Jor-El didn't hide the stones at the farm. I think he hid the book of Rao, which Zod and Faora both made references to in "Disciple." The orb can control Clark since it was irradiated with blue kryptonite, which means that any Kryptonian can be affected and lose their powers. Jor-El sent it to earth before Krypton was destroyed with Kal-El. Also the son Zod mentions is not Faora's son. His first wife died when Kandor is destroyed along with his son. Davis is a clone from the hair Zod has.
The Stones weren't the worst, The Kandor that Lara came from after having seen Kal as a baby, was destroyed before Kal was born.
And Lois left town because she was kissed? Ridiculous.
I agree that this is the least re-watchable of the episodes. Still, despite all that, a bad episode of Smallville beats a good episode of almost anythiung else.
I've watched it twice, and will probably watch it again before next episode.
see i don't mind watching the parts of the episode with jor-el in it again and again but the rest of it, it's like of like "Well, what's really worth watching over?" Julian Sands and the flashbacks felt like the highlight and the so called twist of the Kandorians being clones really didn't feel like much of a surprise at all
And another thing... if the stones of powerwere on earth in the days of margaret isabel theroux and duchess gertrude how did they get back to krypton and why were they brought back if they were only going to be sent right back and who hid the stones in their places????
a lot of people have been talking about that since the episode apparently. frankly, i think it's a little bit of discontinuity. since in season 4 the first stone was found in an ancient egyptian artifact, which means they've been on Earth for thousands of years
Since Zod doesnt have powers does that mean green kryptonite cant harm him? if so it would explain why clark wouldnt be able tokill him straight off.ollie better watch that ring of 'his' =P
well when clark had his powers taken away by blue kryptonite, he was able to hold green kryptonite against his uncle. but just because green kryptonite doesn't effect zod doesn't mean that clark can't kill him. he could burn him alive with his heat vision or crush his neck like a twig if he wanted to
Also, Faora wasn't the wife that Zod mentioned in this episode. It was made pretty clear when Kandor exploded that both Zod's wife and son were in Kandor and died there. That makes Faora his second wife, and it means that she was unable to bear Zod's child, hence the creation of Doomsday. Two different wives, two different sons. I can understand why you thought otherwise, though.
see the reason I thought that it was faora who zod was talking about was because he said "bring back my son" not "bring back my son AND my wife". to me, it's kind of like "Why would you not want both of them back?"
I thought that too, but consider what we know of Zod from Season 6. Having an heir is REALLY important to him because he wants to continue his bloodline. That's a trait that we can assume was there before he was General Zod. Evil doesn't suddenly breed the desire to carry on your legacy. So, he can always get another woman, but he wants his son back to continue the bloodline of Zod. Makes sense to me.
They actually did reference how the orb is able to "control" Clark. Well, not actually control, because as we found out in "Odyssey" Jor-El's idea of control is taking away Clark's powers. The reason the Kandorians have no powers is because Jor-El used the blue kryptonite (that blue crystal he used while he was working) on the orb. That basically meant that he took the power away from all of the DNA in the orb. That also explains how the orb is able to take away Clark's powers, albeit vaguely.
true, the blue kryptonite part does make sense as to why clark doesn't have powers after lex used the orb. but what i don't get is, why does the orb physically hurt him when every other time we've seen clark use blue kryptonite he's been totally fine near it? powerless, but not physically hurt.
Did we actually see it hurt him though? If you take a look at that scene, all it does is glow and Clark steps backwards. He didn't have a look of pain like he would if it was, say, green kryptonite. I think he just backed away because he was afraid of what it would do, not because it actually caused him physical pain.
Absolutely fantastic! I couldn't agree more! WHAT THE HELL? Couldn't they have given us just a LITTLE more time between Clark & Jor-El? Christ! What a waste of an opportunity! And I didn't catch it, but did they touch on at all the after-kiss moment between Clark & Lois? I swear this show sometimes has no sense of continuity! UGH!
Actually they do bring up the Clark and Lois kiss very briefly. Apparently he scared her off for this episode (convenient huh?) and Lois needs time to think over what's happened. But yeah, the biggest disappointment was the ONE scene Jor-El had with Clark. When you think about it, all Clark would have to do is fly him through the son and not only would Jor-El be healed but he'd get superpowers. But of course, Clark isn't flying yet
Jor-El didn't hide the stones at the farm. I think he hid the book of Rao, which Zod and Faora both made references to in "Disciple." The orb can control Clark since it was irradiated with blue kryptonite, which means that any Kryptonian can be affected and lose their powers. Jor-El sent it to earth before Krypton was destroyed with Kal-El. Also the son Zod mentions is not Faora's son. His first wife died when Kandor is destroyed along with his son. Davis is a clone from the hair Zod has.
Colombianyoyo 1 year ago
See to me this is the best episode besides idol. also the orb controls clark because its fused with blue k.(which takes away his powers).
IMnotGarbage 2 years ago
Great Commentary.
The Stones weren't the worst, The Kandor that Lara came from after having seen Kal as a baby, was destroyed before Kal was born.
And Lois left town because she was kissed? Ridiculous.
I agree that this is the least re-watchable of the episodes. Still, despite all that, a bad episode of Smallville beats a good episode of almost anythiung else.
I've watched it twice, and will probably watch it again before next episode.
neoaeonian 2 years ago
see i don't mind watching the parts of the episode with jor-el in it again and again but the rest of it, it's like of like "Well, what's really worth watching over?" Julian Sands and the flashbacks felt like the highlight and the so called twist of the Kandorians being clones really didn't feel like much of a surprise at all
TheIglooofSolitude 2 years ago
Re: what's worth watching over
Clark and Olliver in the desert,
The hint of a "My igeneous plan that no-one suspects is coming together perfectly" smile on Tess's face at 3 points, after
- Zod thinks JorEl is the blur
- Zod has just removed JorEl from her basement
- Clark nearly choked her to death, worth a re-viewing in it's own right
And Zod is smiles because finding Clark makes his goal of powers a step closer.
Clones are lame, but time travel would have been worse.
neoaeonian 2 years ago
And another thing... if the stones of powerwere on earth in the days of margaret isabel theroux and duchess gertrude how did they get back to krypton and why were they brought back if they were only going to be sent right back and who hid the stones in their places????
mistahkennedy2101 2 years ago
a lot of people have been talking about that since the episode apparently. frankly, i think it's a little bit of discontinuity. since in season 4 the first stone was found in an ancient egyptian artifact, which means they've been on Earth for thousands of years
TheIglooofSolitude 2 years ago
Since Zod doesnt have powers does that mean green kryptonite cant harm him? if so it would explain why clark wouldnt be able tokill him straight off.ollie better watch that ring of 'his' =P
mistahkennedy2101 2 years ago
well when clark had his powers taken away by blue kryptonite, he was able to hold green kryptonite against his uncle. but just because green kryptonite doesn't effect zod doesn't mean that clark can't kill him. he could burn him alive with his heat vision or crush his neck like a twig if he wanted to
TheIglooofSolitude 2 years ago
Also, Faora wasn't the wife that Zod mentioned in this episode. It was made pretty clear when Kandor exploded that both Zod's wife and son were in Kandor and died there. That makes Faora his second wife, and it means that she was unable to bear Zod's child, hence the creation of Doomsday. Two different wives, two different sons. I can understand why you thought otherwise, though.
BrandonRhea 2 years ago
see the reason I thought that it was faora who zod was talking about was because he said "bring back my son" not "bring back my son AND my wife". to me, it's kind of like "Why would you not want both of them back?"
TheIglooofSolitude 2 years ago
I thought that too, but consider what we know of Zod from Season 6. Having an heir is REALLY important to him because he wants to continue his bloodline. That's a trait that we can assume was there before he was General Zod. Evil doesn't suddenly breed the desire to carry on your legacy. So, he can always get another woman, but he wants his son back to continue the bloodline of Zod. Makes sense to me.
BrandonRhea 2 years ago
They actually did reference how the orb is able to "control" Clark. Well, not actually control, because as we found out in "Odyssey" Jor-El's idea of control is taking away Clark's powers. The reason the Kandorians have no powers is because Jor-El used the blue kryptonite (that blue crystal he used while he was working) on the orb. That basically meant that he took the power away from all of the DNA in the orb. That also explains how the orb is able to take away Clark's powers, albeit vaguely.
BrandonRhea 2 years ago
true, the blue kryptonite part does make sense as to why clark doesn't have powers after lex used the orb. but what i don't get is, why does the orb physically hurt him when every other time we've seen clark use blue kryptonite he's been totally fine near it? powerless, but not physically hurt.
TheIglooofSolitude 2 years ago
Did we actually see it hurt him though? If you take a look at that scene, all it does is glow and Clark steps backwards. He didn't have a look of pain like he would if it was, say, green kryptonite. I think he just backed away because he was afraid of what it would do, not because it actually caused him physical pain.
BrandonRhea 2 years ago
not a bad episode however it retconed season 8 7 and evrey other damn season basicly.
KaraLVRogueLZ 2 years ago
true, very true
TheIglooofSolitude 2 years ago
Absolutely fantastic! I couldn't agree more! WHAT THE HELL? Couldn't they have given us just a LITTLE more time between Clark & Jor-El? Christ! What a waste of an opportunity! And I didn't catch it, but did they touch on at all the after-kiss moment between Clark & Lois? I swear this show sometimes has no sense of continuity! UGH!
icrodriguez7 2 years ago
Actually they do bring up the Clark and Lois kiss very briefly. Apparently he scared her off for this episode (convenient huh?) and Lois needs time to think over what's happened. But yeah, the biggest disappointment was the ONE scene Jor-El had with Clark. When you think about it, all Clark would have to do is fly him through the son and not only would Jor-El be healed but he'd get superpowers. But of course, Clark isn't flying yet
TheIglooofSolitude 2 years ago