I know that the SDI out provides a 4:2:2 signal. So, is there a practical way of capturing 4:2:2 footage for editing purposes; which capture card could be used and recognized by Adobe CS5? Getting all the hardware and software working together...that's the trick, isn't it?
I also understand the 4:2:0 issue.. but at the end of the day, when broadcast, seeing the difference between that and 4:4:4 is not easy. I reckon it is all techno-babble. This camera shoots stunning images, good enough for 99% of applications for broadcast TV. Leave 4:4:4 to the BBC and David Attenborough. For the rest of us, its a huge waste of money. Just my thoughts
No XDCAM is the format. The XDCAM EX models are great as they use SxS cards, which are those memory cards that you are seeing slots for more and more in Laptops etc nowadays.
Other standards in the XDCAM area are IMX (MPEG), XDCAM HD and XDCAM HD422.
The recording profile for example for the XDCAM EX is quite similar to the XDCAM HD of the Sony PDW-700.
Even the EX models are capable of 4:2:2, contrary to what TVperson1 was implying.
4:2:2 is a ratio of chroma subsampling of the video and indicates the proportion of sampling of chroma in relation to luma in the component format (Y, Pb, Pr). Subsampling is directly related to chroma resolution and how much of it is available for Pb and Pr.
For 4 samples of Y (luma), there are 2 samples of Pb and 2 of Pr (chroma components).
4:2:0 (which is what DVD-Video uses) is similar to, but not exactly the same, as 4:1:1.
Sorry I was thinking that the sensor was rated for colour space rather than the processor.
I know that video is Y PB/Cb Pr/Cr and high end is RGB 4:4:4.
I don't see why Sony are not including 4:2:2 in their more affordable cameras with 50 Mbps mode. I would certainly consider this camera if it was 4:2:2.
Funny though, you loose colour when going from an NTSC DV tape to a DVD.
It may be due to economics (4:2:2 can be more expensive to implement not only in design, but also to the end-user because the higher bandwidth means less available recording time and more required storage space), though I agree that it would be nice if 4:2:2 can be made available in affordable cameras to allow that option.
As for DVD, consider its context; it's a home video format. There is little gain for the limited bandwidth to maintain close to 4:4:4 quality in NTSC or PAL for home viewing.
4:2:2 maintains quality very close to 4:4:4 while using only a 2/3 of the bandwidth.
However, there is still substantial bandwidth required for 4:2:2 and, for a DVD bitstream, the bandwidth that remains may not be enough for various features to be carried at the same time (multiple soundtracks, subtitles, and etc.) so 4:2:0 is used to further reduce the video bitrate to leave more bandwidth available for other content occupying the bitstream.
Sony do indeed do 422 HD Camcorders. One example that I have personally really enjoyed using is the SONY PDW-700. For the money they are excellent too. We have an ex demo one on our CVP website today.
if you want 422 for Chroma, then the Reflecmedia system is incredible.
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martinsbanaks12 3 months ago
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Where can I buy this Camcorder and what is the cost??? I am soooo interested
ayoitzadam 5 months ago
if you have a $10,000 HD camcorder why isn't the video in HD?
orion4mm 8 months ago
@orion4mm lol yeah.
Iquinin 8 months ago
@orion4mm its quite hard to film a camera with itself.
jimmyhoffa9 6 months ago
Dude what is the very suitable/Strong Tripod for this camera?
iDEBAYtv 1 year ago
I gotta get it!!!
TheUnforgivenDemon 1 year ago
i have 9000 dolars to buy a camera this one is my first option.....would you recomend another one with this amount of money? thankssssss
boscan 1 year ago
is this good for macro/micro shots of nature? In particular, bugs and birds. How is the zoom?
OneFabFisher 1 year ago
im interested in making short films. i dont know much about these giant cameras.
but i have so many ideas for a great movie and i want it to look like a professional movie like the one you see in the movies.
some one help me out please im only 17 and i cant afford much
joe31454 1 year ago
I know that the SDI out provides a 4:2:2 signal. So, is there a practical way of capturing 4:2:2 footage for editing purposes; which capture card could be used and recognized by Adobe CS5? Getting all the hardware and software working together...that's the trick, isn't it?
VideoGearHead 1 year ago
I just bought this camera at CVP :D
can not wait to get it in my hands :)
SimonHN 1 year ago
HELP: I need to buy a new tripod for my EX3, What do you suggest? (I have a budget of 500Euros)
neomaxstudios 1 year ago
I also understand the 4:2:0 issue.. but at the end of the day, when broadcast, seeing the difference between that and 4:4:4 is not easy. I reckon it is all techno-babble. This camera shoots stunning images, good enough for 99% of applications for broadcast TV. Leave 4:4:4 to the BBC and David Attenborough. For the rest of us, its a huge waste of money. Just my thoughts
4xforum 1 year ago
Except for green screen work where anything less than 4:4:4 dramatically reduces the quality of the key.
minclLess 1 year ago
OMG I wish I can buy one is nice but I still pretty happy with my FX-1 wich it has a real beatiful and sharp pics.
loco039 1 year ago
good review
LLALLIBOYPRODUCTIONS 2 years ago
This and the EX1 seem to be the most affordable that'll do full 1920x1080, not that 960x800 HDV stretched crap.
But I'm leaning towards the EX1 because I don't really need to remove the lens as I work mainly in the composting environment.
My question is; will the EX1 give me images which are as sharp as the EX3 and the PDW700?
bumtownv2 2 years ago
great video , great camera we are from brasil and we love your work...keep on rockin babe you shine through...
claudioagmfilho 2 years ago
i need a camera like this :((fuck
codrinnn 2 years ago
can you use a 35mm depth of field adapter on this, like what you have on the letus B4 Pro relay lens video and can you use the lens too. thanks
toms900 2 years ago
Great video. What do they retail at?
jonathankerrsmith 2 years ago
i think $8000 or £5000
pregnantnproud 2 years ago
.. when I say format, think; Codec
;)
CVPTV 2 years ago
does xdcam mean it uses a disc because the pdw-700 is xdcam right and it uses a disc
toms900 2 years ago
Hi, thanks for your question.
No XDCAM is the format. The XDCAM EX models are great as they use SxS cards, which are those memory cards that you are seeing slots for more and more in Laptops etc nowadays.
Other standards in the XDCAM area are IMX (MPEG), XDCAM HD and XDCAM HD422.
The recording profile for example for the XDCAM EX is quite similar to the XDCAM HD of the Sony PDW-700.
Even the EX models are capable of 4:2:2, contrary to what TVperson1 was implying.
Thanks :)
CVPTV 2 years ago
Do you mean that the image sensor is 4:2:2, because the specs say that the EX series records at 4:2:0?
TVperson1 2 years ago
That has nothing to do with the image sensor.
4:2:2 is a ratio of chroma subsampling of the video and indicates the proportion of sampling of chroma in relation to luma in the component format (Y, Pb, Pr). Subsampling is directly related to chroma resolution and how much of it is available for Pb and Pr.
For 4 samples of Y (luma), there are 2 samples of Pb and 2 of Pr (chroma components).
4:2:0 (which is what DVD-Video uses) is similar to, but not exactly the same, as 4:1:1.
Watcher3223 2 years ago
Sorry I was thinking that the sensor was rated for colour space rather than the processor.
I know that video is Y PB/Cb Pr/Cr and high end is RGB 4:4:4.
I don't see why Sony are not including 4:2:2 in their more affordable cameras with 50 Mbps mode. I would certainly consider this camera if it was 4:2:2.
Funny though, you loose colour when going from an NTSC DV tape to a DVD.
TVperson1 2 years ago
It may be due to economics (4:2:2 can be more expensive to implement not only in design, but also to the end-user because the higher bandwidth means less available recording time and more required storage space), though I agree that it would be nice if 4:2:2 can be made available in affordable cameras to allow that option.
As for DVD, consider its context; it's a home video format. There is little gain for the limited bandwidth to maintain close to 4:4:4 quality in NTSC or PAL for home viewing.
Watcher3223 2 years ago
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Watcher3223 2 years ago
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4:2:2 maintains quality very close to 4:4:4 while using only a 2/3 of the bandwidth.
However, there is still substantial bandwidth required for 4:2:2 and, for a DVD bitstream, the bandwidth that remains may not be enough for various features to be carried at the same time (multiple soundtracks, subtitles, and etc.) so 4:2:0 is used to further reduce the video bitrate to leave more bandwidth available for other content occupying the bitstream.
Watcher3223 2 years ago
@CVPTV What's the HDV port for and zebra?
AgentJuly19903 6 months ago
The discs used in disc-based XDCAM camcorders are what's known as Professional Disc, or PFD.
XDCAM is the name of a tapeless video system and, as CVPTV has said, various models of XDCAM equipment can also use SxS and/or SDHC flash ROM cards.
Watcher3223 2 years ago
The view finder LCD screen is a similar thing to the one on the Canon XL2
Why can't Sony make a 1080p 50Fps camera with 422 colour?
TVperson1 2 years ago
Hi. Thanks for your question.
Sony do indeed do 422 HD Camcorders. One example that I have personally really enjoyed using is the SONY PDW-700. For the money they are excellent too. We have an ex demo one on our CVP website today.
if you want 422 for Chroma, then the Reflecmedia system is incredible.
Thanks
Mic
CVPTV 2 years ago
The PDW 700 looks like a brilliant camera, but I wish it was closer to my price range.
TVperson1 2 years ago
What is the industry standard camera for a digital feature film?
kickdoeent 3 years ago
Cameras like the Sony 750 or 900, which are amazing cameras but they would be used with a pro 35 adapter so you could use 35mm film lenses.
lucatkinson 3 years ago
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CVPTV 3 years ago
Thanks for the help man
mahamza86 3 years ago