Single Cam Turbo EG vs B20/VTEC EG

[phillblack1]

Don't play your self wit a d16 it will never out do a B. The b has more top end and horse power the D has good comparison with boost but it will brake down over & over & over & over u get it all we drive is Honda's & Acura's trust me we work on our cars so no tuner or shop man can yell me shit i drove down that road n blow 3 d16 worked to the max

[Bladerunner715]

Now does the b20 make 180 to the wheels? Or the crank. Cuz stock jdm gsr is rated 180hp at the crank.

[jdmfreak92]

@Bladerunner715 Well this is a b20 vtec... which depending on what mods, what cylinder head they used, and which b20 block they used. can put out a variety of numbers

[Bladerunner715]

@jdmfreak92 ah i see. yeah i dont know much about lsv or the b20vtecs.i looked into lsv and it seemed more expensive than just buying a gsr swap. but that shit is sweet

[jdmfreak92]

@Bladerunner715 The reason why alot of people do it is because it's actually cheaper. you just need the know how on how to correctly do it.

[wezzterman]

D series, B series, K series, N/A, boost, nitrous.. everyone has their own cup of tea. Instead of fighting, why can't we all just rejoice in our love for Honda and be glad we're not driving Cavaliers.(no offence to j-body enthusiasts)

[iTzUNwritten]

type in "Supertech Integra resets K series record'

8 SECOND INTEGRA K SERIES!

[Damon730]

type in crx and look at the 510 hp single cam

[SUMIDIOT121]

b20z block with a vtec head bone stock puts down about 180hp

[Mw2Fusionz]

just sayin i know 2 fellas and they where clocked at 120mph by the cops one pulled over got 2 years suspended licence other fella drove on at 140mph didnt get caught and the car is hot to the cops so his sellin it

[yoyomaster29]

@Mw2Fusionz ur POINT????

[dhmtnbikeman]

dude? is that d15 turbo? what have you done to motor? internals etc

[MrSpoonegg1]

impressive for a single cam but thas probably just a ls in the eg

[PureGfx529]

that white eg got smoked

[rickboy89]

blades looks nice on eg's

[nohomo811]

@rickboy89 blades are nice period lol

[darkside59]

I love boosted car but compare to a 275whp turbo car to a 275whp N/A car.. The N/A Car will take the car that has Boost. A N/A honda with 275whp will be running low 10's high 9's where the turbo honda with 275whp will be running low 13's mid 12's. but its all depend on weigh as well..

The reason why. All motor have power on all RPM range and all the power will is there with no lag of any kind... where turbo have lag and need to built boost b4 it give power. But N/A has Limits.

[AllOutMugen]

u do understamd that both cars are boosted its jus the D16z6 is a beast of a engine haha

[nohomo811]

@AllOutMugen haha so true bro!!!!

[RSXYYY]

you have no idea what you're talking about. **and it looks to me like the white car majorly short shifted into 2nd.

[mia305loko]

i agree but its fairly easy to hit 300hp on boost but how hard is it to do all motor?

if i could make more that 225 all motor i would be happy but u need mooney to go from a stock b16 160hp to 225whp

[darkside59]

@mia305loko

I agree with you there. When you boosting, it is easy to hit 300+hp, and for all motor it is harder to get above 200+hp. It also cost more for all motor than going boost. Even tho turbo can achieve a higher HP than all motor, a 225hp all motor is as fast as a 300hp boost. that is why Skunk2 is famous for its all motor. Remember their 10sec Intergra.

[MassiveLemon]

@darkside59

Not necessarily true, it really depends on a host of factors. It's not as simple as you make it. What's the temperature? Humidity? Size of the turbocharger? What's the compressor map of the turbocharger like, how well does it flow in conjunction with the head, how fast can it spool, etc., etc. If you look at dyno sheets, turbocharged cars make more power all over the RPM band. It's simple physics. Turbochargers add more air, more fuel, they are better period.

[pgo05]

did a double cam engine is very faster than a single...

[aspen02STi]

b20vtec needs some better rubber and some raked stance first and second are useless!

[darkside59]

Why some people call VTEC "VTECH" or spell it like that.. Thats is dumb.. What VTECH=Valve Timing Electronic Controll Hybrid?? hahaha Hey thats not bad.. Honda should make a Hybrid Vtec motor.. and call it Vtech... hahaha

[TurqoiseHatVideos]

@darkside59 lol ik i hate that shit go my youtube channel u hear me bitchen people out for that and lol good idea hybrid.

[teamicecream21]

@darkside59 the honda crz haha

[dawoodz209]

whoever was driving the turbo should have raced on the freewway because it would have let the turbo spool and maybe would have had a chance of beating the b20

[darkside59]

All the fuss.. I prefer the B16 head over the B18c. The B16A, B16B, B17A, and the B18C5 are all interchangeable. The B18c have different Intake mounting position.

[mikethecollector]

yuppppp i agree, gotta love the b16 head

[artilery1091]

yall talk so much shyt of course ders no such thing as an vtec ls only wen u frankeinstei it dummys u take a ls block put a b16 head wit a b16 tranny and itl jus work like a suiped up b16 learn 4rm da best and ull b da best idiots study about hondas

[pedevildog]

man you need to learn how to speak and spell.

[68snatchback]

2200 gsr's were made from 92-93 with 1.7 ltr

[darkside59]

wat a fuck tard. there is a b17 gsr motor. go google it. n yea the da come with ls not gsr. it the db2 gsr

[H0wT0g00gle]

your right my friend has a da gsr b17 things quick as hell he also has a da rs and that has an ls motor. b17's were da gsr motors that year of gsr is rare but they are out there

[mia305loko]

this mans smart :)

yes there is a b17 gsr motor

and how 68snatchback said only few were made ..

btw the b17 are better for boost i think

my opio.

[JayGonzo]

to make b20 vtec you need a b20 block from a crv and a gsr head. you can still get away with a bit of power with the b16a1, but gsr is better for high end power and torque

[her0062]

Turbo will always take All motor on highend...

but if that b20 vtec was boosted...it would have killed that sohc vtec turbo...D series still have potential...but B series have more potential over D series...K series have more potential over B series....

[nikkiesmokey]

i think you mean SI or GSR. LS heads arent VTEC.

[donvitolover182]

lol idk why the fuck i said ls. he could have like a b16 head or a gsr or a b18c head or a b17 head

[aznboy103]

Theres no such thing as a b17 Lol

[donvitolover182]

ur an idiot. the b17 was the first gsr motor. they were in the da gsr. look it up

[adjkfl32]

theres no such thing as a vtech ls head, theres only type r, gsr and b16 and others but not ls lol

[ss396rat]

there's no such thing as vtech. It's vtec

[john1234135]

HAhhaha fuckin right man

[mikethecollector]

there is such thing as vtech, but they make phones and childs electronics lol. however there is no such thing as vtack, and its not funny to say

[extemeaggression]

which one is the sohc and which one is the b20??

[KillerB20ZVtec]

DAMN! good race..but yeah who cares what motor you boost or build just as long as its tuned right and its quick is all that matters

[JayDM93]

Right on!

[BEGOODTOYOURDOG1]

@KillerB20ZVtec. Sorry, I hit the flag on your comment by mistake. I meant to hit the thumbs up.

[MrJDmGsR1]

@KillerB20ZVtec  how much power does your b20z vtec have ? i got a jdm gsr & was wondering if i shud trade the short block for a b20z..... but idk if it wud make more power

[locc313]

which one is the turbo?

[JayDM93]

All depends on the driver.

[laxdude761]

cant say all... alot yes but not all

[CalvinDyals]

i must say sohc are a force to be reckened with.. i have a stock jdm d15b and i stomp Ls's and run with gsr's all day.. now that i have a garret t3t4 in my bed room and vitara 8.5:1 pistions on the way... ill lookin for V8's.. first one to stomp with be my older brothers sn94 steeda(not stock) :)

[ohyeshim2]

b series is where is at but there some d series running low 8 chech on yotube type d16 should come up

[logic2reason]

stick with the d series. both motors can make over 500whp, so who cares. besides, with a small d series, it much easier to pick up by yourself... i like them becuase they are simplier, smaller and easier to move around ( mostly because of the head) and the parts are everywhere. i had a turbo gsr in a 95 civic. when a stock d series on 15lbs stayed with me when i was on 8. thats when i said screw it. lol

[TheVirusNemesis]

i have nothing agaisnt single to the eg nice race props this goes to the shit talker.

yes i understand that not everyone can afford a b series engine and sometimes you just have to work with what you got i used to have a d16y7 on my shit and the i boosted and it was pretty damm fast so i understand y you guys say that single cams can whoop dual cams i know i used to do it :)... but here the diference i saved for a very long time and i upgraded to a fully fully built b20 turbo sorry single (slow)

[codybizzle10r]

i love single cam turbos especially when u run 7lbs and smoke every dual cam u race and u have half the money in the your setup

[nofxgdb182]

wtf....who gives a fuck what you run, in the end its about who wins...if you got a killer single cam thats smokin any duel that comes along, then right on. Everyone that complains about someone elses engine is a fucking idiot...ITS NOT YOUR CAR. fuck. Having a single cam does not mean your a cheap bastard...moron. maybe you make minimum wage and have to pay rent, and dont still live with mommy, and are going to school at the same time. not everyone was born in suburbia with rents to pay foritall

[MasterDruEr]

Get over it. There are D16 turbo monsters out there. And built on a budget, that last a very long time. Its a freaking honda baby you just need to understand that since the b16 is a beast out of the box that the d isn't shit. Once boost is added to the equation being force fed air is a world of improvement over just an extra cam. The inexpensive D cams around follow the same logic, cheap and extremely effective. The d series IS the most bang for your buck turbo system. 250-300 stock block

[narcoteg]

TOMMY15 did you not read my previous comments i said if your a cheap bastard stay with the sohc something tells me your a cheap bastard second of all your ingnorant who whats to put 3000 dollars into a sohc power plant you , if your going to build a motor build a dohc opps forgot commenting with a cheap bastar. taking your sohc to the track thinking its the hottest thing out thier since tv came out know that my friend is priceless.

[narcoteg]

500hpsohc made a comment not to talk shit about single cams yeah he is correct but doesent this apply to any motor? turbo charge a lawnmower and youll get more power,he comments that he has 500hp on a d16 and stomps on b18s and k20s add the money you spent buddy i bet you could get that much horspower with way less money on any twin cam but whatever floats your boat i guess.

[tommy15]

Naw, it will all add up to how much a complete swap of a B16 or B18(complete swap is like $1200-2000) or even a K20(which is like $5,000 U.S)

Fully Built Sohc block and head= $1,200

Sohc Turbo= $1,500

tune and dyno= $300

Total= $3,000

gettin the right tune and destroyin a Dohc...Priceless..

[narcoteg]

Ktrain0218 how many motors are you plannig to blow? yeah d series are so abundant that you can get them for 500 but why risk it when you could get a better build more reliable motor straight from the factory and you wont need to go on craigslist every week to look for a replacement.

[narcoteg]

silly sohc boost is for dohcs every one boostin single cams are cheap bastards who rather budget boost than actually get a real motor like the legendary b series. sohcs are nothing but a cheap excuse not to to get a twin cam vtec or not.

[Ktrain0218]

What is wrong with having a better bang for your buck?

lol @ this type of logic.

[b20jdmintegra]

i agree. why not spend a lil more and a b series. You already invested in a turbo. dohcs are far supieror to sohc and the amount of hp increase is worth it

[Ktrain0218]

You can find a D series with the engine and tranny for under $500. If you mess it up, just go on and buy another one.

[smiley171]

oka was this in philly cuz that kinda looked like holstien

[500hpsohc]

dont fuckin talk shit about single cams like enikolayev said, when they're boosted they're a total different story, my crx is pushing 500hp and it has a d16, and i take b18s k20s all the fuckin time, so dont talk shit if you dont know what youre talking about

[grimeyseason]

then lock it up ... how much u got to throw on the table my dude?

[NightWolfModz]

sohc ftw!!!!!

[enikolayev]

If you haven't boosted a single cam, you shouldn't talk trash about it. Those things are quick.

[TopMountGSR]

thats not a gsr. b18c is gsr not b20vtec. and i have a b20bvtec and i really regret not havin a b20z block. it has so much more hp

[gtstunt11221]

change your compression ratio

[ballarac3rboi]

that guy wid the single turbo is a cocky ass muther fuka..think he's quick..butta its a gsr now and its still slow..wadda shame!

[canadanali]

u guys are probably gonna say yeah right but ive owned both a d16 turbo and a b20z vtec in a 93 eg and can say d stands no chance not even close b20z will stomp it trust me.look at honda-tech civics faqs for dragtimes best d16 turbo atfer 10psi pulls 14 when a b20z vtec with bolt ons do 13s

[enikolayev]

I bolt on my turbo :D

[gdes008]

Am assuming the civic that we see is the B20 rite? Cos yea...B20 will start off first but turb'd one will take over soon.

[Dickotine]

dont sleep on the SOHC. remember the single cam is a strong one. Its not a single weak cam. They normally put up good torque numbers that when boosted equals hp or exceeds hp numbers.

[Ktrain0218]

Save the SOHC!!!!

[babylildr]

datz not single cam dats a fully built b16 hatch dyno tuned he probably says that cause he a shame of how his car runs lol

[purddyboi]

he didnt jump... the camera to sound quality is just not that good. the sound is a little slower than the video

[kls023]

EG jumped and still lost.... damn so much for B20V... so sad.......

[theredejvtec]

hatch jumped the gun!

[youbakla408]

need more boost..

[royalsmokela]

rage is rite..but thats not the first sohc turbo iv seen walk a b20v @_@

[rage209]

lmao 7 psi on a single? most power he can put is bearly 200hp... b20vtech easily 200+

[VtecRexy]

how can u make a generalization like that? shows your lack of knowledge!

[team123luder]

psi means nothing, it's all about engine efficiency, turbo setup and tune. B20VTEC's (spell it right) in stock form wont put anything above 140whp on a roller dyno, the compression is far too low to take advantage of the VTEC head.

[SinsEvil666]

Wrong. A stock B20z will give u 146 whp. and stock b20b will give u 126whp. (with no VTEC head). it all depends on which b20 you get,

[99+ SMX Japan B20Z 9.6:1 146hp@6200/133lb-ft@4500]

[97-'98 CR-V USA RD B20B 8.8:1 126hp@5400/133lb-ft@4300]

Again, this is with no VTEC head. Bone Stock.

[team123luder]

Dude, you're a tard. That's Crank hp which doesn't contribute to drive train loss, which is roughly between 15-20% depending on the setup.

Which means a stock B20Z will give you about 110-115whp if you're lucky.

Please get your facts straight before you go posting useless bullsh*t

[geezyB00STED]

there is something SERIOUSLY wrong with that B20 Vtec lol the single cam is only running 7psi, he should not have been walked like that. either he cant drive and should retire from racing or someone messed up his motor lol

[royalsmokela]

im putn out 297 at 16psi with my dohc zc =). and LMao 3dscott xD

[SOHCturboEF]

^^^Yup yup, I got 237whp on 7psi on an A6 non v-tec.

[chr1s88blue]

237whp@7psi dayum, wat kinda turbo u usin

[BERMUDAMA]

HELL to the naww!!!ill race that fucking b20 -tech any day wid my stock GEO metro .

[3dscott]

and then they go around a corner and under stear into a wall.

[samygjr]

that guy with the civic cant drive worth shit

[99civicturbo]

ill race that lil single cam turbo anydayy

[pits4life19]

a friend of mine has a high 10 sec hatch w/B20vtec swap...i think its a 93 model, or 92...either way def. fast car for a N/A car.

[marctc3]

god i love hondas! so many things to do!

[Sicknowledge]

TeaLectric: No shit, I get pulled over once a week in my Integra. Their always asking for C.A.R.B #'s

[gayassmutherfawker]

singo cam turbo can surely beat a b20/vtec all motor

[tone2287]

well no shit the b20 its a bigger engine, turbo couldnt of done much with a single cam. unless it was fully built

[Chizel666]

you can do stock D16Y8 good tune on 10psi and get 220whp and have it be reliable. my friends brother has had his D16y8 on 10 psi as daily driver for 2years. still nothing wrong.

[TeaLectric]

id rather be boosted than be na but cali laws ant no joke

[JDMB20TDA]

boost > n/a

dohc>sohc...

[symbolic253]

b20vtec's are slow

[PeterLIKEasianGIRLS]

kinda true.. i wanna try 'em w/ my eg b16 swap.. but never seen a lot of 'em around..

[99B20Vtec]

your a idiot!!!

[DOHCtorMiguel]

What are you talking about. My B20-VTEC is bone stock INTERNALS w/ just bolt-ons and I ran thru plenty of cars from spraying Mustangs to M3's at the track. Check my video's

[HsamehH]

ok then that b20/vtec is shit or not tuned b20/vtec(even no mods)b20/vtec can beat the single cam on 7 psi i cant even hear an CAI for the B20

[enhance916]

this shit is fake aint no way a single cam turbo can beat a b20 vtec!

[TurboD16z6]

you think so.. i took out a Supra Rz so yea it can

[vongekin]

i'll love to you run for pink :D....my single cam built turbo vs your built b20 vtec(i'll even allow you to have a type-r swap) :D....anyday anywhere

[Spike101]

The B20/VTEC lost.

[easthtownfinest]

turbo

[n3mo9]

which one lost, turbo or b20vtec???