Czerny - Piano Concerto in A minor Op.214 (1/5)

[largolegato]

many of his etudes sound really really great. Since then, I've been looking for other things he composed.

[luyingwan]

Wonderful piece! Definitely NOT boring and quite cheerful to listen to. Cherny wrote countless great finger-exercises and I never felt boring playing them.

[pidekaar]

quite boring

[VariationsOnNoTheme]

Nothing to say??!!! I beg to differ with that pronouncement! when you can composer, arrange and teach on the master level that was Czerny ok! Till then, one should hold their tongue of your empty banal thinking! Czerny was Beethoven's student, Liszt's teacher, and the connecting bridge from classical to romantic. If he had nothing to say, would Liszt's son Daniel have represent Liszt himself at Czerny's funeral in 1857 in Vienna. Hummel was influenced by this concerto. Listen! Compare!

[MuseDuCafe]

What a demonstration of all the syntax, vocabulary and grammar but with nothing to say. Makes those contemporaries whom we better remember seem that much greater by comparison. Just proves you can learn and manipulate all the technical part of the craft and not be an artist, by any definition. This does perfectly fit the definition of 'banal,' though. His second rate positioning in history is thoroughly confirmed here.

[MaestroTJS]

@MuseDuCafe Ouch! Scathing!

Personally I found it a bit more interesting before the piano enters--not exactly what you want in a piano concerto.

I've often enjoyed playing his studies, but it's disappointing when someone will tell me how much they like them yet say nothing about pieces written by far greater composers.

Czerny might be an example of a composer who got worse as time went on. I've heard two of his sonatas and I remember thinking the first was better than the later one.

[MuseDuCafe]

@MaestroTJS Every period is littered with 'artists' who learned the craft but whose imaginations were conventional and limited (Saliero, piano concerto in C minor). A concert pianist friend swears by Czerny for utility purposes, and rightly commented. "There is banal music which presents the performer the challenge of making it sound interesting." That is often enough a player's job! BUT - I really don't understand this recent digging up the lesser and more boring of 2nd and 3rd rate composers.

[MaestroTJS]

@MuseDuCafe True, it can be an interesting challenge.

I think the recent interest MIGHT be due to over-saturation by the big composers, at least for connoisseurs. But...considering how much of their music languishes unplayed, it might actually have more to do with the fact that the 2nd/3rd-rate music, simple and boring, is easier to understand for the lay person. Considering what passes as "classical music" on radio now, Beethoven's Hammerklavier sonata probably sounds like Bartok to them.

[VariationsOnNoTheme]

Greetings all! You can find a copy of this Czerny Konzert a-moll, op. 214 in the British Library. Proceed to their web-site and order there! British Library is always an EXCELLENT source of music from the early 19th c.!

[williamtj21]

@VariationsOnNoTheme It's not there, I tried looking for it. Would you mind giving me the link?

[williamtj21]

can someone please tell me where I can find the sheet music? They don't even sell the book... I have looked everywhere!!!

[cbinasoy]

@williamtj21 go to imslp.org they have a crap load of sheet music from all sorts of composers!

[moosatious]

To put it bluntly, this sounds like Mendelssohn on an off day. Or, maybe, a 19th century Telemann. Czerny was great for aspiring pianists, but not what a pianist would want to play for an audience of non-professional pianists

[williamtj21]

my first time listening to this rarely-played concerto, and honestly, i think it's better than Chopin or Liszt concertos. .. Just my opinion!!

[leoxThepianist]

i didn't think that he composed also piano concertos....and i have to say that are great...this in particular is for me one of the best piano concertos that i have heard...now i understand because he was Beethoven's Pupil!!!..:)

[gijondani]

Beethoven llegó a ser el más grande de todos superando el clasicismo y empezando el romanticismo con su obras, una música profunda y bella que a pesar de quedarse sordo, logró plasmar en la partitura todo su dolor y sentimiento.

Es el más grande por ello. Aquí veo un Czerny con influencia beethoveniana, y conincido en que es más que un compositor de estudios.

Gracias por enseñarme que Czerny es más de lo que pensaba.

[sousafan100]

another masterwork by the underrated czerny - it's tough being in beethoven's shadow along with ferdinand ries - music like this needs to be uncovered and performed more often - thanks zirianos!

[Azriel1066]

You can definately see the influence Beethoven had on him during Czerny's tenure as his student.

[pianistaziz]

genius

[LordTyrannus]

@fierydog

Czerny was Beethoven's Pupil and Beethoven always aspired to become Mozart's....enough said.

[tytocuto]

Wonderful:X:X Unbelievable...I never hear his concerto :))

[ClassicalOJazz]

Listen to the Great Master Czerny!

[newFranzFerencLiszt]

Powerful audio!!!!

[dzeljpiano]

I didn´t know that he composed piano concertos too : )

[zirianos]

@dzeljpiano. .Yeahhh, and symphonies, Operas, piano sonatas, quartets... He was a very versatile composer. and a grat pianist.

[gijondani]

@zirianos Of course that was a freat piano player because Beethoven was his master.

[gijondani]

@gijondani great*

[newFranzFerencLiszt]

@dzeljpiano He composed to much... it's quite impossible that there's not a piano concerto among his works ;)

[thegreatapologist]

@dzeljpiano You name it, he composed it. He wrote over 1000 opus numbers.

[AntauNiotosesva]

I wrote in Portuguese that the Concerto seemed to me to be spurious. By using the word «espúrio», I didn't want to say it was false, but only less «natural», more affected, than those of the same period. So, you can say as you have said to me: «Well, AntauNiotosesva, I'm not really sure, but the pianist (Blumenthal (Blumental)) dies in 1991, This is not false, it's just an old recording.», but, zirianos, you shoud not remove my words...

[zirianos]

Uhhh, I'm sorry. It was my mistake. Yesterday, I wanted to eliminate my answer and change it, because I wrote Dies instead of Died, but I pressed in the wrong place, and then I did not remember your user's name to send you a mail.

[AntauNiotosesva]

I can not see the words I wrote yesterday about this concerto. I received your answer, zirianos, and I want to thank you the Concerto, I never heard before. Nevertheless I still think it is not a masterpiece. Too many notes, for me... But I like Czerny very much, and so I thank you again for uploading the Concerto.

[thegreatapologist]

@AntauNiotosesva But doesn't the notey quality convey something about the piece? I like that quality about it. It sounds very brilliant.

[raulratob]

Gracias por subir éste video!! =) excelente piano-concerto.

además gran interpretación del pianista y orquesta.

[zirianos]

@raulratob. de nada. gracias por comentar.

[Tashmere]

Why have I never heard of him before? I wouldn't have heard of him still except I was looking up Felicja Blumanthal. Lucky me!