Li Family Tibetan Snake Boxing

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are they have semilar technique like BJJ ground grappling position like mounting position, side control etc.?

[WDTripps]

This is not even close to the snake style I learned which was traced back to china.

[thegompa]

@WDTripps Dear Sir, I am not sure if you read the explanation of the style origin found below the clip. This is a "family style" created by the Li family. This would be why it was not "Close to the snake style" you learned. There are many styles called Snake styles or Snake Boxing. China is a huge country with many things perhaps not dreamed of in your philosophy.

[dragob732]

you have to learn forms to practise this style,it seems good practical

[thegompa]

@dragob732 There are no long or formalized forms in this art just as in most of the Li family methods. The system is based on practical principles that can be used to create a never ending supply of techniques and methods suited to the moment. Thanks John Painter

[thegompa]

And a rose by any other name would still smell as sweet.

[solid902]

All martial arts are related in the sense that it is all body mechanics you all are just putting techniques in a box and giving them a name.

[thegompa]

Dear Sir,

As I understand it Dog Boxing uses ground fighting tactics as does Li family Snake Boxing. I do not think they are related except in that they both use ground tactics.

Thank You

John Painter

[Tazz77]

Awesome.

[thegompa]

Dear Sir,

The name Li is very common in China like Smith in the USA. I doubt that there is any connection as Li. Long-dao and his father Li, Zhang-lai were the only two males from this particular family from Sichuan to come to the USA after the war. The system you studied was most likely from another clan with the sur-name Li.

Thanks for asking

[twotetah]

I've studied Li Ka(family)kung fu in the late 80's and early 90"s,wonder if there is a connection?...our Sijo was Li Yau San

[Emangroove]

This is some of the best kung fu ground fighting I've seen in nine years of study. thanks for posting this.

[MDIS]

Excellent techniques

Excellent demostrations.

I would love to learn this .

[MaBu888]

It seems a modern Russian military fighting system follows some of the same techniques, from what I've seen on youtube, almost everything was the same. They did sparring with shinpads: one on the ground and two or more attacking...

[thegompa]

Thanks for your comment. Yes some of the Russian stuff looks similar to this. Remember we were teaching this art in 1989. This was before some of the current ground fighters were even born. No matter what is important is to learn to use ground techniques and those that show you how to deal with multiple opponents. This art does that quite well.

[MaBu888]

I agree hands down, especiallt important is multiple opponents thing.

[fightermanizdebest]

cool I like it.Ive been practicing martial arts for 34 years and this is the first time Ive seen this.well done really nice

[SavTJ]

Lovely demos, but when your in a real life street fight with a bloke who is half drunk, or on drugs (as most fights occur in or around night clubs) and is intent on killing you, would you be able to pull any of that off ?

[thegompa]

Dear SavTJ, Each altercation is different. The goal of snake boxing is to disable as in break arms or legs or take down the attacker quickly when you have been thrown or fallen. The next step is to get back up to run or fight. Yes it has worked many times in real combat as tested by law enforcement officers and bodyguards we have trained. Thanks

[fightermanizdebest]

actually I think he could

[huglaes]

In the Philippines I saw a chinese master perform the leg trapping techniques and call it as yellow monkey style, having similarities of your techniques on the ground.

Thanks for posting. Very nice.

Dakila Hsuan

[YuJinLong]

Very interesting set.

Seems to be primarily derived from Shuai Jiao, but w/ the ground aspects of Di Tan Quan combined w/ Shaolin Snake type Gung fu...plus some very 'slippery/deceptive' elements derived from Drunken Boxing.

Lao Shrr Painter's analysis of the 'strategic aspects' of naming this 'Tibetan Snake Boxing' is a very interesting analysis as well.

The Li Family/E Mei arts are certainly innovative & interesting, (practical as well).

[Daledugas67]

Shifu Painter,

Wonderful clips from years past as well as recent seminars and demonstrations!

Excellent work! Great material for someone who is on the ground!

Be well, train hard

Dale Dugas

[TaoBoxer]

ShiFu,

When was the video at the begining of this clip taken?? It's very "Enter the Dragon!!" :-D

Lewitt

[thegompa]

The opening sequence was shot at one of our Chinese New Year parties. I think the date is 1979 or 1983. Not sure. We did some elaborate stage productions with Lion and Dragon Dancing in those days.

Thanks

John Painter

[vince84231]

Thanx for posting it Master Painter. I practice O-Mei snake style and I was waiting for this clip. Beautiful.

Is there some forms (tao lu) or only postures ?

Thanx

[powerfulpalm]

very nice. I want the dvd asap!