that's cause it's so vicious it's campy--kinda like Bette Davis in "Baby Jane." But listen to that sloppy vocalism--coughin' and barkin' and shriekin'--Too much!
wwonka2 5 years ago
Tell us how you really feel wwonka2. Seriously now....
CMOSjockey 4 years ago
How I really feel...I love her. I'm in awe of her extreme dramatic connection to the text/music, broad range of timbres and improbable velocities. HOWEVER,facts are facts. She is NOT a mezzo, she is a light lyric; it's not really a beautiful native timbre; she sometimes gets sloppy, and often clucks. But I applaud her and experience her frequently.
wwonka2 4 years ago
THIS is the best Don Giovanni of all times!!! Production of Zurich 2001 if I remember right. Harnoncourt is a genius and Ive never seen better actors and singers before. Everyone is convincing. Just wonderful, perfect.
shipulenko 5 years ago