Fellini was so far ahead of his time. The sounds of nature recorded electronically, the bleak tower blocks of apartments, and of course the tragic outcome.....
@ranwnye haha I was wondering the same thing. And the question is how soon is "soon"? ... How soon is now? ... which reminds me of a great tune. :) Love this film!!!
Non credo si vada tanto lontano dalla verità quando si afferma che nella storia del cinema esistono due tipi di registi:Federico Fellini e poi tutti gli altri.
Yvonne Furneaux è di una bellezza assurda, probabilmente insieme a Romy Schneider, Lisa Gastoni e la Taylor...gli occhi (e non solo quelli) più belli del cinema..
Per GIBRANongay: Qualche volta, la notte, questoscurita, questo silenzio mi pesano. Temo la pace piu di ogni altra cosa, mi sembra sia soltanto lapparenza e che nasconda linferno. Pensa cosa vedranno i miei figli domani: il mondo sara meraviglioso, dicono. Ma da che punto di vista, se basta uno squillo di telefono ad annunciare la fine di tutto. (...)
Bisognerebbe vivere fuori dalle passioni, oltre i sentimenti, nellarmonia che ce nellopera darte riuscita. In quellordine incantato. Dovremmo riuscire ad amarci tanto, a vivere fuori del tempo, distaccati. Distaccati...
é propio cosi, il italiano e una lingua complessa e meravigliosa, tanto come queste film,che nostalgia di vedere a marcello, fellini e un grande di la cinematografa italiana.
'Don't be like me. Salvation doesn't lie within four walls. I'm too serious to be a dilettante and too much a dabbler to be a professional. Even the most miserable life is better than a sheltered existence in an organized society where everything is calculated and perfected.'
What is sweet life? having a lovely family? having a circle of educated ostentatious friends? being admirable by others?
well, the scene is one of the many critiques in italian society by fellini. the father falls ill and refuses to stay after marcello pleads him to. so it criticizes the role of fathers and highlights the inability to build a good a rapport with their child in italian society
But sex and love are the themes he uses to illustrate his broader ideas, and they are at the heart of almost every scene in this film. If he had wanted to say something merely about father/son relations he wouldn't have sent the old man home with a sexy young girl.
it's more ambigious that that. the theme is the decay in society. sex and love are used often to picture that decay as is religion, on 1 instance the father/son relation etc. stiener's character is prominent as well and he has nothing to do w/ sex and love. historical landmarks are shown throughout, contemporary morality doesn't measure up to the past
marcello's life is followed for 7 days to show that decay. sex and love are shown often but certainly not themes of the film
Steiner's function, I agree, is to show failure of society (but also high culture), but he also gives Marcello's girlfriend advice on love as does the blonde in the black cocktail dress and then, broadly, the old man who talks about "oriental" women. Sex themes are everywhere: writing gossip, the actress, the abused woman he takes down to the flooded apt., the sunbathers he hits on from the helicopter, his girlfriend's suicide attempt, the divorce party at the end -- it's everywhere.
E' un enorme piacere raccontare il cinema italiano attraverso questi film. Vivo a Helsinki e ieri ho avuto l'onore di parlare di Fellini in una conferenza, presentando i suoi film più belli. E dalla "Dolce Vita" ho mostrato proprio il clip del monologo finale di Steiner. Sono lieto che anche voi lo consideriate un momento di grande cinema in un film che è e rimarrà ineguagliabile. Grazie Maestro!!!
@Macsimus75 Ciao! Mi ha colpito molto il tuo commento! Apprezzo moltissimo che tu sia una delle poche persone che ama far conoscere il cinema italiano. Sei italiano? Mi piacerebbe moltissimo sapere com'è vivere in Finlandia. Come sei arrivato ad Helsinki? Grazie infinite e scusa il disturbo.
I've seen this movie at least 20 times, and each time, without fail, it almost makes me sick to vomiting--from the soulessness it subliminally expresses. Fellini is the ONLY film director who can make such things possible. His films possess a magic that has never been equalled.
You should go to the doctor, this film might be too complex for your understanding. Or else try and find more proper metaphors for whatever it is you're trying to say.
An insolent response, insolence75, that makes me wonder if the movie is beyond YOUR understanding. This movie exposes the emptiness and soullessness of the Marcello character (and others) in such a deep, relentless, and subliminal manner that if one DOESN'T respond viscerally, then perhaps he hasn't fully comprehended how much Fellini has communicated--and how great his art is.
Marcello's trouble's are but his father's inability to love him thus his admiration for Alain Cuny's character. I do not respond viscerally because the intellect comes first.
You judge films by your gut feelings I suggest you take an Alka Seltzer.
I dismiss your simple, pop psychology interpretation--and would only expect frivolous contentiousness from someone who decided to name themselves "insolence."
But perhaps you DO know something regarding the father character, if you see him as central. So allow me to ask for your opinion: What is your view on the "sudden illness" of the father after going home with the chorus girl? Was there an illness; what was it; or what happened to the father that the mood changed so much?
You attack me but then ask me to do your homework?
My refined and brilliant perspectives on cinema will never reconcile with your stomach-film-reactions.
Marcello was given the option to change, symbolized in the girl that calls for him at the end, but he chose to rejoin his "friends", as dead and putrid as the whale that makes them laugh.
I'm sure my comments filled your emptiness at least for a few hours. You should consider yourself very lucky.
I interpret the ending differently; his inability to even RECOGNIZE the girl (or comprehend what she's trying to communicate) demonstrates that he is so far from redemption that he can't even recognize its possibility.
I'll assume you have no answer to my question. No surprise.
My understanding of La Dolce Vita is perfect --and surpasses that of most who analyze such things. Not a brag, it just happens to be that I'm psychically in sync with Felinni on, at least, his earlier movies.
I imagine you spend your existence listening to Chopin, reading Dostoyevsky and watching La Dolce Vita.
What I cannot imagine is why you, a self-proclaimed Fellini-Connoisseur, would care for my opinion?
The health of the father is an element that was employed by Fellini to raise the stakes and transition into the core of the father-son relationship, as simple as that.
What else do you want me to comment upon? The clown from La Strada? The end of La notti di Cabiria?
You're right, asking your opinion is pointless beyond imagination. That you see the brief (and inconsequential) "illness" scene as "raising the stakes" demonstrates you have nothing to say on the issue.
The inclusion of the father character (similar in all respects to Fellini's own father) is nothing but a "personal byproduct" of his own--and plays no key part, beyond merely fitting the overall tone.
This is the best film of all time in my opinion. Life, death, career, purpose, religion, love, mentors, family, fame, and much more are discussed in this masterpiece.
I know this movie well but in watching this scene "distaccati" (detached) I noticed how it is built completely around sound. He uses music to detach the characters. The nature sounds, childrens', the two languages and the recordings. And to know what he will soon do with those children... One of the great films.
I have to buy the deluxe version of this on dvd. I have "Juliet of the Spirits" the first Fellini film I ever saw and I immediately fell in love with his work and style of films. I first saw "Giulietta" in 1990 that my English teacher had erased the first part with 1st season finale of "Twin Peaks" and I said,"This is a masterpiece, how could she have erased this!"
Fellini was so far ahead of his time. The sounds of nature recorded electronically, the bleak tower blocks of apartments, and of course the tragic outcome.....
MerleOberon 3 months ago
one of my favourite scenes too
Rapchaid 5 months ago
Awesome scene. Lot's of foreboding foreshadowing. Good choice.
georgelstein 9 months ago
How are those sub titles going? For the last 5 years.
ranwnye 9 months ago
@ranwnye haha I was wondering the same thing. And the question is how soon is "soon"? ... How soon is now? ... which reminds me of a great tune. :) Love this film!!!
1Catherine101 6 days ago
I'd like to review this film for cinema class but I wish I had English subtitles! I'm sure it's a great film though!
Agent1W 10 months ago
doesnt the sound of the language exquisite! makes you wanna rip your clothes off ..lol!
krispykream3 10 months ago
Es increible, a pesar de estar en blanco y negro, el colorido de este film. Colores invisibles que no hace falta verlos, se sienten.
Expresolosa 11 months ago
Alain Cuny who played Steiner is also in Fellini's Satyricon.
poetcomic1 1 year ago
★★★★★ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥
tearsinrain2 1 year ago
Ah, so sweet! What a little gem!
rubyshoes4 1 year ago
Steiner's character is just heartbreaking, and this movie, so bittersweet, not "dolce" in verità...
Hauntya 1 year ago 2
Non credo si vada tanto lontano dalla verità quando si afferma che nella storia del cinema esistono due tipi di registi:Federico Fellini e poi tutti gli altri.
Rudy5580 1 year ago 2
grandissimo! immortale! l'unico e vero Maestro!
pepperasta82 1 year ago
Yvonne Furneaux è di una bellezza assurda, probabilmente insieme a Romy Schneider, Lisa Gastoni e la Taylor...gli occhi (e non solo quelli) più belli del cinema..
lazios 2 years ago
qualcuno poù mi dire ché dice Steiner quando parla con marcelo in la stanza di ragazzi.
Io capisco: et la pace que mi fa paura, temo la pace più di oltre cosa... ma io no capisco il resto...
Grazie.
GIBRANongay 2 years ago
Per GIBRANongay: Qualche volta, la notte, questoscurita, questo silenzio mi pesano. Temo la pace piu di ogni altra cosa, mi sembra sia soltanto lapparenza e che nasconda linferno. Pensa cosa vedranno i miei figli domani: il mondo sara meraviglioso, dicono. Ma da che punto di vista, se basta uno squillo di telefono ad annunciare la fine di tutto. (...)
ferdinandovincenzoni 2 years ago
segue per Gibra
Bisognerebbe vivere fuori dalle passioni, oltre i sentimenti, nellarmonia che ce nellopera darte riuscita. In quellordine incantato. Dovremmo riuscire ad amarci tanto, a vivere fuori del tempo, distaccati. Distaccati...
ferdinandovincenzoni 2 years ago
fellini e el grandioso de tuta la cinematografia di mundi
jbaquinones 2 years ago
é propio cosi, il italiano e una lingua complessa e meravigliosa, tanto come queste film,che nostalgia di vedere a marcello, fellini e un grande di la cinematografa italiana.
pammorrinson 2 years ago 3
Già,comunque scrivi in un ottimo italiano
per essere dell'Equador, anche se la tua lingua madre ti aiuta.
sfenodonte 2 years ago
Grazie ma veramente sono cubana, e so che devo imparare meglio, peró l'inglese ed il francese mi rubano molto tempo nonostante mi sforzerò.
pammorrinson 2 years ago
Does anyone know who sings that version of 'He's Gone Away' which begins at about 3:16?
Kneesex 2 years ago
For all Rome and Fellini lovers in NYC come to our Journey to La Dolce Vita event. June 26 at Powerhouse Arena. Website coming up soon.
Journey2LaDolceVita 2 years ago 2
Listening to Italian is like listening to a symphony orchestra
rar555Naples 2 years ago 3
Steiner tells Marcello,
'Don't be like me. Salvation doesn't lie within four walls. I'm too serious to be a dilettante and too much a dabbler to be a professional. Even the most miserable life is better than a sheltered existence in an organized society where everything is calculated and perfected.'
What is sweet life? having a lovely family? having a circle of educated ostentatious friends? being admirable by others?
cocoatoast 2 years ago
psssssssssssssss!!!!!!!!!!! :O
chemkouv 2 years ago
isn't this an "oxymoron"? even the most miserable life is better than this? what does he mean? is he bored shitless?
richardmullins44 2 years ago
One good thing about speaking spanish is that I kinda understand what they say... but just a bit!!!
logan16wol 2 years ago
"What is your view on the "sudden illness" of the father after going home with the chorus girl?"
I was puzzled by that sudden illness... could I have some interpretation?
lordtomxv 3 years ago
well, the scene is one of the many critiques in italian society by fellini. the father falls ill and refuses to stay after marcello pleads him to. so it criticizes the role of fathers and highlights the inability to build a good a rapport with their child in italian society
milankiev7 3 years ago
i thouhgt it was obvious -- he couldn't get it up and was having a vision of age/death....
pillarosociety 2 years ago
haha...nothing like that at all. most if not all of fellini's films are social critiques. this one is no different
milankiev7 2 years ago
But sex and love are the themes he uses to illustrate his broader ideas, and they are at the heart of almost every scene in this film. If he had wanted to say something merely about father/son relations he wouldn't have sent the old man home with a sexy young girl.
pillarosociety 2 years ago
it's more ambigious that that. the theme is the decay in society. sex and love are used often to picture that decay as is religion, on 1 instance the father/son relation etc. stiener's character is prominent as well and he has nothing to do w/ sex and love. historical landmarks are shown throughout, contemporary morality doesn't measure up to the past
marcello's life is followed for 7 days to show that decay. sex and love are shown often but certainly not themes of the film
milankiev7 2 years ago
Steiner's function, I agree, is to show failure of society (but also high culture), but he also gives Marcello's girlfriend advice on love as does the blonde in the black cocktail dress and then, broadly, the old man who talks about "oriental" women. Sex themes are everywhere: writing gossip, the actress, the abused woman he takes down to the flooded apt., the sunbathers he hits on from the helicopter, his girlfriend's suicide attempt, the divorce party at the end -- it's everywhere.
pillarosociety 2 years ago
sure brings out our emotions, love it! My favorite scene is the ending with the hands in the air, ciao marcello.
sirimar53 3 years ago
help!! i need an english translation!!! :( someone help me???
iguanababy 3 years ago
Awesome... Italian is so sweet sounding
54spiritedwill54 3 years ago 11
@54spiritedwill54 not only in sounding...
007thelastlover 1 year ago
E' un enorme piacere raccontare il cinema italiano attraverso questi film. Vivo a Helsinki e ieri ho avuto l'onore di parlare di Fellini in una conferenza, presentando i suoi film più belli. E dalla "Dolce Vita" ho mostrato proprio il clip del monologo finale di Steiner. Sono lieto che anche voi lo consideriate un momento di grande cinema in un film che è e rimarrà ineguagliabile. Grazie Maestro!!!
Macsimus75 3 years ago 7
In English please!
cheatmaster3 3 years ago
@Macsimus75 Ciao! Mi ha colpito molto il tuo commento! Apprezzo moltissimo che tu sia una delle poche persone che ama far conoscere il cinema italiano. Sei italiano? Mi piacerebbe moltissimo sapere com'è vivere in Finlandia. Come sei arrivato ad Helsinki? Grazie infinite e scusa il disturbo.
MarcelloPecos 1 year ago
I've seen this movie at least 20 times, and each time, without fail, it almost makes me sick to vomiting--from the soulessness it subliminally expresses. Fellini is the ONLY film director who can make such things possible. His films possess a magic that has never been equalled.
GetMeThere1 3 years ago
La Dolce Vita makes you sick to vomiting?
You should go to the doctor, this film might be too complex for your understanding. Or else try and find more proper metaphors for whatever it is you're trying to say.
insolence75 3 years ago 4
An insolent response, insolence75, that makes me wonder if the movie is beyond YOUR understanding. This movie exposes the emptiness and soullessness of the Marcello character (and others) in such a deep, relentless, and subliminal manner that if one DOESN'T respond viscerally, then perhaps he hasn't fully comprehended how much Fellini has communicated--and how great his art is.
GetMeThere1 3 years ago
Marcello's trouble's are but his father's inability to love him thus his admiration for Alain Cuny's character. I do not respond viscerally because the intellect comes first.
You judge films by your gut feelings I suggest you take an Alka Seltzer.
insolence75 3 years ago
I dismiss your simple, pop psychology interpretation--and would only expect frivolous contentiousness from someone who decided to name themselves "insolence."
But perhaps you DO know something regarding the father character, if you see him as central. So allow me to ask for your opinion: What is your view on the "sudden illness" of the father after going home with the chorus girl? Was there an illness; what was it; or what happened to the father that the mood changed so much?
GetMeThere1 3 years ago
You attack me but then ask me to do your homework?
My refined and brilliant perspectives on cinema will never reconcile with your stomach-film-reactions.
Marcello was given the option to change, symbolized in the girl that calls for him at the end, but he chose to rejoin his "friends", as dead and putrid as the whale that makes them laugh.
I'm sure my comments filled your emptiness at least for a few hours. You should consider yourself very lucky.
insolence75 3 years ago
I interpret the ending differently; his inability to even RECOGNIZE the girl (or comprehend what she's trying to communicate) demonstrates that he is so far from redemption that he can't even recognize its possibility.
I'll assume you have no answer to my question. No surprise.
My understanding of La Dolce Vita is perfect --and surpasses that of most who analyze such things. Not a brag, it just happens to be that I'm psychically in sync with Felinni on, at least, his earlier movies.
GetMeThere1 3 years ago
Mr. PERFECT,
I imagine you spend your existence listening to Chopin, reading Dostoyevsky and watching La Dolce Vita.
What I cannot imagine is why you, a self-proclaimed Fellini-Connoisseur, would care for my opinion?
The health of the father is an element that was employed by Fellini to raise the stakes and transition into the core of the father-son relationship, as simple as that.
What else do you want me to comment upon? The clown from La Strada? The end of La notti di Cabiria?
insolence75 3 years ago
You're right, asking your opinion is pointless beyond imagination. That you see the brief (and inconsequential) "illness" scene as "raising the stakes" demonstrates you have nothing to say on the issue.
The inclusion of the father character (similar in all respects to Fellini's own father) is nothing but a "personal byproduct" of his own--and plays no key part, beyond merely fitting the overall tone.
Thanks for your comments. No more are required.
GetMeThere1 3 years ago
i'm agree with you
romarina 3 years ago
beware, the intellect should always come in a close second
jordanschunk 3 years ago
see the searchlights?
giles422 3 years ago
è meglio la vita più miserabile che un'esistenza protetta da una società organizzata, in cui tutto sia previsto, tutto sia perfetto
lyonsvt 3 years ago
Please !
can somebody complete this
"è meglio la vita [..] miserabile [...] che l'existenza [...], in une societa organizzata in cui tutto si è atrevisto, tutto perfetto"
tripotetherese 3 years ago
BEST FILM OF ALL TIME. NOTHING COMES CLOSE.
I am STEINER REDEEMED!
steinerredeemed 3 years ago
This is the best film of all time in my opinion. Life, death, career, purpose, religion, love, mentors, family, fame, and much more are discussed in this masterpiece.
DrSamuels305 3 years ago
Fellini the Master!
trueiopian 3 years ago
This is my favorite scene from my favorite movie! Thanks for postin.
DelilahDesmond 3 years ago
Ditto. Steiner kills me in this scene.
charlieemo 3 years ago
bella italia gratze
chestertouristcom 3 years ago
I love Emma
MerleOberon 4 years ago
I know this movie well but in watching this scene "distaccati" (detached) I noticed how it is built completely around sound. He uses music to detach the characters. The nature sounds, childrens', the two languages and the recordings. And to know what he will soon do with those children... One of the great films.
ikmarchini 4 years ago 2
Con esta pelicula me di cuenta que existian directores.
mastcap 4 years ago
Excelente Pelicula, Gratos Recuerdos! Gracias.
telasmexico 4 years ago
ke bello...*_*
zippo0410 4 years ago
I have to buy the deluxe version of this on dvd. I have "Juliet of the Spirits" the first Fellini film I ever saw and I immediately fell in love with his work and style of films. I first saw "Giulietta" in 1990 that my English teacher had erased the first part with 1st season finale of "Twin Peaks" and I said,"This is a masterpiece, how could she have erased this!"
bingbong35 4 years ago
One of my favourite scenes too. What software did you use to create this?
juliabarnum 5 years ago
Yes, a masterpiece. It's all...
umbgu 5 years ago
Se questo film è noioso, non avete capito niente di cinema.
arielnaif 5 years ago
A masterpiece. Great choice.
ChainGangPictures 5 years ago
Grazie, sayingly ! Questo film è stupendo....
Colombina1 5 years ago
This is a great movie and Marcello Mastroianni looks so beautiful here :)
Ember1983 5 years ago
With or without subtitles, however. Io no parlo Italiano, but it's ok.
BoxcarBertha 5 years ago
I'd like to see it with subtitles - heard about this movie, never seen it :) a masterpiece, right?
IBringNothing 5 years ago