Precious means able to give life in my opinion. Therefore I want something that can feed animals and plants, and that does not corrode and can build impressive infrastructure/aerospace products... Molybdenum, check out my vids.
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Having researched silver over the past three years it's quite clearly an excellent longterm investment & is essential for future wealth. Buy some now, it's still as cheap as chips!
love the video, very informative. However! You are a little misinformed or underinformed about Numismatic coins! Bullion is awesome but if you want to know something more on Numismatics I would love to tell you!
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Great advice man, I read lots of books this year and you are spot on! I could have just watched you and skipped the books. I'm investing in silver, all physical, go to SilverOverGold com if you have any interest in acquiring silver under spot price!
yes dont buy numismatic coins just for the metal, u can invest in rare coins but that has got nothing to do with the metal its made of, and in MOST cases investing in stamps and coins is a longterm investment and buy only the precious ones, the ones that will hold the price, coz stamp and coincollectors generations dies out and we get fewer and fewer but the sellers say the opposite
, so all the regular stuff loses value and i have seen it for the last 20 years. good video
I know gold keeps its value because of the use as wealth and status display, but I'm uncertain about the future of that use. I can't think of many other uses for gold right now and I'm wondering what would be a metal to invest in that's actually going to have and likely keep a use.
A prime choice for silver bullion coins with extra collector value! The Third Reich produced millions of 90% silver coins. Each Nazi 5 Reichsmark coin weighed 13.88 g and contained exactly 12.5 g of fine silver. Almost half an ounze of silver in each coin. These coins are still readily available today! And besides their inherant value as silver bullion, they are also genuine Third Reich collectables thus adding to their value!
The Third Reich produced millions of 90% silver bullion coins. Each Nazi 5 Reichsmark coin weighed 13.88 g and contained exactly 12.5 g of fine silver. Almost half an ounze of silver in each coin. These coins are still readily available today! And besides their inherant value as silver bullion, they are also genuine Third Reich collectables thus adding to their value!
agree...etfs are very strange. If you purchase the etf at the price, then do they automatically buy more bullion? Because the price is reflective of the spot price, not their own supply.
Good information. Thanks. I would also recommend listening to Robby Noel on Republic Broadcasting Network. He's very informative on many of these topics.
You can buy numismatic coins on eBay. Buy coins graded by NGC or PCGS from those with high positive feedback. Check the price guides at the PCGS website (pay much less than what they say) and only buy coins that are being auctioned. I figure the guy I beat out was willing to buy the coin for a few bucks less than what I paid for it so the price should be good.
There was an attempt at this in the 90's. The plan was a floating island/country in the carribean. Powers that be shot it down. We are slaves...realize it.
Currently..March 16,09 there is a shortage of Gold coins available. Prices for just bullion are above the current $923 per OZ. unless of course your gonna buy 100 oz. lots. High quality 'rare' gold coins command much higher premiums and for these days you either get what you want or you hold on! Quality should not overshadow a persons desparation with these type issues. People are hoarding GOLD I hate to mention it..
You make these huge assumptions that mining companies are way too risky and 'you'll get stuck holding the bag'?
Tell that to the THOUSANDS perhaps MILLIONS of mining company shareholders as well as the MILLIONS upon MILLIONS of shares traded daily of same in the exchanges.
If your thinking set it and forget it then miners are no place for you..dude you don't really know much about metals mining and traders/shareholders.Low risk=low profits;High risk=high or higher profits..etc.etc.
Alot of junior and sub junior miners are somewhat risky but to say they are going under any day is just ludacrious. I invest in numismatic coins in just a few types: Morgan silver dollars and some Gold coins..you wouldn't want to SELL them to a dealer in desparation of course, you'll be better off selling them on your own. No you don't need to be an 'expert' as he says but you do need some grading knowledge..but it s easy to get ripped off when selling if your not careful. Buy RARE high qualty
Excellent advise my friend! Thank you! Invest in physical bullion, it's not possible for Gold and Silver ETFs to possess what their numbers say they do. I sold all of my ETFs when I figured that one out.
Try the airport in Dubai you can buy bullion 24 ct gold either Credt Swisse or EK from 5 grammes to 1 kilo a bit expensive at the moment and in my view will get even more so over the coming months.
If anything happens in 2012, it will be because of the H.A.A.R.P. This device can cause earthquakes, hurricanes, tornadoes, cyclones and many other disasters. Katrina was man made, the cyclone in burma was man made, the tsunami was man made and even the earthquake in china (may 2008). The government is trying to kill us off as part of their NEW WORLD ORDER! We must all unite against the zionists and kill them first! Fight the power and keep democracy alive
Absolutely! If you are making a big purchase you shouldn't have to pay the same markup as one or two bullion coins. Like anything else you get better at haggling the transaction the more times you try it.
Brokers do perform a service by making searching easier and faster - Google is basically a broker. As for investing, precious metals will only preserve purchasing power - they won't make you rich. If gold goes to $10/oz, I promise you food & energy will also make similar rises. As for which precious metals, I suggest the reliables gold & silver. Bullion Direct is a good broker too.
In regards to the mining stocks, I disagree and especially if they produce precious metals. These companies are far riskier, but in an inflationary environment they will do more than just preserve your value, but represent wealth which is production. Of course, in extreme circumstances nothing beats taking actual delivery and using some means of defending yourself.
Love your Videos..BUT..the Perth Mint house of card now seems to be falling down all around us.
I have been reading (from Several sources) that they are just another group of people selling more tickets to the big Silver show than they have seats for.
Same old story, eveybody has a ticket they want to sell the public.
IMHO you much better off to just buy PHYSICAL SILVER and if need be dig a hole in the back yard....at least you KNOW You have it.
For bullion coins you can buy at any large coin dealer in the yellow pages. For bullion bars the dealer I mentioned was A-Mark precious metals in Los Angeles. I think they have a web page, but just look up the large bullion distributor in your area who sells to jewelry mfrs.
I think buying Precious Metals Mutual Funds is a good idea. Those investments are usually spread out between various mining companies and types of metals. If it was really risky, where the companies go bankrupt, firms like Vanguard wouldn't be offering it as a fund.
I buy silver rounds and bars from APMEX. They've doubled in value in a relatively short time. Sorry, but I disagree that that is a bad way to buy them. All one has to do is look for the spot price to know what to pay or sell them for.
PLEASE HELP! Please give us your advise on this...our daughter is 2 and we have over 5k saved in a mutual fund (FAIRX). Now do you think it would be wise to take that out and buy silver or platinum? Or both? This is for her college fund so I don't want the money at too much of a risk, yet I want it to grow!
We have been buying some silver coins as it has continuted to increase but unsure on what we should do with our daughters money. Please LORAX2013 help with any advise.
Take the 5 grand and buy an acre of land outside a Chinese city. Buy the time she's 18 she'll be able to buy the university you want her to go to. Use your head!!
If you recommend buying bullion bars direct and not secondhand; wouldn't you have real problems selling them on? Coins have got to better in this regard.
You can resell to the original broker often without an assay fee. Also you can sell to end users who will be melting down the bars before they pay you.
I know - I usually make these when I'm already tired. Otherwise I'd be out doing something. It may not be pretty to watch, but hopefully you can learn more from me than an attractive newscaster.
I disagree with your opinion that buying coins is a bad idea. Buying, say, kuggerands, is an excellent way to buy gold. Kuggerands came from S. Africa in the apartheid era so are shunned by collectors, they are exactly 1 ounce of gold, and they cost basically the same amount as 1 ounce of gold does.
So then, when they say that the face value of the American Eagle Gold Proof Coin is $50, but worth $600; does that mean you can buy it at $50 and resell it at $600?
Are you aware of iran selling petrol in euro and not US dollars ? and how thats going to hammer the US dollar, hence the reason to buy gold and silver.
What about short selling mining stocks (or any company) as an inverse function of the percentage held by top managment?
dchamberss 1 month ago
Precious means able to give life in my opinion. Therefore I want something that can feed animals and plants, and that does not corrode and can build impressive infrastructure/aerospace products... Molybdenum, check out my vids.
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foster2367 8 months ago
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berriganjer 8 months ago
Having researched silver over the past three years it's quite clearly an excellent longterm investment & is essential for future wealth. Buy some now, it's still as cheap as chips!
09SRILANKA 11 months ago
love the video, very informative. However! You are a little misinformed or underinformed about Numismatic coins! Bullion is awesome but if you want to know something more on Numismatics I would love to tell you!
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grunge65432 1 year ago
Buy silver, cheaper to buy and it's performing better than gold on a % basis.
09SRILANKA 1 year ago
hi is apmex a good place to buy silver and gold bars
madiovich 1 year ago
Great vid.
TruthOverFacts 1 year ago
Quality info'. Good on you.
P.S. You sound more Canadian than Californian??!! : )
Physical wins in the long run, etf's only win for the short term
(ie; money in money out trades)
ShillBasher 1 year ago
Would you recommend ETF in 2010? About the Perth mint do you trust the Australian government to buy the certificates ? Very informative video
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whosjamesburton 1 year ago
Great advice man, I read lots of books this year and you are spot on! I could have just watched you and skipped the books. I'm investing in silver, all physical, go to SilverOverGold com if you have any interest in acquiring silver under spot price!
MrSilverovergold 1 year ago
yes dont buy numismatic coins just for the metal, u can invest in rare coins but that has got nothing to do with the metal its made of, and in MOST cases investing in stamps and coins is a longterm investment and buy only the precious ones, the ones that will hold the price, coz stamp and coincollectors generations dies out and we get fewer and fewer but the sellers say the opposite
, so all the regular stuff loses value and i have seen it for the last 20 years. good video
d7gh2u99wd 1 year ago
Ok, this video is better.
macwalen 1 year ago
I know gold keeps its value because of the use as wealth and status display, but I'm uncertain about the future of that use. I can't think of many other uses for gold right now and I'm wondering what would be a metal to invest in that's actually going to have and likely keep a use.
namitsu1 1 year ago
Any experiences with bullionvault or goldmoney?
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A prime choice for silver bullion coins with extra collector value! The Third Reich produced millions of 90% silver coins. Each Nazi 5 Reichsmark coin weighed 13.88 g and contained exactly 12.5 g of fine silver. Almost half an ounze of silver in each coin. These coins are still readily available today! And besides their inherant value as silver bullion, they are also genuine Third Reich collectables thus adding to their value!
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The Third Reich produced millions of 90% silver bullion coins. Each Nazi 5 Reichsmark coin weighed 13.88 g and contained exactly 12.5 g of fine silver. Almost half an ounze of silver in each coin. These coins are still readily available today! And besides their inherant value as silver bullion, they are also genuine Third Reich collectables thus adding to their value!
Heidelager 1 year ago
agree...etfs are very strange. If you purchase the etf at the price, then do they automatically buy more bullion? Because the price is reflective of the spot price, not their own supply.
dak9779 2 years ago
Good information. Thanks. I would also recommend listening to Robby Noel on Republic Broadcasting Network. He's very informative on many of these topics.
40ny 2 years ago
what's a bullen bar? (i may spelled that wrong
Feedfront 2 years ago
its physical bar of a metal with a grade of quality.
creedgaming 2 years ago
@Feedfront
I think you mean 'bullion bar'. It's like a bar of gold or silver.
donnybaker 2 years ago
You can buy numismatic coins on eBay. Buy coins graded by NGC or PCGS from those with high positive feedback. Check the price guides at the PCGS website (pay much less than what they say) and only buy coins that are being auctioned. I figure the guy I beat out was willing to buy the coin for a few bucks less than what I paid for it so the price should be good.
billp4 2 years ago
Looks like that guy in the whoopi Goldberg, demi Moore movie "Ghost"
buzzz1213 2 years ago
Get your head out of your butt.
jimjohngirard 2 years ago
$50,000aud?
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SadeTabitha 2 years ago
Do you pay lower commission on gold bullion bars or for certificates at the perth mint?
Chrisnoscrub047 2 years ago
Precious metals futures contracts?
NO NO NO.
You will lose in that shark pool.
Accept NO paper substitutes nor intermediaries between you and your metal.
Physical gold/silver are good and ethical.
Unredeemable paper money is NOT.
Jyoyo1 2 years ago
what if i got into a time machine and went back to 1934 when they still had gold and silver certificates?
hackerhater 2 years ago
good stuff, keep it up
khalilbr 2 years ago
About the only way you can really attain real freedom is to go an start your own country and constitution.
garydonpowell 2 years ago
There was an attempt at this in the 90's. The plan was a floating island/country in the carribean. Powers that be shot it down. We are slaves...realize it.
rlzzxx 2 years ago
You are high. Realize it.
TheBadass1000 2 years ago 4
THE worst way to hold gold is holding it in the US, canada or mexico.
Mongodelight 2 years ago
Why
ryanertime 2 years ago
Currently..March 16,09 there is a shortage of Gold coins available. Prices for just bullion are above the current $923 per OZ. unless of course your gonna buy 100 oz. lots. High quality 'rare' gold coins command much higher premiums and for these days you either get what you want or you hold on! Quality should not overshadow a persons desparation with these type issues. People are hoarding GOLD I hate to mention it..
dontswin 2 years ago
You make these huge assumptions that mining companies are way too risky and 'you'll get stuck holding the bag'?
Tell that to the THOUSANDS perhaps MILLIONS of mining company shareholders as well as the MILLIONS upon MILLIONS of shares traded daily of same in the exchanges.
If your thinking set it and forget it then miners are no place for you..dude you don't really know much about metals mining and traders/shareholders.Low risk=low profits;High risk=high or higher profits..etc.etc.
dontswin 2 years ago
Alot of junior and sub junior miners are somewhat risky but to say they are going under any day is just ludacrious. I invest in numismatic coins in just a few types: Morgan silver dollars and some Gold coins..you wouldn't want to SELL them to a dealer in desparation of course, you'll be better off selling them on your own. No you don't need to be an 'expert' as he says but you do need some grading knowledge..but it s easy to get ripped off when selling if your not careful. Buy RARE high qualty
dontswin 2 years ago
do you trust or use the perth mint certificate program? it's goverment backed but do you still trust it?
ancientsong 2 years ago
Excellent advise my friend! Thank you! Invest in physical bullion, it's not possible for Gold and Silver ETFs to possess what their numbers say they do. I sold all of my ETFs when I figured that one out.
teewillis1981 2 years ago
Try the airport in Dubai you can buy bullion 24 ct gold either Credt Swisse or EK from 5 grammes to 1 kilo a bit expensive at the moment and in my view will get even more so over the coming months.
thaitanium12 2 years ago
Thanks for all of that comprehensive informaton.
You're a godsend!
Verdenfell 3 years ago
Euro Pacific Capital - You only need min $10K for Gold thru Perth Mint
vinny1010 3 years ago
NICE!! Because PETER SCHIFF is one of those brokers who deal with Perth Mint ... heard great things :)
vinny1010 3 years ago
THE GOVERMENTS = PIRACY
Ganbareg 3 years ago
how would one best convert their money in their IRA( various mutual funds), to precious metals?
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If anything happens in 2012, it will be because of the H.A.A.R.P. This device can cause earthquakes, hurricanes, tornadoes, cyclones and many other disasters. Katrina was man made, the cyclone in burma was man made, the tsunami was man made and even the earthquake in china (may 2008). The government is trying to kill us off as part of their NEW WORLD ORDER! We must all unite against the zionists and kill them first! Fight the power and keep democracy alive
pidos847 3 years ago
I'm wondering, but do you think it is kosher to haggle the percentage of the markup of the spot price of a precious metal?
eurohim 3 years ago
Absolutely! If you are making a big purchase you shouldn't have to pay the same markup as one or two bullion coins. Like anything else you get better at haggling the transaction the more times you try it.
lorax2013 3 years ago
@lorax2013 Don't forget about 90% pre 64 junk silver coins.
Thoeswerethedays 1 year ago
@eurohim what kind of schooling have you takein?
8582971 1 year ago
$300 billion, anyone?
moniequa 3 years ago
Brokers do perform a service by making searching easier and faster - Google is basically a broker. As for investing, precious metals will only preserve purchasing power - they won't make you rich. If gold goes to $10/oz, I promise you food & energy will also make similar rises. As for which precious metals, I suggest the reliables gold & silver. Bullion Direct is a good broker too.
siggyboss 3 years ago
HI I want to ask when u do buy silver or gold as an investment.. how do u cash them out for money later?
blai745 3 years ago
You just resell it to the seller.
moniequa 3 years ago
In regards to the mining stocks, I disagree and especially if they produce precious metals. These companies are far riskier, but in an inflationary environment they will do more than just preserve your value, but represent wealth which is production. Of course, in extreme circumstances nothing beats taking actual delivery and using some means of defending yourself.
siggyboss 3 years ago
Love your Videos..BUT..the Perth Mint house of card now seems to be falling down all around us.
I have been reading (from Several sources) that they are just another group of people selling more tickets to the big Silver show than they have seats for.
Same old story, eveybody has a ticket they want to sell the public.
IMHO you much better off to just buy PHYSICAL SILVER and if need be dig a hole in the back yard....at least you KNOW You have it.
Its a planet of Pirates out there
Ooloosoon 3 years ago
I can just imagine having a room full of gold bars. hah
eurohim 3 years ago
Seems doubtful that gold will ever be as valuable in buying power as it was in 1980.
Gold does not always retain its buying power over 20 year periods.
There has been a massive trend in selling off gold by central banks over the last twenty years.
Teller3448 3 years ago
So are you saying we should hold on to our paper money?
moniequa 3 years ago
You do not understand money. Money is a store of value and should not go down in value. Dollars go down in value, currently at 12% annually.
Google "Money as Debt"
davincij15 3 years ago
Hey please check out "money masters", "money as debt" let me know what you think, this is very important!!!!!!!
DividedLove 3 years ago
lorax2013 where is the website to buy gold at so i wont buy 2nd hand stuff
MentalReserve 3 years ago
For bullion coins you can buy at any large coin dealer in the yellow pages. For bullion bars the dealer I mentioned was A-Mark precious metals in Los Angeles. I think they have a web page, but just look up the large bullion distributor in your area who sells to jewelry mfrs.
lorax2013 3 years ago
I think buying Precious Metals Mutual Funds is a good idea. Those investments are usually spread out between various mining companies and types of metals. If it was really risky, where the companies go bankrupt, firms like Vanguard wouldn't be offering it as a fund.
flapjack9999 3 years ago
I buy silver rounds and bars from APMEX. They've doubled in value in a relatively short time. Sorry, but I disagree that that is a bad way to buy them. All one has to do is look for the spot price to know what to pay or sell them for.
siszam 3 years ago
are u rich?
evanrmrz1 4 years ago
PLEASE HELP! Please give us your advise on this...our daughter is 2 and we have over 5k saved in a mutual fund (FAIRX). Now do you think it would be wise to take that out and buy silver or platinum? Or both? This is for her college fund so I don't want the money at too much of a risk, yet I want it to grow!
We have been buying some silver coins as it has continuted to increase but unsure on what we should do with our daughters money. Please LORAX2013 help with any advise.
Thanks!
SilverWealth23 4 years ago
Don't think of silver and gold as investments, consider them insurance against an event that would make the dollar worthless.
fuzzywzhe 3 years ago
Take the 5 grand and buy an acre of land outside a Chinese city. Buy the time she's 18 she'll be able to buy the university you want her to go to. Use your head!!
jackiebaron 3 years ago
PLEASE. land over there is just as much, if not more expensive than it is in the U.S.
Brandonly23 3 years ago
can't own land in china, that was a studip comment. Sorry.
shanghainews 3 years ago
China will sell land to you and take it back and you'll lose 5 grand.
moniequa 3 years ago 11
Do you still think that silver is a wise investment given the recent run up in value now at $14.oo Oz
FatBastardPi 4 years ago
Silver is now $20.31 3-3-08
I hope you got in!!!
blacksole7 3 years ago 2
YES I DID VERY NICE INVESTMENT
FatBastardPi 3 years ago 2
If you would had invested in AlCOA you would have made 60% on your money. 08 will be another 40%. How precious it is. Ha Ha
NSV102A 4 years ago
Great advice, thanks!
m0fin0 4 years ago
If you recommend buying bullion bars direct and not secondhand; wouldn't you have real problems selling them on? Coins have got to better in this regard.
oilout 4 years ago
You can resell to the original broker often without an assay fee. Also you can sell to end users who will be melting down the bars before they pay you.
lorax2013 4 years ago
you look stoned in all your videos
RichieSmooth 4 years ago
I know - I usually make these when I'm already tired. Otherwise I'd be out doing something. It may not be pretty to watch, but hopefully you can learn more from me than an attractive newscaster.
lorax2013 4 years ago 2
lol,crooks!
neilzep 4 years ago
I disagree with your opinion that buying coins is a bad idea. Buying, say, kuggerands, is an excellent way to buy gold. Kuggerands came from S. Africa in the apartheid era so are shunned by collectors, they are exactly 1 ounce of gold, and they cost basically the same amount as 1 ounce of gold does.
fuzzywzhe 4 years ago
Right, these are bullion coins and are a good idea. Numismatic coins are the rare collector coins with a big markup.
lorax2013 4 years ago
It's spelled Krugerrand.
underaserpentsun 3 years ago
> It's spelled Krugerrand.
Whatever, and who cares?
I prefer owning St. Gauden's myself but they are hard to get. I buy the S. African junk and trade them up to St. Gaudens.
fuzzywzhe 3 years ago
I corrected you so that any interested persons new to the bullion market would have the correct spelling. That is all.
underaserpentsun 3 years ago 3
You are a great teacher on many subjects. Thank you for your work...J.O...peace...
JohnnyOhio 4 years ago 2
fiat money is a smooth form of slavery.
fiat money (paper promises)keeps on loosing value
shirinchaudhry 4 years ago 3
This statement is very true!! I agee :D and I love this statement specially when my family and friends talk abt money
princemohsin 4 years ago
So then, when they say that the face value of the American Eagle Gold Proof Coin is $50, but worth $600; does that mean you can buy it at $50 and resell it at $600?
socialist78 4 years ago
Great work
for a validation of this truth.
mind-trek
laryon 4 years ago
What do you think of alternate currencies such as the Liberty dollar?
HelplessMammal 4 years ago
I would also recommend "junk silver" to get the best "bang for your buck". that is, pre-1965 90%-silver coins.
AlphaMan614 4 years ago
Good point - that one slipped my mind since it has been 15 yrs since I did it, but yes, for low volume silver that's probably the best way to go.
lorax2013 4 years ago
Are you aware of iran selling petrol in euro and not US dollars ? and how thats going to hammer the US dollar, hence the reason to buy gold and silver.
mrchekky 4 years ago
Yes, it's an interesting topic and it'll be sad and fascinating to see how this finally develops.
lorax2013 4 years ago
How high do you think Gold and silver will go.
mrchekky 4 years ago
Since all currency eventually devalues to the cost of paper, a good guess would be 20 tons of dollars to an ounce of gold.
lorax2013 4 years ago
lorax you are totally awesome. I love your rationale.
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