Wagner - Parsifal Act III Mittag

[waelse1]

Love the Syberberg 1978 film, and the Jordan recording.

[damongnomus]

After 50 years of opera interpretation and 50 years of geniuse (Karajan, Kleiber, ...) there are still stupid comments about the clash between Italian opera and German opera. I have sung Verdi, Puccini, Rossini, Donizetti, Wagner and Strauss: different topics, traditions, approach to music, but many ways to express the MAN from many different angles: for these reasons the opera is charming to do without to need ideological wars that are historically and musically unnecessary and outdated

[Bruno53ification]

I don't like to treat common humans as "God". And Wagner was human. But his music is something else! One of the greatest composers, alongside Bach, Mozart and Beethoven, of all time.

[lordjulius00]

Too fast, i want to wallow in it like a hog

[jtruskot]

Too much going on with the scenery. It's totally distracting from the music.

[MontseZ]

si a toda la obra de Wagner le quitamos la mitad, es absolutammente sublime; pero en su formato original es genial, brillante, extraordinaria pero también pesada, aburrida y muchos momentos, insoportable. Soy un gran admirador de este compositor pero creo que esta muy divinizado y, teatralmente y como escritor, deja bastante que desear.

[Lampodoria]

Wagner ist genial, großartig, einfach fantastisch und unerreicht.

[windstorm1000]

terrible set--production infected with chereau's avant garde french warp.

[txtrnl341]

amfortas: just shoot me already! this is the cruelest music....so wrenching....i can barely get through the opera without crying...wagner's greatest masterpiece.

[Sennettfan]

Nobody expressed the angst, the power, the emotion like Wagner. And musically so clever at the same time. Astonishing.

[cyclonesupercell]

Wonderful

[Nixonfan2011]

German Opera Actually Takes Talent to Compose, as Opposed to that Italian Shit! Wagner knew music! and Wagner Took it from behind and gave it all he had! Wagner is a God To me!

[xxtristaniaxx]

Wagner is the real Metal God!!

[ezev8logos]

Wagner puede a veces ser tan genio, y a veces puede ser tan aburrido que sorprende

[raticida123456]

is totally amazing!! wagner is really a big genius..

[Biogiant22]

Forse un po' troppo kitsch questo Parsifal del bravo Syberberg, che non riesce a ripetersi dopo il capolavoro dell' "Hitler". Interessante comunque lo sdoppiamento di Parsifal, anche se non è bello vedere cantare dei "simulacri".

[drtmuir]

Who is the third who walks always beside you?

When I count, there are only you and I together

But when I look ahead up the white road

There is always another one walking beside you

Gliding wrapt in a brown mantle, hooded

I do not know whether a man or a woman

—But who is that on the other side of you?

TS Eliot, "The Waste Land"

[sjokolade777]

jA DIE eNTSTELLUNG HÖCHSTER kUNST IST EIN zEICHEN GEISTIGER oHNMACHT...

[TommyHaegin]

Well, musically the most beautiful recording of Parsifal is by Karajan in the DG recording from 1984 or so it is. He's got all the tempi exactly right, in my opinion. Some will say too slow. But only when a conductor is afraid of the music and does no trust its content he will conduct it fast. Good conductors will give the music its due time. And yes, this one is too fast. Barenboim is even worse.

[rumpwrestler]

@TommyHaegin The worst recording of PARSIFAL is that of Karajan, who turns everything into a soap opera, always pretty, like honey dripping in your ears, and neutered. I've seen his PARSIFALS at the Vienna State Opera, great sound with that great orchestra, and NOTHING in the way of music-theater ever happening. I detest Karajan.

[grouchocatman]

@rumpwrestler "Honey dripping in your ears" is really a good description of Karajan's approach to music as a whole, not merely Wagner. If you detest K's Wagner, you'll loathe his Schubert.

[rumpwrestler]

@TommyHaegin Karajan, whose Parsifal i've seen at the Vienna State Opera, turns this work into a soap opera, always pretty to the point of vomit. Karajan is music's number one fraud.

[CincinnatusUSA]

The ultimate opera--all hail Wagner!

[er38]

very interesting...

[Loge84]

Syberberg`s Parsifal is the most seek production of Parsifal ever! Especially for the disgusting profanation of the final scene he schould be....I dont know what....but anyway, this production can be EVERYTHING, but NOT Parsifal!

[redabdab]

Genius!

[Ontologistics]

Sublime. Hear my use of Parsifal in my video, 'Sin is Illusion'.

[ApsisApocynthion]

Wagner is the god of music.

[rumpwrestler]

@ApsisApocynthion He's no god, but he is brilliant.

[jorgealbertobaron]

GRAN OBRA DE WAGNER

[malamutet]

Wagner può piacere o non in quanto appartiene, nel panorama musicale, ad un altro pianeta; per me il massimo.

I riferimenti a Hitler sono ridicoli, tipici di una cultura vetero marxista.

[reynaldina]

hai ragione, Wagner appartiene alla cultura musicale universale, é di un'altro pianeta... ma non concordo con la tua ultima visione sulla cultura vetero Marxista, da buona marxista ti dico che Wagner é il mio dio musicale, quindi.... se çi riferimenti ad Hitler sono ridicoli, come sono quelli al marxismo?

[turcoladen]

Wagner = The best

[derob7]

can you really call him the best? There are some people who even call his operas BORING. I don't think they are boring, but i prefer Mozart, Rossini, and Donizetti when it comes to opera.

[thebloads]

I dont think the italian tradition has the emotional scope of wagners operas

[azertis3]

@thebloads Exactly. Italian operas are dramatic, but not emotional.

[rumpwrestler]

@azertis3 Where have you been? Traviata, Butterfly, Boheme?  Get some new ears.

[azertis3]

@rumpwrestler That is my opinian. For me, Italian operas are just dramatic.

[azertis3]

@rumpwrestler That's my opinion. Italian operas are just dramatic, but lack deepness.

[reynaldina]

Baudelaire was enchanted when he first heard Wagner's music!

I don't think you can make a top 10, you like what you like and not what some critics say it better.

Wagner was an adorable dramtic God! it's true.

[jackal59]

Based on the clips of this that I have seen, this must rank with Bergman's "The Magic Flute" as among the best opera films ever made.

[spinoza1111]

Yes, it is. I saw it in the theater in London in 1983 with a good sound system. Many traditional Wagnerians, including my Dad, hate the deconstructive peek into the recesses of the German mind in the post-modern staging.

And they REALLY punch out when Parsival does his trans-sexual thing.

[Por0]

Marvelous indeed. Eternal memory to meister Wagner.

[EinFremderAusElea]

Oh Gott, ist das etwa "Hans Sachs" Bernd Weikl?

DEN DARF MAN GENAUSO WENIG EINE ANDERE ROLLE SINGEN LASSEN, WIE THEO ADAM EINE ANDERE ALS WOTAN!

[ftumschk]

"Oh Gott, ist das etwa "Hans Sachs" Bernd Weikl?"

Nein - das ist Robert Lloyd (als Gurnemanz).

[clymnestre]

who's singing ? where and when ?

[trevoralain]

Instead of always bringing back the jew issue, racism and other non-musical stuff in Wagner's works when watchng listening Syberberg's movie better read Syberberg's working papers and may I stress on this very quote (my translation from the original text) ; it's not with the statistic of Auschwitz that we may fight against Hitler but with Richard Wagner"...

[jorgealbertobaron]

UNO DE MIS COMPOSITORES FAVORITOS

[Katamanteuomos]

la grande expe'rience mistique et chre'tienne. mais je remarque ici en peu de messianisme, peut-e^tre? Marx, Goethe, Nietzsche, en fond le grand visage de Christe. Wagner etait le grand mistique et chre'tien, mais en cette interpretation on peut remarquer la ideologie national-allemande et messianisme. Parsifal- le nouveau Christe de nation (tres simile comme en oevres des allemandes ancienes et slaves- p.ex. "Dziady" de Mickiewicz).

[valtin2006]

Captures Wagner's critique of Christianity as a death cult, anti-sex, and depraved

[796824]

Very sad to read such twisted logic

[icarusinbrazil]

Christianity may or may not be those things but Wagner desparately tried to convert the original Jewish conductor of Parsifal to Christianity before the premiere. The conductor remained Jewish. Whatever Wagner tried to convey philosophically, the music is wonderful. This was Wagner's last work and the final line was "redemption to the redeemer." Nobody was in greater need of redemption than Wagner.

[croscream]

wagners dark music is a reflection of different personalities in his brain fighting to become dominant and the only thing keeping wagner from going crazy is his own willpower.

[PIPhilMarlowe]

Wow, obviously you know very little about Wagner...methinks you've read a little bit of Nietszche. But obviously not enough, because then you would know that Parsifal was one of the main reasons Wagner and Nietszche ended their friendship: Nietszche saw Wagner as "bowing down to the Cross" with Parsifal...