Get Fishing Pond Before Water Temple without Hookshot

[rubenmorales19]

Umm... Scarecrow Song?

[Ceb773]

I can do the any% speed run UP TO this point. And this is where I give up.

How do you z-target while looking at link's front? I can do it in certain situations so that I'm z-targeting and looking at link at like a 45 degree angle... but not this...

[Ghandil]

@MetalBowser3 Ok where to start.. There are a lot of glitches and tricks go get the arrows. or well the mirror shield. Most of them involve the hover boots. Just look youtube up for "hover boots early" ;)

[vpl3000]

oh come on thats link ninjustsu up the ass!!!

[njijnji]

I don't suppose you could bring a guay to that corner and use it to hover all the way up? Failing that, going on TwilightSDA's suggestion, can't adult Link grab an edge off a side jump if you press b at the right time, like kid Link can? Anyway, this is definitely the awesome way to "Get Fishing Pond" :)

[ieatatsonic]

Would this be useful to skip the Dampe race for a RBA run?

[99prayer2god]

hum hum plant bean as a child and there u go -.- wat a bunch of noob lol

[MrGrunz]

maybe the point is to do it without bean <_<

what a bunch of nub there -.-

[zoraluigi]

@99prayer2god Right? I thought most people new that...

[MrGrunz]

no, you don't need longshot

hookshot can easily reach the scarecrow

[flamingpheonix5000]

why does he have the mirror sheild and silver gauntlets?

[himez123]

why? because he got them! you can get them before water temple

[walkthrumasterx]

or you could plant magic beans by the scientist's house as a kid and when you become an adult the beans will have grown and it will fly you over to the pond

[himez123]

the point of this video is to show another way not the boring way

[Lacrimosa12]

You need to play song for scarecrow as kid.

When you are adult play the song you played to make a scarecrow appear at the fishing pond.

Then hookshot to it.

[SNIPERJOAKIM]

you help me so much ty

[Glitches0and0stuff]

Im gonna do that now.

[Glitches0and0stuff]

Aww.. I'M GONNA have to get some bombchus from spirit temple or the guy on carpet that sells them.

[MrGrunz]

link doesn't grab ledges while sidehopping and backflipping in OoT ;)

[MrGrunz]

no, he doesn't O_O

[d1a2l3l4e]

where did you get the shield?

[MrGrunz]

Spirit Temple

I got it as child link with a serious of glitches ;)

[oligi3008]

And without Magic Bean!

[MrGrunz]

yeah, but that needs thousands of bombchus

[MajoraMIM]

Hover with the tektites but more far of the wall to get high enough, then megaflip with them!!!! :D

(Haven't we got bombs from becoming adult in any%?)

[MrGrunz]

it had been tested a lot and it isn't possible. maybe 10 pixels more high and we would be up there. AKA (Mijitsu) showed a picture on a SDA, on how close he got with TAS, but it is not possible

[MrGrunz]

You can't use the Bombs.

You won't have them in your inventory and you won't have a bag, but they're shwon on C-down, because you're normally supposed to have them, when you get adult link

[Runnerguy2489]

This is sooooo close!

Is it possible to do it against the wall on the side (left side) and then once they barely reach, Z-target and turn and megaflip or something? The slope goes up so if you went up the slope a little and did it, and were able to turn the 90 degrees to get in the right direction, maybe it could work.

[MrGrunz]

AKA TASed this trick a lot. He tryed Mega Flip from distance and he's so close, but it's not possible.

The ledge is also grabable, but when you turn around, you won't be very close to the wall anymore, so Link doesn't grab it :(

[Navnroid]

Why is stealing the fishing rod helpful for an Any% run?

[MrGrunz]

Stealing the rod leads to Reverse Bottle Advanture: The Ultimate OoT Glitch

with reverse bottle adventure you can get the medaillons without visiting any temple!

it's a way to hack your inventory without codes, cheats etc.

[pokeypummel17]

you might be able to do a sideways roll then a crooked backflip( dont know what its caled) i do it on escpethe forest all the time and it letss you get higher than usuall.

[MrGrunz]

but remember the tektikes

they can't get that high

[pokeypummel17]

i mean when the tektiles cant hit you anymore, then you can try it to see if you can jump on tthe platform.

how do you make the angle like that?

[MrGrunz]

hmm, that's unlikely, but I will test sidehovers

maybe they will do it ;)

[Runnerguy2489]

I think he meant just a sideways backflip after they don't reach. As if you were going to try Acryte's no hoverboots chu hover, but don't hover, just see if it makes it.

[MrGrunz]

I understood, that he meant this, but I'm not really close to the wall. as you can see, I still needed 2 hovers.

If a Sideways Mega Flip really gives you more high, then AKA could have used a Sideways Mega Flip and he would have been up there, but I some doubt, that it gives you more high

[Zeupar]

No Guay Hover this time? :P

[MrGrunz]

they don't come over to this place :(

If they do, I am be able to skip the hookshot completely ;)

[groobotube]

Oh but you CAN lure one of those to this spot. Problem is that they return to their original position after hitting only once.

[MrGrunz]

and they will probably not wait until you hovered up there

the ledge is grabable, btw, but when you change your camera angle you will get a little bit away from the ledge so link won't grab it. It is only not possible to grab a ledge with a sidehop right?