i think its pretty amusing. all these people are all blah blah MMA, blah blah.. MMA isnt the test of a style, just the people involved. Aikido must be like Ostridge syndrome, if i cant see it, it doesn't matter. trust me, it can work. real life fights aren't like MMA, usually someone is jumped because the person doing it thought they could get away without any trouble. people don't "square up", they certainly don't watch footage of their attacker to prepare. people have used it in real life.
@madeku cops, military, people being mugged or threatened. if MMA wasn't on TV most ppl wouldn't give a damn.. oh they're just boxing and wrestling. this guy is doing a resistance based aikido exercise, that's pretty awesome and i think should be encouraged. the person you put into a lock WILL struggle, and if you dont train that way, thats to bad. Atemi also helps, give them something to think about before an attempted lock. BTW I do enjoy watching UFC from time to time, not hating here.
@Scarred Look the burden of proof is on you not on Aikido or whatever arts you think fail. When i meet people like you I know you have not done martial arts for as long as i have and thus think only a select few styles work when in fact they all do. They all work for what they were designed for thus it is finding what makes them work and doesn't is the job of the artist to make a style that is complete for them.
@scarred10 I wouldn't be so sure. If they also drill the entrance to the technique in an alive manner they could make that chance much larger. Seeing as they train in MMA as well, I can see them making it work.
@theshninja they could if it worked at all,I cant see anyone making it work outside a bouncer ,restraint situation and even then its dodgy.If they train mma,they dont use aikido,I guarantee that.Any grappling used in a real fight relies entirely on the ability to clinch first,without that,no grappling works,whatever the style,you cannot grab a punch out of the air by the hand,its impossible.
@scarred10 There is no grabbing a punch out of thin air in aikido. Also MMA doesn't allow for small joint manipulation hence you won't see it in MMA. Grappling also doesn't require a clinch to work there a many MMA fighter that just go for the take down after setting up with an attack. You don't always need and clinch and if you do that is on you as a martial artist.
@anonymousbecause if youre a grappler without significant striking skills (like aikido,bjj etc) you cant do anything without the clinch in a real match.Wrist locks arent small joint manipulation,they are allowed even in bjj matches,finger locks are small joints.There is no contact sparring in aikido,so how does anyone know if it works.I have never seen anyone use aikido in person or video in any type of real sparring,I have seen it in door security work which is entirely different
@scarred10 Never said anything about wrist locks, and again you don't need a clinch to lead your self into a grapple. Old school aikido uses atemi (striking), but the likely hood of you finding dojos that use atemi is rare because most of the teachings come after WWII when Ueshiba was like "violence is wrong" where before the guy was pretty much a bad ass: striking, throwing, snapping limbs, and so on. I know a lot of people are going be like that is blasphemy but it is true. Yes a person...
@anonymousbecause (cont'd) Yes a person should know striking, but you don't need a clinch in any way shape or form to lead to a grappling technique. Otherwise we would never see people in MMA go from striking into a take down. As to why we don't see Aikido i think it has to deal with the whole fact that everyone is sticking to 2 styles bjj and kickboxing, thus we don't really see actual MMA just bbj/kickboxing. Where as this guy here and people like Machida are real MMA because they...
@anonymousbecause Mixing various styles to achieve their victories, but that is if you believe that a style claims a technique. All I can say is the techniques in Aikido are not throws nor are they submission holds they are just breaks. When a person does a Kote Gaeshi the attacker isn't going to be thrown his wrist is going to be broken. If it didn't work than cops, military, agents, and so on wouldn't be taught it we would all just end up knowing bjj/kickboxing.
@anonymousbecause wrestlers will strike to leg takedown,they can only do that because their entire lives have been spent sparring unlike aikidoka.The reason nobody uses aikido is because it cannot be used,it has never been shown to work in real sparring,wrestling,judo,bjj and full contact striking has been proven over and over.This guy has never had a fight,hes doing a slow mo unresisted demo.Machida has been mma training for 10 yrs,if he just did karate hed be destroyed.
@anonymousbecause aikido never sparred so all their atemi were never tested,it might as well not exist.The only grappling styles that work are those that establish clinch first,footsweeps off strikes are the only other option but youre going to need a lot of fullcontact sparring to develope that timing
i think its pretty amusing. all these people are all blah blah MMA, blah blah.. MMA isnt the test of a style, just the people involved. Aikido must be like Ostridge syndrome, if i cant see it, it doesn't matter. trust me, it can work. real life fights aren't like MMA, usually someone is jumped because the person doing it thought they could get away without any trouble. people don't "square up", they certainly don't watch footage of their attacker to prepare. people have used it in real life.
madeku 2 weeks ago
@madeku cops, military, people being mugged or threatened. if MMA wasn't on TV most ppl wouldn't give a damn.. oh they're just boxing and wrestling. this guy is doing a resistance based aikido exercise, that's pretty awesome and i think should be encouraged. the person you put into a lock WILL struggle, and if you dont train that way, thats to bad. Atemi also helps, give them something to think about before an attempted lock. BTW I do enjoy watching UFC from time to time, not hating here.
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@Scarred Look the burden of proof is on you not on Aikido or whatever arts you think fail. When i meet people like you I know you have not done martial arts for as long as i have and thus think only a select few styles work when in fact they all do. They all work for what they were designed for thus it is finding what makes them work and doesn't is the job of the artist to make a style that is complete for them.
anonymousbecause 4 months ago
This technique is a break not a submission if you rotate your body a full 180 or 360 you will snap his arm and forearm in a spiral break.
anonymousbecause 4 months ago
faulty concept here,the chance of achieving that position is near zero in a live violent situation in the first place
scarred10 5 months ago
@scarred10 I wouldn't be so sure. If they also drill the entrance to the technique in an alive manner they could make that chance much larger. Seeing as they train in MMA as well, I can see them making it work.
theshninja 4 months ago
@theshninja they could if it worked at all,I cant see anyone making it work outside a bouncer ,restraint situation and even then its dodgy.If they train mma,they dont use aikido,I guarantee that.Any grappling used in a real fight relies entirely on the ability to clinch first,without that,no grappling works,whatever the style,you cannot grab a punch out of the air by the hand,its impossible.
scarred10 4 months ago
@scarred10 There is no grabbing a punch out of thin air in aikido. Also MMA doesn't allow for small joint manipulation hence you won't see it in MMA. Grappling also doesn't require a clinch to work there a many MMA fighter that just go for the take down after setting up with an attack. You don't always need and clinch and if you do that is on you as a martial artist.
anonymousbecause 4 months ago
@anonymousbecause if youre a grappler without significant striking skills (like aikido,bjj etc) you cant do anything without the clinch in a real match.Wrist locks arent small joint manipulation,they are allowed even in bjj matches,finger locks are small joints.There is no contact sparring in aikido,so how does anyone know if it works.I have never seen anyone use aikido in person or video in any type of real sparring,I have seen it in door security work which is entirely different
scarred10 4 months ago
@scarred10 Never said anything about wrist locks, and again you don't need a clinch to lead your self into a grapple. Old school aikido uses atemi (striking), but the likely hood of you finding dojos that use atemi is rare because most of the teachings come after WWII when Ueshiba was like "violence is wrong" where before the guy was pretty much a bad ass: striking, throwing, snapping limbs, and so on. I know a lot of people are going be like that is blasphemy but it is true. Yes a person...
anonymousbecause 4 months ago
@anonymousbecause (cont'd) Yes a person should know striking, but you don't need a clinch in any way shape or form to lead to a grappling technique. Otherwise we would never see people in MMA go from striking into a take down. As to why we don't see Aikido i think it has to deal with the whole fact that everyone is sticking to 2 styles bjj and kickboxing, thus we don't really see actual MMA just bbj/kickboxing. Where as this guy here and people like Machida are real MMA because they...
anonymousbecause 4 months ago
@anonymousbecause Mixing various styles to achieve their victories, but that is if you believe that a style claims a technique. All I can say is the techniques in Aikido are not throws nor are they submission holds they are just breaks. When a person does a Kote Gaeshi the attacker isn't going to be thrown his wrist is going to be broken. If it didn't work than cops, military, agents, and so on wouldn't be taught it we would all just end up knowing bjj/kickboxing.
anonymousbecause 4 months ago
@anonymousbecause wrestlers will strike to leg takedown,they can only do that because their entire lives have been spent sparring unlike aikidoka.The reason nobody uses aikido is because it cannot be used,it has never been shown to work in real sparring,wrestling,judo,bjj and full contact striking has been proven over and over.This guy has never had a fight,hes doing a slow mo unresisted demo.Machida has been mma training for 10 yrs,if he just did karate hed be destroyed.
scarred10 4 months ago
@anonymousbecause aikido never sparred so all their atemi were never tested,it might as well not exist.The only grappling styles that work are those that establish clinch first,footsweeps off strikes are the only other option but youre going to need a lot of fullcontact sparring to develope that timing
scarred10 4 months ago