It kicked ass to see the Whitestars, Shadow Vessels AND Vorlon ships fighting together on the same side, the first time ever!
This of course would only happen on B5 if the Thirdspace aliens showed up during the Shadow War, THAT would have been interesting to see, the Army of Light (who controls the White Stars), the Vorlons AND the Shadows putting aside their differences to take down an enemy that threatened them all.
@Bronasaxon Beats me but I'm glad they did! Hearing the Shadow Vessels cries as they emerged with the Babylon 5 season 4 theme music playing made me think "Yeah! The Shadows are on the side of good now!". It's the equivalent of the Cardassians from DS9 switching sides and joining up with the Federation and its allies in the final battle of the Dominion War!
@Bronasaxon Also, I guess Species 8472 and the Dominion badmouthed Lorien (the first one) who BOTH the Vorlons AND the Shadows revere and listen to or worse yet, harmed him and now they're putting aside their differences to wipe out the guilty party. It's like if two brothers who fight all the time team up to go after someone who hurt their mother and/or father figure.
it seems to me B5 wasn't known for there awesome shields in fact the species they did meet with shields nearly wiped them out. Star Trek ships have truly awesome shields. They would have precious little to fear from B5 ships. The only thing that could save B5 ships from the torpedos would be the interceptor weapons and they wouldn't stop the beam weapons.
@woofdogmeow Hmmm... it depends. Vorlon and Shadow technologies were absolutely destructive.
Of course, it is hard to compare two fictional universes, but logic says that any of the first races would crush Star Trek ships as if they were made of paper, regardless of shields (normal Star Trek weapons quickly take care of Star Trek shields, so stronger weapons would probably bypass them with ease).
The older races in Star Trek are usually invincible, so Vorlons and Shadows would be such vs. ST.
1. Species 8472 are a telepathic race. They would have owned the shadows without difficulty.
2. ST-ships have shield-technology like the third-space aliens in B5 (the same aliens that even the vorlons feared). Even a vorlon cruiser would have needed a little more firepower than that to take out a Dominion war cruiser.
1. As appear to be allies, Vorlons would have most likely protected the Shadows with their telepathic capabilities.
2. Yes they have shield technology, but we have no ground on what the excat numbers are. You can say that early 21st century man has a bullet proof vest, but does that mean he can stand against futuristic 23rd century guns that use bullets (considering that in this scenario we would be still developing better version of metallic bullet weapons).
Definately cool but how come the Shadows, Vorlons, and Whitestars aare helping the Klingons defend Earth from the Draak and Dominion????? I thought that the Draak were servants of the Shadows
If you remember from B5, the First Ones left the Shadows and Vorlons to guide the younger races. Somewhere down the line they disagreed on order vs chaos but before that they worked together. But obviously the Whitestars and other ships did not exist during that time, lol. I think all B5 fans have wondered, at least once, about the Shadows working with the current generations. I would be awesome :)
dude this was like one of the freakin best ones ive freaken seen. i actually loved seeing the vorlons and shadows working together. plus its cool that them and the whitestars worked together against star trek and those guys i dont thin ive seen before. thousand fingers up
good vid, i might be a B5 fan but at least they won! i like the bit at: 0:44 when most of the diffrent species from B5 come through(i was a bit confused that shadows were with them) by the way does anyone know what episode that episode long space battle was on B5?
@zeratul126 no badass B5 ship is wat we mean though i hate the fact they only used bird of prey ships and not any larger klingon ships like there version of the the warbird
Ok, First off, We know B5 cant really battle any star trek stuff, Second, why would species 8472 team with dominion, and third, I believe that was the battle to reclaim DS9, Aka, Tourk nor.
To those of you who watched both shows you KNOW the species 8472 were just copies of bio-technology aliens from B5, same time that DS9 started with huge fleet stories and epic battles because B5 had pushed that envelope. Trek followed the trend B5 began.
I think I saw a single TIE fighter way in the back watching the battle. Its last transmission said JOIN ME AND OUR COLLECTION OF CGI PANTHEONS WILL BE COMPLETE!! LOVE DV. Wonder who it was.
On the subject of shear 'hardcore starship-porn' I'd love to see Ian M Banks's culture ships on screen - they're sentient and come complete with the best names ever like the Psychopath class Rapid Offensive Unit 'Frank Exchange of Views' from 'Excession' to name just one. I smile just thinking about them...
From what I understand of the Species 8472 ships there are so many similarities between their ships and the ships used by the Vorlons, I wonder if the writers of ST didn't use the Vorlons as inspiration for S8472.
I am sorry, but this video is technologically inacurrate. 2 8472 bioships would whpe everything out. You need Nanite torpedos to defeat them. B5 does not have the technology to initiate that action. However, the Dominion and Klingon vessels can.
Ok. You know who would kick all others asses in these battle scenes, but I have not seen hide nor tail of them in these vs. videos? You know the dinosaur people from that episode of voyager? They have been in space for millions of years and have far superior technology, even compared to species 8472 which is also quite powerful.
Species 8472 are strong but aren't they "peaceful" now? Besides, when you have the Shadows AND Vorlons working together PLUS whitestars....nothing will stand a chance, even the Q might be hurt due to Vorlon super psionic powers.
Q is still far more powerful. Q can completely manipulate create or destroy anything it desires in time and space. Vorlons and the other ancients from B5 can bend many rules of physics with their enormus powers but not to the level that Q is capable of!
of course, only Lorien's race (or Thirdspace) can probably really take on the Q but the Vorlons can still probably "hurt" some of the Q somewhat. Besides, the Q haven't been shown to be immune to telepathic attacks, in fact, Q was afraid of Guinan. But whenever you have an omnipotent (literally) race around....nothing really matters in the long run.
I didnt know who wa attacking who in this one. Anywho, throw in the REPLICATORS and the ORI from SG1 and Atlantis and Then You GOTS a PARTAY!!
ricogoldstar 4 months ago
Yeah, I'm pretty intrigued to know the backstory to that alliance myself!
BTW, given that Klingon ships are pretty crappy and their one main advantage is that they can cloak, it woulda been nice to see them use that...
irrevenant3 6 months ago
Shadows using an ordinary jumpgate - how embarrassing. That's like Spiderman taking the escalator...
dl7und 6 months ago
It kicked ass to see the Whitestars, Shadow Vessels AND Vorlon ships fighting together on the same side, the first time ever!
This of course would only happen on B5 if the Thirdspace aliens showed up during the Shadow War, THAT would have been interesting to see, the Army of Light (who controls the White Stars), the Vorlons AND the Shadows putting aside their differences to take down an enemy that threatened them all.
girlgarde 8 months ago
I must admit, my only complaint is that we didn't get to see the Shadows do more; seemed like it was mostly the Vorlons.
DanPhantom89 8 months ago
Vorlon and Shadow Alliance- Who poked the sleeping dragons??
Bronasaxon 9 months ago
@Bronasaxon Beats me but I'm glad they did! Hearing the Shadow Vessels cries as they emerged with the Babylon 5 season 4 theme music playing made me think "Yeah! The Shadows are on the side of good now!". It's the equivalent of the Cardassians from DS9 switching sides and joining up with the Federation and its allies in the final battle of the Dominion War!
girlgarde 8 months ago
@Bronasaxon Also, I guess Species 8472 and the Dominion badmouthed Lorien (the first one) who BOTH the Vorlons AND the Shadows revere and listen to or worse yet, harmed him and now they're putting aside their differences to wipe out the guilty party. It's like if two brothers who fight all the time team up to go after someone who hurt their mother and/or father figure.
girlgarde 8 months ago
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That has to be one FRICKING huge Hyperspace portal in the beginning
Harviousify 1 year ago
That has to be one FRICKING huge Hyperspace portal in the beginning
Harviousify 1 year ago 3
a war of small talent
afterzlin 1 year ago
Birds of prey and Whitestars is a good combination of ships from sci fi shows.
michaelhviper 1 year ago
it seems to me B5 wasn't known for there awesome shields in fact the species they did meet with shields nearly wiped them out. Star Trek ships have truly awesome shields. They would have precious little to fear from B5 ships. The only thing that could save B5 ships from the torpedos would be the interceptor weapons and they wouldn't stop the beam weapons.
woofdogmeow 1 year ago
@woofdogmeow Hmmm... it depends. Vorlon and Shadow technologies were absolutely destructive.
Of course, it is hard to compare two fictional universes, but logic says that any of the first races would crush Star Trek ships as if they were made of paper, regardless of shields (normal Star Trek weapons quickly take care of Star Trek shields, so stronger weapons would probably bypass them with ease).
The older races in Star Trek are usually invincible, so Vorlons and Shadows would be such vs. ST.
JulioMarco 9 months ago
thoughts of the enemy as those hyperspace gate opened: Holy $#!7, we're screwed!
LeonSylon 1 year ago
hey guys i dunno bout u buuuuuut stargate would take them all out
joshua41175 1 year ago
u know what guys stargate would ftw all over these guys u know why? two words acended asgard
two more words
replicators, ancients
last two words
jack O'neil aka mcguiver (spelled his name wrong)
joshua41175 1 year ago
I absolutely loved it.
cybervoid 1 year ago
@Lars - You really thing the SF shields would be on par with 3rd space alien shields? Honestly?
Also you do remember WHY the shadows were starting to use telepaths to control their vessels. To make them immune to psi attacks....
The Vorlons and Shadows are on par with the Iconians in ST universe, far far beyond the technology of star-fleet or species 8472
StevenLockey 1 year ago
That is what i call peacekepping.... LOL
pacal007 1 year ago
The Vorlons and the Shadows Vs every other tv sci-fi race.
No contest.
The Vorlons ALONE would own everyone.
That includes:
Star Wars
Star Trek
BSG
Species 8472 wouldn't even get a shot off.
sspiega 1 year ago 2
Crap. Vorlons!
paul7494 1 year ago
Epic fail:
1. Species 8472 are a telepathic race. They would have owned the shadows without difficulty.
2. ST-ships have shield-technology like the third-space aliens in B5 (the same aliens that even the vorlons feared). Even a vorlon cruiser would have needed a little more firepower than that to take out a Dominion war cruiser.
larsblom 1 year ago
@larsblom
1. As appear to be allies, Vorlons would have most likely protected the Shadows with their telepathic capabilities.
2. Yes they have shield technology, but we have no ground on what the excat numbers are. You can say that early 21st century man has a bullet proof vest, but does that mean he can stand against futuristic 23rd century guns that use bullets (considering that in this scenario we would be still developing better version of metallic bullet weapons).
Finlandcitizen 1 year ago
Looks more like a free for all.
DiceGuru 1 year ago
Definately cool but how come the Shadows, Vorlons, and Whitestars aare helping the Klingons defend Earth from the Draak and Dominion????? I thought that the Draak were servants of the Shadows
klingoncowboy4 1 year ago
you have to be kiding me! A shadow,a whitestar and a voron in a alliance!
muzzithegreat 1 year ago
Look like war between spiece 8472 and Dominion against Klingons, Shadow, Vorlons etc...
MoodMan35 1 year ago
Vorlons and the shadows?! That's just not fair!
Khuratokh 1 year ago
B5 is cool in its own right, but it doesnt belong with the ST universe.
translucentorb 2 years ago
If you remember from B5, the First Ones left the Shadows and Vorlons to guide the younger races. Somewhere down the line they disagreed on order vs chaos but before that they worked together. But obviously the Whitestars and other ships did not exist during that time, lol. I think all B5 fans have wondered, at least once, about the Shadows working with the current generations. I would be awesome :)
snarkywolf 2 years ago
* I = it. It would be awesome :)
snarkywolf 2 years ago
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this stuff is so gay.
mygaffer 2 years ago
ive always just loved the vorlon dreadnaught, great vid !
hpsly35 2 years ago
dude this was like one of the freakin best ones ive freaken seen. i actually loved seeing the vorlons and shadows working together. plus its cool that them and the whitestars worked together against star trek and those guys i dont thin ive seen before. thousand fingers up
zakkpierce 2 years ago 4
its cool and all but im so confused.
ZabrakS22 2 years ago
Shadows and Volons working toghetter? Even in a parallel world that would never happen.
For the rest it's a good vid.
Soldierlozer 2 years ago
good vid, i might be a B5 fan but at least they won! i like the bit at: 0:44 when most of the diffrent species from B5 come through(i was a bit confused that shadows were with them) by the way does anyone know what episode that episode long space battle was on B5?
theonewithabank 2 years ago
Are you talking about the alliance\first one vs fighing against the Shadows vs Varlons it was season 4 episode 72 Into the Fire. When
Zorolord 2 years ago
WHAT PROGRAM DID U USE TO MAKE THIS?
NX74205USSDefiant 2 years ago
So You Got Klingons Fighting Species 8472 Fighting Dominion Fighting... Whats The Ship Thats Shaped Like A Bad Christmas Decoration?
LazyMatt0391 3 years ago
Those are the Shadows from Babylon 5, or Vorlons if those are the ships you mean.
Beastphilosophy 2 years ago
The Ship At 0:59...
LazyMatt0391 2 years ago
yep Shadows
Beastphilosophy 2 years ago
O.O golden "Behemoth" ship from DarkPirates at 0:42?
zeratul126 3 years ago
That's a Vorlon battleship from B5. Scary ships, though we see them fire all of once in the entire 5 year run of the show.
WUZLE 2 years ago 2
@zeratul126 no badass B5 ship is wat we mean though i hate the fact they only used bird of prey ships and not any larger klingon ships like there version of the the warbird
joshua41175 1 year ago
I actually like the sound that the shadows ships make
middlekeep 3 years ago 2
the federation is screwed.
username1105 3 years ago
He who pisses of both Vorlons and Shadows doesn't like long enoguh to tell about it (unless your John Sheridan, of course)
Bronasaxon 3 years ago
Ok, First off, We know B5 cant really battle any star trek stuff, Second, why would species 8472 team with dominion, and third, I believe that was the battle to reclaim DS9, Aka, Tourk nor.
TitanLover8011 3 years ago
I don't know I doubt star trek ships would be able to stand up to Shadow and Vorlon ships.
newhoped 3 years ago
I agree with both of you. This video makes no sense at all.
Beastphilosophy 2 years ago
Cant go wrong with Vorlons !!
Edd25164605 3 years ago
To those of you who watched both shows you KNOW the species 8472 were just copies of bio-technology aliens from B5, same time that DS9 started with huge fleet stories and epic battles because B5 had pushed that envelope. Trek followed the trend B5 began.
CanadaMan81 3 years ago 20
Yeah, B5 was so much better at the large space battles too.
Beastphilosophy 2 years ago 23
Well, if ever there were something that could put 8472 on the defensive, that would certainly be it... impressive work, indeed.
Alkahest 3 years ago
aaaaaaaaa shadows O_____O awesome specie XD
Ephilepson 3 years ago
I think I saw a single TIE fighter way in the back watching the battle. Its last transmission said JOIN ME AND OUR COLLECTION OF CGI PANTHEONS WILL BE COMPLETE!! LOVE DV. Wonder who it was.
krashly71 3 years ago 2
notice how the other side always comes from behind or beside? I want to see one where they start head on
faramir22 3 years ago 2
Yeah right Big Enos, V'ger is unstoppable, i had just about forgot about it, Vger could destroy anything from B5 or star trek.
macw04 3 years ago
On the subject of shear 'hardcore starship-porn' I'd love to see Ian M Banks's culture ships on screen - they're sentient and come complete with the best names ever like the Psychopath class Rapid Offensive Unit 'Frank Exchange of Views' from 'Excession' to name just one. I smile just thinking about them...
BigEnos001 3 years ago
Imagine how put out they'd all feel if V'ger appeared and reduced the whole lot of them to data patterns ha ha
BigEnos001 3 years ago 2
i actually like the vid.
barmyguy900 3 years ago
Since when did Species 8472 join the Dominion? And even more disturbing, what are those B5 ships doing in a ST-universe?
larsblom 4 years ago
From what I understand of the Species 8472 ships there are so many similarities between their ships and the ships used by the Vorlons, I wonder if the writers of ST didn't use the Vorlons as inspiration for S8472.
XorPtr 3 years ago
for one thing, they both use "lightning bolt" weaponry, are both organic, and they can wipe out anything in their path. B5 rocks!!!!
silaku 3 years ago
I am sorry, but this video is technologically inacurrate. 2 8472 bioships would whpe everything out. You need Nanite torpedos to defeat them. B5 does not have the technology to initiate that action. However, the Dominion and Klingon vessels can.
RifleMan80 4 years ago
Maybe the nanites have little surfboards and they ride the phaser beams onto the 8472 ships? ;-)
quietearthMT 4 years ago
B5 Human ships may not, But those Vorlon ships are nasty, they can wipe everything out.
Krill8888 3 years ago
I love these old movies, I really do. But the Vorlons and Shadows fighting on the same side? Them whipping up on 8472?!
senatus 4 years ago
Hello!Guys the fed ships why dont use the green torpedo that is defeated the 8472 in the past??
is that torpedo working againts vorlon and shadow ships?
gun844 4 years ago
Shit! Intersellar Alliance, The Shadows, The Vorlons, and The Klingons together?! Thats kinda cool....yet scarey. lol
EvolutionStratus 4 years ago
Ok. You know who would kick all others asses in these battle scenes, but I have not seen hide nor tail of them in these vs. videos? You know the dinosaur people from that episode of voyager? They have been in space for millions of years and have far superior technology, even compared to species 8472 which is also quite powerful.
4tylers777 4 years ago
I actually think it's cheating to bring in all the B5 ships, it wouldn't have been a fair fight.
Notcoldsoup 4 years ago
lol.. Species 8472.. they are much stronger than the borg and 1 borg cube took on 42 Star Fleet ships.
(I believe thats the right amount)
Species 8472 is one of the strongest species out of all four quadrants.
TIAZemious 5 years ago
Species 8472 are strong but aren't they "peaceful" now? Besides, when you have the Shadows AND Vorlons working together PLUS whitestars....nothing will stand a chance, even the Q might be hurt due to Vorlon super psionic powers.
Notcoldsoup 4 years ago 2
Q is still far more powerful. Q can completely manipulate create or destroy anything it desires in time and space. Vorlons and the other ancients from B5 can bend many rules of physics with their enormus powers but not to the level that Q is capable of!
4tylers777 4 years ago
of course, only Lorien's race (or Thirdspace) can probably really take on the Q but the Vorlons can still probably "hurt" some of the Q somewhat. Besides, the Q haven't been shown to be immune to telepathic attacks, in fact, Q was afraid of Guinan. But whenever you have an omnipotent (literally) race around....nothing really matters in the long run.
Notcoldsoup 4 years ago
but humans defeated them!!!!so....and we defeated the borg alike!plus we are the leaders of the federation!plus the borg make a big war againts 8472.
They are in a weakend state.
gun844 4 years ago
LoL, great video, you just had to bring in Babylon 5!
Glitchrf 5 years ago
cool!!
tonytruesicilian 5 years ago