IMO, Apple switching to Intel was probably one of the smartest moves Apple has ever made. The PowerPC was great for it's time, but Intel world was catching up and even blowing by PowerPC because IBM could not figure out a way to improve the G5. Think of all the great features that have emerged into OSX with Intel CPU's. If they would have stayed with PowerPC, lots of technology would not have been developed due to the PowerPC's lack of an x86 architecture.
Both cars use the same platform, and the same powertrain. The Lexus costs more, but it is more refined (higher quality fit and finish, smoother and more luxurious).
Both computers use the same platform (Intel x86 architecture) and the same powertrain (similar CPU's, memory, video cards, etc.). The Mac costs more, but is much more refined (higher quality fit and finish, better and smoother user interface, etc.).
Amd yet apple was bashing intel for making half as fast cpu's as the power PC's, apple users are brainwashed and know nothing about computers. Everyone knows apple uses generic foxconn motherboards and the cheapest compodents and mark up their prices 400%.
@REPOMAN24722 Intel had really shitty speeds in their "Pentium" era. They switched because of the Core series. They make their own motherboards (but manufactured by Foxconn) or else it won't fit on their computers.
the right thing to do is make mac os x install on pcs. i know we can, but its always a hassle finding the right .kext and patches to make the system run.
@mickyd110011 No, that goes against everything Apple and most importantly Steve would never of done. If you want the OSX OS you buy a Mac plain and simple, it's the same reason why IOS only works on Apple devices and not Nokia, HTC, Samsung etc
Apple operates on a close eco-system and that is what has made them successful, controlling both hardware and software makes a better experience for the user
@mickyd110011 I think that would be apple shooting themselves in the face. They seem happy enough us geeks doing it if we can, but I doubt they will make it official. Apple had bad experiances with licensing out mac os in the past...
Back in middle school I had those god awful first gen imacs with g3 chips. And they were running at faster mhz then our windows 98 dells. Yet the Dells easily outpaced the imacs in every thing we needed them to do. So much so that our district actually stopped buying macs because intel chips were faster and we could only get them in windows systems.
Now my former school district never went back to macs even after the intel transition because mac service contract cost 3-4x as much.
I hate apple's marketers... they turn something that has already been invented and in use for many years and put it in their machines and somehow its "REVOLUTIONARY" fuck apple seriously.
@Chintendoeddman I wouldn't be suprised to be honest. Let's face it, OS X can be run on AMD hackintosh systems and can run without too many issues. Imagine if Apple were messing with AMD, it would work perfectly. I think it would be silly to think Apple haven't been messing around with AMD just to see what works and what doesn't. Oh, and the new bulldozers from AMD? awesome chips ;)
If we are going like this that means 2021 is the year of mac os XI. Think about it.
Apple publishes a new operating system every two years. Now. If mac os x lion comes tommorow that means that mac os x 10.8 comes 2013. plus i add two years every release. So 2015: mac os 10.9. 2017 mac os x 10.10 (maybe) And... 2019: mac os XI. At that year apple introduces mac os XI. And it's gonna come out 2 years later because they fixing it. Just like they did with mac os x when it was first introduced. OMG
@JoelB3783 It will never, EVER happen. With Intel's new 3D transistor, x86 will be as good as ARM in the mobile space, and consider Apple already has a solid relationship with Intel.
Also, no Arm exists that could possibly handle OSX plus 'any' software of such caliber. ARM will most certainly not makes its way into any Macbook, , not even the Air. Don't worry :)
Just because there is no desktop class ARM chip at the moment doesn't mean there won't be in a few months/years.
Intel has an advantage in manufacturing technology and years of development of desktop class processors, but the x86 architecture itself is less efficient than ARM.
I think it's very unlikely that the architecture that established itself a quarter of a century ago and kept dominant so long for compatibility reasons is still the most efficient today.
@Molo9000 Did you not here about Intel's next gen Tri-Gate? You obviously haven't. And why don't you elaborate on just exactly the type of hard lifting processing the ARM will be capable of? You think it can handle Gaming? Video rendering? What about VIRTUAL MACHINES?
You're making serious assumptions about ARM capability, that couldn't possibly come within 5 years, "no roadmap exists for what you suggest!" If, and when, Moore's Law fails, then perhaps the entire industry will move to ARM.
Intel's new tri-gate transistor is just another advantage in manufacturing technology, not architecture itself. There is no reason why ARM manufacturers couldn't develop equally good manufacturing processes soon.
ARM has partnered with IBM to achieve just that.
Fact is that ARM is a more efficient architecture. The main reason it's not used in desktops is the Wintel monopoly.
@Molo9000 Look, I'm all for a debate, but your not educated enough to have this discussion. It is 100% a new architecture, what in the world are you talking about....I ask? They've completely redesigned the transistor itself, this is a tock cycle for Intel. You're terribly misinformed, and dare I say arrogant.
ARM is efficient in extreme low power devices, you simply don't understand what X86 is. Put a 3 watt ARM Cpu into a desktop PC, and watch it take a full year to boot< Metaphor, it wouldnt
The tri-gate transistor is still a transistor. It's more power efficient and offers more performance, but it's still just another step forward in manufacturing transistors. Using transistors efficiently is another story.
I'm no expert on computer architecture or x86 or ARM, but I can't believe that an instruction set that established a monopoly 25years ago and had lots of stuff added to it over the years is still the best possible instruction set today.
@Molo9000 Also you don't give ARM enough credit, they're already manufacturing as good as anyone in the world, you just don't understand, ARM is a VERY specific technology, with very low power form factor it's target. To develop an ARM, with ZERO instruction sets that support modern operating systems, for high end heavy lifting processing is the most bizzare notion I've read on this subject. Please, please I'm not beating up on you, you simply do not understand what ARM is. Go to Wiki, PLEASE.
@LessthanJake14 Never. ARM cannot handle OSX, or any software that runs on it. Also Ivy Bridge is coming, with Tri-Gate/3D Transistor technology that will allow x86 to perform on low power like ARM, but also allow great, x86 performance. ARM will never enter the notebook space. It will not penetrate any higher than medium spec Slate/Tablet.
@supercooldude2121 Intel processors are so much better than Powerpcs dude. Majority of consumers use intel so it was only logical for Apple to switch. The is one of the smartest moves Apple has ever made, because it opened up so many new doors for compatibilty.
Really? I see lots of stuff that works with OS 10.4+ as long as it has a PPC G5 processor, although it'll work on intel too due to the fact all macs built now are made with those processors.
@supercooldude2121 search tenfourfox (it's firefox 4 for PowerPC) and if you're on a G4 (slower ones) install mactubes it play well when switch to quicktime!
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You don't multiply the clock speed x cores on the die. It simply doesn't work that way. For example, I might have a 2 GHz dual core, but the operational frequency of both cores may only be 2.5 GHz all together.
Why can't I run some programs in my powerpc Mac that are designed for intel Macs? I mean, I don't have this problem with my PCs. My AMD PC can run the exact same programs my Intel PC can. Why is this a problem with the mac?
@Pagweb PowerPC and Intel processors are two totally different processor architectures. Intel and AMD both have the same x86/ x64 Architectures while PowerPC has some thing else, i dont know of, maybe x87?
@cool2040coasters ARE YOU CRAZY Intel was crated in the early 1970s where their first product , the Intel 4004 4-bit processor was used in calculators, followed by the 8008 on the C64, DOS and other Operating Systems. Then the 80186 16-Bit Processor cam out this time running Interface Manager or in other words, Windows. 80286, 80386, and the 80486 , all 16-Bit then the Pentium came out, this time 32 Bit and running Linux, Pentium 1 / II / III / 4 / D and now running Mac OS X the Core series.
@cool2040coasters er..think again smart guy. OSX is an OEM Operating System. It can't (legally) be run on any other computer. It was an early Intel Mac prototype.
@ipwncrackas well you really know nothing do you LOL, if Apple did that the cost would go up dramatically. Most likely be double what costs now, as the would be cost for research and development, the cost for transitioning software etc, the factories needed to build the chips to meet supply and demand, plus it would make things more complicated to the average consumer. so really do your research before posting
I wonder if they are still compiling Mac OS X for PowerPC. :-) Wasn't the whole idea to use Intel processors in iPhone/iPad? Now they're not... they could go back to PowerPC for desktops and notebooks.
@deivuuk i doubt they could move back to PPC for desktops now because of BootCamp. Windows is not compatible with PPC processors as far as I know. however, they probs ARE still developing for PPC as a just in case.
Yes Power PC is when Apple start a project called mkLinux where Apple want to make their own Linux distribution ... At the same time Steve Jobs was coping BSD at NeXTSTEP / to create OpenStep OS ... Openstep later was bought by Apple to make Mac OS X ...
Apple copies lots of open source operating system and have for years... I use Linux , BSD, and Windows 7 on my HP / PC and they work great... Linux, and BSD have no known viruses... So who need a Mac ? No one...
@borhos222 Because it's unaligned in the Intel logo. So basically by doing that he confirmed the rumor that they would switch to Intel before he even announced it shortly after.
If only Apple had made one last 64 bit version of Mac OS optimized just for the PPC like they did with Snow Leopard for Intel. 10.5 is great, but it is a little bloated and I'd love to see a quad G5 smoking away on a fully 64 bit OS.
Everyone should just boycott Apple for such a greedy and wormy move like this, especially during a recession. What a bunch of assholes! People's businesses are been shut down and these scumbags are saying "Well if you want to stay in the game and compete you better be willing to fork over the money you don't have to do so". I knew these people were corrupt as it comes. They need to be taught a lesson and lose a lot of business.
Screw Apple! They completely made my G5 tower that I had only a couple of years obsolete with this big greedy move to try and sucker all their old patrons into buying new systems all together. Well fuck you! I am never buying any apple product again that doesn't comply to my G5 that I spent a shit load of money on. The intel chips aren't any better and they could have made all upgrade software compatible with both systems but they are to greedy to do so!
@myoldshorts AFAIK the Power Macs where great systems, the problem was that PowerPC developement was stagnating, so Apple had to choose, either switch, or become extinct
@myoldshorts That's the way technology goes and that's not only Apple: that's everyone. I just bought a Full HDTV last year and today I could have gotten an LED TV for the same price and size. That's just the way it goes. Apple isn't gonna wait 5-7 years waiting for YOU to be tired of your Mac before making a new one, so stop being a whiny bitch because you don't have to buy their products. Apple isn't one to blame, it's everyone.
@lepolohuevo Okay you're an idiot. I'm not talking about them putting out a new computer. I'm talking about them switching product completely so that everyone has to buy all new systems in order to upgrade any software when they didn't have to. Sorry your stupid enough to think that this is alright to do in any Business Ethics. Because of people like you it makes it easy for them to FUCK PEOPLE OVER!
steve jobs is so good. think of how he sets up what he says and make it work with his demonstrations. billgates stutters and basically is a bad public speaker
@cinemascene umm because MS sell cheap ass crap so poorer people can afford to buy there products and since there are more poor than well of people in the world PC's dominate, that doesn't mean PC's are better it just means what the majority can afford, now i have been a mac user 12 years & i currently own 9 Macs and they are brilliant machines :D
Really? I can build a unique, one-off pc that outperforms any mac for less money. Apple isn't more expensive because it's better, it's economics 101, the more of something you sell, the cheaper you can sell it for while maintaining profit. Also macs are more expensive because idiots keep paying that much for under-performing machines.
@RCTPatriot75 and if you read the news recently you'd know that Apple surpassed Microsoft as the largest tech company. Macs are more expensive for several reasons, your paying the privilege to use OS X, the quality of the Macs, & the design
@macnerd93 You know for half the price if not less you could build your own custom computer and only spend the $30 for Mac OS X, Project x86 has a wiki on what parts you need to build you computer, after all said and done you have a fully functional Mac computer with parts you don't need to spend an arm and a leg for
@Geeker1982 thing is though I've built PC's for people I have no intention of owning one after all the problems i had & don't even get me started at how unreliable OS X Hackintosh can be, put it this way some bootups on some builds can be slower than 10 year old + macs booting Leopard. I'd rather spend the extra money & that is why I own a MacBook, eMac, Power Mac graphite, Power Mac Quicksilver, 3 Mac minis, an Apple display & a new unibody MacBook Pro :P
@macnerd93 ahh but if you pick your parts correctly and spend time to edit the dsdt then you can get a fully functioning mac for half the price that is 100% reliable ive never had a crash and been using them since 10.5.6
@macnerd93 i never said it was long i just said that for nearly 2 years i havent had a single problem just takes patience and not to rush in like a bull in a china shop then say there shit and upredictable
its nice to watch Job's presentations. however, people sometimes is retarded, they laugh at everything he does or says . for example, 4:25, he is just drinking water ffs.
@DonLduk You have to view this the context of the time. The web was flooded with rumors of a switch and that OS X already existed for x86. Developers really wanted it, but knew there would be huge hurdles to go through.
Steve basically made a lot of people happy with this AND alleviated some of the potential hurdles. They were giddy with excitement. It was almost like Christmas morning for the attendees.
@s043487263 I think it's really an old iMac Prototype that didn't have a core duo. After all, it was 2005, and the intel core line didn't come until Q1 of 2006.
I was just joking because the only time I used OSX and it said I was using a Pentium 4 on "About this mac", It wasn't on a mac, it was on my gateway 420GR.
Yes, in a way he was. They used normal PCs (I've heard they were Dells actually LOL) with a special BIOS Apple flashed them with. No Mac ever used a Pentium, by the time Macs with Intel came out they were using much faster CoreDuos and Xeons in the Pro.
Actually, the Intel x86 processors today have RISC and CISC aspects. In some instances the x86 chip "translates" CISC code into RISC-like micro-ops and then back to CISC code. As processors have ramped up in overall speed, CISC has moved a bit towards RISC and vice versa, so as I understand things, the instruction set is blurred as compared to back in the mid-1990's when there were clear distinctions between RISC and CISC.
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Apple has announced that PowerPC was up to twice as fast as its Intel. Apple switched to Intel but Has Apple Been Lying to Us???
For the last 12 years, we've been hearing how the RISC architecture (found in PowerPC) was so much better than the CISC architecture (used in Intel's x86 family) - and now, after all this time, Apple is abandoning that?
Intel Pentium 4... yeah!
youbeat2008 1 week ago
IMO, Apple switching to Intel was probably one of the smartest moves Apple has ever made. The PowerPC was great for it's time, but Intel world was catching up and even blowing by PowerPC because IBM could not figure out a way to improve the G5. Think of all the great features that have emerged into OSX with Intel CPU's. If they would have stayed with PowerPC, lots of technology would not have been developed due to the PowerPC's lack of an x86 architecture.
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So, OS 10 has set apple up for the next 20 years, well, they have already gotten through 7! 8 more years with OS 10.
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So OS X has been cheating on the past 5 years? You witty OS!
JohnHFilms 2 months ago
And 4 years later... your $3000 Mac can't run the latest OS. Nice little bonus for Apple. ;-)
beejor 2 months ago
@beejor i can install it on my old Macbook ;)
MustangGT500KRFever 2 months ago
I just fully realized he's gone and that really sucks.
wartorn09 3 months ago
why did the audience keep laughing? steve didnt seem amused
ALLYCAT591 3 months ago
i fucking love apple. steve was a brilliant. a creative and insightful developer. i miss him already.
dandini2999 3 months ago
PC / Windows = Toyota Camry SE V6
Apple / Mac OS X = Lexus ES
Both cars use the same platform, and the same powertrain. The Lexus costs more, but it is more refined (higher quality fit and finish, smoother and more luxurious).
Both computers use the same platform (Intel x86 architecture) and the same powertrain (similar CPU's, memory, video cards, etc.). The Mac costs more, but is much more refined (higher quality fit and finish, better and smoother user interface, etc.).
jerseyemt 3 months ago 18
@jerseyemt Dude... I just took an screenshoot of that! AWESOME.
JohanRolwen 1 month ago
Amd yet apple was bashing intel for making half as fast cpu's as the power PC's, apple users are brainwashed and know nothing about computers. Everyone knows apple uses generic foxconn motherboards and the cheapest compodents and mark up their prices 400%.
REPOMAN24722 3 months ago
@REPOMAN24722 Intel had really shitty speeds in their "Pentium" era. They switched because of the Core series. They make their own motherboards (but manufactured by Foxconn) or else it won't fit on their computers.
JohnHFilms 2 months ago
Well NextStep was processor-independently built. so since OS X's launch, I always assumed the same to be the case with OS X.
ryanthetaylor 3 months ago
rip steve
ieatwiteoutforfun 3 months ago
rip
ieatwiteoutforfun 3 months ago
the right thing to do is make mac os x install on pcs. i know we can, but its always a hassle finding the right .kext and patches to make the system run.
mickyd110011 3 months ago
@mickyd110011 No, that goes against everything Apple and most importantly Steve would never of done. If you want the OSX OS you buy a Mac plain and simple, it's the same reason why IOS only works on Apple devices and not Nokia, HTC, Samsung etc
Apple operates on a close eco-system and that is what has made them successful, controlling both hardware and software makes a better experience for the user
MMOTotal 3 months ago
@mickyd110011 I think that would be apple shooting themselves in the face. They seem happy enough us geeks doing it if we can, but I doubt they will make it official. Apple had bad experiances with licensing out mac os in the past...
MasterHackintosh 2 weeks ago
Back in middle school I had those god awful first gen imacs with g3 chips. And they were running at faster mhz then our windows 98 dells. Yet the Dells easily outpaced the imacs in every thing we needed them to do. So much so that our district actually stopped buying macs because intel chips were faster and we could only get them in windows systems.
Now my former school district never went back to macs even after the intel transition because mac service contract cost 3-4x as much.
Windows>mac
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I hate apple's marketers... they turn something that has already been invented and in use for many years and put it in their machines and somehow its "REVOLUTIONARY" fuck apple seriously.
cravedave01 4 months ago
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iKSA1AMA 4 months ago
was laughster added to this vid?
superviewer 5 months ago
i miss you steve!
chillinur36 5 months ago
4:16 evolution of apple haha
cravedave01 5 months ago
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cravedave01 5 months ago
Steve looked much much better here
Vaelorm 5 months ago
Next year: And it turns out that every version of Mac OS X since Tiger is compatible with AMD............. just in case........
Chintendoeddman 6 months ago 9
@Chintendoeddman It is man, they are both x86 or x86_64 processors.
ralverdo 4 months ago
@Chintendoeddman yeah ur right, rumors also say that
bharatkumargupta 1 month ago
@Chintendoeddman Because it's x86. That's it.
hyperipod 2 weeks ago
@Chintendoeddman I wouldn't be suprised to be honest. Let's face it, OS X can be run on AMD hackintosh systems and can run without too many issues. Imagine if Apple were messing with AMD, it would work perfectly. I think it would be silly to think Apple haven't been messing around with AMD just to see what works and what doesn't. Oh, and the new bulldozers from AMD? awesome chips ;)
MasterHackintosh 2 weeks ago
And consider adding AMD to the lineup Permanently.
drjustin84 6 months ago
@drjustin84 Makes me curious as to how well Bulldozer will fair compared to Intel's Core's.
Titanz91 5 months ago
I predict he was 5-6 years short on os x
drjustin84 6 months ago
4:26 laughing sheeps o.o He's just drinking XD
Anth0nyRey 6 months ago
5:27 Woz
drruggeri 6 months ago
Cheers Steve. Thanks to this change you made, we are able to run os x on our pc's :)
MasterHackintosh 6 months ago
If we are going like this that means 2021 is the year of mac os XI. Think about it.
Apple publishes a new operating system every two years. Now. If mac os x lion comes tommorow that means that mac os x 10.8 comes 2013. plus i add two years every release. So 2015: mac os 10.9. 2017 mac os x 10.10 (maybe) And... 2019: mac os XI. At that year apple introduces mac os XI. And it's gonna come out 2 years later because they fixing it. Just like they did with mac os x when it was first introduced. OMG
vajksziget7a 6 months ago
I would like to find the pentium 4 machine he was working on in that keynote just for kicks ya know/
TheMonsodyl000 6 months ago
@TheMonsodyl000 That was a mac pro prototype. You can google it to see some pictures.
vajksziget7a 6 months ago
Steve said that Mac OS X has set them up for the next 20 years. So that means no Mac OS XI until 2021?
jschmitz23 6 months ago
powerpc turns intel ;D
ultimatetoturial56 7 months ago
man Steve was chunky back then.....get well soon steve we need ya
espnchris 7 months ago
HOLY FUCKING CRAP!
...Steve Jobs isn't wearing jeans.
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SamsonGiles 8 months ago
This is sorta a depressing thought.... "Set us up for the next 20 years..." It's 11 years later steve. Get ready for OS 11/XIXI
JoelB3783 8 months ago
Steve looked Buff back then...goes to show, your health is the most important thing you have folks...
huggeebear 8 months ago
I hope to god that this was the last Fuking transition!
JoelB3783 8 months ago
@JoelB3783 There are rumours they're shifting over to ARM processors on Macbook by 2013.
LessthanJake14 8 months ago
@LessthanJake14 oh GOD! I hope they stay rumors.
JoelB3783 8 months ago
@JoelB3783 It will never, EVER happen. With Intel's new 3D transistor, x86 will be as good as ARM in the mobile space, and consider Apple already has a solid relationship with Intel.
Also, no Arm exists that could possibly handle OSX plus 'any' software of such caliber. ARM will most certainly not makes its way into any Macbook, , not even the Air. Don't worry :)
HypnoticSuggestion 8 months ago
@HypnoticSuggestion
Just because there is no desktop class ARM chip at the moment doesn't mean there won't be in a few months/years.
Intel has an advantage in manufacturing technology and years of development of desktop class processors, but the x86 architecture itself is less efficient than ARM.
I think it's very unlikely that the architecture that established itself a quarter of a century ago and kept dominant so long for compatibility reasons is still the most efficient today.
Molo9000 8 months ago
@Molo9000 Did you not here about Intel's next gen Tri-Gate? You obviously haven't. And why don't you elaborate on just exactly the type of hard lifting processing the ARM will be capable of? You think it can handle Gaming? Video rendering? What about VIRTUAL MACHINES?
You're making serious assumptions about ARM capability, that couldn't possibly come within 5 years, "no roadmap exists for what you suggest!" If, and when, Moore's Law fails, then perhaps the entire industry will move to ARM.
HypnoticSuggestion 8 months ago
@HypnoticSuggestion
Intel's new tri-gate transistor is just another advantage in manufacturing technology, not architecture itself. There is no reason why ARM manufacturers couldn't develop equally good manufacturing processes soon.
ARM has partnered with IBM to achieve just that.
Fact is that ARM is a more efficient architecture. The main reason it's not used in desktops is the Wintel monopoly.
Molo9000 8 months ago
@Molo9000 Look, I'm all for a debate, but your not educated enough to have this discussion. It is 100% a new architecture, what in the world are you talking about....I ask? They've completely redesigned the transistor itself, this is a tock cycle for Intel. You're terribly misinformed, and dare I say arrogant.
ARM is efficient in extreme low power devices, you simply don't understand what X86 is. Put a 3 watt ARM Cpu into a desktop PC, and watch it take a full year to boot< Metaphor, it wouldnt
HypnoticSuggestion 8 months ago
@HypnoticSuggestion
The tri-gate transistor is still a transistor. It's more power efficient and offers more performance, but it's still just another step forward in manufacturing transistors. Using transistors efficiently is another story.
I'm no expert on computer architecture or x86 or ARM, but I can't believe that an instruction set that established a monopoly 25years ago and had lots of stuff added to it over the years is still the best possible instruction set today.
Molo9000 8 months ago
@Molo9000 Also you don't give ARM enough credit, they're already manufacturing as good as anyone in the world, you just don't understand, ARM is a VERY specific technology, with very low power form factor it's target. To develop an ARM, with ZERO instruction sets that support modern operating systems, for high end heavy lifting processing is the most bizzare notion I've read on this subject. Please, please I'm not beating up on you, you simply do not understand what ARM is. Go to Wiki, PLEASE.
HypnoticSuggestion 8 months ago
@LessthanJake14 Never. ARM cannot handle OSX, or any software that runs on it. Also Ivy Bridge is coming, with Tri-Gate/3D Transistor technology that will allow x86 to perform on low power like ARM, but also allow great, x86 performance. ARM will never enter the notebook space. It will not penetrate any higher than medium spec Slate/Tablet.
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vastrevenue74Ad 9 months ago
i wish they did not do this. Now my Power Pc mac wont work with anything because its all for intel
supercooldude2121 10 months ago
@supercooldude2121 It's been five years, let it go man. PPC is dead as a doornail for anything except servers and game consoles.
JonJahren 10 months ago
@supercooldude2121 get a hackintosh
blobface007 9 months ago
@supercooldude2121 Intel processors are so much better than Powerpcs dude. Majority of consumers use intel so it was only logical for Apple to switch. The is one of the smartest moves Apple has ever made, because it opened up so many new doors for compatibilty.
TAKEAPlLL 9 months ago
@TAKEAPlLL its the smartest move because people can run windows + os x
Jullzzzz 9 months ago
@Jullzzzz exactly...
TAKEAPlLL 9 months ago
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Really? I see lots of stuff that works with OS 10.4+ as long as it has a PPC G5 processor, although it'll work on intel too due to the fact all macs built now are made with those processors.
codeythesilent 9 months ago
@supercooldude2121 search tenfourfox (it's firefox 4 for PowerPC) and if you're on a G4 (slower ones) install mactubes it play well when switch to quicktime!
ma5599 8 months ago
Wise man! The MacPro has 12 physical cores now (Thats 24 virtual!), so as the MacBook Pros which features Quad-Core i7 Turbo-Boost processors!
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jnadecks1 10 months ago
I would love to go to a Apple Keynote sooooooooo bad <3
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sirinferno 10 months ago
@sirinferno It would be neat to see lmao....:/
BrandonScott1001 10 months ago
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daniding1 11 months ago 2
jobs looks like he's having fun doing this. these keynotes wipe the floor with the best macroshaft has to offer.
thebestofall007 11 months ago
it;s funny because they'll switch back at RISC (ARM). lol
pixelr0 11 months ago
i dont care steve where the hell is my 3.0ghz processor
rg6ivan 1 year ago 46
@rg6ivan well, take a look at the current line of iMacs, before the inevitable 2011 update.
venichen1 10 months ago
@rg6ivan In every Mac except the base 11" MacBook Air. If you add up the cores, they are all over 3.0 easy.
1997mf878 10 months ago
@1997mf878
You don't multiply the clock speed x cores on the die. It simply doesn't work that way. For example, I might have a 2 GHz dual core, but the operational frequency of both cores may only be 2.5 GHz all together.
codeythesilent 9 months ago
@rg6ivan They did make a 3.0Ghz Mac, but it was short lived since lower clocks and more cores made up for the 3Ghz.
AnimeFunTV 8 months ago
@rg6ivan Aww, at least he's honest. He gave you a 2.7ghz powermac, and lets be honest it could still melt your face now.
spameister 8 months ago
@rg6ivan It's in iMacs. Not 3.0 dead, but 3.1 and 3.4.
MarkuzLee 5 months ago
Why can't I run some programs in my powerpc Mac that are designed for intel Macs? I mean, I don't have this problem with my PCs. My AMD PC can run the exact same programs my Intel PC can. Why is this a problem with the mac?
Pagweb 1 year ago
@Pagweb PowerPC and Intel processors are two totally different processor architectures. Intel and AMD both have the same x86/ x64 Architectures while PowerPC has some thing else, i dont know of, maybe x87?
86123maxxi 1 year ago
@Pagweb PowerPC and X86(Intel) are like a diesel engine and a gas engine.
sergo40 11 months ago
Was that mac running 3.6 GHz?!!!!!
miniteichman 1 year ago
Wow he sure is full of shit.
Cheedillow 1 year ago
lol "Alright, enough of that"
qlet 1 year ago
That's vision!
angelusp777 1 year ago
what computer was he using i know it wasnt a mac because intel werent created yet
cool2040coasters 1 year ago
@cool2040coasters what on earth are you talking about
OakridgeProductions9 1 year ago
@cool2040coasters WTF????
hirstey 1 year ago
@cool2040coasters yes it was, its an imac g5
miniteichman 1 year ago
@cool2040coasters ARE YOU CRAZY Intel was crated in the early 1970s where their first product , the Intel 4004 4-bit processor was used in calculators, followed by the 8008 on the C64, DOS and other Operating Systems. Then the 80186 16-Bit Processor cam out this time running Interface Manager or in other words, Windows. 80286, 80386, and the 80486 , all 16-Bit then the Pentium came out, this time 32 Bit and running Linux, Pentium 1 / II / III / 4 / D and now running Mac OS X the Core series.
86123maxxi 1 year ago
@cool2040coasters er..think again smart guy. OSX is an OEM Operating System. It can't (legally) be run on any other computer. It was an early Intel Mac prototype.
j800r 1 year ago
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cool2040coasters 1 year ago
APPLE= PREMIUM
WINDOWS= GENERAL
aniketroxx 1 year ago 23
@aniketroxx There are Windows based PC's that cost several thousand dollars, ya'know. Oh, and don't you mean "Microsoft= General"?
Titanz91 5 months ago
@aniketroxx depends on the manufacture. dell, hp and other companies can make premium machines, they do and don't .
gundambob646 4 months ago
I think Apple should start making all of their devices with their own chips. Then products would sell more because it will be cheaper.
ipwncrackas 1 year ago
@ipwncrackas nah they'd make some excuse up to make them more expensive...
simoro1 1 year ago
@ipwncrackas well you really know nothing do you LOL, if Apple did that the cost would go up dramatically. Most likely be double what costs now, as the would be cost for research and development, the cost for transitioning software etc, the factories needed to build the chips to meet supply and demand, plus it would make things more complicated to the average consumer. so really do your research before posting
macnerd93 1 year ago
hahah pentium 4
druemichaelbuono 1 year ago
@druemichaelbuono don't knock Pentium 4. It can still scream running the latest Ubuntu. also, this was back in 2005 remember :P
j800r 1 year ago
I wonder if they are still compiling Mac OS X for PowerPC. :-) Wasn't the whole idea to use Intel processors in iPhone/iPad? Now they're not... they could go back to PowerPC for desktops and notebooks.
deivuuk 1 year ago
@deivuuk i doubt they could move back to PPC for desktops now because of BootCamp. Windows is not compatible with PPC processors as far as I know. however, they probs ARE still developing for PPC as a just in case.
j800r 1 year ago
Set Apple Up For 20 Years? That Means That There Should Be A Mac OS 10.20
MSComputerVideos 1 year ago
THIS. CHANGES. EVERYTHING.
UltimaLinkStephen 1 year ago
i'm 130000 Visit!!
iJulio32 1 year ago
@iJulio32 here's an invisible medal :-)
pixelr0 1 year ago
@pixelr0 hahahaah!!!
iJulio32 1 year ago
i love apple kay notes
every one just laughs like if it was a comedy show
puggy605 1 year ago
and 5 years later i have an intel macbook.
cowsrock94 1 year ago
no jeans!!!! Black pants!
gtgidemgreen 1 year ago
@gtgidemgreen shame he didn't change his top as well :P
j800r 1 year ago
seriously, what is it that ppl ffind so amusing? they're loling all the time :S maybe its me who doesnt have any humor :P
dapigistalkin 1 year ago
07:31 what the audience laughing at?
iamgodgvn 1 year ago 2
Steve Jobs knows how to make the best keynotes!
Sweeper1890 1 year ago
I didn't know there was a Pentium 4 Mac
onthenetgear 1 year ago
he was way fatter here
isaiahcruz 1 year ago
It is funny how Apple always used to make fun of Intels Cpu's.
btnerd 1 year ago
I hope apple starts making their own processors by the time os11 comes out
YEE941 1 year ago
Yes Power PC is when Apple start a project called mkLinux where Apple want to make their own Linux distribution ... At the same time Steve Jobs was coping BSD at NeXTSTEP / to create OpenStep OS ... Openstep later was bought by Apple to make Mac OS X ...
Apple copies lots of open source operating system and have for years... I use Linux , BSD, and Windows 7 on my HP / PC and they work great... Linux, and BSD have no known viruses... So who need a Mac ? No one...
maw88ify 1 year ago
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maw88ify 1 year ago
lol wtf? I didn't know that...
THAT'S WHY I LOVE APPLE SO MUCH^
TheMaxidrache 1 year ago
i miss all these little snippets of surprise Apple used to employ in his keynotes.
Antphoneigh 1 year ago
@ATHODrew Hahah, why was the 'e' unaligned?
borhos222 1 year ago
@borhos222 Because it's unaligned in the Intel logo. So basically by doing that he confirmed the rumor that they would switch to Intel before he even announced it shortly after.
ATHODrew 1 year ago
@ATHODrew Oh ! That isss clever.
borhos222 1 year ago
If only Apple had made one last 64 bit version of Mac OS optimized just for the PPC like they did with Snow Leopard for Intel. 10.5 is great, but it is a little bloated and I'd love to see a quad G5 smoking away on a fully 64 bit OS.
insaneiaq 1 year ago
this is the were hakintosh was born ;)
GMELECTRONICS365 1 year ago
Sorry for the Type-Os but I'm a little upset and typing on a mac!
myoldshorts 1 year ago
Everyone should just boycott Apple for such a greedy and wormy move like this, especially during a recession. What a bunch of assholes! People's businesses are been shut down and these scumbags are saying "Well if you want to stay in the game and compete you better be willing to fork over the money you don't have to do so". I knew these people were corrupt as it comes. They need to be taught a lesson and lose a lot of business.
myoldshorts 1 year ago
@myoldshorts That was '05, no recession
sundhaug92 1 year ago
Screw Apple! They completely made my G5 tower that I had only a couple of years obsolete with this big greedy move to try and sucker all their old patrons into buying new systems all together. Well fuck you! I am never buying any apple product again that doesn't comply to my G5 that I spent a shit load of money on. The intel chips aren't any better and they could have made all upgrade software compatible with both systems but they are to greedy to do so!
myoldshorts 1 year ago
@myoldshorts AFAIK the Power Macs where great systems, the problem was that PowerPC developement was stagnating, so Apple had to choose, either switch, or become extinct
sundhaug92 1 year ago
@myoldshorts That's the way technology goes and that's not only Apple: that's everyone. I just bought a Full HDTV last year and today I could have gotten an LED TV for the same price and size. That's just the way it goes. Apple isn't gonna wait 5-7 years waiting for YOU to be tired of your Mac before making a new one, so stop being a whiny bitch because you don't have to buy their products. Apple isn't one to blame, it's everyone.
lepolohuevo 1 year ago
@lepolohuevo Okay you're an idiot. I'm not talking about them putting out a new computer. I'm talking about them switching product completely so that everyone has to buy all new systems in order to upgrade any software when they didn't have to. Sorry your stupid enough to think that this is alright to do in any Business Ethics. Because of people like you it makes it easy for them to FUCK PEOPLE OVER!
myoldshorts 1 year ago
@lepolohuevo
Exactly, EXCELLENT opinon! PErforma 5500/275
Thumb up!
From a Macintosh 5500/275 with a PowerPC 603 inside :)
Pergiacomo 1 year ago
steve jobs is so good. think of how he sets up what he says and make it work with his demonstrations. billgates stutters and basically is a bad public speaker
badsaddamdotnet 1 year ago
Steve Jobs not only helped Apple set standards across the worlds, he kind of set standards for presentations/keynotes.
Khalduknight 1 year ago
if Microsoft is a "photocopier", then why is BILL GATES much much richer than Steve "skinny gay-boy" blow-jobs?
cinemascene 1 year ago
@cinemascene umm because MS sell cheap ass crap so poorer people can afford to buy there products and since there are more poor than well of people in the world PC's dominate, that doesn't mean PC's are better it just means what the majority can afford, now i have been a mac user 12 years & i currently own 9 Macs and they are brilliant machines :D
macnerd93 1 year ago
@macnerd93
Really? I can build a unique, one-off pc that outperforms any mac for less money. Apple isn't more expensive because it's better, it's economics 101, the more of something you sell, the cheaper you can sell it for while maintaining profit. Also macs are more expensive because idiots keep paying that much for under-performing machines.
RCTPatriot75 1 year ago
@RCTPatriot75 thing is though I'm not interested in owning a PC, i've built plenty in my time & well i prefer my macbook pro.
my Mac is fast enough for me, has a 2.53Ghz Core 2 Duo, 8 GB RAM and a 500GB HD
macnerd93 1 year ago
@RCTPatriot75 and if you read the news recently you'd know that Apple surpassed Microsoft as the largest tech company. Macs are more expensive for several reasons, your paying the privilege to use OS X, the quality of the Macs, & the design
macnerd93 1 year ago
@macnerd93 You know for half the price if not less you could build your own custom computer and only spend the $30 for Mac OS X, Project x86 has a wiki on what parts you need to build you computer, after all said and done you have a fully functional Mac computer with parts you don't need to spend an arm and a leg for
Geeker1982 1 year ago
@Geeker1982 thing is though I've built PC's for people I have no intention of owning one after all the problems i had & don't even get me started at how unreliable OS X Hackintosh can be, put it this way some bootups on some builds can be slower than 10 year old + macs booting Leopard. I'd rather spend the extra money & that is why I own a MacBook, eMac, Power Mac graphite, Power Mac Quicksilver, 3 Mac minis, an Apple display & a new unibody MacBook Pro :P
macnerd93 1 year ago
@macnerd93 ahh but if you pick your parts correctly and spend time to edit the dsdt then you can get a fully functioning mac for half the price that is 100% reliable ive never had a crash and been using them since 10.5.6
nerologic101 1 year ago
@nerologic101 10.5.6 wasn't very long ago LOL, try me I've been using proper Macs since Mac OS 8 in 1998 :P
macnerd93 1 year ago
@macnerd93 i never said it was long i just said that for nearly 2 years i havent had a single problem just takes patience and not to rush in like a bull in a china shop then say there shit and upredictable
nerologic101 1 year ago
yeah Mr & Miss Smith :D
wahoow007 1 year ago
Go Apple
wingnutstudios 1 year ago 46
I mean Steve Jobs keynotes are great to see
reck101101 1 year ago 72
its nice to watch Job's presentations. however, people sometimes is retarded, they laugh at everything he does or says . for example, 4:25, he is just drinking water ffs.
DonLduk 2 years ago
@DonLduk You have to view this the context of the time. The web was flooded with rumors of a switch and that OS X already existed for x86. Developers really wanted it, but knew there would be huge hurdles to go through.
Steve basically made a lot of people happy with this AND alleviated some of the potential hurdles. They were giddy with excitement. It was almost like Christmas morning for the attendees.
theeponym 1 year ago
@DonLduk cause many Mac zealot are "gay-boys", so they see Steve-blow-jobs' drinking action from a bottle as sucking a gay dick.
cinemascene 1 year ago
@DonLduk Probably more nervous laughter about major transitions.
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mikeG584 2 years ago
6:22
He's using a Hackintiosh!
commodore256 2 years ago 3
most likely he is using a mac pro with intel that was released not too long after this
s043487263 2 years ago
@s043487263 I think it's really an old iMac Prototype that didn't have a core duo. After all, it was 2005, and the intel core line didn't come until Q1 of 2006.
I was just joking because the only time I used OSX and it said I was using a Pentium 4 on "About this mac", It wasn't on a mac, it was on my gateway 420GR.
commodore256 2 years ago
Apple never released a Mac with a P4 chip.
lifeinhd 2 years ago
The Apple TV runs OS X Leopard with Tiger extensions on a P4.
HarTek96 2 years ago
Yes, in a way he was. They used normal PCs (I've heard they were Dells actually LOL) with a special BIOS Apple flashed them with. No Mac ever used a Pentium, by the time Macs with Intel came out they were using much faster CoreDuos and Xeons in the Pro.
compactc9 2 years ago
@compactc9 I read that they shipped a special modified Pentium for for Power Mac G5
macnerd93 1 year ago
@macnerd93 Interesting. Would be nice to get ahold of that if it existed. I'd like to run Snow Leopard on my G5.
compactc9 1 year ago
@compactc9 na they gave them back to Apple, i'm pretty sure every developer did considering Apple gave them a free Core Duo iMac for doing so
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vancar6 2 years ago
Actually, the Intel x86 processors today have RISC and CISC aspects. In some instances the x86 chip "translates" CISC code into RISC-like micro-ops and then back to CISC code. As processors have ramped up in overall speed, CISC has moved a bit towards RISC and vice versa, so as I understand things, the instruction set is blurred as compared to back in the mid-1990's when there were clear distinctions between RISC and CISC.
corgi75082 2 years ago
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Apple has announced that PowerPC was up to twice as fast as its Intel. Apple switched to Intel but Has Apple Been Lying to Us???
For the last 12 years, we've been hearing how the RISC architecture (found in PowerPC) was so much better than the CISC architecture (used in Intel's x86 family) - and now, after all this time, Apple is abandoning that?
tseng45 2 years ago
What the hell are you talking about???This video is from
2005
dsgh55978 2 years ago 5