Its not a choice, if someone turns gay or lesbian, they weren't 100% straight, they already had homosexual tendencies...if you're 100% gay or lesbian and are attracted to ONLY the same sex and you DONT find the opposite sex attractive, its IMPOSSIBLE to turn straight unless you weren't gay or lesbian in the first place...when people say its a choice, they're livin a lie as a straight person.
@lilfenty3292 they were forced to be straight cause people tellin them "gay is wrong" so they're forced to be with the opposite sex...what ANNOYS me about homophobes is how they try to change the LGBT Community, if they're NOT attracted to the opposite sex, homophobes CANT force them to be attracted to the opposite sex, they just have to accept the fact its who they are...if you're gay, lesbian, bisexual, transsexual, BE HAPPY and EMBRACE IT.
@lilfenty3292 one of the most annoyin things I HATE hearin come out of a homophobe's "love the sinner hate the sin", thats sayin they still HATE the LGBT Community, they dont want them to be themselves...if I can love the woman I love, I see nothin wrong with two women or two men who love each other, people base homosexual relationship all on sex, which its NOT, its about LOVE, if a relationship is based on sex only, what kinda relationship is that?
@lilfenty3292 God bless the dead, but when my girlfriend (R.I.P) was alive, our relationship was based on love, emotionally, spiritually, not just sex, even though we've made love, we were virgins til we met each other, I was 13 and she was 14 at the time, but we were VERY mature for our ages at the time, Im 19 now and still mature for my age, a-d-d just kicked in, took me places I didnt need to go lol...but anyway, Im 100% straight and pro-gay.
Because BISEXUALS are the ONLY ones that can CHOOSE between the 2 sexes!
Im pretty sure SOME of the HETEROS wouldnt like to hear the truth about their REAL sexuality and the only way to battle that is by becoming Homophobes.
REAL STRAIGHT PEOPLE are OK with gays cause their SECURE with their sexuality and dont feel threatened by gay people.
I don't claim to own the truth, but I beg to disagree with you on the molestation part.
I believe that a victim of sexual abuse is more likely to have their sexual behavior impacted, not their sexual orientation. And what I mean by that is that a child who's been molested may have problems in a romantic relationship, for instance, not being able to commit to or trust the person they're with, maybe become a violent person or things like that, but the natural sexual orientation can not be driven.
Homosexuality is NOT a choice in no shape, form, or fashion!! A person does not turn to homosexuality because of molestation but because of a uncontrolable attraction he or she has for the same sex. If that theory was true, there would be a LOT more gay people in this world.
i have not been damaged and the truth is sexual behavior can be genetic it cant be a choice because im gay and i have been trying to grow out of it since i was 13 and now im 20 and im still gay.
I dont think its a choice either but we do choose to lay with people unless it is forced upon us. I have a question for you are you gay and if so did you choose to be that way or have you always felt that way of being gay.
Gay is a choice. People choose to love all sorts of things in this life, some love animals, some love objects, some love children, some love furries, so dont tell me it is not a choice. And if some people are damaged as you say by life experiences and become gay then how do you know the rest of them arent "damaged" as well by their life experiences.
@papertreegun go shit yourself im gay and i didnt choose to be this way and i have not been "damaged" i dont even want to be gay because of the fact that everyone hates gay people for some reason and sometimes i even cry about it so dont tell me being gay is a choice.
what this young man says beginning from frame 0:40 about young boys having experience with older men is the truth for ALL gays.
They all had some homo experience at younger age and decided they liked it and wanted to keep doing it. They have not grown up.
Only those in denial of this create the illusion that they were born gay. Nobody is born with sex on their mind. They learn sex from another or something they see in secular soceity.
@SistersOfTruth Bullshit . And im a gay man, who also dated women.. And guess what, I liked it. And being gay is so much more then thinking about sex. Let me guess, its the old religious rant of sexual identity is determined by your actions? And getting involved into sex is just a result from personal development.
And btw... personal development isn't any different in a religious society. Gay people will get sex, even in a strong religious society that bans "gay".
@SistersOfTruth Acceptance? Nah, not really. I'm not looking for that. There are plenty of things and life styles I wouldn't choose, like using drugs, and I wouldn't be promiscuous. But I wouldn't go around telling lies about those people. That is the difference between you and me I guess. Even a lie in the name of God is still a lie, dear sister of Truth. So I dont care if you accept me or not, I just want you to act like a more civilized person. You have a religion, not Tourette syndrome.
Also, I think just because a boy grows up without a father, doesn't give him an excuse to be gay. That's bullshit! I was raised by my mom, & have two sisters. I'm just fucking fine! If you're gay, you just naturally like the opposite sex, but you definitely were not born that way! Babies don't know shit! Follow me on Twitter @jjtwit55555. #TeamFollowBack
You can't be born gay! No such thing. You don't even know enough when you're a baby to even be gay or straight. & you can't choose a natural feeling. If you're attracted to the same sex, it's because you just like the same sex. You can't just say (out of the blue one day) "Oh, I think I wanna be gay now.". No! You can't just choose. & I was molested, but I'm straight. So... There's no excuse!
You show me proof that babies have a sexuality when born. Show me two babies having sex with the same sex and then I will believe that born gay thought. I embellished in the lifestyle for 8 years but have since been delivered from those actions. So I can say that my actions were definitely a choice. What ever your attractions are means nothing until you consummate it with actions. Remember Gay means Homosexual and Homosexual means the ACT of having sex with the same sex. God bless you. Luv 1
Give up on the whole God thing and become Agnostic, and also lose the notion of being "proud" of being homosexual. Sexual orientation has nothing to do with pride or shame, any more than liking Chinese food does. Your concept of self-worth is based on your accomplishments as an individual, not on who you like to sleep with or what ethnic, national, religous, or racial group you were born into.
ROM:1 26,27 "For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another." I believe their are people that are by nature gay. Naturally perverted because of the state of fallen man. Its not our duty to defend our fallen nature but to seek to be set free from it. The scripture clearly states it is wrong. God bless.
To begin with, love the vid & your view points. I have been reading the posts here for 2 hours now & I want to point out (I know an arguement will probably start) that the origins of Christianity were founded in Ancient Egypt. The Ten Commandments are infact from The Egyptian Book of The Dead. Moses would have been aware of this because he was raised in the Egyptian Royal Family. The belief in one God also stems from Ancient Egypt. It was practiced briefly 100 years before the birth of Moses.
dont be affraid to live a rightous life style before god because god has already wrote down the rules for us to live by you are not responseble for the wrong someone di to you but be responsible for the choices you make for yor self the word says choose ye this day whom you will serve ,
I feel that homosexuality is a choice. I believe that some people are born attracted to the same sex, But its when they act on their sexual feelings is what turns them gay. If u look up the word homo in the dictionary, it means same sex. In the bible God said that loving someone who is of the same sex as you love your wife/husband is ok. 1Samuel & 2Samuel, talks about the relationship of David & Jonathan, and how David's love for Jonathan surpassed the love of a women. So w/that being said
God is the author of everything. No one is loved less. Free will is bogus. There are no "choices" of our own. God was the "cause" of "Satan" was the "cause" of Eve, Adam, and the fall of man. It was God's Fall of Man. we will all be family. God throws no one under the bus.
Nothin wrong with sex, if both people want it. Most straight people do "disgusting" things. If you're a man and having sex with another man is not your sort of thing, then just don't do it! But it is for a lot of people! And they're not any more disgusting than a straight couple where a man will stick his penis into the moist insides of a woman's body.
i dont think anyone should have to reform if they are gay, then again that is based off spiritual and religious beliefs, but without that in the equation we should embrace who we are despite how we arrived to that destination, if that is what you are comfortable being physically mentally and spiritually. but its up to the individual to live their life according to those 3 aspects, and no one elses. but in short people lack respect for that which is not their own
I totally agree with u 1000%. Well stated and u have great things to back up your argument. I would like for you to check out my video and subscribe and tell me what u think about the video about Double standards.
I think no one has any right to put a personal belief on a segment of society simply because they disagree with the sexual orientation of another human being. If you think being gay is wrong and your not attracted to the same sex then mind your bizness and keep it moving. I don't care what folks do sexually if I'm not that persons sex partner. It's none of my bizness. God made everyone so who stands in judgement is a better question. You feel what's inside and that is not a choice it's your nat
If being gay was a choice: "I'm going to have sex with men, even though I am naturally attracted to women".. ermm... nutter!
If being gay is just how it is: "I'm going to have sex with men because I am attracted to men." ..hmm, makes sense.
Now, you can choose to believe that it IS a choice if you want (even though the example above suggests it's a rediculous idea), or you can be smart and settle for the 'they're just gay, get over it!' idea.
marriage isnt just for christians but when yhu get married its a gift from god no one cares about what christians have to say at the end of the day its whats god says .
Yes, in this case it’s a choice for prisoners to have sexual relations. But it is a choice that is mutually beneficial. Not that they "fall in love", but they do it to mutually consent and not kill one another. Prison's are violent so one can expect that submitting to Satan "saves" their life or lives. In this case, the choice to "be homosexual" is a MORAL one, and can OBSERVED to be moral by others in this case if the alternative is violent death.
your name is appropriate, you are making fables out of the verses. You have very basic, humanistic views. You need an encounter with Jesus Christ. Do not settle for worldly info, seek the true wisdom which comes from God. Just because something makes sense does not make it true. wake up and seek God, He will use you to spread true wisdom.
your name is appropriate, you are making fables out of the verses. You have very basic, humanistic views. You need an encounter with Jesus Christ. Do not settle for worldly info, seek the true wisdom which comes from God. Just because something makes sense does not make it true.
Homosexuality is a ingrained choice. Kids make choices all the time, they can choose which toy to play with, so why cant they choose what they like at a early age? When a kid is born, it does not have a sexual preference, they learn to love who they want to love. Now some people, I also think sexual abuse and the lack of parentage opens the door to things too, or the lack of learning how to indentify with your gender.
@MANDAWAH Now this is the most "sound" response that I have ever heard on this subject. And it does make sense when you analyze it. That's why the Bible says "spare the rod spoil the child, and train up a child in the way he should go that way when he is old he will not depart from it." So, good job with your response.
@SolidRockTelevision I also think that people are looking of someone to identify with, and if a certain person comes along, then they identify with them, because they are lonely and they get caught up. With the homosexuals that I knew, their lives were hard and I think when they got a certain age, some hated their choice in love, even in straight people, but more with them. The choice to be gay feels natural to them because the feelings come when they are so young out of confusion with life.
I agree but I find the second type of gay person, as you call it, is a very tiny percentage of gay people. I know friends who experimented when they we're younger, but aren't gay as I would class myself.
Good comments. I like the way you break it down and analyze the varying directions it comes from. Regardless of how it started, I'm pretty certain that it never starts from one person just waking up and 'choosing' to be gay. It's either deep down in there and holds some degree of allure, or it doesn't. I'm late, but I've finally ended this debate once and for all :-)
There is no doubt that you personally are a good and decent person with above average intelligence. Yet I was wondering what the purpose of this clip was. You use "should" so many times that it is difficult to specifically identify your position. Here's mine- leave people alone and let them love whomever they want; it's their business and no body else's. Some of the comments blow are pathetic with talk about Sodom, etc. Abraham's family was a collection of nutcases and they weren't destroyed
Joshua was killing all kinds of Canaanites and he wasn't destroyedor even condemned. Stop using a collection of Biblical fairytales to determine "normality" in modern behavior. If "gayness" is biological in people, then they shouldn't be tortured by their "God" with "straightness" culture and invective by Bible thumpers. To you final comments, I must note that the connotative meaning of "love" and "lust" are often interwined and then complicated by personal ideology. Levae religion out of it.
If you are born with male or female genitals you are meant to be a heterosexual. Homosexuality is not sex; it is abuse of the human anatomy. Like smoking and other habits, homosexuality is a habit rooted in exposure. Just like child molestation or bestiality. Homosexuality has nothing to do with love; it is selfish disrespect for your gender and bodies. Just because you love your pet or relative doesn’t mean you are supposed to have sex with them to express it, nor with the same sex.
God duz not love all forms of love cuz he wud not hav destroyed Sodom and Gommorha. Read Romans cahpter 1 to the ending of the chapter and u wud see wat God has to say. Sometimes i believe we disregard wat God says to try to justify our own opinions! God's way are not our ways and we hav to hav faith in him and believe exactly wat he says in order to make it to heaven or we wud be eternally lost and Jesus Christ is the only one who cans ave us!!! believe dat!!!
i think you guys are fooling yourselves into believing that ppl are born gay. fisrt if u believe in God you wud not say such a thing cuz it wud be foolish for God to allow someone to be borned gay and his Words says that homosexuality is a sin. You hav a choice who you sleep with u even tlked about natural urges but frankly speaking two women can't hav sex and the anus was not made for a penis. Doctors wud tell u dat. and Yes God loves all humans but he hates there sins.
Yes he is right, ppl are born gay. It is a scientific fact ppl can be born gay or bi or lesbian. But if I were gay I certainly would not want to be. And ppl out there that r going against non heteralsexuals are wrong bc sometimes it's not always there fault
.. cont .. That regardless of which treatment they received (behavior therapy, talk therapy and nothing), the conversion results were the same. Approximately one third did change, approximately one third went back and forth between homosexuality and heterosexuality and the last third did not change at all. That is, approximately one their of the homosexual men who were **highly motivated** to change, were able to accomplish it. This suggests that sexual orientation for most people is immutable.
There is no clinical evidence for your assertions that sexual orientation is either chosen or caused by specific childhood traumas. There is evidence from identical twins separated at birth, that there is a small correlation of their sexual orientation. As for choice, there was a study reported in 1979 that for homosexual men, who were strongly motivated to convert to heterosexuality (i.e., they *wanted* to make that choice). ... cont
that`s how i think I turned gay, I was molested when I was 11 years old, and had no friends, and this dude was trying to be nice to me so he could have sex with me, and somehow i mis interpreted it as him liking me, instead of just using me to pardon the expression suck his dick. I`ve been gay ever since, and been in the closet, and now I`m partially out, but I think I`ll always be in and out of the closet. I just want to say I love oyur videos, and want to listen to them all. Thank you.
SEX is absolutely a choice,... who a person decides to have sex with is absolutely a choice,... how could it not be, when you have a CHOICE to do it or not? Sexual preference IS choosing! Anything else is just an excuse to ease the guilt of one being homosexual. Its funny how someone could blame anything, or anybody else for their own sexual pleasure,... thats a very weak mind!
@mw94533 There's a very easy way to prove or disprove your theory- you should become homosexual for 24 hours. Psych yourself up and temporarily change your preference for a single day, it's your choice after all.
Get back to me after your sodomy-spree or kindly shut the fuck up.
@mw94533 Oh no, I'm being sincere. If it's a choice like you said, then it should be easy to make, it should be as easy for a gay man to switch from men to women as it would be for you to switch from women to men. So go ahead, prove yourself right and jackhammer a fag like a lubed-up construction-site.Can't do it? Then you're obviously wrong about your sexuality being a choice.
No on is BORN homosexual. It's called a sexual "preference" because it's what you prefer, which there tells you it's a choice. I was born black. That's part of my genetic make up. I'm straight. That's my choice not part of my make up. No one is born with a preference. With that said, I am not homophobic. I don't care what you choose. As long as you treat me and mine right, I'll treat you the same. I know someone is going to disagree with me on here and that's fine but I'm not changing my mind.
The addicted ones are choosing to be born that way. There is nothing embedded in you. YOur molested comment is straight on, but for reasons you homo's don't quite get. Sex and the act of orgasm are addictive, and you could just as easily get addicted to women than a dude. Blacks have way too much tail on their mind.
Continuation... But that can be healed and delivered through Christ, in His name. God doesn't create imperfect or homosexuals through birth... it would contradict His word.
Continuation... The world has now taken over what dictates religion, since there are so MANY "types" of Christians, I.E. theologies, doctrines, denominations. Plain and simple: God loves everyone (no matter what). God detests homosexuality. Everything in God is good. Therefore, God can not create gays (They're not born w/ it). It is a spirit caused by any of several reasons and the victim needs deliverance of it. Yes, there other defects and people are born with them.
homosexuals were not born gay. if so, it would contradict what God was trying to do... and speaking of that, God only made Perfect people, not imperfect people... Sin made us the way we are... and God detests homosexuality...
I am saying exactly what my friend said below... just in different words... :
Below, is one of my friends's response on FB:
Religion has been so extremely distorted. It would be great if the religion "Christianity" all meant the same to everyone...but it doesn't.
there it was again: the "Homosexual Phase"... has anyone ever seen such a Phase? I mean really witnessed on oneself or someone really close? All I know are lots of people who wasted years of their teens or even twenties thinking (and sometimes hoping) "it" might be over soon....
Ummm!!! yes i think his video was well thought out and put together. However, i think he was a lillte off about kids being molested are not origionally gay or bi. From the age of 1-9 i call the hard-drive yrs. these yrs children are soo impressionalbe and what happenz during these few years stays with them as the general core of their characters for the rest of their lives. So if a child is molested during those yrs, repeatedly, then its is a good chance that the child would turn out
@NewYorkCityBoy123 - If you are having sexual attraction at 6 (prepubescent), there was something seriously wrong with you and your environment. When I was 6, I was turned on by awesome Tonka Trucks
Great video- One thing I had trouble with though is when you say that people who love both genders are just horny. Many bi-sexual individuals are in monogamous relationships. Bi-sexuality is simply seeing sexual organs like hair color. You might not understand it, but that is the way bi-sexuals were born- not to view sexual organs as the be all end all.I might have misunderstood ur message but I felt I heard some myths about bi-sexuality in it...Though on a whole your message is well thought:)
so i guess you removed that because you were wrong? or maybe you were right and wanted to keep it confidential...bi's are just horny as are gays, and therein lies the defect...
no I removed the list of animals because it didn't properly appear under your response and seemed out of the blue. But now that you clearly want the list i'll make it simple for you: name any single animal out there, there is a a gay population in it. Also, on another note, since when are heterosexual individuals NOT HORNY!?! your honestly in deep denial if you think ALL HUMANS are not equal. Homosexuals, heterosexual, Asexuals, bi-sexuals. ALL are people and all can be bad or GOOD.
the choice is not the attraction i mean you like what you like the choice is following your urges to do what feels right or do not because others frown upon you
or do not because no matter how strong the urge is, it may be wrong...just like if you had the choice to kill someone if they willingly killed your family, the urge would be strong, but you have to make the right decision...
well, seeing as how sex is supposed to be specifically for reproduction, you can see how being gay is bad...there is no way anything can occur during gay sex except for pleasure, so it is a totally useless act for individuals with a sex problem...gays are mentally defective...
I have a question for you - whenever 2 straight people are having sex do they ALWAYS produce children and do straight people have sex simply to further the human race - also, if two straight people who are both unable to have kids have sex are they wrong?????
@FabledVerse thats a pretty cunning answer. It comes down to the purpose of sex. The purpose of sex is to reproduce. Homosexual intercourse is a dead end. It cant produce a child. Pretty simple really.
really? name one species other than humans that has any homosexual animal in it...can'? didn't think so, in nature there is no place where an animal can benifit from homosexuality, in fact if everyone were gay, the human race would go extinct...and by the way, if straight sex will produce some homos then that means it will also produce those with mental diseases, take any hereditary disease for example, strait sex produced them too, but they are defective, like gays...
i didn't ask for a website, i asked you to provide facts from any research you may have done...you failed to do so, and because of this you seem to have less intelligence then before...which is quite hard to pull off...just you keep in mind, gays are diseased mentally, and are freaks of nature born with chemical imbalances, further more, i am done arguing with someone who has such a one track mind as yourself...good day...
not sexual varitation, disease, mental illness, one or both. it has to do with both choice and illness, and exactly where do you think i cited the bible or religion...who is the one with the mental illness, heteros or homos...choose reason and intelligence....
@LTheDetective3 If we are not supposed to have sex for pleasure, why does the clitoris and the prostate gland exist? If sex is only specifically just for reproduction, why do humans have these? The idea that sex is only for reproduction is ridiculous. I am including heterosexual people in this question.
Because we totally need more kids on the planet, to eat all of the excess food, and to take up all of the excess space, right? Also, it's not like gays are the most effective group, in helping kids in need of homes, right? Those foster kids don't need homes. It's not like hetero parents are the ones that abused, and abandoned these kids to the evil claws of the system. Hetero parents are all too mentally-sound for that shit.
So wait - useless acts that are only for pleasure indicate a defect? So, since my legs are designed for walking, I should not be inline skating, because I was never supposed to have wheels under my feet? I'm signing up for therapy NOW!
By the way, I'm pretty confident that therapy will work on my skating problem, because skating was actually a personal choice.
@LTheDetective3 "sex is supposed to be specifically for reproduction" "there is no way anything can occur during gay sex except for pleasure" - so doing something for pleasure is somehow wrong? sex should only be done in attempt to reproduce? why?
well you might be on to something i know someone who was molested by 2 women when he was younger one was sadly a family member and the other a girl in a woman's shelter. this man today can't stand to touch a woman due to this. he has many woman friends but when asked to touch a woman's breast he gets so nervous ...it is kind of like when im asked to touch another person of the same sex, is how he explained it.
omg u reallii touched me with this video ... n i find everything that u said to b so tru ... to me i think if god is our creater n he mad us n he loves us then y shud ppl look down on us homosexuals u kno he loves ppl for them n just cuz a person is gay doesnt mean it cancels out everything good they have done in there life tyme .. i just find it reallii messed up... thank u so much for speakiin out for us with such intelligence .. by the way my name is angie n imma subscribe to u rii now thanks
From a biological standpoint homosexuality would make a lot of sense, its necessary in society. Take this perspective, its population regulation. I myself is heterosexual, I personally don't agree with homosexuality or bisexuality but the reason is due to those whom aren't open abt it which cause a whole lot of confusion and pain. You know one bad apple would spoil a bunch. Not to say thats for all cases, I just know that it is understandable from a biological pov.
We are talking about 66 books written by different authors but consistently touching on the same themes. Not to mention the apocrypha..books written that are not in the cannonized Bible but nonetheless supports what the Bible says. The dead sea scrolls are a prime example. To deny the Bible is like denying textbooks on American History. And we are talking about a Bible that contains moral precepts needed in a country where the poor are taken advantaged of, there is greed, racism and hate.etc
@jamel11234 why do you think its so hard to find different short books that have the same theme? the bible was put together by people, they gathered a bunch of writings together and voted on the ones to put in the bible. this isn't supernatural, its called editing.
Other than the Bible can you find different short books that is consistent about the main character (God)?, his or her character, how he or she deals with people, etc....umm I would say its very hard...find me the writings of 20-25 of this worlds best authors, put their writings together and see if the theme is consistent..you know more people would believe if they just researched this stuff and used a little common sense, but know we would rather believe that life just came out of no where.sure
@jamel11234 you think that its so hard to find writings from different people that have a vaguley similar theme that if one does so then its supernatural? really?
Well if you think that "vaguely" is the appropriate word then you have not read the Bible from Gen to Rev. I would use a more concrete term than vaguely-- your comments are a bit misinformed
i have read the bible, you haven't thought about it. why would it be hard to take writings from different people and edit them together in a book? why would it be supernatural? what is this claim that its so hard to put together a book about god that if someone did it then its some supernatural book? especially when we know how the book was put together?!!
@jamel11234 explaining how the bible was put together is a vast complex topic and is beyond the scope of this conversation, you obviously have no idea how it was put together and you seem to think it happened by magic. look it up.
I wasnt asking because I do not know I was asking so that I can hear your misguided view. Why would I take the word of a cynic who obviously has not studied it and approaches the subject with a preconcieved bias. So beyond the scope of this conversation?? Right..just say you do not know what in the world you are talking about because even though its extensive you should be able to explain it in a few sentences-- try again! I have already looked it up...the books are right here in my study.
@jamel11234 the bible was put together by people, the books were selected. why would it be so hard to find writings that sort of fit together? especially on such a topic? not only would it be possible, it would be rather easy. so this whole idea that it must have been magic because it was so hard to find these books is laughably stupid. any idiot can edit together other peoples writings to make them loosely fit. its not magic.
So basically all you have to go on is speculation, assumption and your personal opinion...you are obviously making an argument from ignorance-- not very convincing
@errskin only one thing... The Bible WAS and IS God-breathed... God inspired all of the disciples and other people HE chose to use so that it would be written... Yes, they did vote on which books to put in the Bible... but they were used by God to put together the Bible...
God? what about Harry Potter or Gandalf? Why stick to one fictional character. If you are really stupid enough to believe in God, then you're a fucking disgrace. It was acceptable in the middle ages, but in this day and age, you people are an insult to humanity.
Christianity made the medieval period a barbaric time. Jews being burned alive, Muslim lands being invaded. All in the name of a stupid little myth, and a disgusting book - the Bible.
God and christianity has been around for ages and all of sudden its going to be faux pa? Well maybe in America and american culture-- where we are glad to move towards being a godless immoral nation. Furthermore there are historians from Jesus day that attests to his existance, firthermore archeological discoveries support the Bible as an authentic book of actual historical events. The Bible has been derived from manuscripts themselves written by actual people that existed
Just like we have a choice on rather we want to exept Jesus as our savior or not we have a choice on rather we want to live a homosexual life or not, and I feel that Noone is born gay but we have a choice on rather we want to be that way or not.
whatever you say..What you are saying doesnt bother me one bit because what your saying is nothing new under the sun because people constantly denyed jesus and the truth back in the bible days. just remember what you just said when you find out that god is real...Because if it wasnt for him you wouldnt be breathing right now...GOD BLESS YOU!!!
Don't 'God bless me'. If God was real, I'm sure that he would be capable of blessing me himself, you self righteous moron. Jesus never existed, only children and deluded idiots believe otherwise. Christianity is dying out, thank God!
You medieval freaks won't be around for long. I don't mean that you are going to die or anything. I just mean that religion is rapidly becoming a shameful practice. Soon it will be something of a faux pa to believe in God.
See you just contradicted yourself.. In your paragraph you wrote you said "Thank God" if you did not believe in god you wouldn't have said that phrase..The bible says only a fool will say in his heart that there is no God.
'Thank God' was a sarcastic joke. Sorry if you don't understand sarcasm, it's quite common in the U.K. Why mention the Bible? I'm not a Christian, remember? If something is written in the bible, it's probably wise to do the opposite.
i'm so sorry to say that christianity is not a religion it's a relationship with christ it's not a religion second if jesus how did thousands of people seen him? just saying and the antichrist it's on his way as a matter of fact you might be on of his followers.his followers want you to belive there's no christ
No, it is a religion. It is a set of beliefs and traditions, based on the adventures of a self righteous egotist in a fictional book.
There is no Anti-Christ, no Leprechauns, no pixies and no Jesus. Christianity is disgusting, evil and a massive insult to human dignity. The sooner it's gone, the better.
sorry you need to read more christianty is not or never will be a a religion did you ever study the roots of christianty i bet you haven't first lie the devil ever told he never excisted. and soon as the christians gone the antichrist has to get rid of the christians to do his work i promise you america is going to hell in a handbasket
You're the one who believes in the devil, not me. If the devil was real, I'd rather follow him than Jesus. Christianity is the evil one, not some mythological beast. Christianity is the one that caused so many Jews and Pagans to be burned at the stake. Christianity is scum. Christianity is the one that fuels hateful ideologies such as homophobia.
i figured you didn't study the roots of christianty because if you did christians was tortured burned alive just for beliving in christ christians was mistreated more than any other group in the world that's a fact. but you did answered my question though
So what if Christians were burned alive, they did the very same thing to thousands of Jews and other people. It is you that doesn't know the roots of Christianity. You haven't even mastered the basics of English grammar, it's no wonder you're stupid enough to believe in such primitive nonsense.
@moodini99 hmmm... appropriate name for your comments... anyways... you are right in one aspect and in one aspect only... that Christians don't choose to follow Jesus... They are CHOSEN BY GOD HIMSELF... and as for the 'teaching of the Bible being worse than paedophilia' (however you spell it....), that is one of the Best things anyone can do... and more importantly nowadays... where morals have been Thrown out the windows...
God? what about Harry Potter or Gandalf? Why stick to one fictional character. If you are really stupid enough to believe in God, then you're a fucking disgrace. It was acceptable in the middle ages, but in this day and age, you people are an insult to humanity.
Christianity made the medieval period a barbaric time. Jews being burned alive, Muslim lands being invaded. All in the name of a stupid little myth, and a disgusting book - the Bible.
It seems to be a typical American sensitivity whether homosexuality is a choice or not, apparently because of the predisposition that gay behaviour is somehow wrong. There is no basis for that assumption at all, nobody gets hurt by same-gender sex, so who cares if it's a choice or not.
God is the creator of all things!.. and if God does not approve of Homosexuality then that lets you know something had to happen! for them to go that way. anything against the will and purpose of God, then its not of God, and you have to pray that those type of people get delivered...on the Spiritual Side.
Homosexuality is definately a choice. Being hetrosexual is also a choice.
I want my own children (not adopted) so I have to be in a hetro relationship.
Religious beliefs, Upbringing, peer pressure, and other influences plays a part to this choice.
However, I can choose right now to be gay .. I dont want to, It doesnt mean I was born 'straight.' honestly, i was born not giving a crap about my sexual orientation, all this develops as you grow older ... IT IS A CHOICE
What part of "we don't know the underlying cause of homosexuality" do you not understand? If we don't know what causes homosexuality then how can we possibly tell whether it's a choice or not? Yes, acting on homosexual urges is a choice, but we can't say that the homosexual desires are a choice. Right now the strongest evidence points to homosexuality being a polygenic trait.
So this is to Tavereen... I disagree with everything you said.. everyone has their own opioion about everything. I have always been attracted to men and have tried being with a woman and its not me.. im not happy.. everything goes wrong, i dont even know how to speak to a woman.. with a man i can go hey lets &(&* but with a woman you cant really say that.. so yea i believe i was born this way, god created me... he gave me will power but he still created me. IM happy that im gay. post some FACTS
Last I checked I never once stated that homosexuality was a choice, in fact evidence indicates that it's not. We don't know whether it's a polygenic trait or whether it's a result of upbringing, or whether it's akin to a birth defect. Personally I favor the polygenic trait hypothesis but at this point we don't know what the underlying cause of homosexual behavior is.
ITS NOT A CHOICE.. and being brought up has nothign to do with it either.. and why do you keep sayin "we" are you refering to straight people or what? who is we. or let me guess your playin Dr. phil right?
The we I am referring to is all of humanity, although more specifically the scientific community.
And have you even read my posts? I specifically said that the evidence indicates that homosexuality is NOT a choice, but we don't know for sure yet. I offered the idea that one's upbringing could be a contributing factor because it IS a possibility, whether you'd like to think so or not. Like I said, I prefer the polygenic trait hypothesis.
ppl can be gay if they want 2...God just doesn't like it & if there is no repentance from the sin b4 u die..u won't enter the kingdom of heaven...just like anyone PRACTICING any other sin that God abhors. Simple.
You obviously haven't studied this topic in detail, or you've been studying biased and inaccurate material. You clearly don't have a clue as to the possible causes of homosexual behavior.
All of the research shows that it is not a choice. Besides, you've made the unsupported assumption that a god or gods exist.
Its not a choice, if someone turns gay or lesbian, they weren't 100% straight, they already had homosexual tendencies...if you're 100% gay or lesbian and are attracted to ONLY the same sex and you DONT find the opposite sex attractive, its IMPOSSIBLE to turn straight unless you weren't gay or lesbian in the first place...when people say its a choice, they're livin a lie as a straight person.
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lilfenty3292 1 month ago
@lilfenty3292 they were forced to be straight cause people tellin them "gay is wrong" so they're forced to be with the opposite sex...what ANNOYS me about homophobes is how they try to change the LGBT Community, if they're NOT attracted to the opposite sex, homophobes CANT force them to be attracted to the opposite sex, they just have to accept the fact its who they are...if you're gay, lesbian, bisexual, transsexual, BE HAPPY and EMBRACE IT.
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lilfenty3292 1 month ago
@lilfenty3292 one of the most annoyin things I HATE hearin come out of a homophobe's "love the sinner hate the sin", thats sayin they still HATE the LGBT Community, they dont want them to be themselves...if I can love the woman I love, I see nothin wrong with two women or two men who love each other, people base homosexual relationship all on sex, which its NOT, its about LOVE, if a relationship is based on sex only, what kinda relationship is that?
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lilfenty3292 1 month ago
@lilfenty3292 God bless the dead, but when my girlfriend (R.I.P) was alive, our relationship was based on love, emotionally, spiritually, not just sex, even though we've made love, we were virgins til we met each other, I was 13 and she was 14 at the time, but we were VERY mature for our ages at the time, Im 19 now and still mature for my age, a-d-d just kicked in, took me places I didnt need to go lol...but anyway, Im 100% straight and pro-gay.
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lilfenty3292 1 month ago
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PEOPLE WHO SAY that being GAY IS A CHOICE
MEANS that THEYRE BISEXUAL!
Because BISEXUALS are the ONLY ones that can CHOOSE between the 2 sexes!
Im pretty sure SOME of the HETEROS wouldnt like to hear the truth about their REAL sexuality and the only way to battle that is by becoming Homophobes.
REAL STRAIGHT PEOPLE are OK with gays cause their SECURE with their sexuality and dont feel threatened by gay people.
NuLaifMusic 2 months ago
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MARCH 2010 UPDATE: "GAY" GENE FOUND!
Here's a video you should watch on you tube:
The 'Gay Brain' Explained - Louann Brizendine
Also just google:
GAY BRAIN
And you're going to see all the recent discovery that gay man's brain is like a females and lesbians brains are like males.
Scientifictly proven, that is NOT A CHOICE AND IS NOT A SIN, you are who you are since the night your parents... well... you know... and here we are!
NuLaifMusic 2 months ago
I don't claim to own the truth, but I beg to disagree with you on the molestation part.
I believe that a victim of sexual abuse is more likely to have their sexual behavior impacted, not their sexual orientation. And what I mean by that is that a child who's been molested may have problems in a romantic relationship, for instance, not being able to commit to or trust the person they're with, maybe become a violent person or things like that, but the natural sexual orientation can not be driven.
CBJAMPA 2 months ago
Homosexuality is NOT a choice in no shape, form, or fashion!! A person does not turn to homosexuality because of molestation but because of a uncontrolable attraction he or she has for the same sex. If that theory was true, there would be a LOT more gay people in this world.
qblack83 3 months ago
i have not been damaged and the truth is sexual behavior can be genetic it cant be a choice because im gay and i have been trying to grow out of it since i was 13 and now im 20 and im still gay.
ittybittypiggy81 3 months ago
i dont mean i was born gay but i just developed into being gay. i cant stand it when people are so wrong when they think they are right
ittybittypiggy81 3 months ago
I dont think its a choice either but we do choose to lay with people unless it is forced upon us. I have a question for you are you gay and if so did you choose to be that way or have you always felt that way of being gay.
eddieericjr 3 months ago
Gay is a choice. People choose to love all sorts of things in this life, some love animals, some love objects, some love children, some love furries, so dont tell me it is not a choice. And if some people are damaged as you say by life experiences and become gay then how do you know the rest of them arent "damaged" as well by their life experiences.
papertreegun 4 months ago
@papertreegun go shit yourself im gay and i didnt choose to be this way and i have not been "damaged" i dont even want to be gay because of the fact that everyone hates gay people for some reason and sometimes i even cry about it so dont tell me being gay is a choice.
ittybittypiggy81 3 months ago
what this young man says beginning from frame 0:40 about young boys having experience with older men is the truth for ALL gays.
They all had some homo experience at younger age and decided they liked it and wanted to keep doing it. They have not grown up.
Only those in denial of this create the illusion that they were born gay. Nobody is born with sex on their mind. They learn sex from another or something they see in secular soceity.
SistersOfTruth 5 months ago
@SistersOfTruth Bullshit . And im a gay man, who also dated women.. And guess what, I liked it. And being gay is so much more then thinking about sex. Let me guess, its the old religious rant of sexual identity is determined by your actions? And getting involved into sex is just a result from personal development.
And btw... personal development isn't any different in a religious society. Gay people will get sex, even in a strong religious society that bans "gay".
Ranokian 4 months ago
@Ranokian you are a unrepentant reprobate. A twisted individual that wants everybody to accept your wicked sinful behavior.
SistersOfTruth 4 months ago
@SistersOfTruth Acceptance? Nah, not really. I'm not looking for that. There are plenty of things and life styles I wouldn't choose, like using drugs, and I wouldn't be promiscuous. But I wouldn't go around telling lies about those people. That is the difference between you and me I guess. Even a lie in the name of God is still a lie, dear sister of Truth. So I dont care if you accept me or not, I just want you to act like a more civilized person. You have a religion, not Tourette syndrome.
Ranokian 4 months ago
@SistersOfTruth exactly they try to force us to believe they are powerless to make their own choice when it is clearly not the case. Gay is a choice.
papertreegun 4 months ago
Also, I think just because a boy grows up without a father, doesn't give him an excuse to be gay. That's bullshit! I was raised by my mom, & have two sisters. I'm just fucking fine! If you're gay, you just naturally like the opposite sex, but you definitely were not born that way! Babies don't know shit! Follow me on Twitter @jjtwit55555. #TeamFollowBack
55555jtube 6 months ago
You can't be born gay! No such thing. You don't even know enough when you're a baby to even be gay or straight. & you can't choose a natural feeling. If you're attracted to the same sex, it's because you just like the same sex. You can't just say (out of the blue one day) "Oh, I think I wanna be gay now.". No! You can't just choose. & I was molested, but I'm straight. So... There's no excuse!
55555jtube 6 months ago
Mouseover to exactly 3:12, click repeatedly.
jgrant095 7 months ago
You show me proof that babies have a sexuality when born. Show me two babies having sex with the same sex and then I will believe that born gay thought. I embellished in the lifestyle for 8 years but have since been delivered from those actions. So I can say that my actions were definitely a choice. What ever your attractions are means nothing until you consummate it with actions. Remember Gay means Homosexual and Homosexual means the ACT of having sex with the same sex. God bless you. Luv 1
YourBruthaJay 7 months ago
what ur saying makes sence and is very logical . i wish everybody were as tolerant as u are . but that is not the case...
rafyaloowan 7 months ago
Give up on the whole God thing and become Agnostic, and also lose the notion of being "proud" of being homosexual. Sexual orientation has nothing to do with pride or shame, any more than liking Chinese food does. Your concept of self-worth is based on your accomplishments as an individual, not on who you like to sleep with or what ethnic, national, religous, or racial group you were born into.
Alexisme1001 1 year ago
is that guy behind you a statue, picture he is not moving.1
somrazy3 1 year ago
lol did you add music to make it more dramatic
redmann009 1 year ago
did yall both had sex? just curious!!
Toxic581 1 year ago
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i wouldnt rule it out
LakersChargersAngels 1 year ago
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ROM:1 26,27 "For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another." I believe their are people that are by nature gay. Naturally perverted because of the state of fallen man. Its not our duty to defend our fallen nature but to seek to be set free from it. The scripture clearly states it is wrong. God bless.
coreywhisenant 1 year ago
To begin with, love the vid & your view points. I have been reading the posts here for 2 hours now & I want to point out (I know an arguement will probably start) that the origins of Christianity were founded in Ancient Egypt. The Ten Commandments are infact from The Egyptian Book of The Dead. Moses would have been aware of this because he was raised in the Egyptian Royal Family. The belief in one God also stems from Ancient Egypt. It was practiced briefly 100 years before the birth of Moses.
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jimsed1964 1 year ago
Homosexuality is a spirit.
rachel4779 1 year ago
i do not think its anything wrong with it either
spokenwordable 1 year ago
i agree
spokenwordable 1 year ago
dont be affraid to live a rightous life style before god because god has already wrote down the rules for us to live by you are not responseble for the wrong someone di to you but be responsible for the choices you make for yor self the word says choose ye this day whom you will serve ,
MRLANGFORD100 1 year ago
I believe its a choice....
shondabundy84 1 year ago
I feel that homosexuality is a choice. I believe that some people are born attracted to the same sex, But its when they act on their sexual feelings is what turns them gay. If u look up the word homo in the dictionary, it means same sex. In the bible God said that loving someone who is of the same sex as you love your wife/husband is ok. 1Samuel & 2Samuel, talks about the relationship of David & Jonathan, and how David's love for Jonathan surpassed the love of a women. So w/that being said
shondabundy84 1 year ago
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God is the author of everything. No one is loved less. Free will is bogus. There are no "choices" of our own. God was the "cause" of "Satan" was the "cause" of Eve, Adam, and the fall of man. It was God's Fall of Man. we will all be family. God throws no one under the bus.
WalkntheDark 1 year ago
Nothin wrong with sex, if both people want it. Most straight people do "disgusting" things. If you're a man and having sex with another man is not your sort of thing, then just don't do it! But it is for a lot of people! And they're not any more disgusting than a straight couple where a man will stick his penis into the moist insides of a woman's body.
CarazyGibbon 1 year ago
some straight couple are unable to produce children, whether it be a female or a male thing. Yet they stay together (or some do) and just adopt
or if they dont adopt does that mean that they're staying together on pure pleasure alone? i think not.
there is nothing bad about being gay
just as there is nothing bad about being straight
68angelwings 1 year ago
some straight couple are unable to produce children, whether it be a female or a male thing. Yet they stay together (or some do) and just adopt
or if they dont adopt does that mean that they're staying together on pure pleasure alone? i think not.
68angelwings 1 year ago
i dont think anyone should have to reform if they are gay, then again that is based off spiritual and religious beliefs, but without that in the equation we should embrace who we are despite how we arrived to that destination, if that is what you are comfortable being physically mentally and spiritually. but its up to the individual to live their life according to those 3 aspects, and no one elses. but in short people lack respect for that which is not their own
cyranonow 1 year ago
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aaliyahboo 1 year ago
I think no one has any right to put a personal belief on a segment of society simply because they disagree with the sexual orientation of another human being. If you think being gay is wrong and your not attracted to the same sex then mind your bizness and keep it moving. I don't care what folks do sexually if I'm not that persons sex partner. It's none of my bizness. God made everyone so who stands in judgement is a better question. You feel what's inside and that is not a choice it's your nat
morpheusmann 1 year ago
If being gay was a choice: "I'm going to have sex with men, even though I am naturally attracted to women".. ermm... nutter!
If being gay is just how it is: "I'm going to have sex with men because I am attracted to men." ..hmm, makes sense.
Now, you can choose to believe that it IS a choice if you want (even though the example above suggests it's a rediculous idea), or you can be smart and settle for the 'they're just gay, get over it!' idea.
CarazyGibbon 1 year ago
@CarazyGibbon Saying its not a choice is a cop-out to justify their mischievous behaviour.
PimpernellP 1 year ago
Sorry, molestation may mess a person up, but it doesn't make them gay. Otherwise a good video.
QuisletEsq 1 year ago
marriage isnt just for christians but when yhu get married its a gift from god no one cares about what christians have to say at the end of the day its whats god says .
kjsings16 1 year ago
Yes, in this case it’s a choice for prisoners to have sexual relations. But it is a choice that is mutually beneficial. Not that they "fall in love", but they do it to mutually consent and not kill one another. Prison's are violent so one can expect that submitting to Satan "saves" their life or lives. In this case, the choice to "be homosexual" is a MORAL one, and can OBSERVED to be moral by others in this case if the alternative is violent death.
Andrewlohbihler 1 year ago
your name is appropriate, you are making fables out of the verses. You have very basic, humanistic views. You need an encounter with Jesus Christ. Do not settle for worldly info, seek the true wisdom which comes from God. Just because something makes sense does not make it true. wake up and seek God, He will use you to spread true wisdom.
Awakenministries1 1 year ago
your name is appropriate, you are making fables out of the verses. You have very basic, humanistic views. You need an encounter with Jesus Christ. Do not settle for worldly info, seek the true wisdom which comes from God. Just because something makes sense does not make it true.
Awakenministries1 1 year ago
Homosexuality is a ingrained choice. Kids make choices all the time, they can choose which toy to play with, so why cant they choose what they like at a early age? When a kid is born, it does not have a sexual preference, they learn to love who they want to love. Now some people, I also think sexual abuse and the lack of parentage opens the door to things too, or the lack of learning how to indentify with your gender.
MANDAWAH 1 year ago
@MANDAWAH Now this is the most "sound" response that I have ever heard on this subject. And it does make sense when you analyze it. That's why the Bible says "spare the rod spoil the child, and train up a child in the way he should go that way when he is old he will not depart from it." So, good job with your response.
SolidRockTelevision 1 year ago
@SolidRockTelevision I also think that people are looking of someone to identify with, and if a certain person comes along, then they identify with them, because they are lonely and they get caught up. With the homosexuals that I knew, their lives were hard and I think when they got a certain age, some hated their choice in love, even in straight people, but more with them. The choice to be gay feels natural to them because the feelings come when they are so young out of confusion with life.
MANDAWAH 1 year ago
I agree but I find the second type of gay person, as you call it, is a very tiny percentage of gay people. I know friends who experimented when they we're younger, but aren't gay as I would class myself.
Also love the marvel poster.
GayByProxy 1 year ago
The overly sexual phase really threw me cause you have a lot folks who are overly sexual beyond the phase
TSquared2001 1 year ago
Good comments. I like the way you break it down and analyze the varying directions it comes from. Regardless of how it started, I'm pretty certain that it never starts from one person just waking up and 'choosing' to be gay. It's either deep down in there and holds some degree of allure, or it doesn't. I'm late, but I've finally ended this debate once and for all :-)
BigStr8Al 1 year ago
There is no doubt that you personally are a good and decent person with above average intelligence. Yet I was wondering what the purpose of this clip was. You use "should" so many times that it is difficult to specifically identify your position. Here's mine- leave people alone and let them love whomever they want; it's their business and no body else's. Some of the comments blow are pathetic with talk about Sodom, etc. Abraham's family was a collection of nutcases and they weren't destroyed
hlwrites 1 year ago
Joshua was killing all kinds of Canaanites and he wasn't destroyedor even condemned. Stop using a collection of Biblical fairytales to determine "normality" in modern behavior. If "gayness" is biological in people, then they shouldn't be tortured by their "God" with "straightness" culture and invective by Bible thumpers. To you final comments, I must note that the connotative meaning of "love" and "lust" are often interwined and then complicated by personal ideology. Levae religion out of it.
hlwrites 1 year ago
If you are born with male or female genitals you are meant to be a heterosexual. Homosexuality is not sex; it is abuse of the human anatomy. Like smoking and other habits, homosexuality is a habit rooted in exposure. Just like child molestation or bestiality. Homosexuality has nothing to do with love; it is selfish disrespect for your gender and bodies. Just because you love your pet or relative doesn’t mean you are supposed to have sex with them to express it, nor with the same sex.
shemika341 1 year ago
God duz not love all forms of love cuz he wud not hav destroyed Sodom and Gommorha. Read Romans cahpter 1 to the ending of the chapter and u wud see wat God has to say. Sometimes i believe we disregard wat God says to try to justify our own opinions! God's way are not our ways and we hav to hav faith in him and believe exactly wat he says in order to make it to heaven or we wud be eternally lost and Jesus Christ is the only one who cans ave us!!! believe dat!!!
ed12able 1 year ago
i think you guys are fooling yourselves into believing that ppl are born gay. fisrt if u believe in God you wud not say such a thing cuz it wud be foolish for God to allow someone to be borned gay and his Words says that homosexuality is a sin. You hav a choice who you sleep with u even tlked about natural urges but frankly speaking two women can't hav sex and the anus was not made for a penis. Doctors wud tell u dat. and Yes God loves all humans but he hates there sins.
ed12able 1 year ago
Yes he is right, ppl are born gay. It is a scientific fact ppl can be born gay or bi or lesbian. But if I were gay I certainly would not want to be. And ppl out there that r going against non heteralsexuals are wrong bc sometimes it's not always there fault
SuGaaSwag17 1 year ago
.. cont .. That regardless of which treatment they received (behavior therapy, talk therapy and nothing), the conversion results were the same. Approximately one third did change, approximately one third went back and forth between homosexuality and heterosexuality and the last third did not change at all. That is, approximately one their of the homosexual men who were **highly motivated** to change, were able to accomplish it. This suggests that sexual orientation for most people is immutable.
ttellerx 1 year ago
There is no clinical evidence for your assertions that sexual orientation is either chosen or caused by specific childhood traumas. There is evidence from identical twins separated at birth, that there is a small correlation of their sexual orientation. As for choice, there was a study reported in 1979 that for homosexual men, who were strongly motivated to convert to heterosexuality (i.e., they *wanted* to make that choice). ... cont
ttellerx 1 year ago
that`s how i think I turned gay, I was molested when I was 11 years old, and had no friends, and this dude was trying to be nice to me so he could have sex with me, and somehow i mis interpreted it as him liking me, instead of just using me to pardon the expression suck his dick. I`ve been gay ever since, and been in the closet, and now I`m partially out, but I think I`ll always be in and out of the closet. I just want to say I love oyur videos, and want to listen to them all. Thank you.
amberola1b 1 year ago
SEX is absolutely a choice,... who a person decides to have sex with is absolutely a choice,... how could it not be, when you have a CHOICE to do it or not? Sexual preference IS choosing! Anything else is just an excuse to ease the guilt of one being homosexual. Its funny how someone could blame anything, or anybody else for their own sexual pleasure,... thats a very weak mind!
mw94533 1 year ago
@mw94533 There's a very easy way to prove or disprove your theory- you should become homosexual for 24 hours. Psych yourself up and temporarily change your preference for a single day, it's your choice after all.
Get back to me after your sodomy-spree or kindly shut the fuck up.
Sh0nin 1 year ago
@Sh0nin No where to run for excuses,... so you just talk shit now,... thats typical gay shit!
mw94533 1 year ago
@mw94533 Oh no, I'm being sincere. If it's a choice like you said, then it should be easy to make, it should be as easy for a gay man to switch from men to women as it would be for you to switch from women to men. So go ahead, prove yourself right and jackhammer a fag like a lubed-up construction-site.Can't do it? Then you're obviously wrong about your sexuality being a choice.
Sh0nin 1 year ago
@Sh0nin U R LOST!
mw94533 1 year ago
@mw94533 If I'm lost than why is it that you clearly lose?
Sh0nin 1 year ago
No on is BORN homosexual. It's called a sexual "preference" because it's what you prefer, which there tells you it's a choice. I was born black. That's part of my genetic make up. I'm straight. That's my choice not part of my make up. No one is born with a preference. With that said, I am not homophobic. I don't care what you choose. As long as you treat me and mine right, I'll treat you the same. I know someone is going to disagree with me on here and that's fine but I'm not changing my mind.
Dars29 1 year ago
@Dars29 I agree with you
candygirl050792 9 months ago
The addicted ones are choosing to be born that way. There is nothing embedded in you. YOur molested comment is straight on, but for reasons you homo's don't quite get. Sex and the act of orgasm are addictive, and you could just as easily get addicted to women than a dude. Blacks have way too much tail on their mind.
Dreamsex101 1 year ago
Continuation... But that can be healed and delivered through Christ, in His name. God doesn't create imperfect or homosexuals through birth... it would contradict His word.
DAPOOKSTER09 1 year ago
Continuation... The world has now taken over what dictates religion, since there are so MANY "types" of Christians, I.E. theologies, doctrines, denominations. Plain and simple: God loves everyone (no matter what). God detests homosexuality. Everything in God is good. Therefore, God can not create gays (They're not born w/ it). It is a spirit caused by any of several reasons and the victim needs deliverance of it. Yes, there other defects and people are born with them.
DAPOOKSTER09 1 year ago
homosexuals were not born gay. if so, it would contradict what God was trying to do... and speaking of that, God only made Perfect people, not imperfect people... Sin made us the way we are... and God detests homosexuality...
I am saying exactly what my friend said below... just in different words... :
Below, is one of my friends's response on FB:
Religion has been so extremely distorted. It would be great if the religion "Christianity" all meant the same to everyone...but it doesn't.
DAPOOKSTER09 1 year ago
ha ha ha ...... ha.. ha... ha .. 'bisexuals going through a phase'.. im 28yrs old and im a bisexual.
deadly32 1 year ago
there it was again: the "Homosexual Phase"... has anyone ever seen such a Phase? I mean really witnessed on oneself or someone really close? All I know are lots of people who wasted years of their teens or even twenties thinking (and sometimes hoping) "it" might be over soon....
PmmGarak 1 year ago
Our bodies are just tools to get us from point A. to point B and to reproduce when needed.
Our souls are who we are, we're taught to act like the gender were born in because our souls have no gender.
If our souls had gender we wouldn't have to be taught to act like males or females
from birth it would have been instilled in us just like blinking our eyes and breathing.
MrDio212 1 year ago 3
Ummm!!! yes i think his video was well thought out and put together. However, i think he was a lillte off about kids being molested are not origionally gay or bi. From the age of 1-9 i call the hard-drive yrs. these yrs children are soo impressionalbe and what happenz during these few years stays with them as the general core of their characters for the rest of their lives. So if a child is molested during those yrs, repeatedly, then its is a good chance that the child would turn out
MrKelaross 1 year ago
You are a good guy. Being gay, to me, is not a choice. When I was like 6, I thought men were hot and I didn't even know what " gay " meant ..
NewYorkCityBoy123 1 year ago 21
@NewYorkCityBoy123 Same here.
MrTreJ 10 months ago
@NewYorkCityBoy123 - If you are having sexual attraction at 6 (prepubescent), there was something seriously wrong with you and your environment. When I was 6, I was turned on by awesome Tonka Trucks
BikerBry 3 months ago
Great video- One thing I had trouble with though is when you say that people who love both genders are just horny. Many bi-sexual individuals are in monogamous relationships. Bi-sexuality is simply seeing sexual organs like hair color. You might not understand it, but that is the way bi-sexuals were born- not to view sexual organs as the be all end all.I might have misunderstood ur message but I felt I heard some myths about bi-sexuality in it...Though on a whole your message is well thought:)
vanillasm 1 year ago
so i guess you removed that because you were wrong? or maybe you were right and wanted to keep it confidential...bi's are just horny as are gays, and therein lies the defect...
LTheDetective3 1 year ago
no I removed the list of animals because it didn't properly appear under your response and seemed out of the blue. But now that you clearly want the list i'll make it simple for you: name any single animal out there, there is a a gay population in it. Also, on another note, since when are heterosexual individuals NOT HORNY!?! your honestly in deep denial if you think ALL HUMANS are not equal. Homosexuals, heterosexual, Asexuals, bi-sexuals. ALL are people and all can be bad or GOOD.
vanillasm 1 year ago
the choice is not the attraction i mean you like what you like the choice is following your urges to do what feels right or do not because others frown upon you
TheDestiny708 1 year ago
or do not because no matter how strong the urge is, it may be wrong...just like if you had the choice to kill someone if they willingly killed your family, the urge would be strong, but you have to make the right decision...
LTheDetective3 1 year ago
@LTheDetective3
hahaha Are you comparing 'resisting gay sex' with 'resisting murder'?
Dude, I think we can all agree that actions shouldn't be taken, just because they feel good, or raise your desires.
However, fundies apply this to fags and gay sex.
For this to be correct, it has to be shown that fags or gay sex are BAD.
No evidence exists to show fags or gay sex are BAD.
Only the fundy bible.
MOST people don't believe the fundy bible, especially me!
:)
matt7kiwi 1 year ago
well, seeing as how sex is supposed to be specifically for reproduction, you can see how being gay is bad...there is no way anything can occur during gay sex except for pleasure, so it is a totally useless act for individuals with a sex problem...gays are mentally defective...
LTheDetective3 1 year ago
"mentally defective" ?????????????????????????
I have a question for you - whenever 2 straight people are having sex do they ALWAYS produce children and do straight people have sex simply to further the human race - also, if two straight people who are both unable to have kids have sex are they wrong?????
FabledVerse 1 year ago 15
does it mean they don't long to have kids, or try to in some way? gays are out for pleasure from the start, and are disgusting...
LTheDetective3 1 year ago
@FabledVerse thats a pretty cunning answer. It comes down to the purpose of sex. The purpose of sex is to reproduce. Homosexual intercourse is a dead end. It cant produce a child. Pretty simple really.
PimpernellP 1 year ago
@FabledVerse see.......god even has a solution for that
they are so many kids with no parents
id be better for them to have 2 dads or 2 moms than having nothing
u realy changed mi way of seeng things,thank u for that
i used to be a racist(only for gay people)but u changed that...thank u
stfub100 9 months ago
@LTheDetective3
"sex specifically for reproduction"
Apparently NOT.
Nature has produced HOMOS all through the animal species, including humans.
Nature has ensured that STRAIGHT sex will produce SOME homos.
Therefore NATURE says SOME homos are beneficial for society.
matt7kiwi 1 year ago
really? name one species other than humans that has any homosexual animal in it...can'? didn't think so, in nature there is no place where an animal can benifit from homosexuality, in fact if everyone were gay, the human race would go extinct...and by the way, if straight sex will produce some homos then that means it will also produce those with mental diseases, take any hereditary disease for example, strait sex produced them too, but they are defective, like gays...
LTheDetective3 1 year ago
@LTheDetective3
Hahahaha you ARE a fundy retard lol.
Google "homosexuality nature" get 3 million hits!
Now, I know this data won't be from 'xtian scientists', it's from REAL scientists.
So the fundies call this lies - lol.
No good squeeling your hate at us, go spread your vomit over nature, she caused it! hahaha.
matt7kiwi 1 year ago
i didn't ask for a website, i asked you to provide facts from any research you may have done...you failed to do so, and because of this you seem to have less intelligence then before...which is quite hard to pull off...just you keep in mind, gays are diseased mentally, and are freaks of nature born with chemical imbalances, further more, i am done arguing with someone who has such a one track mind as yourself...good day...
LTheDetective3 1 year ago
@LTheDetective3
Such a weak response dude.
Clearly I am not going to teach you evolutionary facts and the theory of natural selection - not my job.
You need to take responsibility for your OWN, continuing education through life.
I didn't show you ONE website, I showed you millions of connections to MANY websites, which provide verifyable FACTS.
There's a better life for you, but only YOU can become that better person.
matt7kiwi 1 year ago
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vanillasm 1 year ago
@LTheDetective3
"sex specifically for reproduction"
part 2
That means homo is a naturally occuring sexual variation.
NOT a deficiancy or mental illness.
That's why we don't believe stone-aged fairy tale religions.
Only hetero fundies say it's a choice.
Homos say NO choice.
Who knows the most about being homo?
You too, can CHOOSE reason, not superstition :)
matt7kiwi 1 year ago
not sexual varitation, disease, mental illness, one or both. it has to do with both choice and illness, and exactly where do you think i cited the bible or religion...who is the one with the mental illness, heteros or homos...choose reason and intelligence....
LTheDetective3 1 year ago
@LTheDetective3
You and I both know you don't care about FACTS or REALITY.
So why are you sniffin around these fag vids vomiting hate?
If you want to hang out with fags, go to a pub or bar, don't hide behind a keyboard.
Good to see you quoting me "Stupidity is a choice, choose reason!"
matt7kiwi 1 year ago
@LTheDetective3 If we are not supposed to have sex for pleasure, why does the clitoris and the prostate gland exist? If sex is only specifically just for reproduction, why do humans have these? The idea that sex is only for reproduction is ridiculous. I am including heterosexual people in this question.
angrycitizen7 1 year ago
@LTheDetective3
Because we totally need more kids on the planet, to eat all of the excess food, and to take up all of the excess space, right? Also, it's not like gays are the most effective group, in helping kids in need of homes, right? Those foster kids don't need homes. It's not like hetero parents are the ones that abused, and abandoned these kids to the evil claws of the system. Hetero parents are all too mentally-sound for that shit.
lulz666f 1 year ago
@LTheDetective3 being gay is bad because its pleasurable? thats what your argument is? really?
errskin 1 year ago
@LTheDetective3 whats your opinion on what should happen to gay people then randon question lol
7171josh 1 year ago
So wait - useless acts that are only for pleasure indicate a defect? So, since my legs are designed for walking, I should not be inline skating, because I was never supposed to have wheels under my feet? I'm signing up for therapy NOW!
By the way, I'm pretty confident that therapy will work on my skating problem, because skating was actually a personal choice.
jazzfyzix 1 year ago
@LTheDetective3 "sex is supposed to be specifically for reproduction" "there is no way anything can occur during gay sex except for pleasure" - so doing something for pleasure is somehow wrong? sex should only be done in attempt to reproduce? why?
errskin 1 year ago
GREAT VIDEO PA.
soymiguelalejandro23 2 years ago
well you might be on to something i know someone who was molested by 2 women when he was younger one was sadly a family member and the other a girl in a woman's shelter. this man today can't stand to touch a woman due to this. he has many woman friends but when asked to touch a woman's breast he gets so nervous ...it is kind of like when im asked to touch another person of the same sex, is how he explained it.
Tikada22 2 years ago
omg u reallii touched me with this video ... n i find everything that u said to b so tru ... to me i think if god is our creater n he mad us n he loves us then y shud ppl look down on us homosexuals u kno he loves ppl for them n just cuz a person is gay doesnt mean it cancels out everything good they have done in there life tyme .. i just find it reallii messed up... thank u so much for speakiin out for us with such intelligence .. by the way my name is angie n imma subscribe to u rii now thanks
ladii1026 2 years ago
@ladii1026 Yes, God does love His ppl... But, like I said earlier... He Detests homosexuality... He Loves the person, but hates the Sin...
DAPOOKSTER09 1 year ago
Truth is love, God is Truth!
PoliticalFunk007 2 years ago
@PoliticalFunk007 if god was truth then repitition would be unnecessary.
errskin 2 years ago
you are so cute, and very smart, hard to find these days.
bariatasudan 2 years ago
From a biological standpoint homosexuality would make a lot of sense, its necessary in society. Take this perspective, its population regulation. I myself is heterosexual, I personally don't agree with homosexuality or bisexuality but the reason is due to those whom aren't open abt it which cause a whole lot of confusion and pain. You know one bad apple would spoil a bunch. Not to say thats for all cases, I just know that it is understandable from a biological pov.
geebaby1080 2 years ago
We are talking about 66 books written by different authors but consistently touching on the same themes. Not to mention the apocrypha..books written that are not in the cannonized Bible but nonetheless supports what the Bible says. The dead sea scrolls are a prime example. To deny the Bible is like denying textbooks on American History. And we are talking about a Bible that contains moral precepts needed in a country where the poor are taken advantaged of, there is greed, racism and hate.etc
jamel11234 2 years ago 2
SAY. THAT.
clasiqsoul 2 years ago
@jamel11234 why do you think its so hard to find different short books that have the same theme? the bible was put together by people, they gathered a bunch of writings together and voted on the ones to put in the bible. this isn't supernatural, its called editing.
errskin 2 years ago
Other than the Bible can you find different short books that is consistent about the main character (God)?, his or her character, how he or she deals with people, etc....umm I would say its very hard...find me the writings of 20-25 of this worlds best authors, put their writings together and see if the theme is consistent..you know more people would believe if they just researched this stuff and used a little common sense, but know we would rather believe that life just came out of no where.sure
jamel11234 2 years ago
@jamel11234 you think that its so hard to find writings from different people that have a vaguley similar theme that if one does so then its supernatural? really?
errskin 2 years ago
Well if you think that "vaguely" is the appropriate word then you have not read the Bible from Gen to Rev. I would use a more concrete term than vaguely-- your comments are a bit misinformed
jamel11234 2 years ago
i have read the bible, you haven't thought about it. why would it be hard to take writings from different people and edit them together in a book? why would it be supernatural? what is this claim that its so hard to put together a book about god that if someone did it then its some supernatural book? especially when we know how the book was put together?!!
errskin 2 years ago
how was the book put together? You tell me?
jamel11234 2 years ago
@jamel11234 explaining how the bible was put together is a vast complex topic and is beyond the scope of this conversation, you obviously have no idea how it was put together and you seem to think it happened by magic. look it up.
errskin 2 years ago
I wasnt asking because I do not know I was asking so that I can hear your misguided view. Why would I take the word of a cynic who obviously has not studied it and approaches the subject with a preconcieved bias. So beyond the scope of this conversation?? Right..just say you do not know what in the world you are talking about because even though its extensive you should be able to explain it in a few sentences-- try again! I have already looked it up...the books are right here in my study.
jamel11234 2 years ago
@jamel11234 the bible was put together by people, the books were selected. why would it be so hard to find writings that sort of fit together? especially on such a topic? not only would it be possible, it would be rather easy. so this whole idea that it must have been magic because it was so hard to find these books is laughably stupid. any idiot can edit together other peoples writings to make them loosely fit. its not magic.
errskin 2 years ago
So basically all you have to go on is speculation, assumption and your personal opinion...you are obviously making an argument from ignorance-- not very convincing
jamel11234 2 years ago
its not speculation, the bible was put together by people, it was called the canon.
errskin 2 years ago
@errskin only one thing... The Bible WAS and IS God-breathed... God inspired all of the disciples and other people HE chose to use so that it would be written... Yes, they did vote on which books to put in the Bible... but they were used by God to put together the Bible...
DAPOOKSTER09 1 year ago
God? what about Harry Potter or Gandalf? Why stick to one fictional character. If you are really stupid enough to believe in God, then you're a fucking disgrace. It was acceptable in the middle ages, but in this day and age, you people are an insult to humanity.
Christianity made the medieval period a barbaric time. Jews being burned alive, Muslim lands being invaded. All in the name of a stupid little myth, and a disgusting book - the Bible.
You don't have beliefs, you have delusions.
moodini99 1 year ago
God and christianity has been around for ages and all of sudden its going to be faux pa? Well maybe in America and american culture-- where we are glad to move towards being a godless immoral nation. Furthermore there are historians from Jesus day that attests to his existance, firthermore archeological discoveries support the Bible as an authentic book of actual historical events. The Bible has been derived from manuscripts themselves written by actual people that existed
jamel11234 2 years ago 2
YOU ARE SOOOO SEXY!!!
Vaan362 2 years ago
Just like we have a choice on rather we want to exept Jesus as our savior or not we have a choice on rather we want to live a homosexual life or not, and I feel that Noone is born gay but we have a choice on rather we want to be that way or not.
pgdrz41 2 years ago
Well you're wrong, you fucking mong. Sexuality IS NOT a choice, it is genetic. That is a proven fact.
Christians don't choose to follow Jesus, they are brainwashed as children. Teaching a kid the bible is worse than paedophilia, both are vile and evil!
Fuck off back to the middle ages. Your medieval thoughts aren't welcome in this day and age.
moodini99 2 years ago
whatever you say..What you are saying doesnt bother me one bit because what your saying is nothing new under the sun because people constantly denyed jesus and the truth back in the bible days. just remember what you just said when you find out that god is real...Because if it wasnt for him you wouldnt be breathing right now...GOD BLESS YOU!!!
pgdrz41 2 years ago
Don't 'God bless me'. If God was real, I'm sure that he would be capable of blessing me himself, you self righteous moron. Jesus never existed, only children and deluded idiots believe otherwise. Christianity is dying out, thank God!
You medieval freaks won't be around for long. I don't mean that you are going to die or anything. I just mean that religion is rapidly becoming a shameful practice. Soon it will be something of a faux pa to believe in God.
Peace to you, but not to your vile religion
moodini99 2 years ago
See you just contradicted yourself.. In your paragraph you wrote you said "Thank God" if you did not believe in god you wouldn't have said that phrase..The bible says only a fool will say in his heart that there is no God.
pgdrz41 2 years ago
'Thank God' was a sarcastic joke. Sorry if you don't understand sarcasm, it's quite common in the U.K. Why mention the Bible? I'm not a Christian, remember? If something is written in the bible, it's probably wise to do the opposite.
moodini99 2 years ago
i'm so sorry to say that christianity is not a religion it's a relationship with christ it's not a religion second if jesus how did thousands of people seen him? just saying and the antichrist it's on his way as a matter of fact you might be on of his followers.his followers want you to belive there's no christ
TheStrawbeery 2 years ago
No, it is a religion. It is a set of beliefs and traditions, based on the adventures of a self righteous egotist in a fictional book.
There is no Anti-Christ, no Leprechauns, no pixies and no Jesus. Christianity is disgusting, evil and a massive insult to human dignity. The sooner it's gone, the better.
moodini99 2 years ago 2
sorry you need to read more christianty is not or never will be a a religion did you ever study the roots of christianty i bet you haven't first lie the devil ever told he never excisted. and soon as the christians gone the antichrist has to get rid of the christians to do his work i promise you america is going to hell in a handbasket
TheStrawbeery 2 years ago
You're the one who believes in the devil, not me. If the devil was real, I'd rather follow him than Jesus. Christianity is the evil one, not some mythological beast. Christianity is the one that caused so many Jews and Pagans to be burned at the stake. Christianity is scum. Christianity is the one that fuels hateful ideologies such as homophobia.
moodini99 2 years ago
i figured you didn't study the roots of christianty because if you did christians was tortured burned alive just for beliving in christ christians was mistreated more than any other group in the world that's a fact. but you did answered my question though
TheStrawbeery 2 years ago
So what if Christians were burned alive, they did the very same thing to thousands of Jews and other people. It is you that doesn't know the roots of Christianity. You haven't even mastered the basics of English grammar, it's no wonder you're stupid enough to believe in such primitive nonsense.
moodini99 2 years ago
@moodini99 hmmm... appropriate name for your comments... anyways... you are right in one aspect and in one aspect only... that Christians don't choose to follow Jesus... They are CHOSEN BY GOD HIMSELF... and as for the 'teaching of the Bible being worse than paedophilia' (however you spell it....), that is one of the Best things anyone can do... and more importantly nowadays... where morals have been Thrown out the windows...
DAPOOKSTER09 1 year ago
@DAPOOKSTER09 I apologize for saying that... it was not right for me to say that... Please forgive me.
DAPOOKSTER09 1 year ago
God? what about Harry Potter or Gandalf? Why stick to one fictional character. If you are really stupid enough to believe in God, then you're a fucking disgrace. It was acceptable in the middle ages, but in this day and age, you people are an insult to humanity.
Christianity made the medieval period a barbaric time. Jews being burned alive, Muslim lands being invaded. All in the name of a stupid little myth, and a disgusting book - the Bible.
You don't have beliefs, you have delusions.
moodini99 1 year ago
@pgdrz41 yes, but it is not the RIGHT choice...
DAPOOKSTER09 1 year ago
is he gay??
TheZbs 2 years ago
It seems to be a typical American sensitivity whether homosexuality is a choice or not, apparently because of the predisposition that gay behaviour is somehow wrong. There is no basis for that assumption at all, nobody gets hurt by same-gender sex, so who cares if it's a choice or not.
montallio 2 years ago
God is the creator of all things!.. and if God does not approve of Homosexuality then that lets you know something had to happen! for them to go that way. anything against the will and purpose of God, then its not of God, and you have to pray that those type of people get delivered...on the Spiritual Side.
terrencetdc 2 years ago
Unfounded assertion.
Tavereen 2 years ago
Homosexuality is definately a choice. Being hetrosexual is also a choice.
I want my own children (not adopted) so I have to be in a hetro relationship.
Religious beliefs, Upbringing, peer pressure, and other influences plays a part to this choice.
However, I can choose right now to be gay .. I dont want to, It doesnt mean I was born 'straight.' honestly, i was born not giving a crap about my sexual orientation, all this develops as you grow older ... IT IS A CHOICE
1tymthing 2 years ago
What part of "we don't know the underlying cause of homosexuality" do you not understand? If we don't know what causes homosexuality then how can we possibly tell whether it's a choice or not? Yes, acting on homosexual urges is a choice, but we can't say that the homosexual desires are a choice. Right now the strongest evidence points to homosexuality being a polygenic trait.
Tavereen 2 years ago
So this is to Tavereen... I disagree with everything you said.. everyone has their own opioion about everything. I have always been attracted to men and have tried being with a woman and its not me.. im not happy.. everything goes wrong, i dont even know how to speak to a woman.. with a man i can go hey lets &(&* but with a woman you cant really say that.. so yea i believe i was born this way, god created me... he gave me will power but he still created me. IM happy that im gay. post some FACTS
durdenpb 2 years ago
Last I checked I never once stated that homosexuality was a choice, in fact evidence indicates that it's not. We don't know whether it's a polygenic trait or whether it's a result of upbringing, or whether it's akin to a birth defect. Personally I favor the polygenic trait hypothesis but at this point we don't know what the underlying cause of homosexual behavior is.
Tavereen 2 years ago
ITS NOT A CHOICE.. and being brought up has nothign to do with it either.. and why do you keep sayin "we" are you refering to straight people or what? who is we. or let me guess your playin Dr. phil right?
durdenpb 2 years ago
The we I am referring to is all of humanity, although more specifically the scientific community.
And have you even read my posts? I specifically said that the evidence indicates that homosexuality is NOT a choice, but we don't know for sure yet. I offered the idea that one's upbringing could be a contributing factor because it IS a possibility, whether you'd like to think so or not. Like I said, I prefer the polygenic trait hypothesis.
Tavereen 2 years ago
love your videos you talk real, a real brotha xx rated 5 star
brightcake101 2 years ago
ppl can be gay if they want 2...God just doesn't like it & if there is no repentance from the sin b4 u die..u won't enter the kingdom of heaven...just like anyone PRACTICING any other sin that God abhors. Simple.
VICTOYA 2 years ago
A simple, and false, statement from an apparently simple person.
Tavereen 2 years ago
ur opinion or disbelief/rebellion against the TRUTH doesn't change it from being true.
AGAPE!
VICTOYA 2 years ago
You obviously haven't studied this topic in detail, or you've been studying biased and inaccurate material. You clearly don't have a clue as to the possible causes of homosexual behavior.
All of the research shows that it is not a choice. Besides, you've made the unsupported assumption that a god or gods exist.
Tavereen 2 years ago