NJTransit Atlantic City ACES train

[dwkcamman611]

Cool!!!

[1flyfire8]

Yes you are right. The train can be controlled from either end. When the electric is on the head end on this part of the trip, the diesel provides the power from the rear, but the engineer operates the train from the electric's cab.

[RickyC94]

I'm from Italy and I have never traveled on these trains, and I have a question: the train use the diesel traction between Atlantic City and Philadelphia, and the electric traction between Philadelphia and New York... So, they can use the diesel locomotive in remote control from the eletric locomotive and vice-versa? It's correct?

[retroguy1976]

how is the alp 44 running without the overhead wires

[1flyfire8]

@retroguy1976 The alp is being used as a cab car at this point as the P40 is providing the power at the rear. Read the description of the video again as I thought I explained it OK, and also read the rest of the comments from everybody else. It's very unusual to see...

[1flyfire8]

ACES has the electric so it can go directly into NYPenn without a stop to change power. Only electrics can run into Penn Station.

[Great0ne1]

dude it's spelled Diesel not disael

[Dandy1254]

Because the Atantic City railline does not have electric power for the ALP 44 eng.

It runs the ALP 44 from NY to a location in Philly and switches engine.

The elect is less costly to run.

[Mushroom3727]

ok so njt has the alp44 with batteries because once my uncle took me too his yard where he gets his train and he showed me the batteries on the njt alp44

[Mushroom3727]

the battery's are charged the have batterys to work on non electrified tracks

[Great0ne1]

The ACES doesn't run on batteries.

It has two locomotives that power the train on non electrified trackage and electrified trackage.

P40DC/P40BH=Non Electrified Trackage

ALP-44=Electrified Trackage.

In this video the ALP-44 was acting as the cab car but the P40 was powering the train you can hear its motor running at 0:30

[Mushroom3727]

what does the BH stand for and hoe does the p40 get electricity

[Great0ne1]

@Mushroom3727 idk what BH stands for in P40BH. The P40 doesn't use electricity it's a diesel locomotive. I told you that already. I already explained to you how NJT runs the ACES train.

[Great0ne1]

@P40BH Why are you telling me this?

[trainfans2]

Weird seeing the ALP44 working on non-electrified trackage! but it's a cool train

[TrainzMaster3000]

interesting to see this...alp44 on acl

[trainamtrakcsx]

duz aces hav 2 different paintschemes?

[1flyfire8]

No. This was during testing and training before regular services started, so it's just standard NJT equipment.

[trainamtrakcsx]

oo ok

[RDG484]

I read somewhere that NJT just put bids out for dual modes that would be used into the new tubes that will soon be under construction under the Hudson River and out on the non-electrified lines.

[Dkouts57]

pretty fukin slow

[1flyfire8]

The train is slowing for the curve into, and the speed restriction in Haddonfield. On the NEC and on most of the AC Line it does track speeds. (100+ on NEC, 79mph on ACLine.)

[1flyfire8]

Also, take a look at the Absecon ACEs video I posted, along with ones on the NEC from others that give a better indication of speed.

[Railrooster]

I feel like I just went to school...

[caj111]

Good video, but I wanna see inside the train!

[RDG484]

WOW!! An ALP with no overhead!! That looks so out-of-place. But whatever works......

[dhoytw]

This train actually runs right out my back door, just noticed the new one running the other day.

[1flyfire8]

Correct, not the true ACES set, but this was a NYP-AC test run with similar equipment. ACES equipment is now running and there is a set that went AC to NYP today, Sunday, Jan 25. It returns later this afternoon. I will have video up within a few days.

[adkbeau]

Hey this isnt an ACES train because the ACES train has

Atlantic City Express Services on the side this is a NJ Bilevel or double decker....

ACES will go from penn station to Atlantic City....

[trainboy614]

Its so funny how the P40s sound like U34CHs

[ns3010]

Pretty sweet. But it definatly looks better with the actual ACES cars. Can't wait to see one of these consists in action.

[TallNBlack]

That is one interesting consist. I will definitely be checking this out when service begins.

I didn't know electric locos could be used as cab cars.

[TrainiacProductions]

Wow, great catch! Do you know where I can see one of these trains? Either on the NEC or on this line? It seems like it would be a great train to catch before the actual runs, which also seem interesting!

Thanks,

Jim

[TrainManTy]

Wow, that looks rather strange without wires overhead... Neat video!

[NJT4111]

AHHH!!! NJT Electrics and multi-levels....NOOOO bad combo for me, and the P40 is ok, I hate the multis and the electrics, but it does make 4 a cool consist

Needless to say, i won't be taking a trip to ACL soon

[RCdash9]

They wouldn't allow Diesels to enter Penn Station under their own power, would they? Its also strange how an ALP44 or any electric engine could act like a cabcar.

[1flyfire8]

You are right; diesels cannot operate into NYP. As far as an electric being a cab car, they operate as push-pull with a conventional cab car on the other end, on the Phila-Harrisburg run, so it's not so unusual as you might think. What is odd is seeing them running without wires overhead.....

[sportsmovieman]

I'm still confused... how is that ALP-44 able to run without any electric power? Is an engineer operating that train? Or is he operating the P40 and the ALP is just kinda being a cabbage car?

[akatrain]

the P40DC is in push mode and the ALP-44 is a in Cab car mode with the engine in neutral

[Sniper12890]

@1flyfire8 That'a because the North River tunnels, Park Ave Tunnels, and the East River tunnels have poor ventilation and they don't want to pollute New York. Therefore, diesel locomotives are banned in New York

City.

[Great0ne1]

cool man. My background has a picture of that consist

[sarginto3]

I thought it was an ALP-46

[1flyfire8]

ALP46's are numbered as 4600-series. This was numbered 4427.  It may well be that 46's are assigned to this service when it actually starts.

[EwwMadonna]

Nice =)

[acelaboy123]

wo sweet catch dude. i never new they would put an alp on the front. great video 58s and my fav!!

[AmtrakFanNEC927]

Wow, that alp44 is pretty much acting like a cabcar. Thats pretty sweet. I didnt know they could do that. 5*'s & Fav!

[1flyfire8]

This is what the ACES trains will be. Electric on one end, diesel on the other. Electric power is for running on the NEC. Whether train is to/from Atlantic City, trains will stop in the area of Frankford Jct. in Phila so the engineer can walk to the other end of the train, as that locomotive will be the controlling cab. This train is heading to AC. The diesel led the train out of NYPenn. The train has to reverse direction as there's only one way to get to the AC line from NEC.

[jscotlenrd]

This could still be achieved without the electric loco ALP44, if the diesel is a dual mode as I thought these were, like Amtrak uses on a lot of its long distance runs from NYP. The dual mode diesels draw power from third rails through the Hudson River tunnels then kick in with diesel for the rest of the trip. As far as changing ends in Philadelphia Frankfort Junction, they operate push pull with bi-level cab car. This dual mode method will be used for NJT's future 1-seat rides on diesel lines.

[CSXkid22]

that's interesting, ive never seen an electric engine run like that

[56yuoi]

are those the new ACES trains?