there is no such thing as a knife fight. If there is a knife it is murder attempt and in most cases successful. I practice aikido 10 years now and gotta tell you. If you see the knife by any chance do what is best and run away... there is no chance you can apply a technique against a knife attack if the attacker is good cuz there will be no attack you will never even see the knife. You wouldn't probably notice he is going to stab you...
i think a mrtial art must have all kind of hit so i think aiki should have wider variety of tech us punches and kickes... but thats just my opinion thats not nessesary true :)
You should try to be honest with yourself... would your t shirt be really clean if a man REALLY tried to "stab" you with a red marker... I find it very disturbing to teach such techniques to the public, knowing it would get them killed in a real situation. It's ok if they're aware it's about studying a beautiful japanese traditional martial art, but not real knife fighting...
@dthor1000 It's just the Aikido of O sensei when he was younger and more athletic. A bit closer to the Daitoryu Jiu Jitsu of Takeda, Ueshiba's Sensei.
this was disgusting...this teacher should change his art's name to aiki-jujutsu or jujutsu simply...its not aikido... certainly nothing you will find in japan or france...
we aikidoka go pretty hard with the strikes sometimes!!! theoretically there alot o bounty with being able to crush someones ribs with a tenkan combined atemi, basically so they are sucked into your solid punch heading towards them, trust me, good aikido practiced in a martial manner is effectiv an most predomintely in controlling calm a quick brawl event, guy at bar attacks you scenario, or prison riotnoteworthy for women, who are the most likely to be attacked in a otherwise hopeless situation
...Oh thats all you have to do if someone attacks you with a knife? Slap them a few times, they make a face like a bitch and give up on their attack. Then you take them down and poke them in the belly.. I've been going with the run like hell strategy. But damn if this is how easy it is i'm not runnin anymore!
@gillesibub they stab them with the knife because its REAL aikido. It's just aikido but brutalised so they assume because it's brutal its more effective. This style of aikido isnt recognised by Ueshiba, he wanted the name changed. As soon as aikido becomes brutal, it stops being aikido and because some form of jujutsu. This form is a joke
@KurtCobain198666 I feel that's a tad strong, calling it a joke. Aikido is both a style and a principle, to a lot of its practitioners. Considering how young it is as a style (despite its venerable roots), it's not surprising that Aikido-ka explore technique in such a way and shift focus. Surely that's how it came into being in the first place? I find the Aikido attitude to knife worrying. I see little control exerted on the weapon itself while in technique. Atemi's good, but never fail-safe.
@gillesibub Aikido is a wonderful art, the techniques are realistic, but the attacks are not, so the chances of getting a realistic technique on when you havent trained for a realistic attack is...slim. THIS isn't aikido. No martial art is defined by it's techniques alone, it's defined by its frame of mind. If you brutalise aikido, it stops being aikido by the very nature of the definition of the style.
@KurtCobain198666 I think it's a difficult one to properly guage. After all, martial principle says we must meet our attackers appropriately. Aikido, to my limited understanding, further expounds this principle, as well as that of responsibility. We are responsible for our own safety, that of our attacker(s), and the safety of those around us. Sometimes, the most responsible response is not the most delicate or polite. I see (Aiki-)Ju-jutsu in this video, rather than Aikido. But that's just me.
What I do find very interesting here is that the execution of the techniques is very close to the Jiu Jitsu roots of Ueshiba as a younger man and student of Takeda. The throws are fast and small and almost appear at first to be reliant on atemi rather than kizushi. Similar to what I see as a student of Tomiki-ryu, but totally different to the very large and often circular Aikikai versions.
I love it when people who have only seen Aikido in movies and you tube videos think things like this and think it's not real Aikido. There's more to it than flipping people over with writst locks!
try doing akido and wing chun combined know thats sweet i took akido for 2years and i noticed when you study another art they both go together smoothly
That's true. I did Oyama karate for years before taking aikido, and the two complement each other very well. It's good to combine a "hard" style and a "soft" style.
@wgseagal so wait...you mean to tell me that you've successfully harmonized the circular motions of Aikido and the Linear motions of Wing Chun? You must be an unstoppable force @,..,@
I hate how they show the attack as a straight lunge with a knife... come on how many times does that actually happen? Sure at closer range where its harder to react, but a fake slash can lead into a way better connection when they move to parry it.
this guy has a good root. his footwork is very similar to the taiji and wing chun we do. he keeps a decent bridge and moves from his dantien. he has no issue with "fa-jing" energy too. so who cares what he's using, what i've seen is that he keeps in mind all of the essential internal practices.
@starscreamleader Aikido and Judo work extremely well together. As a matter of fact, Kenji Tomiki who succeeded Kano was also the first person Ueshiba gave the title of "master instructor" (menkyo kaiden). He also wrote a book relating the two arts in 1955 (if I'm not mistaken) entitled "Judo and Aikido"
the person stabbing is just a bad ookie(attacker) and also this is taking place in a area of practice so theres no need to fast pace is... it could be sped it if needed
I think that Aikido has a lot of very good and valid techniques: particularly in the area of weapons retention, where you would expect people to lunge at your hand. I have great respect for Aikido and for O Sensei.
My criticism lies in the WAY Aikidokas train.
They spend too much time perfecting technique, and not enough time developing the attributes that matter the most in a fight.
These attributes simply cannot be developed without sparring.
Exactly, because if they get hit once by a boxer, they'd be done.
(they're not use to getting hit really hard)
it looks like they only train to fight weaklings and street thugs who know nothing. Them fighting a real fighter would actually be hard to pull all that stuff off.
i mean, the moves may look cool but the guy is just standing there letting the rest happen to him without even trying to get out or do anything.
@Arthur42Dent in part this is due to the fact that O Sensei saw Aikido less as a martial art and more as a spiritual practice toward the end of his life. the tradition is less about self defense and more about self awareness. nonetheless, the techniques learned in Aikido training will serve the average person well in most situations...perhaps not against a skilled fighter of another discipline, but against any drunk idiot or average crack head attacker, it will be enough to live and tell.
@dromad I appreciate the beauty of Aikido technique and philosophy, and I see it as a reflection of O Sensei's life and experience.
However, I believe all martial arts follow the Tao of the Warrior more or less equally. Are you implying that another art, say Muay Thai, is not as good as Aikido in spirituality or self-awareness?
So, why not study one of the arts that do spar, and learn to actually defend yourself while cultivating your spirit?
i wasn't implying that other forms don't cultivate spirit or that Aikido is better...just that from what i know about Aikido and O Sensei's attitudes toward the end of this life, he saw the practice as more spiritual than martial. it still has practical applications for self defense, especially for people who are looking for less aggressive training situations.
@Arthur42Dent - Arthur, this is because Aikido was not designed for self defense and was never intended to be used as such. I'm not sure why there's so much bad info on Aikido floating around on the net- is it all due to Steven Seagal?
@Arthur42Dent The fact is, until you understand the technique and how to do it, you can not put the technique properly into a realistic situation. I've been an Aikidoka for around six to seven years, and I'm just putting them into a realistic situation now. As in, literally just starting, and this isn't perfectly real situation. And to be honest, a real situation, you wouldn't lock their arm out either, you'd snap it. x]
@Arthur42Dent I agree my friends a lot of aikido masters spent a lot of time in just one technique before moving to another but it depends on your teacher and whether he is willing to show you how it was used by the samurais for self defence and not for show
@Arthur42Dent In my dojo, we actually train in flexibility, strength and all that stuff, not just perfecting techniques. We try different moves that we think they would work, and use much atemi. I really am happy with my training.
@Arthur42Dent You're right, to a certain extent, but we do have some form of sparing, where 4-5 people attack you at random times (sometimes even simultaneously) and you have to defend.
And this isn't traditional Aikido, as far as I can see, it's Real aikido. (traditional aikido with punches instead of subduing techniques)
For example, they, instead of performing a final part of technique, lock (zanshin- literally translated means sunset I believe) they kick and punch the hell out of their uke
@Arthur42Dent I agree... I find it difficult to believe that an attacker would 1. continue holding his arm out after an attack. 2. Allow you to strike and move around him without resistance. Also, these strikes are presumable designed to inflict pain or disable the attacker and would therefore guide the attacker's body differently to how it is guided in the video. Equally, why end with a submission? surely an eye gauge or strike to the groin would allow you to escape the situation more easily.
@Arthur42Dent That's amusing, sense neither the Knights of Europe, nor the Samurai of Japan, engaged in much sparring. It's a helpful exercise, but if done wrong it is one of the most harmful things that have ever entered Martial Arts. When in a fight your first instinct will be to do what you do in sparring, so there can be no divergence between your real art and your sparring. Bad habits must be CRUSHED out of the practitioners sparring or it could ruin them.
I do MMA, and i have for about 2 years. I've sparred with people that have claimed to do Aikido, but in art, they know NO takedown defense, no blocking, other than the techniques you can youtube, and no constant vigilance, to say, when it comes to parrying. The art, in my honest opinion, is just horrible. Pick an art with more of an understanding of the world around you, rather than playing pretend time and acting like you're ACTUALLY going to pull any of that off against a well seasoned fighter
@Arthur42Dent Most dojo's branded with the principal of a martial art ending with "do" often thrive off the discipline of self perfection rather than self protection (Judo, Aikido, Kendo, Iaido). Hence they are more ideal for sport or fitness trianing. If you're looking for a Japanese Martial Art that is meant for practical combat then you should look for the term "jitsu" or "jutsu" (Jiu-jitsu, Aiki-jitsu, Kenjitsu, Iaijitsu, and Ninjitsu).
1 trains in Aikido and the other trains in Judo for the same amount of time.
The Judoka will consistently defeat the Aikidoka. NOT because Judo's techniques are necessarily better than Aikido's, but because the Judoka has developed superior timing, rhythm, and balance.
Without sparring, it is impossible to develop these all important skills.
This is one of the main reasons why a 75-y-o Gene Lebell choked out a 30-y-o Steven Seagal.
That's quite true. I'm just curious to know why you think aikidoka couldn't spar. I know many aikido dojo are for "moving meditation", but some do train for combat.
Artuhur, also, though this might insult some aikidoka, I've studied it enough to know that most supposed "real world" applications of aikido are simply wrong, trying to adapt a defense against a17th century weapon to a completely different kind of modern attack. It would be better if they studied what they were originally for, then adapt them accordingly.
One last thing :) Sparring is not the end-all of training, in spite of what the current MMA craze may claim to those who're ignorant of life in the trenches. It is a drill of major importance (actually, various types should be done), but one needs to continue training in the more "dangerous" techniques. Ideally, one should find an instructor who's been in a lot of real scraps, but failing that, he is responsible for his own development.
My KF instructor had been basically a street thug. After he left, I coulnd't find a school with the same degree of...something, not sure what, exactly. I know this will offend some, but if your master is devoted to "peace" and doesn't have a long string of streetfights as experience, he really doesn't have much to show you. This is why real MAs died out. Today, that is kinda hard to do. In the old days, the real world was your arena.
Actually, that's kind of the whole point of true MAs, to have technique triumph over simple strength. One gets better with practice even as he gets older, while strength just dminishes. At any rate, it wouldn't take much of a stretch to return aikido to its roots and make it sparring based (randori, sparring with martial intent, NOT for "sport").
@Arthur42Dent It's always the case you need better timing, rythm and balance to defeat anyone in any art. This is no different for boxing or judo or whatever. You try to argue aikido is worthless, but in the end it all depends on how you use it. Not what it teaches, you need to have good timing, rhythm and balance. That goes beyond any martial art.
1) An Aikidoka requires a LARGE advantage in timing, rhythm, and balance. A boxer, for example, would only need a SLIGHT advantage in ONE of those skills. Furhermore, a boxer can also take the offensive, which would mean that he could win even with NO advantage in those skills.
2) Since Aikidokas do not conduct regular free-form sparring, they CANNOT IMPROVE their timing, rhythm, or balance. It is impossible to develop these qualities without sparring.
@Arthur42Dent Aikido isn't like boxing, it's self defense. So it wont ever show up in MMA because that is fighting. The whole concept and purpose are very different to begin with. Free form "sparring" is done in Randori, a multiple attacker scenario where you have to act on instinct and it definitely does improve your timing, balance and rhythm.
Maybe you should invest some time into the art instead of dismissing it's purpose and usefulness. It's not meant to be used in the ring.
1) Only a few sects of Aikido even practice this (i.e. Shodokan). Furthermore, only the senior students can participate. This means that it will be YEARS before an Aikidoka can improve his timing, rhythm, and balance, while other arts let their students develop these from the beginning.
2) I don't consider Randori, as typically practiced, as free-form sparring. The attackers do not employ broken rhythm, attack by combination, or progressive indirect attack...
Moreover, the concept of multiple vs. one Randori is contrived to begin with. All Aikido Randori that I've seen involve sequential direct attacks. No group would ever fight in this way. I'd like to see how an Aikidoka fares against multiple collegiate wrestlers attacking all at once. You are truly delusional if you think that the Aikidoka can nullify all their takedowns simultaneously. Even if he manages to stop one, in that same moment the others will have taken him down.
@Cenot4ph said, "Aikido isn't like boxing, it's self defense"
Bottom line: If you don't develop rhythm, timing, and balance (which take a LONG time to improve), you will not be able to defend yourself effectively.
Rhythm, timing, and balance can only be developed through combat, or at least through sparring.
Aikidokas do not spar much (if at all).
Therefore, Aikidokas are ill-equipped to effectively defend themselves against practitioners of arts that do spar.
in aikido timing and rhythm is developed, once u get to higher levels, u r expected to execute the techniques at full speed. the uke will be coming at full speed right at you and if ur timing is off, the technique will be off. we dun so called spar as we have to get the basics right first.
also, u shld watch human weapon krav maga ep. the hosts tried using boxing or mma movements. got stabbed dozen times or more
1) What you're describing is an improvement in reaction time and speed. Timing and rhythm deal with the cadence of attack and the infinite variations you can only be exposed to by fighting/sparring against skilled fighters, especially "broken rhtyhm".
2) I repeat that my criticism is not of Aikido technique, which I have said is especially effective in the area of weapons retention/disarming. I am only suggesting that Aikidokas spar more.
This is why you don't see any successful pure Aikidokas in MMA.
Unless you have a HUGE advantage in timing, rhythm, and balance, most Aikido techniques are so dangerous to attempt. If you try to slip to the inside/outside, commit both hands to 1 limb, or expose your side/back, but you fail to finish the technique, you are in a very bad position and will be brutally counter-attacked.
to all the fellows that are questionning the efficiency and the credibility of aikido technics whenever u are facing another martial artist.......i would have to say that the most common mistake is that all the persons are judging the technic of aikido and whether it can be applied or not .....the answer is do not focus on the application just focus on the movement and if your movement is up to the standards then all application will come instantly and fluidly and u can control any1
Many will probably disagree with me, but aikijitsu was a battlefield art, and as such, it was assumed that your opponent was armed. I've found through trial and error that a many aikido techniques that are next to impossible to make work suddenly make sense when used against a sword-wielding opponent.
aiki-jujitsu was the original and aikido spawned...yadda yadda yadda...spawned different styles...yadda yadda yadda...peace love....touche my wrist and say that...yadda yadda yadda
aikido vs aikido fine but aikido vs kick boxing no chne youl have to be very quick if you want to beat kick boxer. but nice martial sport and defence not knocking it but its not the best form of defence. kickboxing is excellent all rounder.
I want to see knife fighting not knife disarming. By the way all of these disarms can be made void and it could be learned by a person in 2 minutes. All I'm going to say is that it involves the checking hand. I love Aikido, but to really understand a knife you got to become a knife fighter.
Con todo respecto, una cosa es una pelea mano a mano. Y otra muy diferente una con un cuchillo. Si la persona realmente sabe usar un cuchillo es muy dificil que de aplicar las tomas. Es más podes terminar desangrado por los cortes. Una cosa es entrenar con alguien que conoces y otra muy diferente enfrentarte con alguien totalmente desconocido. Respeto el Aikido, pero contra un cuchillo, realmente la billetera no vale una vida!
::sigh:: aikidoka and their soap boxes "DONT STRIKE!" "DONT STAB THE GUY TRYING TO STAB YOU!" "AIKIDOKA DONT PUNCH OR KICK! WE USE THE POWER OF KI TO POLITELY NEGOTIATE THE ATTACK AND THROUGH THE LOVE OF TEH UNIVERSE WE WIN!"
the yoseikan, yoshinkan and tomiki styles of aikido and aiki budo are pre-wwii styles of aikido. the pre-wwii styles of aikido are more...whats the word...KERPLAH!...yup that about sums it up. Yoseikan members will take you to the ground and choke you out. Tomiki have knife fighting comps and yoshinkan practitioners know all kinds of locks. But all three have a strong judo influence as well as kendo. In those days you had to know Judo, kendo, sumo or jujits to train aikido
WELL! we can dance if we want to. we can leave yoru friends behind! cus your friends dont dance and if they dont dance well then they aint no friends of mine...LOL
@grtwhtbnr heheheh, yes i do agree with you. This is just demonstration.. but in real life ,, you can just shoot the Aikido master in his head and end the strory of Ueshiba.
Look the more techniques you use the more u lose your strength!
Similar to Ju Jutsu, using kind of Aikido tecniques however should be he changed using his own way (especially about hiting, etc). Looks like effective however if talking this is real Aikdio I don't think so. However other effective way modified Aikido, I think.
aikido works for this becuse its a distance fight. not like judo where you go in and practicly hug him. what you do is wait for him to attack and by him having to move to close the distance ou manipulate it to ur advantage. it does work well. im being taught be the 8th dan here in colorado.
if you have anything in head, let's say keys or a cell phone or an umbrella, use that as a weapon to counter attack, throw what u have in head on the opponents face especially nose , and attack the guy to unarm the knife , if you have nothing let him come closer , never act as superman, let him attack and try to escape till you find the best timing to disarm him , or try to use his balance against him ,then disarm. even if you are a real master , street is completly #, so be SMArt before acting.
there's a big factor that no one mentions is that the attacker is not ur training opponent, and the timing is unknown, and if you get attacked with a real knife , your heart would beat much faster since you won't be able to predict how he would attack you . that's why it's not only applying techniques but you should really have strong nerves and keep cool, and not only think what kind of technique i should use, since what u learnt is only a sample. be smart and use ur logic.
@einsiedler32 Don't try to reason with these guys. If they thinks it works then that's fine fot them, maybe they will sleep better at night, I only hope they never get in a fight because they think their moves work.
@bcibibcibcpCB acturly it dose ive been akido for 6 years and ive been in few fights and its worked evry time it all depends how good you are but seriosly dont diss it intill you try it (sory bad speling i know)
that isn't the best form of aikido to show.... aikido is all about carrying your attackers momentum in a fluid an controlled manner!! its good martial arts but far from the original aikido techniques taught in japan...
My solution to a determined knife attack is a quick rearward motion, as I draw my concealed 45acp and fire two frangible rounds to the upper torso, followed by one to the low center of the head. Very effective technique for a determined knife attacker. In the event my weapon malfunctioned, I'm happy knowing that I have some hand to hand options available, rather than nothing Your a 2nd Dan? How the hell can you say "no such thing as fight against knife"? do you understand what fight means?
Everybody has the right to their own view, I respect that for sure. My argument is simply that one's chances are better, if they are confronted with a determined attacker, with a background consisting of disarmament training and drills. Very likely you'll be cut (almost certain) but you must admit it would be better than no training. But, the best real world option is the great equalizer, which like AMX, I don't leave home without. no knife can compete with 230grains of lead ;)
You have soem good points but id say it all depends on the situation really, and mostly the disatnce of the attacker, but what about those of us who live in countries where its ilelgal to carry a firearm, unless you are an armed police officer or in the army and on duty? As we prety much have to fall back to using hand to hand option, or prefferably if avaliable grabbing the nearest biggest stick/solid object.
there is absolutely nothing aiki about this aikido. this is jujitsu. aikido doesn't hit the opponent because your not trying to hurt them. aikido is mostly throws and evasion. this is jujitsu because you would really hurt the opponent if you did these things. 90% of traditional jujitsu looks like aikido.
yeah things get mixed up heaps. but akido is a passive martial art. although in a real fight my friend acidently broke i guys arm you just can't predict how it will go shit happens even in training things can go wrong.
aikido does use some strikes, but their use is limited
aikido at its core is passive. while throwing someone can really hurt them. aikido doesn't aim to kill to the opponent. while it may happen, (guy cracks is skull open and dies of shock) aikido's aim is to disable to opponent while not killing them
something like jujitsu, the aim is to maim and kill. while disabling techniques exist, the main aim of the art is the destroy to the opponent
Yes that is very true their use is limitedm but if you look at their use in some of the content of the Koryu no Kata's the use of Atemi seem to have a more dangerous role, striking to a set of pressure points that hit in the right order and timeframe that can cause Cardiack Arrest for example.example.
this is not aikido. these are aikido techniques modified to be used in a street fight: 4 example, they involves many atemi (striking) and some arm twisting that are not part of aikido.
anyway, we all must say that this method can be more helpful than aikido in a street fights.
PS: every martial arts student should adapt his art to himself, but also to the situation he must use in.
as a practitioner of *traditional* aikikai aikido,i have to say that i have never used nor seen so many tsukis(punches) or hits in any technique in aikido...therefore it has to be real aikido
Hang on a minute. Aikido was designed to protect yourself and the attacker. This seems to be designed to cause massive agony to the attacker. Calling it real aikido therefore seems a little inaccurate?
And throwing a guy in the street who doesn't know how to turn into a technique and beakfall, thus landing on his head isn't going to be seriously injured?
I mean yes the poin of Aikido is to be able, eventually ,to get ato a technical point hwere you can put them down without inuring them, but if you end up doing some techniqques, prely out of habbit in the street, theres not many ways of reducing the risk for them to be killed/injured.
oh my god ...no aikido...at 5,35 hes killing hes enemy with the knife...o sensei cry´s...in every aikido move you be able to hit your enemy but only to shock him...and if your good you dont need to...(bad englich because i am german)
many aikido techniques were made and used by samurais for killing. From breaking necks and arms to, of curse, killing with knife.
nowadays aikido philosophy has changed. however, it was like this in his origins.
I suppose Jocic means that when someone tries to kill you with a knife (to KILL you), you just send it back with all you have, even if you have to kill too.
i wonder hoe he would do agaisnt someone whos done sayoc kali lol
khan64 2 months ago
@khan64
lol..............Buuuuuuuuuuuuu
SENSEIJOCIC 2 months ago
Sorry it's very nice but I don't see the aikido...
MrShadesky 6 months ago
I see some American Kenpo in there - minus the physics - but a nice attempt.
Chad01234 7 months ago
there is no such thing as a knife fight. If there is a knife it is murder attempt and in most cases successful. I practice aikido 10 years now and gotta tell you. If you see the knife by any chance do what is best and run away... there is no chance you can apply a technique against a knife attack if the attacker is good cuz there will be no attack you will never even see the knife. You wouldn't probably notice he is going to stab you...
sunreaper2 8 months ago
@sunreaper2 Agreed no attacker ain't gonna pull out his knife in front of you, they will get you by surprise.
Now try simulate a knife fight.
You and a friend wear white T-shirt and both will have a red marker as your knives and see the results.
rswarrior1700 8 months ago
i think a mrtial art must have all kind of hit so i think aiki should have wider variety of tech us punches and kickes... but thats just my opinion thats not nessesary true :)
kajimusha 9 months ago
was the sound track actually playing in the dojo during the demonstation because the first tore certainly looked like he was trying to keep the beat.
bae313 9 months ago
You should try to be honest with yourself... would your t shirt be really clean if a man REALLY tried to "stab" you with a red marker... I find it very disturbing to teach such techniques to the public, knowing it would get them killed in a real situation. It's ok if they're aware it's about studying a beautiful japanese traditional martial art, but not real knife fighting...
JuNoKun1 11 months ago
nice,but the technique he has used is a Kiusho skill,not aikido :D
Illidanfede 11 months ago
@Illidanfede
boy just how wrong you are :)
SENSEIJOCIC 11 months ago 7
@Illidanfede
it's Ju Aikido
SENSEIJOCIC 5 months ago
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In this clip contains a lot of moves with merciness
( because , that's a show what's aiki movement like )
, in fact , if aiki master wanted , he/she can easily return that knife-stabbing
back to attacker's throat or pharynx without knife-dropping or knife-stealing
This art is beautiful & deadly at the same time
depends on one's own intention
pwnage35411 1 year ago
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pwnage35411 1 year ago
where is the aiki ?
dthor1000 1 year ago
where is the aiki ? aikido is not force>
dthor1000 1 year ago
@dthor1000 It's just the Aikido of O sensei when he was younger and more athletic. A bit closer to the Daitoryu Jiu Jitsu of Takeda, Ueshiba's Sensei.
TheKus 1 year ago
this was disgusting...this teacher should change his art's name to aiki-jujutsu or jujutsu simply...its not aikido... certainly nothing you will find in japan or france...
kingofaikido 1 year ago
we aikidoka go pretty hard with the strikes sometimes!!! theoretically there alot o bounty with being able to crush someones ribs with a tenkan combined atemi, basically so they are sucked into your solid punch heading towards them, trust me, good aikido practiced in a martial manner is effectiv an most predomintely in controlling calm a quick brawl event, guy at bar attacks you scenario, or prison riotnoteworthy for women, who are the most likely to be attacked in a otherwise hopeless situation
SuperSamboiman 1 year ago
dude is fat.
valdezmiguel2 1 year ago
...Oh thats all you have to do if someone attacks you with a knife? Slap them a few times, they make a face like a bitch and give up on their attack. Then you take them down and poke them in the belly.. I've been going with the run like hell strategy. But damn if this is how easy it is i'm not runnin anymore!
MegaHelloutube 1 year ago
omg this is fuckn good, nice quick smooth movements,
jblundy86 1 year ago
@HaloCheap I've started learning aikido since (since or for?) three weeks, and it's not really hard ^^
If you can do aikido, do it. You'll see, it's absolutely awesome :D
Astriam 1 year ago
@gillesibub they stab them with the knife because its REAL aikido. It's just aikido but brutalised so they assume because it's brutal its more effective. This style of aikido isnt recognised by Ueshiba, he wanted the name changed. As soon as aikido becomes brutal, it stops being aikido and because some form of jujutsu. This form is a joke
KurtCobain198666 1 year ago
@KurtCobain198666 I feel that's a tad strong, calling it a joke. Aikido is both a style and a principle, to a lot of its practitioners. Considering how young it is as a style (despite its venerable roots), it's not surprising that Aikido-ka explore technique in such a way and shift focus. Surely that's how it came into being in the first place? I find the Aikido attitude to knife worrying. I see little control exerted on the weapon itself while in technique. Atemi's good, but never fail-safe.
gillesibub 1 year ago
@gillesibub Aikido is a wonderful art, the techniques are realistic, but the attacks are not, so the chances of getting a realistic technique on when you havent trained for a realistic attack is...slim. THIS isn't aikido. No martial art is defined by it's techniques alone, it's defined by its frame of mind. If you brutalise aikido, it stops being aikido by the very nature of the definition of the style.
KurtCobain198666 1 year ago
@KurtCobain198666 I think it's a difficult one to properly guage. After all, martial principle says we must meet our attackers appropriately. Aikido, to my limited understanding, further expounds this principle, as well as that of responsibility. We are responsible for our own safety, that of our attacker(s), and the safety of those around us. Sometimes, the most responsible response is not the most delicate or polite. I see (Aiki-)Ju-jutsu in this video, rather than Aikido. But that's just me.
gillesibub 1 year ago
What I do find very interesting here is that the execution of the techniques is very close to the Jiu Jitsu roots of Ueshiba as a younger man and student of Takeda. The throws are fast and small and almost appear at first to be reliant on atemi rather than kizushi. Similar to what I see as a student of Tomiki-ryu, but totally different to the very large and often circular Aikikai versions.
TheKus 1 year ago
Too many unnecessary movements. This is not ju jitsu. And students with hakama do at the 4th-5th kyu, but certainly not the first dan.
rustik13 1 year ago
I love it when people who have only seen Aikido in movies and you tube videos think things like this and think it's not real Aikido. There's more to it than flipping people over with writst locks!
pimpdalyrical 1 year ago
try doing akido and wing chun combined know thats sweet i took akido for 2years and i noticed when you study another art they both go together smoothly
wgseagal 1 year ago 15
i agree
SENSEIJOCIC 1 year ago 8
@SENSEIJOCIC I take aikido and i love it
MacUser135 1 year ago
@wgseagal its true some martial arts have similar principals
TheRogueMonk 1 year ago
@wgseagal dude that's what my senei does man you should chek my video aiki jutsu by sensei youssef deeb at 4:07 you can see the wing chun tc bro...
moe2744 1 year ago
@moe2744 yousef deeb? do you live in lebanon or any other arabic country??
MrRichard911 1 year ago
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@wgseagal dude that's what my senei does man you should chek my video aiki jutsu by sensei youssef deeb at 4:07 you can see the wing chun tc bro..
moe2744 1 year ago
@wgseagal haha i was also thinking those 2 would go really well with eachother and do both
raprune18 1 year ago
@wgseagal
That's true. I did Oyama karate for years before taking aikido, and the two complement each other very well. It's good to combine a "hard" style and a "soft" style.
exador3 1 year ago
@wgseagal really? i do aikido by myself and i heard its difficult to combine chinese and japanese martial arts
MrCemicalX 1 year ago
@wgseagal I too have done this. It is a very useful blend
bustobiwan 1 year ago
@wgseagal so wait...you mean to tell me that you've successfully harmonized the circular motions of Aikido and the Linear motions of Wing Chun? You must be an unstoppable force @,..,@
JVThrillz 6 months ago
I hate how they show the attack as a straight lunge with a knife... come on how many times does that actually happen? Sure at closer range where its harder to react, but a fake slash can lead into a way better connection when they move to parry it.
xBKxFoilx 1 year ago
this guy has a good root. his footwork is very similar to the taiji and wing chun we do. he keeps a decent bridge and moves from his dantien. he has no issue with "fa-jing" energy too. so who cares what he's using, what i've seen is that he keeps in mind all of the essential internal practices.
arahim1231987 1 year ago
@gillesibub - You're 100% correct. I'm not sure what we are seeing in this video but it is NOT traditional Aikido.
jakesilv 1 year ago
the martial art class i take is mixed aikido with judo
starscreamleader 1 year ago
@starscreamleader Aikido and Judo work extremely well together. As a matter of fact, Kenji Tomiki who succeeded Kano was also the first person Ueshiba gave the title of "master instructor" (menkyo kaiden). He also wrote a book relating the two arts in 1955 (if I'm not mistaken) entitled "Judo and Aikido"
TheKus 1 year ago
These people emberrase Aikido, they are really bad at what they're learning.
Jordi300395 1 year ago
more than knife defence this is the better system to be stabbed!
mapick2tube 1 year ago
hmmlooking for some fun if you know what i mean just msg meh
CareeLamberte4 1 year ago
WOW Aikido is great if
Someone really slowly moves a knife
Not where its going to hit you!
If thats the best pretending you can do then......
gorilla199uncensored 1 year ago
you dont know anything then if you truly believe your statement
color37 1 year ago
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"you dont know anything then if you truly believe your statement "
LOL
So 6th Dan they havent been told how to defend against a knife actually coming at you....... Maybe thats 10th Dan?
Guess its important to learn what to do when people stab the air 2 foot away from you first...
Oh well
gorilla199uncensored 1 year ago
but yeah these people look really bad at what they are leaning, i will give you that
color37 1 year ago
the person stabbing is just a bad ookie(attacker) and also this is taking place in a area of practice so theres no need to fast pace is... it could be sped it if needed
cas0n0va 1 year ago
Do not misinterpret my comments.
I think that Aikido has a lot of very good and valid techniques: particularly in the area of weapons retention, where you would expect people to lunge at your hand. I have great respect for Aikido and for O Sensei.
My criticism lies in the WAY Aikidokas train.
They spend too much time perfecting technique, and not enough time developing the attributes that matter the most in a fight.
These attributes simply cannot be developed without sparring.
Arthur42Dent 2 years ago 34
Nicely said arthur42
82equinox 2 years ago
@Arthur42Dent
Exactly, because if they get hit once by a boxer, they'd be done.
(they're not use to getting hit really hard)
it looks like they only train to fight weaklings and street thugs who know nothing. Them fighting a real fighter would actually be hard to pull all that stuff off.
i mean, the moves may look cool but the guy is just standing there letting the rest happen to him without even trying to get out or do anything.
like i said, those moves only work for weaklings.
shiryet 2 years ago
@shiryet
I wouldn't mind learning this stuff tho lol ^.^
shiryet 2 years ago
@Arthur42Dent in part this is due to the fact that O Sensei saw Aikido less as a martial art and more as a spiritual practice toward the end of his life. the tradition is less about self defense and more about self awareness. nonetheless, the techniques learned in Aikido training will serve the average person well in most situations...perhaps not against a skilled fighter of another discipline, but against any drunk idiot or average crack head attacker, it will be enough to live and tell.
dromad 2 years ago
@dromad I appreciate the beauty of Aikido technique and philosophy, and I see it as a reflection of O Sensei's life and experience.
However, I believe all martial arts follow the Tao of the Warrior more or less equally. Are you implying that another art, say Muay Thai, is not as good as Aikido in spirituality or self-awareness?
So, why not study one of the arts that do spar, and learn to actually defend yourself while cultivating your spirit?
Arthur42Dent 2 years ago
i wasn't implying that other forms don't cultivate spirit or that Aikido is better...just that from what i know about Aikido and O Sensei's attitudes toward the end of this life, he saw the practice as more spiritual than martial. it still has practical applications for self defense, especially for people who are looking for less aggressive training situations.
dromad 2 years ago
@Arthur42Dent - Arthur, this is because Aikido was not designed for self defense and was never intended to be used as such. I'm not sure why there's so much bad info on Aikido floating around on the net- is it all due to Steven Seagal?
jakesilv 1 year ago
@Arthur42Dent The fact is, until you understand the technique and how to do it, you can not put the technique properly into a realistic situation. I've been an Aikidoka for around six to seven years, and I'm just putting them into a realistic situation now. As in, literally just starting, and this isn't perfectly real situation. And to be honest, a real situation, you wouldn't lock their arm out either, you'd snap it. x]
MeowMixMadness 1 year ago
@Arthur42Dent I could not agree more. Thank you.
Ryokushindo 1 year ago
@Arthur42Dent See Tomiki's Aikido Randori system, based off the Judo system.
He entirely agreed, Aikido cannot be refined unless applied against a free thinking opponent.
TheKus 1 year ago
@Arthur42Dent I agree my friends a lot of aikido masters spent a lot of time in just one technique before moving to another but it depends on your teacher and whether he is willing to show you how it was used by the samurais for self defence and not for show
koumarofatsa 1 year ago
@Arthur42Dent In my dojo, we actually train in flexibility, strength and all that stuff, not just perfecting techniques. We try different moves that we think they would work, and use much atemi. I really am happy with my training.
alcaponis 11 months ago
@Arthur42Dent You're right, to a certain extent, but we do have some form of sparing, where 4-5 people attack you at random times (sometimes even simultaneously) and you have to defend.
And this isn't traditional Aikido, as far as I can see, it's Real aikido. (traditional aikido with punches instead of subduing techniques)
For example, they, instead of performing a final part of technique, lock (zanshin- literally translated means sunset I believe) they kick and punch the hell out of their uke
macvaxx 11 months ago
@Arthur42Dent I agree... I find it difficult to believe that an attacker would 1. continue holding his arm out after an attack. 2. Allow you to strike and move around him without resistance. Also, these strikes are presumable designed to inflict pain or disable the attacker and would therefore guide the attacker's body differently to how it is guided in the video. Equally, why end with a submission? surely an eye gauge or strike to the groin would allow you to escape the situation more easily.
Rahrhino 8 months ago
@Rahrhino It doesn't end in submission per se, if the aikidoka is feeling really mean, he could just break a bone or two. That should do it.
morningstarscrew 8 months ago
@Arthur42Dent That's amusing, sense neither the Knights of Europe, nor the Samurai of Japan, engaged in much sparring. It's a helpful exercise, but if done wrong it is one of the most harmful things that have ever entered Martial Arts. When in a fight your first instinct will be to do what you do in sparring, so there can be no divergence between your real art and your sparring. Bad habits must be CRUSHED out of the practitioners sparring or it could ruin them.
Altonahk 8 months ago
I do MMA, and i have for about 2 years. I've sparred with people that have claimed to do Aikido, but in art, they know NO takedown defense, no blocking, other than the techniques you can youtube, and no constant vigilance, to say, when it comes to parrying. The art, in my honest opinion, is just horrible. Pick an art with more of an understanding of the world around you, rather than playing pretend time and acting like you're ACTUALLY going to pull any of that off against a well seasoned fighter
kintle182 8 months ago
@Arthur42Dent there for thats why my sensei test me every year or soo so its not the art that makes tha man its the man that makes the art
XxTHExDEADxMANXx 7 months ago
@Arthur42Dent Most dojo's branded with the principal of a martial art ending with "do" often thrive off the discipline of self perfection rather than self protection (Judo, Aikido, Kendo, Iaido). Hence they are more ideal for sport or fitness trianing. If you're looking for a Japanese Martial Art that is meant for practical combat then you should look for the term "jitsu" or "jutsu" (Jiu-jitsu, Aiki-jitsu, Kenjitsu, Iaijitsu, and Ninjitsu).
JVThrillz 6 months ago
@Arthur42Dent that another martial for that on the side. I guess...
galanoth17 6 months ago
Let's say we have 2 people equal in every way.
1 trains in Aikido and the other trains in Judo for the same amount of time.
The Judoka will consistently defeat the Aikidoka. NOT because Judo's techniques are necessarily better than Aikido's, but because the Judoka has developed superior timing, rhythm, and balance.
Without sparring, it is impossible to develop these all important skills.
This is one of the main reasons why a 75-y-o Gene Lebell choked out a 30-y-o Steven Seagal.
Arthur42Dent 2 years ago
That's quite true. I'm just curious to know why you think aikidoka couldn't spar. I know many aikido dojo are for "moving meditation", but some do train for combat.
varanid9 2 years ago
Artuhur, also, though this might insult some aikidoka, I've studied it enough to know that most supposed "real world" applications of aikido are simply wrong, trying to adapt a defense against a17th century weapon to a completely different kind of modern attack. It would be better if they studied what they were originally for, then adapt them accordingly.
varanid9 2 years ago
One last thing :) Sparring is not the end-all of training, in spite of what the current MMA craze may claim to those who're ignorant of life in the trenches. It is a drill of major importance (actually, various types should be done), but one needs to continue training in the more "dangerous" techniques. Ideally, one should find an instructor who's been in a lot of real scraps, but failing that, he is responsible for his own development.
varanid9 2 years ago
My KF instructor had been basically a street thug. After he left, I coulnd't find a school with the same degree of...something, not sure what, exactly. I know this will offend some, but if your master is devoted to "peace" and doesn't have a long string of streetfights as experience, he really doesn't have much to show you. This is why real MAs died out. Today, that is kinda hard to do. In the old days, the real world was your arena.
varanid9 2 years ago 3
Most Aikido techniques RELY on one of these: 1) Slip to the outside/inside 2) Commit 2 hands to 1 limb 3) Expose your side/back
To safely do any of these, you MUST have better timing, rhythm, and balance than your opponent.
Therefore, most AIkido techniques DEPEND on you being a much better fighter than your opponent to begin with.
You would be better off training in Ju-Jutsu, Judo, or any number of other sparring based arts.
Arthur42Dent 2 years ago
Actually, that's kind of the whole point of true MAs, to have technique triumph over simple strength. One gets better with practice even as he gets older, while strength just dminishes. At any rate, it wouldn't take much of a stretch to return aikido to its roots and make it sparring based (randori, sparring with martial intent, NOT for "sport").
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Arthur42Dent 2 years ago
varanid9 said, "that's kind of the whole point of true MAs, to have technique triumph over simple strength"
Timing, rhythm, and balance != strength
Strength is largely dependent on genetics.
Timing, rhythm, and balance are acquired through sparring. They are skills that are acquired through combat experience.
An aikidoka is similar to a man who perfects a jump shot by himself in his driveway. He then is confident he can dominate the NBA.
Arthur42Dent 2 years ago
@Arthur42Dent It's always the case you need better timing, rythm and balance to defeat anyone in any art. This is no different for boxing or judo or whatever. You try to argue aikido is worthless, but in the end it all depends on how you use it. Not what it teaches, you need to have good timing, rhythm and balance. That goes beyond any martial art.
Cenot4ph 2 years ago
@Cenot4ph
1) An Aikidoka requires a LARGE advantage in timing, rhythm, and balance. A boxer, for example, would only need a SLIGHT advantage in ONE of those skills. Furhermore, a boxer can also take the offensive, which would mean that he could win even with NO advantage in those skills.
2) Since Aikidokas do not conduct regular free-form sparring, they CANNOT IMPROVE their timing, rhythm, or balance. It is impossible to develop these qualities without sparring.
Arthur42Dent 2 years ago
@Arthur42Dent Aikido isn't like boxing, it's self defense. So it wont ever show up in MMA because that is fighting. The whole concept and purpose are very different to begin with. Free form "sparring" is done in Randori, a multiple attacker scenario where you have to act on instinct and it definitely does improve your timing, balance and rhythm.
Maybe you should invest some time into the art instead of dismissing it's purpose and usefulness. It's not meant to be used in the ring.
Cenot4ph 2 years ago
@Cenot4ph
Randori:
1) Only a few sects of Aikido even practice this (i.e. Shodokan). Furthermore, only the senior students can participate. This means that it will be YEARS before an Aikidoka can improve his timing, rhythm, and balance, while other arts let their students develop these from the beginning.
2) I don't consider Randori, as typically practiced, as free-form sparring. The attackers do not employ broken rhythm, attack by combination, or progressive indirect attack...
Arthur42Dent 2 years ago
@Cenot4ph
Moreover, the concept of multiple vs. one Randori is contrived to begin with. All Aikido Randori that I've seen involve sequential direct attacks. No group would ever fight in this way. I'd like to see how an Aikidoka fares against multiple collegiate wrestlers attacking all at once. You are truly delusional if you think that the Aikidoka can nullify all their takedowns simultaneously. Even if he manages to stop one, in that same moment the others will have taken him down.
Arthur42Dent 2 years ago
@Cenot4ph said, "Aikido isn't like boxing, it's self defense"
Bottom line: If you don't develop rhythm, timing, and balance (which take a LONG time to improve), you will not be able to defend yourself effectively.
Rhythm, timing, and balance can only be developed through combat, or at least through sparring.
Aikidokas do not spar much (if at all).
Therefore, Aikidokas are ill-equipped to effectively defend themselves against practitioners of arts that do spar.
Sorry, but this is the truth.
Arthur42Dent 2 years ago
@Arthur42Dent
in aikido timing and rhythm is developed, once u get to higher levels, u r expected to execute the techniques at full speed. the uke will be coming at full speed right at you and if ur timing is off, the technique will be off. we dun so called spar as we have to get the basics right first.
also, u shld watch human weapon krav maga ep. the hosts tried using boxing or mma movements. got stabbed dozen times or more
chbedok 1 year ago
@chbedok
1) What you're describing is an improvement in reaction time and speed. Timing and rhythm deal with the cadence of attack and the infinite variations you can only be exposed to by fighting/sparring against skilled fighters, especially "broken rhtyhm".
2) I repeat that my criticism is not of Aikido technique, which I have said is especially effective in the area of weapons retention/disarming. I am only suggesting that Aikidokas spar more.
Arthur42Dent 1 year ago
This is why you don't see any successful pure Aikidokas in MMA.
Unless you have a HUGE advantage in timing, rhythm, and balance, most Aikido techniques are so dangerous to attempt. If you try to slip to the inside/outside, commit both hands to 1 limb, or expose your side/back, but you fail to finish the technique, you are in a very bad position and will be brutally counter-attacked.
Arthur42Dent 2 years ago
to all the fellows that are questionning the efficiency and the credibility of aikido technics whenever u are facing another martial artist.......i would have to say that the most common mistake is that all the persons are judging the technic of aikido and whether it can be applied or not .....the answer is do not focus on the application just focus on the movement and if your movement is up to the standards then all application will come instantly and fluidly and u can control any1
flyingcrane100 2 years ago
Many will probably disagree with me, but aikijitsu was a battlefield art, and as such, it was assumed that your opponent was armed. I've found through trial and error that a many aikido techniques that are next to impossible to make work suddenly make sense when used against a sword-wielding opponent.
varanid9 2 years ago 2
aikido is badass.
aikidohippy 2 years ago
aiki-jujitsu was the original and aikido spawned...yadda yadda yadda...spawned different styles...yadda yadda yadda...peace love....touche my wrist and say that...yadda yadda yadda
grtwhtbnr 2 years ago
aikido vs aikido fine but aikido vs kick boxing no chne youl have to be very quick if you want to beat kick boxer. but nice martial sport and defence not knocking it but its not the best form of defence. kickboxing is excellent all rounder.
MrUKIDDING 2 years ago
nope... if a aikido throws the kick boxer to the ground and holds him down the kickboxer is having no chance
sorry for the baaad english but i was to lazy^^
ulkord 2 years ago
I want to see knife fighting not knife disarming. By the way all of these disarms can be made void and it could be learned by a person in 2 minutes. All I'm going to say is that it involves the checking hand. I love Aikido, but to really understand a knife you got to become a knife fighter.
ServantOfYah 2 years ago
без обид но вас последний лох на улице обассыт
1983482 2 years ago
y este señor es experto debe tener 15 0 20 años de aikido.te llegas a encontrar un tipo asi no salis vivo xD
joluks 2 years ago
Con todo respecto, una cosa es una pelea mano a mano. Y otra muy diferente una con un cuchillo. Si la persona realmente sabe usar un cuchillo es muy dificil que de aplicar las tomas. Es más podes terminar desangrado por los cortes. Una cosa es entrenar con alguien que conoces y otra muy diferente enfrentarte con alguien totalmente desconocido. Respeto el Aikido, pero contra un cuchillo, realmente la billetera no vale una vida!
eclipsegdr 2 years ago
dude from 1:20-1:33 that was one of the craziest slap fests ive ever seen
grtwhtbnr 2 years ago
::sigh:: aikidoka and their soap boxes "DONT STRIKE!" "DONT STAB THE GUY TRYING TO STAB YOU!" "AIKIDOKA DONT PUNCH OR KICK! WE USE THE POWER OF KI TO POLITELY NEGOTIATE THE ATTACK AND THROUGH THE LOVE OF TEH UNIVERSE WE WIN!"
seriously grow some juevos...
grtwhtbnr 2 years ago
i didnt know there was kicking in aikido?
TheSun97 2 years ago
@TheSun97 it wasnt really a kick, more of a post.
RazryadWarrior 2 years ago
in the old days aikido was 80% atemi waza (strikes) people dont read history anymore? jk jk
grtwhtbnr 2 years ago
I think they still teach strikes in Tomiki style aikido.
barbarydoll 2 years ago
the yoseikan, yoshinkan and tomiki styles of aikido and aiki budo are pre-wwii styles of aikido. the pre-wwii styles of aikido are more...whats the word...KERPLAH!...yup that about sums it up. Yoseikan members will take you to the ground and choke you out. Tomiki have knife fighting comps and yoshinkan practitioners know all kinds of locks. But all three have a strong judo influence as well as kendo. In those days you had to know Judo, kendo, sumo or jujits to train aikido
grtwhtbnr 2 years ago
@TheSun97 there is kicking but in real fight they lose from a simple kickboxing player!
celebratingfantasy 2 years ago
:) , ???????
SENSEIJOCIC 2 years ago
ooooo look! Its DOJO DANCE
LargeBlueCircle 2 years ago
WELL! we can dance if we want to. we can leave yoru friends behind! cus your friends dont dance and if they dont dance well then they aint no friends of mine...LOL
grtwhtbnr 2 years ago 2
@grtwhtbnr heheheh, yes i do agree with you. This is just demonstration.. but in real life ,, you can just shoot the Aikido master in his head and end the strory of Ueshiba.
Look the more techniques you use the more u lose your strength!
celebratingfantasy 2 years ago
Similar to Ju Jutsu, using kind of Aikido tecniques however should be he changed using his own way (especially about hiting, etc). Looks like effective however if talking this is real Aikdio I don't think so. However other effective way modified Aikido, I think.
TENGMAN2 2 years ago
this looks to me like aikido that is trying to turn back into aiki jiujitsu, and be combat effective again.
however, the techniques shown have tupical aikido problems that make them unsafe for real life.
in the first 15 seconds you can see the knife is not controled, and even passes by the armpit(lethal) uncontrolled as part of the technique.
maybe half of the techniques here have these problems that can mean death.
aikido is not meant for combat, aikijujitsu is.
choose the right one.
jimmymoltesanti 2 years ago 4
just out of curiosity, why would you want to turn INTO the angle of the attack as you often do here when he attacks toward your midsection?
Natebaber 2 years ago
aikido works for this becuse its a distance fight. not like judo where you go in and practicly hug him. what you do is wait for him to attack and by him having to move to close the distance ou manipulate it to ur advantage. it does work well. im being taught be the 8th dan here in colorado.
21526001270528 2 years ago
I think you mean 8th KYU. Unless you are going for 8th degree Black Belt?
Natebaber 2 years ago
So there's a "fake Aikido- knife fighting?"
clocwirkoj 2 years ago
if you have anything in head, let's say keys or a cell phone or an umbrella, use that as a weapon to counter attack, throw what u have in head on the opponents face especially nose , and attack the guy to unarm the knife , if you have nothing let him come closer , never act as superman, let him attack and try to escape till you find the best timing to disarm him , or try to use his balance against him ,then disarm. even if you are a real master , street is completly #, so be SMArt before acting.
strippoker23 2 years ago
there's a big factor that no one mentions is that the attacker is not ur training opponent, and the timing is unknown, and if you get attacked with a real knife , your heart would beat much faster since you won't be able to predict how he would attack you . that's why it's not only applying techniques but you should really have strong nerves and keep cool, and not only think what kind of technique i should use, since what u learnt is only a sample. be smart and use ur logic.
strippoker23 2 years ago 4
but everyone don't know how to use knife
uygargurkan 2 years ago 3
that never work in a real situation
einsiedler32 2 years ago 4
???
SENSEIJOCIC 2 years ago
escrimafighter will kill him in 3 sec
his technics doesnt work in real fight
einsiedler32 2 years ago
they work really well. it just looks weak. your not trying to actualy attack. your countering. im in aikido. its a grueling proccess, but pays off.
21526001270528 2 years ago
@einsiedler32 you r pretty much wrong bro..if you pay attention to what your sensei teaches you...
ejokurirulezz 1 year ago
@einsiedler32 Don't try to reason with these guys. If they thinks it works then that's fine fot them, maybe they will sleep better at night, I only hope they never get in a fight because they think their moves work.
bcibibcibcpCB 1 year ago
@bcibibcibcpCB acturly it dose ive been akido for 6 years and ive been in few fights and its worked evry time it all depends how good you are but seriosly dont diss it intill you try it (sory bad speling i know)
caseywerwolf 1 year ago
@einsiedler32 ofc it does.. -.-
i am only 6month practising real aikido and it can help
if u practise good its helping srsly
and the hand going on him its supposed to be the knive
papermaniacs 1 year ago
@einsiedler32 yes it will its happed with me 3 time's
you have to be quick
moe2744 1 year ago
that isn't the best form of aikido to show.... aikido is all about carrying your attackers momentum in a fluid an controlled manner!! its good martial arts but far from the original aikido techniques taught in japan...
heyimonspeed 2 years ago
WOW - that master teacher really has his top skills.
MillerMusicStudiosTV 2 years ago
My solution to a determined knife attack is a quick rearward motion, as I draw my concealed 45acp and fire two frangible rounds to the upper torso, followed by one to the low center of the head. Very effective technique for a determined knife attacker. In the event my weapon malfunctioned, I'm happy knowing that I have some hand to hand options available, rather than nothing Your a 2nd Dan? How the hell can you say "no such thing as fight against knife"? do you understand what fight means?
bigjohn927 2 years ago
you're 25, so your reply is for a 25 year old boy..
I've met many like you.. big mouths..
well
I see no further point of having any discussion with you
good like with your techniques
just I wish you to never be faced with real life situation to evaluate your 'options'
and yes
I've earned exactly what I've pointed out,
and there's why I say: there's no real life way to protect yourself from a knife skilled- determined assult...
over-and-out
bigtimeglupek 2 years ago
Everybody has the right to their own view, I respect that for sure. My argument is simply that one's chances are better, if they are confronted with a determined attacker, with a background consisting of disarmament training and drills. Very likely you'll be cut (almost certain) but you must admit it would be better than no training. But, the best real world option is the great equalizer, which like AMX, I don't leave home without. no knife can compete with 230grains of lead ;)
bigjohn927 2 years ago
my reaction to a knife attack is keeping him away from me using mileo-chagi(pushing kicks)
and then run away the first chance I get.
I don't own a gun, so that option is fail for me
lordtains 2 years ago
You have soem good points but id say it all depends on the situation really, and mostly the disatnce of the attacker, but what about those of us who live in countries where its ilelgal to carry a firearm, unless you are an armed police officer or in the army and on duty? As we prety much have to fall back to using hand to hand option, or prefferably if avaliable grabbing the nearest biggest stick/solid object.
tgnrogue 2 years ago
there is absolutely nothing aiki about this aikido. this is jujitsu. aikido doesn't hit the opponent because your not trying to hurt them. aikido is mostly throws and evasion. this is jujitsu because you would really hurt the opponent if you did these things. 90% of traditional jujitsu looks like aikido.
shoulung 2 years ago
it's not Jujitsu either though, it's Real Aikido, a Serbian martial art based on Aikido and Jujitsu and some others.
DynastyLuminous45 2 years ago
yeah I realize that. but the technique they use looks like its strait out of an old koryu style
shoulung 2 years ago
yeah things get mixed up heaps. but akido is a passive martial art. although in a real fight my friend acidently broke i guys arm you just can't predict how it will go shit happens even in training things can go wrong.
judoisoww 2 years ago
"aikido doesn't hit the opponent because your not trying to hurt them"
True in general, but Aikido does contain strikes.
tgnrogue 2 years ago
I agree. and yes I was speaking in general terms.
aikido does use some strikes, but their use is limited
aikido at its core is passive. while throwing someone can really hurt them. aikido doesn't aim to kill to the opponent. while it may happen, (guy cracks is skull open and dies of shock) aikido's aim is to disable to opponent while not killing them
something like jujitsu, the aim is to maim and kill. while disabling techniques exist, the main aim of the art is the destroy to the opponent
shoulung 2 years ago
Yes that is very true their use is limitedm but if you look at their use in some of the content of the Koryu no Kata's the use of Atemi seem to have a more dangerous role, striking to a set of pressure points that hit in the right order and timeframe that can cause Cardiack Arrest for example.example.
tgnrogue 2 years ago
If this is Real Aikido and different from the original Aikido...so what did Morei Ueshiba (the founder of Aikido) created?
slouttop 2 years ago
what is this song's name? its nice...
dkingmomo 2 years ago
it's by suicidal tendencies.. called" how will I laugh tommorow " awesome band..:)
salpi23 2 years ago
this is not aikido. these are aikido techniques modified to be used in a street fight: 4 example, they involves many atemi (striking) and some arm twisting that are not part of aikido.
anyway, we all must say that this method can be more helpful than aikido in a street fights.
PS: every martial arts student should adapt his art to himself, but also to the situation he must use in.
Ares1Thog 2 years ago
Many Martial arts(Kick boxer-Judo-Karate-Tea KWon do vs)Champions Died BY KNife cut *!!! thats not seems as this Training video!NOT as REALity!
masterofglosters 2 years ago
as a practitioner of *traditional* aikikai aikido,i have to say that i have never used nor seen so many tsukis(punches) or hits in any technique in aikido...therefore it has to be real aikido
tntdjtakhs 2 years ago 2
looks like real fuckin aikido to me. this is like the only other guy i think that understands that this stuff is suppose to work
undonetobin 2 years ago
Hang on a minute. Aikido was designed to protect yourself and the attacker. This seems to be designed to cause massive agony to the attacker. Calling it real aikido therefore seems a little inaccurate?
a06275 2 years ago
And throwing a guy in the street who doesn't know how to turn into a technique and beakfall, thus landing on his head isn't going to be seriously injured?
I mean yes the poin of Aikido is to be able, eventually ,to get ato a technical point hwere you can put them down without inuring them, but if you end up doing some techniqques, prely out of habbit in the street, theres not many ways of reducing the risk for them to be killed/injured.
tgnrogue 2 years ago
Always fight with honour, and respect your opponent.
Thats what my instructer says, and i am now a red belt with 2 yellow tags, But i may be up a couple of tags when you read this.
WiIIiamThePugLord 2 years ago
la posicion de la cámara no muestra la ejecución de la técnica... una lástima. 1 estrella.
cbuelot 2 years ago
Always secure the weapon!
Spartacus217 2 years ago 2
+1 spartacus
Premonitor 2 years ago
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baileym84 2 years ago
the name is COMBAT AIKIDO not real aikido
anbu022809 2 years ago
to the Serbian and signs ...
DesignJZ 2 years ago
your right the teckniks were used but then ( in my eyes ) they just used the aikidotechniks to kill...
aikidooo1 2 years ago
"real aikido" is not the same as normal aikido, dont you see?
Aur0rah 2 years ago
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aikidooo1 2 years ago
oh my god ...no aikido...at 5,35 hes killing hes enemy with the knife...o sensei cry´s...in every aikido move you be able to hit your enemy but only to shock him...and if your good you dont need to...(bad englich because i am german)
aikidooo1 2 years ago
did someone attacked you with knife???
SENSEIJOCIC 2 years ago
what do you want to say senseijocic... no i have never been attacked by a knife...and i dont want to...but what have killing to do with aikido...
aikidooo1 2 years ago
many aikido techniques were made and used by samurais for killing. From breaking necks and arms to, of curse, killing with knife.
nowadays aikido philosophy has changed. however, it was like this in his origins.
I suppose Jocic means that when someone tries to kill you with a knife (to KILL you), you just send it back with all you have, even if you have to kill too.
Premonitor 2 years ago
aikido wasn't created by samurai, it's jiu jitsu that goes back that far
auronguy 2 years ago
the teckniks to break bones in every way is called koppo jutsu ...and it have nothing to do with aikido...
aikidooo1 2 years ago