Regardless of what the Soviets say, I think its pretty obvious that at SOME level they used the STG44 as the basis for the AK47, if you look at the early AK versions Mikhael submitted for trials, and then to the finished product, the STG44 was copied. Also, the breach block and the way the barrel fits into it, is dam close to a copy of the MP44 even though the bolt lockign design is totally different, there are lots of other similiar features including appearence
When looking at the stg44, M16 and AK together, it's obvious that the m16 and AK copied the design - The US route was accuracy and ergonomics. The USSR design was firepower and simplicity.
Well, if Gemans did any work, it looks more like a diversion than help, after all it took around 12 (over 15, if the original competition is taken in acccount) years to make AK what it was intended to and start production of AKM.
Some Russians are ironic about Kalashnikov being all original in his work, he borrowed heavily, but from his fellow constructor Bulkin not Germans. Also not like it was one man's project, there was large competition and AK was in service along with SKS for a while.
P.S. Oh one more thin. Russians will also say Germans borrowed heavily from Soviet automatic rifles of late 1930's - early 1940's, in the first place, as Germans themselves failed to make sucessful automatic rifle until 1943... ehmm... OK, there was FG-42, but it's kinda exotic in that sence.
Ted, Good Video, I have read The Gun and agree that very, very unlikely that Mikael K came up with this on his own. As you stated, too much of a coincidence that the 2 are so much alike. In the book the Author says that the STG-44 developer, Hugo Schmeisser was captured and taken back to Russia. Amazing how cooperative and helpful someone can be after spending 5-10 yrs in a Soviet Gulag.
It is complete different weapons! They have a complete different cartridge. The AK-47 is chambered in 7.62x39mm, and the STG-44 in 7.92x33mm.Also, the AK action is a rotating bolt and the STG is a tilting bolt. Russians created AK by themselfs. Do not ever forget about it or lose a track of it out of your mind!
I'd say the similarities more or less prove that there was a strong influence but equally the differences appear to be the improvements of a later version so the differences kind of suggest an influence too.
The russians and the rest of the world copied from german military equipment when designing theirs. Rockets, jet planes, guns. Makes me wonder how far would have the germans pushed in technical aspects if they didn't lost the war.
@antikoerper256 YES and the Germans copy from Russians as well - like Panther aka T-34, G-43 aka SVT-40, tryed copy Katysha, but failed to undestand powder. If the Russia wasn't in wars so much it would be ahead of Germany. Today only Russia have Assault Rifle of 21 century - AN-94 Abakan.
@DinoPal the point was not which got adopted and which not, the point was its a 21century gun. Germany and America could have had those guns but then the soviet union collapsed and the military and politicians didnt see a point in still adapting them.
besides that, who cares about a "21 century gun"? apparently its not effective and cheap enought to replace a 60yo weapon system.
@cocojumb0 Germany and America could have had those guns - no they not. G11 is not capable to do what An-94 does, and inferior to even AR-15 ( do reserch) My point was that Russia's haters allways looking the ways to diminish inventions by saying they copy that and this while the Germans themself copy a lot from Russia. Can i say that STG-44 was influence by SVT-40? (gas system for example) Or CZ-858 to SKS? I know US copy AWACS from Russia.
Great vids i must say.... And may i ask, To your knowledge has the AK-47 or AKM ever been rechamber from 7.62x39, or was that only for the AK-74, Cheers..
Its so obvious the ak is a re engineered stg44. There should be no doubt in your mind, 44....47 and we all know the germans where unmatched in technology at the time.
It looks like the AK47 is really just an improved version of the STG44. Did the STG44 have the reputation for durability and reliability that the AK has??
@nzww2buff Can you please say how heavy the STG is (without the ammo ofc) by putting it on a weight measuring instrument, because on every web page they say different, sometimes its 5.4 kilograms with ammo, sometimes without.
Very cool vid. Very interesting similarities as well. Kalashnikov is a 2x hero of the Soviet Union. And I do think you are right about all the BS that was put out during Soviet times. Surely there was some outside influence on the design of the AK, but it's nothing the former Soviet Union, or probably Russia now, might admit to. Wouldn't surprise me a bit if they weren't taking captured German soldiers and questioning them about the MP44, ways to improve it and what German soldiers liked/didn't.
There is no denying that the shapes are similar. The cartridge was already in play since '43-ish(M43/7.62x39mm) so that meant the mag would have to be curved like it is to be reliable, it uses a rotating/M1 Garand (AK-47) style bolt instead of tilting bolt(STG-44), different receiver/trigger design(also copied from M1) instead of the STG-44 being VERY MUCH like a HK-91/G3 prototype. I think the overall idea, the M43 cartridge fit it perfectly, and it's the Soviet's take on the German design.
Almost all Soviet weapons were models designed from stolen western designs. the Soviets were masters of reverse engineering. Often they had the techical plans for Western weapons before those weapon systems were even deployed--through their fantastic network of spies. That is not to say that they lacked improved or unique features when they fielded these weapons. The end result was often a very viable system that was often made better for real world applications.
(continued from earlier) I can't say that there wasn't any captured kraut design influence, though, because Kalashnikov didn't start to go in this direction until after his subgun design was turned down, probably because it wasn't superior enough to what they had, or something. But yeah, in short, still looks to me like he (and probably others with him) simplified the hell out of the Tokarev rifle. What's interesting is the similarities between the mp44 and the cetme/g3.
I still maintain that the ak is mechanically more similar to the svt-40 (excepting the trigger, which kalashnikov admitted openly of it being inspired by the garand), though obviously a hell of a lot simpler. It was also common to have a mid mounted rear sight on most rifles of the day. As to the ammunition similarities, I believe both were finalized in '43, making copying fairly unlikely. In the end, semi-auto rifles of the day either had the gas system above the barrel, or below it.
Ah, the Russians will always be full of shit. It's always been painfully obvious they copied off the 44. Only stanch fanboys, and Russian assholes can still deny it. Great vid.
Hey Ted, another reason why I think they might've taken off that old spike or knife bayonet is because of weight. I have a spike bayonet that I put back on my my Type 56 Carbine, to make it better looking cause the guy before me had taken it off, and I noticed more weight and the weapon then felt kinda unbalanced. Just considering the average build of a VC or NVA troop, that extra weight could've meant a lot. Just thought id add that, love the new channel brother!
I'm certain that Kalashnikov borrowed the safety lever design from the Remington Model 8. It's nearly identical and I don't think can be chalked up to coincidence.
When you get your FG42, have a look at the internals on that. They are surprisingly similar to the EM1's and EM2's. It's no surprise that the Russian's captured a lot of MP44's in the East, in the West the British captured a lot of FG42's. The Americans already had the Garand which went on to become the M14. It's undeniable a lot of immediate post war weapons had their roots in Germany, who without doubt made some of the best systems of the war years.
Dear Ted, I can see ware your coming from with you wealth knowledge on firearms. But the the designs are more different than not. One the stg uses a tilting bolt action, whereas the ak uses a rotating bolt. Two the similarity in the length of the gas block can be explained by the cartridges, those are indeed very similar thus they have similar gas peaks. There are many other differences, and I don't want to sound mean, but I think you are wrong.
FYI designer and inventor of MP44 lived and worked in USSR right after WWII for several years. He died in 2 years after he return from Russia and left no documents what he was working on there.
@TheCrazyFinn They were imported in case of a war because they use your standard ammunition and magazines correct? East German rifles were also imported If i remember correctly.
@TheSouthernGentleman Yes, we had ~350,000 RK 62 type rifles for a reserve of 550,000 men, and so the Type-56's were to be distributed for the remaining reservists in case of a war. They were never used for active service, and are now going to be scrapped in unissued condition.
AK type rifles were also imported from DDR, as you said, and small numbers from East European countries.
@TheCrazyFinn I wonder if they would have needed any extra training with the rifles, since the RK 62 rifles have peep sites and the Type-56 and other imported rifles used leaf sites. Also, shame there being destroyed, it would have nice if they could have converted to semi-auto fire only and sold on the civilian market.
@TheSouthernGentleman Personally I found it quite easy to adjust to PKM sights, which are similar to AK sights, having first trained with an RK 62. Peep sights feel much more accurate, though.
I certainly wished, they'd sold the weapons. There are plenty of active reservists in Finland, who could use that type of weapon. Also a couple new armies in the Arab world, who might have been interested.
Nice vid bro ther are some things the same but if you look at the sks I think most of the ideas came from the sks alltho sher as shit Thay got outsiders idea to Thay would be stupid not to look at the enemy
Funny how the STG 44 bolt looks almost Identical to the SKS bolt, same looking hook system and everything... I guess there was no patent infrindgement to worry about then,
whats the purpose for all the "bumps" or raised bits on the receiver of the mp44 above the trigger and pistol grip. Does it house the mechanisms or is it just some sort of aesthetic?
Great video man, those type 56's are great versions of the AK, here in the states some of the best semi models are by Norinco and Polytech. I have a Type 56 S-2, and fit and finish are fantastic
Really interesting Vid i look forwerd to seeing more compare vids do you know if you will re up load the bren and the zb or bren and bar. Also on the Type 56 is there any difrance to the ak47 or is it a dircet copy.
hi ted, i have a quick question and ur the man to ask. what squad/section and platoon level tactics where different in the british and commonwealth nations whom there riflemen who where issued bolt actions rifles to there allies the americans with primarily semiautomatic weapons in the hands of there soldiers? it would seem to me the yanks had a tremendous advantaged with the average solider being apple to produce non interrupted rapid fire therefore being able to employ different squad tactics?
@condog321 Look up the "Mad Minute". Basically, British, and to my knowledge, Commonwealth soldiers were trained to fire at 15 rounds per minute with their bolt action lee-enfields, whilst keeping all their rounds hitting center mass. Most solders could fire at around 20-30 rounds per minute on average whilst hitting center mass. Ted's the man to ask, though, as my knowledge is fairly limited, but hopefully I've provided some insight for the time being.
@condog321 Infantry tactics is a huge subject. If it's any help the American infantry squad was normally 12 men with one BAR, the British section was between 8 to 10 men with one BREN, the German Gruppe varied a lot due to manning levels but was normally 10 men split into 2 Trupp's, one MG Trupp and one rifle Trupp. You can see the ratio of MG's to rifles in each nation, the advantage the Americans had would have been against fleeting targets.
Nice thing to see in my inbox on saturday morning, always look forward to see new vids, just quick question will you be using you old channe your main focus?
Regardless of what the Soviets say, I think its pretty obvious that at SOME level they used the STG44 as the basis for the AK47, if you look at the early AK versions Mikhael submitted for trials, and then to the finished product, the STG44 was copied. Also, the breach block and the way the barrel fits into it, is dam close to a copy of the MP44 even though the bolt lockign design is totally different, there are lots of other similiar features including appearence
duanescot 1 week ago
When looking at the stg44, M16 and AK together, it's obvious that the m16 and AK copied the design - The US route was accuracy and ergonomics. The USSR design was firepower and simplicity.
AssaultWeaponChannel 1 week ago
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AssaultWeaponChannel 1 week ago
Well, if Gemans did any work, it looks more like a diversion than help, after all it took around 12 (over 15, if the original competition is taken in acccount) years to make AK what it was intended to and start production of AKM.
Some Russians are ironic about Kalashnikov being all original in his work, he borrowed heavily, but from his fellow constructor Bulkin not Germans. Also not like it was one man's project, there was large competition and AK was in service along with SKS for a while.
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P.S. Oh one more thin. Russians will also say Germans borrowed heavily from Soviet automatic rifles of late 1930's - early 1940's, in the first place, as Germans themselves failed to make sucessful automatic rifle until 1943... ehmm... OK, there was FG-42, but it's kinda exotic in that sence.
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Watched a documentry saying that the trigger unit for the AK-47 was based on the M1Garands. Do you think its valid?--------Taaa
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JWnFL 3 weeks ago
Ted, Good Video, I have read The Gun and agree that very, very unlikely that Mikael K came up with this on his own. As you stated, too much of a coincidence that the 2 are so much alike. In the book the Author says that the STG-44 developer, Hugo Schmeisser was captured and taken back to Russia. Amazing how cooperative and helpful someone can be after spending 5-10 yrs in a Soviet Gulag.
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Optimus262 3 weeks ago
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Optimus262 3 weeks ago
It is complete different weapons! They have a complete different cartridge. The AK-47 is chambered in 7.62x39mm, and the STG-44 in 7.92x33mm.Also, the AK action is a rotating bolt and the STG is a tilting bolt. Russians created AK by themselfs. Do not ever forget about it or lose a track of it out of your mind!
Optimus262 3 weeks ago
From watching your video I've noticed quit a few similarities between the AK and the SKS. Have you considered looking at the SKS?
colddrake80 3 weeks ago
amazing story behind that ak-47. anzacs kick ass no matter where they go
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I'd say the similarities more or less prove that there was a strong influence but equally the differences appear to be the improvements of a later version so the differences kind of suggest an influence too.
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Twirlyhead 4 weeks ago
The russians and the rest of the world copied from german military equipment when designing theirs. Rockets, jet planes, guns. Makes me wonder how far would have the germans pushed in technical aspects if they didn't lost the war.
antikoerper256 4 weeks ago
@antikoerper256 YES and the Germans copy from Russians as well - like Panther aka T-34, G-43 aka SVT-40, tryed copy Katysha, but failed to undestand powder. If the Russia wasn't in wars so much it would be ahead of Germany. Today only Russia have Assault Rifle of 21 century - AN-94 Abakan.
DinoPal 3 weeks ago
@DinoPal G11 was a 21 century gun 30-40 years ago. although the recoil system on the abakan is a novelty i think.
cocojumb0 3 weeks ago
@cocojumb0 G11 was never adopted - FAIL. An-94 is battle proof with spetsnaz.
DinoPal 2 weeks ago
@DinoPal the point was not which got adopted and which not, the point was its a 21century gun. Germany and America could have had those guns but then the soviet union collapsed and the military and politicians didnt see a point in still adapting them.
besides that, who cares about a "21 century gun"? apparently its not effective and cheap enought to replace a 60yo weapon system.
cocojumb0 2 weeks ago
@cocojumb0 Germany and America could have had those guns - no they not. G11 is not capable to do what An-94 does, and inferior to even AR-15 ( do reserch) My point was that Russia's haters allways looking the ways to diminish inventions by saying they copy that and this while the Germans themself copy a lot from Russia. Can i say that STG-44 was influence by SVT-40? (gas system for example) Or CZ-858 to SKS? I know US copy AWACS from Russia.
DinoPal 2 weeks ago
Another fantastic vid, spot on! Thank you.
bellator11 1 month ago
Great vids i must say.... And may i ask, To your knowledge has the AK-47 or AKM ever been rechamber from 7.62x39, or was that only for the AK-74, Cheers..
ozoffroader 1 month ago
@ozoffroader The AK47 and AKM are chambered in 7.62x39 and always have been.
The AK74 is in 5.45x39
TaZ101SAGA 1 month ago
Its so obvious the ak is a re engineered stg44. There should be no doubt in your mind, 44....47 and we all know the germans where unmatched in technology at the time.
f0rumrr 1 month ago
It looks like the AK47 is really just an improved version of the STG44. Did the STG44 have the reputation for durability and reliability that the AK has??
curlybobz 1 month ago
what was the name off that author?
1234lukerr 1 month ago
@1234lukerr C.J Chivers.
nzww2buff 1 month ago
@nzww2buff thanks
1234lukerr 1 month ago
@nzww2buff Got the same book, a great read. But that cover was deemed too "evil" so now has a bland yellow one. Who is goddam surprised.
zhukie 3 weeks ago
@nzww2buff Can you please say how heavy the STG is (without the ammo ofc) by putting it on a weight measuring instrument, because on every web page they say different, sometimes its 5.4 kilograms with ammo, sometimes without.
PanterausfG 3 weeks ago
Very cool vid. Very interesting similarities as well. Kalashnikov is a 2x hero of the Soviet Union. And I do think you are right about all the BS that was put out during Soviet times. Surely there was some outside influence on the design of the AK, but it's nothing the former Soviet Union, or probably Russia now, might admit to. Wouldn't surprise me a bit if they weren't taking captured German soldiers and questioning them about the MP44, ways to improve it and what German soldiers liked/didn't.
MarshalZhukov 1 month ago
Love the reference to Stakhanov. This is what sets your channel apart from the vast majority of YTers.
kukuyeah 1 month ago
There is no denying that the shapes are similar. The cartridge was already in play since '43-ish(M43/7.62x39mm) so that meant the mag would have to be curved like it is to be reliable, it uses a rotating/M1 Garand (AK-47) style bolt instead of tilting bolt(STG-44), different receiver/trigger design(also copied from M1) instead of the STG-44 being VERY MUCH like a HK-91/G3 prototype. I think the overall idea, the M43 cartridge fit it perfectly, and it's the Soviet's take on the German design.
reeseman67 1 month ago
Almost all Soviet weapons were models designed from stolen western designs. the Soviets were masters of reverse engineering. Often they had the techical plans for Western weapons before those weapon systems were even deployed--through their fantastic network of spies. That is not to say that they lacked improved or unique features when they fielded these weapons. The end result was often a very viable system that was often made better for real world applications.
lamarama1 1 month ago
seems that he "borrowed" a few ideas from the Sturghewer, AND the SKS, at least Simonov hhad original ideas
timbo749 1 month ago
(continued from earlier) I can't say that there wasn't any captured kraut design influence, though, because Kalashnikov didn't start to go in this direction until after his subgun design was turned down, probably because it wasn't superior enough to what they had, or something. But yeah, in short, still looks to me like he (and probably others with him) simplified the hell out of the Tokarev rifle. What's interesting is the similarities between the mp44 and the cetme/g3.
AutomaticJerk 1 month ago
I still maintain that the ak is mechanically more similar to the svt-40 (excepting the trigger, which kalashnikov admitted openly of it being inspired by the garand), though obviously a hell of a lot simpler. It was also common to have a mid mounted rear sight on most rifles of the day. As to the ammunition similarities, I believe both were finalized in '43, making copying fairly unlikely. In the end, semi-auto rifles of the day either had the gas system above the barrel, or below it.
AutomaticJerk 1 month ago
Ah, the Russians will always be full of shit. It's always been painfully obvious they copied off the 44. Only stanch fanboys, and Russian assholes can still deny it. Great vid.
bisquik3006 1 month ago
Hey Ted, another reason why I think they might've taken off that old spike or knife bayonet is because of weight. I have a spike bayonet that I put back on my my Type 56 Carbine, to make it better looking cause the guy before me had taken it off, and I noticed more weight and the weapon then felt kinda unbalanced. Just considering the average build of a VC or NVA troop, that extra weight could've meant a lot. Just thought id add that, love the new channel brother!
TNMinuteMan 1 month ago
Whats the hole in the stock of the STG for?
whitfan27 1 month ago
I'm certain that Kalashnikov borrowed the safety lever design from the Remington Model 8. It's nearly identical and I don't think can be chalked up to coincidence.
sudaev 1 month ago
When you get your FG42, have a look at the internals on that. They are surprisingly similar to the EM1's and EM2's. It's no surprise that the Russian's captured a lot of MP44's in the East, in the West the British captured a lot of FG42's. The Americans already had the Garand which went on to become the M14. It's undeniable a lot of immediate post war weapons had their roots in Germany, who without doubt made some of the best systems of the war years.
cujomojo2007 1 month ago
the russians were pretty smart when it came to designing weapons with copies or not.. they are crafty buggers to say the least.
MattieTheBear 1 month ago
Gonna get that book.
ZEDZOR2 1 month ago
Though the Germans did initiate the introduction of the assault rifle to the battle field, the AK is the better design IMO.
the308capital 1 month ago
Dear Ted, I can see ware your coming from with you wealth knowledge on firearms. But the the designs are more different than not. One the stg uses a tilting bolt action, whereas the ak uses a rotating bolt. Two the similarity in the length of the gas block can be explained by the cartridges, those are indeed very similar thus they have similar gas peaks. There are many other differences, and I don't want to sound mean, but I think you are wrong.
joey3bc 1 month ago
FYI designer and inventor of MP44 lived and worked in USSR right after WWII for several years. He died in 2 years after he return from Russia and left no documents what he was working on there.
efrol1 1 month ago
Another great video Ted! I'm always happy to see a new one pop up:D
THE13EARJEW 1 month ago
FDF is about to scrap 100,000 Type 56's, not to sell them, but grind them to scrap metal. So sad... =\
TheCrazyFinn 1 month ago
@TheCrazyFinn They were imported in case of a war because they use your standard ammunition and magazines correct? East German rifles were also imported If i remember correctly.
TheSouthernGentleman 1 month ago
@TheSouthernGentleman Yes, we had ~350,000 RK 62 type rifles for a reserve of 550,000 men, and so the Type-56's were to be distributed for the remaining reservists in case of a war. They were never used for active service, and are now going to be scrapped in unissued condition.
AK type rifles were also imported from DDR, as you said, and small numbers from East European countries.
TheCrazyFinn 1 month ago
@TheCrazyFinn I wonder if they would have needed any extra training with the rifles, since the RK 62 rifles have peep sites and the Type-56 and other imported rifles used leaf sites. Also, shame there being destroyed, it would have nice if they could have converted to semi-auto fire only and sold on the civilian market.
TheSouthernGentleman 1 month ago
@TheSouthernGentleman Personally I found it quite easy to adjust to PKM sights, which are similar to AK sights, having first trained with an RK 62. Peep sights feel much more accurate, though.
I certainly wished, they'd sold the weapons. There are plenty of active reservists in Finland, who could use that type of weapon. Also a couple new armies in the Arab world, who might have been interested.
TheCrazyFinn 1 month ago
Nice vid bro ther are some things the same but if you look at the sks I think most of the ideas came from the sks alltho sher as shit Thay got outsiders idea to Thay would be stupid not to look at the enemy
mohawksniper79 1 month ago
you opened my eyes thanks for the video
hamcheesesalami 1 month ago
Funny how the STG 44 bolt looks almost Identical to the SKS bolt, same looking hook system and everything... I guess there was no patent infrindgement to worry about then,
Frob25 1 month ago
whats the purpose for all the "bumps" or raised bits on the receiver of the mp44 above the trigger and pistol grip. Does it house the mechanisms or is it just some sort of aesthetic?
dahartman88 1 month ago
Great video man, those type 56's are great versions of the AK, here in the states some of the best semi models are by Norinco and Polytech. I have a Type 56 S-2, and fit and finish are fantastic
brotherskeepers111 1 month ago
More interesting is comparisons between StG-44 and AR-15/M16
That dust cover, that upper/lower hinged receiver, recoil spring into stock, magazine well,
it's like StG-44 is a common ancestor to both AK and AR designs that both went different directions.
Treblaine 1 month ago
@Treblaine Indeed. The magazine release button is also quite similar.
voltagedrop 1 month ago
the AK has alot in common with the SVT 40 and SKS also
MrLongbranch303 1 month ago
Really interesting Vid i look forwerd to seeing more compare vids do you know if you will re up load the bren and the zb or bren and bar. Also on the Type 56 is there any difrance to the ak47 or is it a dircet copy.
topguntopcat 1 month ago
hi ted, i have a quick question and ur the man to ask. what squad/section and platoon level tactics where different in the british and commonwealth nations whom there riflemen who where issued bolt actions rifles to there allies the americans with primarily semiautomatic weapons in the hands of there soldiers? it would seem to me the yanks had a tremendous advantaged with the average solider being apple to produce non interrupted rapid fire therefore being able to employ different squad tactics?
condog321 1 month ago
@condog321 Sheeeesh - Big question, Mate. can I get back to you on that? Squad level tactics is a vid coming up in future.
nzww2buff 1 month ago
@nzww2buff awesome, looking forward to it
cheers
condog321 1 month ago
@nzww2buff great question and I look forward to the squad tactics video!
stander1983 1 month ago
@condog321 Look up the "Mad Minute". Basically, British, and to my knowledge, Commonwealth soldiers were trained to fire at 15 rounds per minute with their bolt action lee-enfields, whilst keeping all their rounds hitting center mass. Most solders could fire at around 20-30 rounds per minute on average whilst hitting center mass. Ted's the man to ask, though, as my knowledge is fairly limited, but hopefully I've provided some insight for the time being.
TheQuantumPotato 1 month ago
@condog321 Infantry tactics is a huge subject. If it's any help the American infantry squad was normally 12 men with one BAR, the British section was between 8 to 10 men with one BREN, the German Gruppe varied a lot due to manning levels but was normally 10 men split into 2 Trupp's, one MG Trupp and one rifle Trupp. You can see the ratio of MG's to rifles in each nation, the advantage the Americans had would have been against fleeting targets.
cujomojo2007 1 month ago
Hard to believe it was designed without any outside help.
By AK-47 i asume you mean high powered super tactical automatic sniper death machine?......Isn't that what all countries call it...oh just us... ;)
cam131313cam 1 month ago
@cam131313cam Yep. Just you wossy Australians. Harden up. :)
nzww2buff 1 month ago 2
@nzww2buff If only HA! don't you know us convicts are entirely too disreputable to be trusted by our own Govt lol
have to laugh otherwise you'd cry
zhukie 3 weeks ago
@cam131313cam Must be a commonwealth thing, thats the same name the anti's have come up for it here in Canada too.
Frob25 1 month ago
@cam131313cam Good one! That was the best example of how a liberal would describe an AK! Well done Sir.
the308capital 1 month ago
It has always been my belief that the AK came partly from the STG44 nice to see someone that thinks the same.
spartencamp 1 month ago
Reupload?
Coituz2323 1 month ago
@Coituz2323 Yes.
nzww2buff 1 month ago
Nice thing to see in my inbox on saturday morning, always look forward to see new vids, just quick question will you be using you old channe your main focus?
TheAlexagius 1 month ago
@TheAlexagius No. I chop out all the WW2 related stuff from the old channel as i upload it here.
nzww2buff 1 month ago
first! RON PAUL2012
KiwiTomCrawford 1 month ago