@tensab do not think we r fools and not realize how this system took roots in nepal. every fool knows caste system was practised under hindu system. according to which people are divided on the basis of occupation. try to be a man and accept the fact. it sad but hindu discrimination exists in nepal not only against dalits but all non hindus in nepal. one simple example is we not allowed to eat beef in nepal because hindus worship cows but but y non hindus are not allowed . fuking ridiculous,
The research is good and i respect your work but who the hell is that who is relating such caste system with HINDUISM. You have to learn about Hinduism first to make such statement. HINDUISM has nothing to do with such discrimination. It is only the lifestyle of people. So it is offensive to relate it with HINDUISM. try to edit your video and other your perspective of discrimination and Hinduism..........Nothing against Hinduism.....its only the oldest religion with lots of proof............
y do we even have caste system in nepal. we are not inmdia. these clever bahuns and chhetris made people dalit so they can always discriminate them. these bahun adn chhetris are just a piece of shit
the cast thing is pretty stupid it was made to favour fat rich people, BUT people that live by this rule are only a small number.
the fact of the matters is that it will all come down to who is better at work, white brown black every person is different in this world and i would give any of these people jobs if i knew they could do the job.
this is the ONLY sad part to hindus, but they only have their history links through hindus Vedic,books
I am aryan-looking nepali and i love the mongoloid looking nepalis. But irregardless of how nepalis look im still proud to be one coz we're more united than Singapore as we still share the same language(nepali) and religion(hindu).
During the times of Gopal Dynasty, Nepal was part of India for 621 years. The first hindu King of the Gopal dynasty was Bhuktaman and he was selected by Ne-Muni (A muni is a Hindu sadhu/sage) to be the ruler of the Kathmandu valley. As a matter of fact Nepal is named after this Hindu sage "Ne". "Pal" comes from Sanskrit word pala which means protector. Ne-pal in etymology means "protected by Ne'. The last king of the Gopal Dynasty was Yakshya Gupta.
@TheSerenityangel did you copy and paste from wiki???LOL this Indian are too much. We are no fools anymore. This myth was written by Brahmins in Nepal to hide Kirat Mongoloid civilization in Nepal. The same Brahmin wrote that former Shah King was a incarnation of Hindu God, Vishnu. LMAO!!! this is how crafty the Brahmins are. Neolithic tools found in the Kathmandu Valley indicated that people of Mongoloid ethnicity have been living in the Himalayan region for at least 10,000 years.
@diliprai After sending me those stupid articles it must be hard for you to face the reality now. Nepal is nothing and will never be anything. Its just a dot on the world map.
@TheSerenityangel do you know anything about the Gurkhas?? Google Gurkhas and Wiki will give you more about the Gurkhas in the British and even Indian army.
So don't say Nepal is nothing and will never be anything. Nepali society fail because the Aryan(ppl of middle eastern/arab/pakistani/afghani looks) has always been a Nepali government. This caste system was also created and started by Aryan Brahmins. BTW the Gurkhas are Mongoloid race.
@diliprai You should be happy that at least I posted from Wiki which is a trusted and reliable source. Unlike you who are talking out of sheer fake pride and ignorance.
@TheSerenityangel do you know how the term Nepal came to exist with valid and more accurate information. Well the term Nepal came to exist from 4th BCE. Before that the Himalayas region is recorded as Kiratdesh.
Suniti Kumar Chatterji, the Chairman of the Asiatic Society and a professor at the Calcutta University in India, has verified this historical fact that the term Nepal is derived from the Tibetan language Nebal meaning "a house of wool".
@TheSerenityangel Nepal early history are all written by Hindu King with the help of the Brahmin advisers. Don't you know that the victors always write the history. To erase the history and any remaining evidence of Kirat Mongoloid ciivlization the Brahmin made up all these fictitious story which is even taught in Nepali class. The New Constitution of Nepal have already recognized Yele Sambat in honor of first Kirat King Yalambar. Google Yele Sambat and you know the rest Indian Brahmin.
@TheSerenityangel it's good that Nepal have kicked out Indian Brahmin from Pashupathinath Temple. The Brahmin looted million of rupees meant for temple every day ignoring the plight of temples. These Brahmin are racist because they don't allowed the dalits to enter the temple.
The Brahmins are the real low caste and pollutants of the society.
@diliprai Nepal is nothing but a spot on the World map. You Gorkhas come begging to us for jobs and we recruit you as waiters or security guards. That's what your social status is in the world. Remember That!
@TheSerenityangel hey Indian Brahmin. The indigenous people of Nepal used to eat beef and are NOT Hindus. The native of the Himalayas are the Mongoloid race who are referred as Kiratas per the Vedic books. But after the Brahmin migrated into the Himalayas including Nepal, they brought this caste system
to divide and rule the Kiratas. They also forbid the Kiratas to eat beef. watch this video --> "Indigenous People of Nepal"
DooD i really pity you and your silly proudness that ure showing about Nepal and gurkhas, is dispiseful . You re just being 1 sided from there. that is what you say in india that we come begging ,
but u have no idea that the nepalese do say the same thing in even a better way , 'Dhoti lado chus' . U cant goggle that because its not in proper english lang.
People with that Thinking and intention, just like you , destorys what s left of Good
@ugescliff Fuck you mother fucker. People like you get all flamed up when you hear the truth. Some jerks here are disrespecting my community and religion so I am bound to answer them, if you can't take it then fuck off.
@TheSerenityangel i hate King Birendra Shah. In an attempt to induce caste system among the Kiratis, in the coronation ceremony of his Majesty King Birendra, in 1975, a Limbu was nominated as a Shudra, and a Shrestha as a Vaishya. Subsequently, some Brahmin priests initiated four boys from Rais into Chettri status in total contradiction with the earlier act of treating Limbu. This is a good example of how the Hindu rulers with the help of Brahmin advisors tried to divide Kirat.
@diliprai you are racist for your anti anyone else but Mongol-kiratism. BUT you are totally unable to distinguish from what is Kirat and what is Hindu. Also those brahmins are reinstated no less because the people of Nepal did not accept such a ruling without thier consultation. Nepali Indo Aryans are 50% of that country so quit with your double standards. The only decent Nepalis are those like Lhoso who see beyond race, yet you continue to contradict your statementd by playing the race card.
@diliprai yeah and it never succeeded as a kirat nation either. Your logic is twisted always blaiming others. You are trying to claim that everything is the fault of the wiley Aryan brahmins and therefore without realising it are suggesting that Kirata were too dim to maintain a nation. Ofcourse if it was not for the Gorkas (non kirata Hindus) Nepal would be non-existant, but an indian state. Yes caste discrimination is wrong, but so is any form of negative discrimination including yours.
@kumarsa108 i agree with you bro. That's why all Kirat must unify in order to bring Kiratdesh(now Nepal) forward. Nepal couldn't be develop because the Kiratas did not unify as ONE. Kirat people divide themselves as rai, limbu, grg, magar, newar, chhantyal, dhimal, thami, sunuwar, yakkha and so on.
How can Nepal develop when Kiratas do not unite? You are absolutely right that all Kirat or Kiratas must unify as ONE. Also Kirat must start engaging in Nepali politics and government. You are right.
@MrNepaltrekkingguide it would be hard to get rid of this system for awhile because more than 90% in Nepal politics and government are made up of Aryan(people having eastern/arab/pakistani/afghani looks), the same people who invented this caste system in the early time. This is prevalent in Aryan society and is common practice to them.
I am from Kirat tribe. The caste system was created by vedic Aryan especially Brahmins. In Rig Veda book, dating 2000BCE, it is mentioned that Kiratas fought against this system but Kiratas lost the war and so this system has been in existence since.
ashhole, who asked Bramin/chhetris to fight for nepal? the truth is they destroyed our ethnicity. And now time has come, we (federal states) gonna fuck Bramin/chhetris psycho Brain!!!
This is how to distinguish Aryan races. Well the Aryan have middle eastern/arab/pakistani/afghani features which are distinguishable from Dravidian and Mongoloid features. These Aryan(people having middle eastern/arab/pakistani/afghani features) are also present in Nepal which are easily distinguishable from native Mongoloid people. These Aryan arrived in the Himalayas including Nepal bringing their culture(caste-system & Hinduism with them).
the reason kirat ppl were called uncivilized was because they were.they were still living in tribes nd tribal wear while aryans had established soofisticated canal systems nd kjingdoms.
There are new published documents with ample evidence pertaining to Kirat being the first to open up human civilization in the Kathmandu valley are available. You can read some of these for better clarification and knowledge.
Temples of the Nepal valley, 2009
The brick and the bull: an account of Handigaun, the ancient capital of Nepal, 2002
The ancient settlements of the Kathmandu Valley, 2001
All these books are by professor Sudarshan Raj Tiwari.
Magar-Gurung-Rai-Limbu(MaGuRaLi) instead of becoming mercenary for the British army must now start thinking about how to run Nepal. Remember MaGuRaLi according to Muluki Ain(national code) of Nepal made by ruler J.B Rana are classified as "namasine"(unslaveable). So J.B Rana and his government allowed the British to recruit MaGuRaLi as the Gurkhas in the British-Indian Army. It was a very clever tactics by Rana government. The main reason was to let MaGuRaLi fight and died in foreign land.
ke mercenary for the british army bhanchas oye?? kati jana cha ra tyaha mercenaryharu..salaa bhadwaa...2700 jana ko fauj lai 1 lakh ko jasto badhai-chadhai khokcha muji...ani ke ghantako unslaveable??..machikni, british, dhoti haruko jutta polish garne haruma no. one ma timiharu ta chhau ni chikne..ani ke tactics ko kura garchas oye??..indian army ma kaam nagareko bhaye bhok-bhokai morthyo hola tero bau bajeharu..in reality you rais/limbus are alchhi ko pokas and ghar agadi hagne haru
My motive is to serve Humanity.....so i am making movies about phoolan devi. she was a dalit and a dalit freedom fighter in india. very soon i will release this movie to ask nepalese to kick out indian culture out from nepal. throw away all indian trash back to india. we don't need indian caste system trash to ruin nepal. long live phoolan devi.
Nepal is a joke....Our systems sucks...Our people are very very very narrow minded...Alll everyone does is blame each other and is trying to divide the only country in Asia which has never been conqured.
If only kids where educated about our proud and rich history...instead the education system teaches kids to worship WHITE mofos!
Nepal was never a Hindu nation. Nepal only became a Hindu nation after Aryan Licchavis invaded Nepal in 330AD overthrowing Kirat dynasty. . They brought this caste system and built many Hindu temples in Kathmandu valley. Original Kirat temples such as Pashupathinath and Bal Mandir were converted to Hindu temple by the Licchavi king. Later in 14th century, Malla King officiated Indian Brahmin priest to officiate the Pashupathinath temple. The same Indian priest proclaimed Nepal as Hindu nation.
Good beginning to restore the human dignity to the Dalits. But the human help will go only to a certain distance in eradicating the problems of oppression and also in healing the psyche of the Dalits. As a Christian, I found the message of Jesus Christ the most effective and creative way not only for the Brahmins to treat every human being with dignity and respect, but also for every Dalits to have a self confidence as the child of God created equal with every other human being. wish u best!
Christianity are exploiting the dalits by converting them. Dalits on the other hands do not see that Hinduism became only bad after Vedic Aryan arrived in the Himalayas and mixed their vedic culture with the indigenous people religion and culture.
The "chatur-varna" did not existed in the Himalayas before. This system was brought by the Vedic Aryan and belongs to vedic culture.
You need to identify pre-vedic Hinduism(Kiratas religion and culture) before converting to Christians.
Nepal's pre-eminent sociologist, Professor Dor Bahadur Bista, asserted that, "of all the proverbial thirty-six caste and ethnic groups of Nepal, the Hindu caste system made the least impact on the Limbu. In part, this reflected not only their geographical distance from the seat of power in the capital city of Kathmandu but also their cultural independence." (Fatalism and Development, 1991)
This is how to distinguish Aryan races who started the caste system. The Aryan have middle eastern/arab/pakistani/afghani features which are distinguishable from Dravidian and Mongoloid features. These Aryan(people having middle eastern/arab/pakistani/afghani features) are also present in Nepal which are easily distinguishable from native Mongoloid people. These Aryan arrived in the Himalayas including Nepal bringing their culture along with them This is how the caste system arrive in Nepal.
actually aryans existed in north india only,shri ram was adressed as aryan or arya pur(son of aryan).aryans moved from asia to europe.not vice versa(proven by archeological evidence).caste system is biggest black spot on hinduism which is sad cuz it doesnt exist in the religios texts,the brahmins.(preist class has manipulared the system for their greed.its clearely stasted in bhagvatam."krishna says.i donot difrentiate between caste, color, or region or any living being they all come through me
The Vishnu Purano states that the chatur-varna or four class social system was absent in the Kirat Desh in the East and the Yavanas(Greek) and Kambojas(Iranian), etc. in the West.
Hence the chatur-varna or caste discrimination only came to exist in Nepal after the arrival of Aryan from Indian plains.
The term 'Nepal' is first found in 'Atharva Parishista' (4th Century B.C.).
The term 'Kirat Desh' or Kirat Country is found in the earlier documents.
In ancient Veda text, the Himalayan region extending from Himachal Pradesh in the west, Uttarakhand, Uttar Pradesh, Bihar, Nepal, Assam and Tripura in the east to Chittagong in the south was referred as the "Kirat Desh".
Kirat people in Nepal connection with Mongolia-China-Japan.
check the video "Connexion of Mongolia-Kirat:Revealing the Mystery of Origin of Phallus Stone Worship"
The relevant video of stone worshiping in Mongolia, existence of Sivaism in China and as far as Japan and comparing with that of stone worshiping by Kiratas in Nepal shows that the worshiping of stone originated from Mongol people and not Vedic Aryan.
The Kiratas are the Indo-Mongoloid people and are mentioned in Veda.
Who created this discrimination...? you fucking Bramin/chhetris ...your Bramin king!
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Yes! Blame Chhetris that fought against Indians, Chinise and British, same ppl who put country before anything ..If it weren't for those brave warriors(Chhetris you'd have some Tamil's dick up your ass.
Also
diliprai has no points or proofs to talk.He could not give any proof or could not give Sanskrit verses.Simply,he circling around claiming that he is researcher.
The Vishnu Purana mentioned that the "chatur-varna" or four class social system was absent among the Kiratas in Kiratdesa(Nepal) in the east and the Yavanas(Greek) and Kambojas(Iranian), etc. in the pashchima or west. (Vishnu Purana, 2.37).
The chatur-varna that ultimately resulted in caste discrimination hence entered Nepal after the arrival of Vedic Aryan (Licchavis) from northern India in around 300 AD.
The four group Magar, Gurung, Rai and Limbu were classified under Namasine(Unslavable) matawalis (liquor drinkers) in Muluki Ain (National Code of Nepal) of 1854 as qouted by J.B Rana "yo char matwali jaat sanga kharab na gara"!
The Muluki Ain (National Code of Nepal) of 1854 set by the Rana rulers prevented Tamangs from joining British-India-Army and any government jobs in Nepal, except as Pipa (porter) in Pipa Goswara office in Singha Durbar in Kathmandu. ~ Krishna B, Bhattachan, PhD
Another exmple, is how Lord Buddha born of Sakya family of Newar is incorporated by Vedic Aryan claiming him as 9th incarnation
of Vishnu, Aryan lord. Therefore folks learn to distinguish the true Hinduism. Hinduism only became bad after Vedic Aryan brought with them their "chatur-varna"(caste system) and mixed with the Kiratas religions and rewriting the myth.
Kirat religion based on Nature and Ancestors worship does not discriminate human beings,. You are all welcome to enter and pray Shiva.
Here's the excerpt from "Vedic Aryan entry into Nepal".
"The "Kiratas" of Western Himalayas had hundreds of fortresses and had to fight with the Vedic Aryans. The famous war between Kirati Emperor Sambara and King Divo-dasa is described even in the Rig-Veda. After the defeat of Kiratas, the Nishadhas were the main enemies of the Aryans. Aryans must have realized this and by accepting Kiratas Supreme God Lord Shiva as their own, developed friendly ties with the Kiratas."
Google "Vedic Aryan entry into Nepal" By Shiva Raj Shrestha "Malla"
and you know who was the earliest inhabitants in the Himalayas regions which was called Kirat Desh or land of Kirat which extended from Himachal Pradesh in the west, Nepal(central) to Tripura in the east and Chittagong(Bangladesh) in the south.
Bloody vedic aryans migrated into Kirat Desh including Nepal and brought with them their "chatur-varna" or caste system.
Shiva, generally considered a non-aryan deity, secured a prominent place among the Kiratas.
It can be roughly asserted that Shiva-worship might have begun among the Kiratas in the mountainous regions of the Himalaya in pre-Vedic times, before the advent of aryans.
Ancient communities of the Himalaya By Dinesh Prasad Saklani
"The clear conception of Siva arose in the Upanisadic age. Siva as been, for the first time, explicitly mentioned as the Aryan god in the Svetasvatara Upanisad in the background of Yoni-Linga relationship". There is never mention of Siva as Aryan god in Rig Veda, the oldest text of Aryan. ~Tribal roots of Hinduism By Shiv Kumar Tiwari
This is one example Kirat religion is incorporated into Veda but not before rewriting the myth by the creator Aryan and Brahmin.
There wasn't any discrimination nor caste system before the pre-vedic periods.
The natives of ancient india (Sakas, Naga, Kiratas, Hunas, etc) who were non-aryan worshiped nature,(serpents,trees,stones, etc) and ancestors, practiced animism and shamanism, believing in a their primeval ancestors Sumnima-Paruhang (Uma-Siva).
After aryan came in the natives god were adopted by aryan and religious practices modified for their own good and mythology re-written into their veda text.
don't worry my brothers and sisters, time have come now in nepal. the brahmins government in nepal cannot do any shit about this system anymore cause janajatis(indigenous) people have start to rise against these feudal rules and other atrocities ruling of nepal.
Christians are coming into Nepal and converting many Nepalis into Christians.
The problem do not lies with the Hinduism but because of the Vedic aryan who have mixed their culture and religion with the indigenous people's culture and religion.
The "chatur-varna" for instance were brought by the vedic aryan that have ultimately destroy the world's oldest religion and culture.
One need to identify the true meaning of Hinduism and one's tradition.
The treatment of the untouchables is the result of an ancient invasion and conquest of the people now living in what is now India by a group of Aryan people remotely related to Europeans. Every group of people who have been conquered receive harsh treatment. This social structure became institutionalized and eventually became part of the Hindu religion. The original inhabitants of what is now India were darker(Dravidian) than the invaders.
India have always been eyeing Nepal isn't it. India claim Buddha as theirs, Lord Shiva and other Hindu God also as theirs but the truth is that the origin of hindu gods existed during pre-vedic times and this culture and religion was practiced by Sakas, Naga, Kiratas, Hunas who were all natives of ancient india and were non-aryan. The Aryan came, invented caste system and religious practices and customs which is known as Veda Hinduism today.
Nepalese government don't do shit about these things because 99% of Nepalese government officials are made up of Brahim caste, the same people who created this system and origniated from India.
REALLI DAmm DAHS DREAD...im actualli a brahim and i neva knew dis ...well personalli its kinda stupid having caste system...i think...it has been mistreated
now you know rasmi. that's why nepal is in deep shit hole right now. all thanks to your people who messed up Nepal. but you all still denied it don't you. If you look at the government post and other high ranking civil service post since the founding of modern Nepal by Shah, no indigenous people have ever hold any of the high government post.
Great work! Thank you for posting this docu-video. It's really shame that things like this still goes on & ignored by Nepalese Govt. Thanks again for posting.
@tensab do not think we r fools and not realize how this system took roots in nepal. every fool knows caste system was practised under hindu system. according to which people are divided on the basis of occupation. try to be a man and accept the fact. it sad but hindu discrimination exists in nepal not only against dalits but all non hindus in nepal. one simple example is we not allowed to eat beef in nepal because hindus worship cows but but y non hindus are not allowed . fuking ridiculous,
Nameless9635 4 weeks ago
its 21 century and nepal still struggling against caste system and hindu domination,
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MrTensab 8 months ago
The research is good and i respect your work but who the hell is that who is relating such caste system with HINDUISM. You have to learn about Hinduism first to make such statement. HINDUISM has nothing to do with such discrimination. It is only the lifestyle of people. So it is offensive to relate it with HINDUISM. try to edit your video and other your perspective of discrimination and Hinduism..........Nothing against Hinduism.....its only the oldest religion with lots of proof............
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thergbproductions 1 year ago
y do we even have caste system in nepal. we are not inmdia. these clever bahuns and chhetris made people dalit so they can always discriminate them. these bahun adn chhetris are just a piece of shit
yomamafool1 1 year ago
the cast thing is pretty stupid it was made to favour fat rich people, BUT people that live by this rule are only a small number.
the fact of the matters is that it will all come down to who is better at work, white brown black every person is different in this world and i would give any of these people jobs if i knew they could do the job.
this is the ONLY sad part to hindus, but they only have their history links through hindus Vedic,books
jimbob202019 1 year ago
I am aryan-looking nepali and i love the mongoloid looking nepalis. But irregardless of how nepalis look im still proud to be one coz we're more united than Singapore as we still share the same language(nepali) and religion(hindu).
lhoso 1 year ago
During the times of Gopal Dynasty, Nepal was part of India for 621 years. The first hindu King of the Gopal dynasty was Bhuktaman and he was selected by Ne-Muni (A muni is a Hindu sadhu/sage) to be the ruler of the Kathmandu valley. As a matter of fact Nepal is named after this Hindu sage "Ne". "Pal" comes from Sanskrit word pala which means protector. Ne-pal in etymology means "protected by Ne'. The last king of the Gopal Dynasty was Yakshya Gupta.
TheSerenityangel 1 year ago
@TheSerenityangel did you copy and paste from wiki???LOL this Indian are too much. We are no fools anymore. This myth was written by Brahmins in Nepal to hide Kirat Mongoloid civilization in Nepal. The same Brahmin wrote that former Shah King was a incarnation of Hindu God, Vishnu. LMAO!!! this is how crafty the Brahmins are. Neolithic tools found in the Kathmandu Valley indicated that people of Mongoloid ethnicity have been living in the Himalayan region for at least 10,000 years.
diliprai 1 year ago
@diliprai After sending me those stupid articles it must be hard for you to face the reality now. Nepal is nothing and will never be anything. Its just a dot on the world map.
TheSerenityangel 1 year ago
@TheSerenityangel do you know anything about the Gurkhas?? Google Gurkhas and Wiki will give you more about the Gurkhas in the British and even Indian army.
So don't say Nepal is nothing and will never be anything. Nepali society fail because the Aryan(ppl of middle eastern/arab/pakistani/afghani looks) has always been a Nepali government. This caste system was also created and started by Aryan Brahmins. BTW the Gurkhas are Mongoloid race.
TaMaGuRaLi 1 year ago
@diliprai You should be happy that at least I posted from Wiki which is a trusted and reliable source. Unlike you who are talking out of sheer fake pride and ignorance.
TheSerenityangel 1 year ago
@TheSerenityangel do you know how the term Nepal came to exist with valid and more accurate information. Well the term Nepal came to exist from 4th BCE. Before that the Himalayas region is recorded as Kiratdesh.
Suniti Kumar Chatterji, the Chairman of the Asiatic Society and a professor at the Calcutta University in India, has verified this historical fact that the term Nepal is derived from the Tibetan language Nebal meaning "a house of wool".
This makes more sense than Brahmin writing myth.
diliprai 1 year ago
@diliprai Go and check your so-called country's history on Wiki....It will surely shatter all your dreams.
TheSerenityangel 1 year ago
@TheSerenityangel Nepal early history are all written by Hindu King with the help of the Brahmin advisers. Don't you know that the victors always write the history. To erase the history and any remaining evidence of Kirat Mongoloid ciivlization the Brahmin made up all these fictitious story which is even taught in Nepali class. The New Constitution of Nepal have already recognized Yele Sambat in honor of first Kirat King Yalambar. Google Yele Sambat and you know the rest Indian Brahmin.
diliprai 1 year ago
@diliprai Talk to me when you re-write your History.
TheSerenityangel 1 year ago
@TheSerenityangel it's good that Nepal have kicked out Indian Brahmin from Pashupathinath Temple. The Brahmin looted million of rupees meant for temple every day ignoring the plight of temples. These Brahmin are racist because they don't allowed the dalits to enter the temple.
The Brahmins are the real low caste and pollutants of the society.
diliprai 1 year ago
@diliprai Nepal is nothing but a spot on the World map. You Gorkhas come begging to us for jobs and we recruit you as waiters or security guards. That's what your social status is in the world. Remember That!
TheSerenityangel 1 year ago
@TheSerenityangel hey Indian Brahmin. The indigenous people of Nepal used to eat beef and are NOT Hindus. The native of the Himalayas are the Mongoloid race who are referred as Kiratas per the Vedic books. But after the Brahmin migrated into the Himalayas including Nepal, they brought this caste system
to divide and rule the Kiratas. They also forbid the Kiratas to eat beef. watch this video --> "Indigenous People of Nepal"
&
"Kiratas:the Himalayas Race"
diliprai 1 year ago
@TheSerenityangel
DooD i really pity you and your silly proudness that ure showing about Nepal and gurkhas, is dispiseful . You re just being 1 sided from there. that is what you say in india that we come begging ,
but u have no idea that the nepalese do say the same thing in even a better way , 'Dhoti lado chus' . U cant goggle that because its not in proper english lang.
People with that Thinking and intention, just like you , destorys what s left of Good
in a community, Fuck you .
ugescliff 1 year ago
@ugescliff Fuck you mother fucker. People like you get all flamed up when you hear the truth. Some jerks here are disrespecting my community and religion so I am bound to answer them, if you can't take it then fuck off.
TheSerenityangel 1 year ago
@TheSerenityangel i hate King Birendra Shah. In an attempt to induce caste system among the Kiratis, in the coronation ceremony of his Majesty King Birendra, in 1975, a Limbu was nominated as a Shudra, and a Shrestha as a Vaishya. Subsequently, some Brahmin priests initiated four boys from Rais into Chettri status in total contradiction with the earlier act of treating Limbu. This is a good example of how the Hindu rulers with the help of Brahmin advisors tried to divide Kirat.
diliprai 1 year ago
@diliprai you are racist for your anti anyone else but Mongol-kiratism. BUT you are totally unable to distinguish from what is Kirat and what is Hindu. Also those brahmins are reinstated no less because the people of Nepal did not accept such a ruling without thier consultation. Nepali Indo Aryans are 50% of that country so quit with your double standards. The only decent Nepalis are those like Lhoso who see beyond race, yet you continue to contradict your statementd by playing the race card.
kumarsa108 10 months ago
@kumarsa108 brother now you know why nepal fail as a nation even in the 21st century.
Nepal politics has been dominated and run by 2 group pf people -Brahmin(in nepali bahun)
and Kshatriya(in nepali chettri).
To make matter worse, the brahmins has been looting motherland Nepal since last 2 decade. watch this news from Nepal --> Chiranjibi Wagle sent to jail
This is a typical good example of brahmins engaging in corruption.
diliprai 10 months ago
@diliprai yeah and it never succeeded as a kirat nation either. Your logic is twisted always blaiming others. You are trying to claim that everything is the fault of the wiley Aryan brahmins and therefore without realising it are suggesting that Kirata were too dim to maintain a nation. Ofcourse if it was not for the Gorkas (non kirata Hindus) Nepal would be non-existant, but an indian state. Yes caste discrimination is wrong, but so is any form of negative discrimination including yours.
kumarsa108 10 months ago
@kumarsa108 i agree with you bro. That's why all Kirat must unify in order to bring Kiratdesh(now Nepal) forward. Nepal couldn't be develop because the Kiratas did not unify as ONE. Kirat people divide themselves as rai, limbu, grg, magar, newar, chhantyal, dhimal, thami, sunuwar, yakkha and so on.
How can Nepal develop when Kiratas do not unite? You are absolutely right that all Kirat or Kiratas must unify as ONE. Also Kirat must start engaging in Nepali politics and government. You are right.
diliprai 10 months ago
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MrNepaltrekkingguide 1 year ago
For Nepal's identity an Unity in Diversity. Hope New Nepal will bring good changes for bright future of Nepal.
MrNepaltrekkingguide 1 year ago
Dilli Rai is very very right. I hope Nepal will get rid out from Caste Descriminatons & Hindu Religion Dogmatics.
MrNepaltrekkingguide 1 year ago
@MrNepaltrekkingguide it would be hard to get rid of this system for awhile because more than 90% in Nepal politics and government are made up of Aryan(people having eastern/arab/pakistani/afghani looks), the same people who invented this caste system in the early time. This is prevalent in Aryan society and is common practice to them.
diliprai 1 year ago
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I am from Kirat tribe. The caste system was created by vedic Aryan especially Brahmins. In Rig Veda book, dating 2000BCE, it is mentioned that Kiratas fought against this system but Kiratas lost the war and so this system has been in existence since.
Mail me if you want to know more.
diliprai 1 year ago
ashhole, who asked Bramin/chhetris to fight for nepal? the truth is they destroyed our ethnicity. And now time has come, we (federal states) gonna fuck Bramin/chhetris psycho Brain!!!
lad09ful 2 years ago
This is how to distinguish Aryan races. Well the Aryan have middle eastern/arab/pakistani/afghani features which are distinguishable from Dravidian and Mongoloid features. These Aryan(people having middle eastern/arab/pakistani/afghani features) are also present in Nepal which are easily distinguishable from native Mongoloid people. These Aryan arrived in the Himalayas including Nepal bringing their culture(caste-system & Hinduism with them).
Before that Nepal did not have such system.
TaMaGuRaLi 1 year ago
the reason kirat ppl were called uncivilized was because they were.they were still living in tribes nd tribal wear while aryans had established soofisticated canal systems nd kjingdoms.
TIgeracademy 1 year ago
@TIgeracademy you are wrong my friend.
There are new published documents with ample evidence pertaining to Kirat being the first to open up human civilization in the Kathmandu valley are available. You can read some of these for better clarification and knowledge.
Temples of the Nepal valley, 2009
The brick and the bull: an account of Handigaun, the ancient capital of Nepal, 2002
The ancient settlements of the Kathmandu Valley, 2001
All these books are by professor Sudarshan Raj Tiwari.
TaMaGuRaLi 1 year ago
Magar-Gurung-Rai-Limbu(MaGuRaLi) instead of becoming mercenary for the British army must now start thinking about how to run Nepal. Remember MaGuRaLi according to Muluki Ain(national code) of Nepal made by ruler J.B Rana are classified as "namasine"(unslaveable). So J.B Rana and his government allowed the British to recruit MaGuRaLi as the Gurkhas in the British-Indian Army. It was a very clever tactics by Rana government. The main reason was to let MaGuRaLi fight and died in foreign land.
diliprai 10 months ago
@diliprai
ke mercenary for the british army bhanchas oye?? kati jana cha ra tyaha mercenaryharu..salaa bhadwaa...2700 jana ko fauj lai 1 lakh ko jasto badhai-chadhai khokcha muji...ani ke ghantako unslaveable??..machikni, british, dhoti haruko jutta polish garne haruma no. one ma timiharu ta chhau ni chikne..ani ke tactics ko kura garchas oye??..indian army ma kaam nagareko bhaye bhok-bhokai morthyo hola tero bau bajeharu..in reality you rais/limbus are alchhi ko pokas and ghar agadi hagne haru
TheChillytown 5 days ago
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@TheChillytown
My motive is to serve Humanity.....so i am making movies about phoolan devi. she was a dalit and a dalit freedom fighter in india. very soon i will release this movie to ask nepalese to kick out indian culture out from nepal. throw away all indian trash back to india. we don't need indian caste system trash to ruin nepal. long live phoolan devi.
diliprai 3 days ago
Nepal is a joke....Our systems sucks...Our people are very very very narrow minded...Alll everyone does is blame each other and is trying to divide the only country in Asia which has never been conqured.
If only kids where educated about our proud and rich history...instead the education system teaches kids to worship WHITE mofos!
1henameless 2 years ago
wtf his english is very poor
bang334 2 years ago
Nepal was never a Hindu nation. Nepal only became a Hindu nation after Aryan Licchavis invaded Nepal in 330AD overthrowing Kirat dynasty. . They brought this caste system and built many Hindu temples in Kathmandu valley. Original Kirat temples such as Pashupathinath and Bal Mandir were converted to Hindu temple by the Licchavi king. Later in 14th century, Malla King officiated Indian Brahmin priest to officiate the Pashupathinath temple. The same Indian priest proclaimed Nepal as Hindu nation.
diliprai 1 year ago
Good beginning to restore the human dignity to the Dalits. But the human help will go only to a certain distance in eradicating the problems of oppression and also in healing the psyche of the Dalits. As a Christian, I found the message of Jesus Christ the most effective and creative way not only for the Brahmins to treat every human being with dignity and respect, but also for every Dalits to have a self confidence as the child of God created equal with every other human being. wish u best!
brbhatta 2 years ago
Christianity are exploiting the dalits by converting them. Dalits on the other hands do not see that Hinduism became only bad after Vedic Aryan arrived in the Himalayas and mixed their vedic culture with the indigenous people religion and culture.
The "chatur-varna" did not existed in the Himalayas before. This system was brought by the Vedic Aryan and belongs to vedic culture.
You need to identify pre-vedic Hinduism(Kiratas religion and culture) before converting to Christians.
diliprai 2 years ago
Nepal's pre-eminent sociologist, Professor Dor Bahadur Bista, asserted that, "of all the proverbial thirty-six caste and ethnic groups of Nepal, the Hindu caste system made the least impact on the Limbu. In part, this reflected not only their geographical distance from the seat of power in the capital city of Kathmandu but also their cultural independence." (Fatalism and Development, 1991)
diliprai 2 years ago
This is how to distinguish Aryan races who started the caste system. The Aryan have middle eastern/arab/pakistani/afghani features which are distinguishable from Dravidian and Mongoloid features. These Aryan(people having middle eastern/arab/pakistani/afghani features) are also present in Nepal which are easily distinguishable from native Mongoloid people. These Aryan arrived in the Himalayas including Nepal bringing their culture along with them This is how the caste system arrive in Nepal.
TaMaGuRaLi 1 year ago
actually aryans existed in north india only,shri ram was adressed as aryan or arya pur(son of aryan).aryans moved from asia to europe.not vice versa(proven by archeological evidence).caste system is biggest black spot on hinduism which is sad cuz it doesnt exist in the religios texts,the brahmins.(preist class has manipulared the system for their greed.its clearely stasted in bhagvatam."krishna says.i donot difrentiate between caste, color, or region or any living being they all come through me
TIgeracademy 1 year ago
The Vishnu Purano states that the chatur-varna or four class social system was absent in the Kirat Desh in the East and the Yavanas(Greek) and Kambojas(Iranian), etc. in the West.
Hence the chatur-varna or caste discrimination only came to exist in Nepal after the arrival of Aryan from Indian plains.
diliprai 2 years ago
you f...king Bramin, PHD ha? keep your PHD to yourself.
you are obviously selling the domestic story to the foreigners and getting lots of money out of it!
you know everything ha? about Gurkhas, caste..! Keep you education and knowledge to yourself and don't try to expose to others.
Who created this discrimination...? you fucking Bramin/chhetris ...your Bramin king!
they ruined Nepalese by bringing division on their communities.
lad09ful 2 years ago
The term 'Nepal' is first found in 'Atharva Parishista' (4th Century B.C.).
The term 'Kirat Desh' or Kirat Country is found in the earlier documents.
In ancient Veda text, the Himalayan region extending from Himachal Pradesh in the west, Uttarakhand, Uttar Pradesh, Bihar, Nepal, Assam and Tripura in the east to Chittagong in the south was referred as the "Kirat Desh".
diliprai 2 years ago
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Kirat people in Nepal connection with Mongolia-China-Japan.
check the video "Connexion of Mongolia-Kirat:Revealing the Mystery of Origin of Phallus Stone Worship"
The relevant video of stone worshiping in Mongolia, existence of Sivaism in China and as far as Japan and comparing with that of stone worshiping by Kiratas in Nepal shows that the worshiping of stone originated from Mongol people and not Vedic Aryan.
The Kiratas are the Indo-Mongoloid people and are mentioned in Veda.
diliprai 2 years ago
Who created this discrimination...? you fucking Bramin/chhetris ...your Bramin king!
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Yes! Blame Chhetris that fought against Indians, Chinise and British, same ppl who put country before anything ..If it weren't for those brave warriors(Chhetris you'd have some Tamil's dick up your ass.
Also
diliprai has no points or proofs to talk.He could not give any proof or could not give Sanskrit verses.Simply,he circling around claiming that he is researcher.
1henameless 2 years ago
@1henameless,
The Vishnu Purana mentioned that the "chatur-varna" or four class social system was absent among the Kiratas in Kiratdesa(Nepal) in the east and the Yavanas(Greek) and Kambojas(Iranian), etc. in the pashchima or west. (Vishnu Purana, 2.37).
The chatur-varna that ultimately resulted in caste discrimination hence entered Nepal after the arrival of Vedic Aryan (Licchavis) from northern India in around 300 AD.
So blame your ancestors son!!
diliprai 1 year ago
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I do not know what actually he is researching. But,he can opt to write better novels.Definitely he will shine!
1henameless 2 years ago
The four group Magar, Gurung, Rai and Limbu were classified under Namasine(Unslavable) matawalis (liquor drinkers) in Muluki Ain (National Code of Nepal) of 1854 as qouted by J.B Rana "yo char matwali jaat sanga kharab na gara"!
The Muluki Ain (National Code of Nepal) of 1854 set by the Rana rulers prevented Tamangs from joining British-India-Army and any government jobs in Nepal, except as Pipa (porter) in Pipa Goswara office in Singha Durbar in Kathmandu. ~ Krishna B, Bhattachan, PhD
diliprai 2 years ago
Another exmple, is how Lord Buddha born of Sakya family of Newar is incorporated by Vedic Aryan claiming him as 9th incarnation
of Vishnu, Aryan lord. Therefore folks learn to distinguish the true Hinduism. Hinduism only became bad after Vedic Aryan brought with them their "chatur-varna"(caste system) and mixed with the Kiratas religions and rewriting the myth.
Kirat religion based on Nature and Ancestors worship does not discriminate human beings,. You are all welcome to enter and pray Shiva.
diliprai 2 years ago
This is one example.
Here's the excerpt from "Vedic Aryan entry into Nepal".
"The "Kiratas" of Western Himalayas had hundreds of fortresses and had to fight with the Vedic Aryans. The famous war between Kirati Emperor Sambara and King Divo-dasa is described even in the Rig-Veda. After the defeat of Kiratas, the Nishadhas were the main enemies of the Aryans. Aryans must have realized this and by accepting Kiratas Supreme God Lord Shiva as their own, developed friendly ties with the Kiratas."
diliprai 2 years ago
Google "Vedic Aryan entry into Nepal" By Shiva Raj Shrestha "Malla"
and you know who was the earliest inhabitants in the Himalayas regions which was called Kirat Desh or land of Kirat which extended from Himachal Pradesh in the west, Nepal(central) to Tripura in the east and Chittagong(Bangladesh) in the south.
Bloody vedic aryans migrated into Kirat Desh including Nepal and brought with them their "chatur-varna" or caste system.
diliprai 2 years ago
To see the true beauty of Nepal, type "Namaste(greetings) from Nepal" into youtube search key.
diliprai 2 years ago
Shiva, generally considered a non-aryan deity, secured a prominent place among the Kiratas.
It can be roughly asserted that Shiva-worship might have begun among the Kiratas in the mountainous regions of the Himalaya in pre-Vedic times, before the advent of aryans.
Ancient communities of the Himalaya By Dinesh Prasad Saklani
diliprai 2 years ago
"The clear conception of Siva arose in the Upanisadic age. Siva as been, for the first time, explicitly mentioned as the Aryan god in the Svetasvatara Upanisad in the background of Yoni-Linga relationship". There is never mention of Siva as Aryan god in Rig Veda, the oldest text of Aryan. ~Tribal roots of Hinduism By Shiv Kumar Tiwari
This is one example Kirat religion is incorporated into Veda but not before rewriting the myth by the creator Aryan and Brahmin.
diliprai 2 years ago
This is ridiculous when these dalits are even barred from going into Lord Shiva temple.
Shiva is also known as Kirateswor=Lord of Kiratas in ancient veda scriptures.
The problem is not with the HINDUISM but with the Vedic Hinduism. Vedic Hinduism is created by aryan/brahmin after adopting native
HINDUISM, modified the practices and its mythology re-written into their veda text for their own good.
Lord Shiva never discriminate his own creations but blesses anyone who worship him.
diliprai 2 years ago 2
There wasn't any discrimination nor caste system before the pre-vedic periods.
The natives of ancient india (Sakas, Naga, Kiratas, Hunas, etc) who were non-aryan worshiped nature,(serpents,trees,stones, etc) and ancestors, practiced animism and shamanism, believing in a their primeval ancestors Sumnima-Paruhang (Uma-Siva).
After aryan came in the natives god were adopted by aryan and religious practices modified for their own good and mythology re-written into their veda text.
diliprai 2 years ago 2
don't worry my brothers and sisters, time have come now in nepal. the brahmins government in nepal cannot do any shit about this system anymore cause janajatis(indigenous) people have start to rise against these feudal rules and other atrocities ruling of nepal.
Jai New Nepal
diliprai 2 years ago
the socity is the problem in nepal
rabi22 3 years ago
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Christians are coming into Nepal and converting many Nepalis into Christians.
The problem do not lies with the Hinduism but because of the Vedic aryan who have mixed their culture and religion with the indigenous people's culture and religion.
The "chatur-varna" for instance were brought by the vedic aryan that have ultimately destroy the world's oldest religion and culture.
One need to identify the true meaning of Hinduism and one's tradition.
TaMaGuRaLi 2 years ago 2
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The treatment of the untouchables is the result of an ancient invasion and conquest of the people now living in what is now India by a group of Aryan people remotely related to Europeans. Every group of people who have been conquered receive harsh treatment. This social structure became institutionalized and eventually became part of the Hindu religion. The original inhabitants of what is now India were darker(Dravidian) than the invaders.
Hence in Indian festival "light overcame
diliprai 2 years ago
if tibet independece,
sorry,nepal will be swallowed by india
penlei00cn 3 years ago
nobody can digest nepal
hst99999 3 years ago 3
what the fuck Nepal will be swallowed by india.??
India have always been eyeing Nepal isn't it. India claim Buddha as theirs, Lord Shiva and other Hindu God also as theirs but the truth is that the origin of hindu gods existed during pre-vedic times and this culture and religion was practiced by Sakas, Naga, Kiratas, Hunas who were all natives of ancient india and were non-aryan. The Aryan came, invented caste system and religious practices and customs which is known as Veda Hinduism today.
diliprai 2 years ago 2
God Bless Our Nepal, United We Shall Stand And Contribute To Our Economic Development.
yamaraj147 3 years ago 5
Nepalese government don't do shit about these things because 99% of Nepalese government officials are made up of Brahim caste, the same people who created this system and origniated from India.
diliprai 4 years ago 2
REALLI DAmm DAHS DREAD...im actualli a brahim and i neva knew dis ...well personalli its kinda stupid having caste system...i think...it has been mistreated
rasmi123456 3 years ago
now you know rasmi. that's why nepal is in deep shit hole right now. all thanks to your people who messed up Nepal. but you all still denied it don't you. If you look at the government post and other high ranking civil service post since the founding of modern Nepal by Shah, no indigenous people have ever hold any of the high government post.
That's why people are demanding now.
diliprai 2 years ago
dilipji ur are 100% right
bikdali 2 years ago
Non dalits should be burnt alive........
diliprai 4 years ago
touching! keep it up bro
inatesttube 4 years ago
Great work! Thank you for posting this docu-video. It's really shame that things like this still goes on & ignored by Nepalese Govt. Thanks again for posting.
akgrzly 4 years ago
Dada its really great job . keep it up. if you need any help from my side I am always with you.
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sanokanchha 4 years ago