GANO EL DE A/A,PERO LA ESCENA ESTA MAL,ENSEÑA LA PAREJA DE A/A, COMO UNICA VENCEDORA, SI EL OPONENTE EN VEZ DE A/9,LLEVASE 9/9,TENDRIA POQUER, Y GANARIA LA MANO
he knew he couldn't have had a poker and there was no chance of a straight flush. You'd hve to be insanely lucky to get hand like his! the russian was winning from the flop
Teddy: "It's a position raise, I call" = "I am strong and I will trap"
Mike's face at 0:38, 0:50, 1:29 "I am so weak and insecure" = "I am strong!"
Mike "cos I don't think you have the spades" = "lol, I have a full house, spades are probably no good"
And if Teddy doesn't have the spades and Mike is representing trips, two pairs or top pair (worse than spades) than why raise? Teddy won't call anyway. Maybe that's metagame that I don't get...
Very simple. What flush draw calls the river shove-in by Damon? But in 1997, many players would make this call. The game has evolved so much that your common 16 yr old online playing .50-1.00 NL will fold -- not so then
I disagree-KGB called the raise preflop-then flat calls his flop bet of $2000.00-he has to think to himself-what could he call my preflop raise with AND the flop bet of $2000.00 with-once he hits his full house though, he HAS to go broke-only mistake he made at that point was bringing his whole bankroll to the club...
Not in this case, because by reraising all in, the only hand that's going to call him is the one that has him beat. He's getting no value by raising. A simple call is the better play.
Very true unless teddy had a set of eights or Ace eight there is no way he makes that call. He lays down the king high flush. It may be true that you have the best hand 99 percent of the time but would you risk your roll for that 1 percent to not even maybe getting called. Risk isn't worth reward with second nuts there I would of just called as well.
first of all dip shit it was suited a9 and when you play heads up you have a 75% chance that no one else is holding that ace. So before you start to piss and moan about how much you know about poker you better figure a couple of things out first dipshit.
First of all i was commenting on another comment but since you're asking i'll give you a free lesson.. You have 2% chance to hit a flush preflop with an off suit hand and 5% with a suited hand, making the gained edge from the suitedness very marginal.. Second, if you hold an ace, three aces are remaining in the deck so the chance of your opponent holding one is only about 12% ((1/50*100)*3)*2.. you go figure who the dip shit is sir..
could someone explain to be what KGB had to beat the full house. Im trying to learn poker. I want to know if the answer I have in my mind is the correct one.
Yea I just realized what he had the other day. It made sense when I understood what KGB said. he had said "Aces full Mike." I was like ooooooooooo now I see what he has lol. Thanks man
I love this movie. I nver knew about this movie until I caught it on cinemax one day. This movie caught my attention. Mat Damon was great in this movie. Edward Norton was funny as hell. Worm, great name for his character. I have to put this in my dvd collection. Its nice cause i watch bourne than I watch this and vise versa and I just say damn that same guy is Jason Bourne. Great movie thanks for posting
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Funny story... during a home game, a good buddy of mine was dealer, since he was out. He deals me A9 of clubs... then whispers to me while everyone else was talking, "Look familiar"...
lol that is funny. Poker experts on youtube. U know all the expert are on here no matter the topic. karate, mma, video games, u name it. I just alwayz wanted to learn how to play poker though. Can u play?
You would have to be retarded not to push there is you're Matt. AA is the only possible hand to beat him there, and KGB played it to perfection. Phil Helmuth would maybe, not very likely, but possibly, be the only player in the world to just staight call that river bet.
I'm shocked that noone mentioned KGB's real tell. It is when he calls Mike McD's flop bet. Watch how he puts the chips in. He puts them further from him, then takes them closer to his stack, sublimnally saying that he will be taking the chips back after the hand is over. Bet close, strong hand. Bet away, probably donating chips. McD should have picked up on it he didnt. He later tells Kanish that Teddy outplayed him. ACES FULL MIKE....
I'd love to see a scene where Mike tells Knish that he finally figured out Teddy's tell and Knish balls him out for revealing it. "Uh, Mike, everyone in town knows about the Oreo thing. Why do you think so many people play at Teddy's? Hint: it's not for the charming company."
yeah, exactly. pocket aces is the only hand that beats him, no way you're going to assume someone has the nuts, especially the way Teddy played it. Without the flush card, Matt Damon's character might have been a bit more hesistant, but even then, you'd probably want to at least call. Great play by Teddy though: Matt says the 9 was his money card, well the flush card was Teddy's (so that he could represent that hand)!
The question is, why would Damon assume Teddy would strong bet a flush...even the nut flush...on a paired board? Especially a paired board with an ace?
What is Teddy supposed to THINK Damon has? An unadorned 9? An ace with no particular kicker? Who would go all-in with a hand can't beat a flush here?
AA, A9, 99, 88, 33, 98, 93 all have a flush beat. None of those hands is implausible, since Damon could well have been stealing with his "puhzeeshun rays."
This is the only correct statment here....you don't play with your wholde roll....Mike's not folding that hand ever...If he did, he'd be the worst player
All you can say about this is before you go and bet money like this, remember to pratice reads. He missed that one read but he later learns. The move was right it was just he over bet the pot. Maybe another 500 then check then 500. I only bet that kind of money when i got 4 of a kind or str8 flush...Good movie thanks for posting
- yess, teddy calls a 2000 bet for a 1000 pot on a 5to1 shot knowing your going to make another turn bet if theres a blank. for teddy to correctly call the flop with a flush draw, he'd need to induce a 7000 bet/call on the turn if he hit (2:3 pot odds, need 1:5, so 2:10 = 1:5 = 7k more needed in pot to call the 2k).
I've seen this a hundred times but this just occurred to me. KGB turns over his aces and walks off like he's got the nuts. His lackey comes over and sweeps up the chips, all before Mike turns over his cards. Yes, it's a longshot, but pocket 9s would have ruined Teddy's party.
people keep talking about how unlikely all this stuff is...you must not play poker or be very good...you don't play the cards you play the player...anyone can win if you have good cards but the best players learn to play players...im not saying i wouldnt have made the same decision Matt Damon did i probably would have..im just saying he didnt consider what KGB could've had that beat him...had he thought about it he may have been able to minimize his losses
haha ur fucking stupid...you act like it can't happen...the odds of getting a full house are 1 in 586.1 the odds of getting quads are 1 in 3,914...just because i haven't seen it doesn't mean it can't happen lol. it has happened before i CAN GUARANTEE THAT and it WILL HAPPEN AGAIN.
a flushdraw would'nt call an all-in bet with a paired board. A call on river from Mike is the right move. Only a better hand can call that all-in move.
I don't like the reraise all-in. I wouldn't like a fold either. Should have just called and lost ten grand. Everyone loses when they have second nuts vs. nuts.
I am confused: why does Matt overbet the flop? He is going to scare away any flush draw, straight draw, top pair, even bottom two pair. The only possibl call is from a set. When the turn comes 9, he can narrow it down to 88 or AA. And he doesn't have to worry about flush draws as both of them must have full house now.
many hands would have called him there... 10,J of spades is possible.. a set..probly even AK that puts damon on a flushdraw and its unlikely that he has a set of aces.. 9 out of 10 players would move in there.. its so unlikely that he has aces
damon should not have put kgb on spades when kgb smooth-called the big overbet - who smooth-calls a big overbet on the flop with an obvious flush draw? also, on the river, any thinking opponent would have seen through what damon said before he went all-in ("I'm all-in because I don't think you have the spades") because if damon did really think his opponent busted on a flush draw then he would have checked - why would anyone bet into someone they think busted on a draw?
The DVD commentary is instructive. Hellmuth, Chan, etc. agree that Mike's play in this hand was fine, his only mistake was re-raising at the end of the hand. As they say, there's only one hand that beats Mike's A9, why risk going broke if KGB has it? Just call the $15000. Raising another $33,000 he probably only gets called by the hand that beats him.
That was the mistake that Teddy's bodyguard started to take the chips before he saw Mike's cards!HE could have had 99.And that would have been better than Teddy's AA
silsbadabing . your analysiz are appatently pretty wannabees. Why would anyone with real talent would explain things on youtube. besides your analyze has a lot of holes. lol hope to see u at local casino moron ;=)
He was waiting for matt to go all in, cause the guy behind matt signals something to KGB, prob that he has a good hand but worse. He would not play aces full that cool otherwise.
Once the second nine hits, there's simply no getting away from the hand. That being said, the hand was played awkwardly all around. Saying "it's a position raise, I call it", could you possibly give off a bigger tell that you're *not* just calling because you think he's stealing? Putting KGB on a flush draw when he calls a 2x the pot bet on the flop? Betting 3x the pot when you're trying to get aces full paid off?
Oh, thank God for this expert analysis. How could those retards who did the second audio track on this movie, notably Phil Hellmuth, Chris Ferguson, Chris Moneymaker and Johnny Chan, have missed out on the weakness of this play and more wrongfully even have approved of it.
Such freaking noobs.
Everybody knows that in heads-up and short-handed situations it's just completely insane to play aggressive and therefore totally gives away a strong hand if you do.
Vice versa not even the brightest of players might pickup on a slowplay and therefore bet strong into a tiny pot later on or call such a bet to pay you off big time.
After all this is a cash game in which getting bad reverse implied pot odds are no big deal in the long run.
And then the overbet (if being called) allures you to keep raising after the flop and making it seem like you are trying to prevent your opponent from getting correct pot odds and therefore creating a huge pot you might still loose in case of a badbeat.
Finally there's no way of KGB sitting on flush draw with him calling 2000$ into a pot already over 3000$ (3000 Mike + small blind from the Asian fellow) with only 35% chance to make the hand. Totally maniac move on his side. Doesn't he know this is a no limit game in which potential future bets and the stack of your opponent play no role whatsoever and you should be playing only for the current pot.
Thanks again for the incredible insight thegreenleprechaun. I'm sure the whole poker community is anxious to see you kicking those so-called pros' asses, who apparently don't know jackshit about this game, on the WSOP this year.
the analysis of this Rounders hand by most of the posters (especially silsbadabing) is horrible. The most important loophole that defeats all their arguments is the fact that poker has no standards of play. The best players mix up their gameplay and can adjust to any playing environment.
sometimes playing aggressive can entice your opponents to think you're weak when you're not; you can also find out how strong your opponent is by betting aggressive if he calls. this can work in short-handed and heads-up game, too. Michael's play was not weak.
look everyone,heres the thing when you have an ace and there is and ace on the board.you dont expect the other person to have pocket rockets.especially whe 2 other poeple layed down their hand.and that means that the kgb had to been either big blind or small blind.kgb could have had suited J,Q which would have given him a middle straight draw along with a flush draw.either way they would have been beaten by a full house.
i agree. If there's only half the aces in a deck left you're not going to expect the opposition to have both of them! It's only a movie at the end of the day. Besides, how many of us have had this kind of bad luck?!
didnt you hear mikey. he said against an average guy you would set a bear trap (hardly bet at all). but KGb is to smart for it so what he has to do is overbet the pot (looking like he is trying to buy it)
It's all a bit silly anyway as it's unlikely a player like Mikey would bet out 2x the pot on the flop with top2 and it's even less likely you'd bet 3x the pot with the near nuts on the river!
It's not realistic that Mikey still thinks KGB has spades once he bet the river. Just because he says "I don't think you've got the spades", doesn't mean he actually thinks he does. On the river KGB bets 15k into a 5k pot! - there's no way Mike would think he'd do that with a flush on a paired board. My point was other than AA, 88 is the only hand you can put KGB on when he bets the river.
of course he is thinking that KGB has the spades... he is just saying "I don't think you have the spades", because he wants to get a call of KBG with a flush and he beats it with his full house.... bad luck KGB has the Aces...
No, KGB says "it's a position raise". He's saying Mikey is stealing the blinds from the button. Notice Mikey is dealing - this means he has position (acting last after the flop). AA are the only cards that beat Mikey, and when KGB bets out so much on the river, it's nearly impossible to put him on it. It's not said, but when Mikey reraises all-in and says "I don't think you have the spades", he'd probably be thinking KGB had 88.
"An out of position raise- I call it." Now that is what I call sick... I hear that from my oponent, I am not putting him on aces. But what made him put Teddy on a flush draw anyway?
GANO EL DE A/A,PERO LA ESCENA ESTA MAL,ENSEÑA LA PAREJA DE A/A, COMO UNICA VENCEDORA, SI EL OPONENTE EN VEZ DE A/9,LLEVASE 9/9,TENDRIA POQUER, Y GANARIA LA MANO
Magia10Ronaldinho 1 week ago
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negrocapo85 1 week ago
@negrocapo85 me gusta la gente que habla de si misma :D
Magia10Ronaldinho 1 week ago
ouch, i felt for him. unlucky
he knew he couldn't have had a poker and there was no chance of a straight flush. You'd hve to be insanely lucky to get hand like his! the russian was winning from the flop
AAgibsonAA 2 months ago
Yeah, cookie tell, but there are others:
Teddy: "It's a position raise, I call" = "I am strong and I will trap"
Mike's face at 0:38, 0:50, 1:29 "I am so weak and insecure" = "I am strong!"
Mike "cos I don't think you have the spades" = "lol, I have a full house, spades are probably no good"
And if Teddy doesn't have the spades and Mike is representing trips, two pairs or top pair (worse than spades) than why raise? Teddy won't call anyway. Maybe that's metagame that I don't get...
jakubfox 4 months ago
Teddy is very quick to his feet, Mike was only 1 card away from quads lol
daytona0 4 months ago
string bet?
stokey72 6 months ago
who won?
GivesGives 11 months ago
@GivesGives the russian guy matt damon had AA999 and the russian guy had AAA99 it is a higher full house then he won
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KingOfDiamonds717 1 year ago
Thats gotta suck!
mrbusters 1 year ago
Nice string bet by Teddy at 2:02
meltdownup 1 year ago
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Ramchandonuts 1 year ago
@meltdownup Are YOU gonna call him on a string bet with his 300 pound Russian goons around?
2redaces 1 year ago
They should have given Mike pocket 9s and had him slowroll Teddy like a motherfucker.
meltdownup 1 year ago 4
That hurtssss
wandag89 2 years ago
I think the director should have shown damon and kgb play 3 times in the movie not 2
wiseguy1989xx 2 years ago
what a weird and random thing to think about this movie
andos8888 2 years ago
Who knew a cookie cook be a tell...
bobzani 2 years ago
Dont touch my oreo cookies you son of bitch.
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kolegamikolaja 2 years ago
If Matt Damon were replaced by Ziigmund Teddy KGB would totally be getting slowrolled by 99 here. "F U Russian Muppet"
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FullTiltStaff 2 years ago
Very simple. What flush draw calls the river shove-in by Damon? But in 1997, many players would make this call. The game has evolved so much that your common 16 yr old online playing .50-1.00 NL will fold -- not so then
jhalas20 2 years ago
If you had that full house 9's in real life, you'd be smart to go all in because most likely they have a flush, and it's very unlikely they have AA.
Go all in if the odds are with you 90%+.
But in this case, it's just a movie. In real life, damon woulda won.
gbmack2000 2 years ago
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kolegamikolaja 2 years ago
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afwoods 3 years ago
great movie, like it a lot, like watching my own life, brrrr.
pokerhuis 3 years ago
damn that happens to me a lot too FHSAHFSH
xkrntylsekkix 3 years ago
wouldve been awesome if after teddy says 'aces full mike', matt damon flips over pocket nines and tells him to go fuck himself
SlutSmasher66 3 years ago
Ahhh... but it would be less civil, less mature, and less respectful thus guaranteeing his murder by Teddy's boys which is not so awesome.
ianonline 3 years ago
Yeah, what did Amarillo Slim say about not playing poker with people who will kill you if you win?
JShankel 3 years ago
Now thats a bad beat lol
rapurnell 3 years ago
No, it's not. Mike was a 4-1 underdog pre-flop, so he SHOULD have lost. Mike overplayed his hand.
2redaces 3 years ago
Yeah, always fold the second nuts. Oh, wait, no that's in Omaha.
JShankel 3 years ago
No, he shouldn't have folded. He should have just called the $15K at the end. Then he'd still have $33K to play another day.
2redaces 3 years ago
Too true. Damon has to figure himself for the best hand (no reason to put Teddy on AA), but the all-in has little chance of getting called by a flush.
The board is paired with an Ace and Damon is representing that a flush would have him beat.
So, Teddy is supposed to think Damon is going all-in with, what, a 9?
JShankel 3 years ago
I disagree-KGB called the raise preflop-then flat calls his flop bet of $2000.00-he has to think to himself-what could he call my preflop raise with AND the flop bet of $2000.00 with-once he hits his full house though, he HAS to go broke-only mistake he made at that point was bringing his whole bankroll to the club...
squirtdrinkr 2 years ago 2
You never call that hand. He has the best hand there 99% of the time. Always get all of your money in with the best hand.
He should have managed his bankroll.
tsk tsk
sureshot1031 3 years ago
Not in this case, because by reraising all in, the only hand that's going to call him is the one that has him beat. He's getting no value by raising. A simple call is the better play.
2redaces 3 years ago
Very true unless teddy had a set of eights or Ace eight there is no way he makes that call. He lays down the king high flush. It may be true that you have the best hand 99 percent of the time but would you risk your roll for that 1 percent to not even maybe getting called. Risk isn't worth reward with second nuts there I would of just called as well.
bcsolorza 3 years ago
Why on earth would he have called holding ace eight? two pair with a mediocre kicker...
MCDDTracks 2 years ago
first of all dip shit it was suited a9 and when you play heads up you have a 75% chance that no one else is holding that ace. So before you start to piss and moan about how much you know about poker you better figure a couple of things out first dipshit.
cmk61478 2 years ago
First of all i was commenting on another comment but since you're asking i'll give you a free lesson.. You have 2% chance to hit a flush preflop with an off suit hand and 5% with a suited hand, making the gained edge from the suitedness very marginal.. Second, if you hold an ace, three aces are remaining in the deck so the chance of your opponent holding one is only about 12% ((1/50*100)*3)*2.. you go figure who the dip shit is sir..
MCDDTracks 2 years ago
@cmk61478 75%? lmao
testlertank 1 year ago
A guy like KGB probably has someone watching the guy's cards through a hole in the wall.
MondoBeno 3 years ago
could someone explain to be what KGB had to beat the full house. Im trying to learn poker. I want to know if the answer I have in my mind is the correct one.
boygenius7 3 years ago
matt has 999AA
teddy has AAA99
it is the highest trips that win.
APersson78 3 years ago
Yea I just realized what he had the other day. It made sense when I understood what KGB said. he had said "Aces full Mike." I was like ooooooooooo now I see what he has lol. Thanks man
boygenius7 3 years ago
I love this movie. I nver knew about this movie until I caught it on cinemax one day. This movie caught my attention. Mat Damon was great in this movie. Edward Norton was funny as hell. Worm, great name for his character. I have to put this in my dvd collection. Its nice cause i watch bourne than I watch this and vise versa and I just say damn that same guy is Jason Bourne. Great movie thanks for posting
boygenius7 3 years ago
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Funny story... during a home game, a good buddy of mine was dealer, since he was out. He deals me A9 of clubs... then whispers to me while everyone else was talking, "Look familiar"...
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NoStingsAttached 3 years ago
Why was the dealer looking at your cards?
adam0czar 3 years ago
there's the beauty of this game...
matteopieraccioni 3 years ago
Suddenly everyone on youtube becomes a Poker expert
Viccy182 3 years ago 2
I concur
Tbone055 3 years ago
lol i agree
BenMoss66 3 years ago
I love how everyones an expert on Youtube.
downRupLyB 3 years ago
lol that is funny. Poker experts on youtube. U know all the expert are on here no matter the topic. karate, mma, video games, u name it. I just alwayz wanted to learn how to play poker though. Can u play?
boygenius7 3 years ago
You would have to be retarded not to push there is you're Matt. AA is the only possible hand to beat him there, and KGB played it to perfection. Phil Helmuth would maybe, not very likely, but possibly, be the only player in the world to just staight call that river bet.
cowboys170 3 years ago
Good play by KGB
plzwakeup 3 years ago
but not aware play
1ELBOSS1 3 years ago
I'm shocked that noone mentioned KGB's real tell. It is when he calls Mike McD's flop bet. Watch how he puts the chips in. He puts them further from him, then takes them closer to his stack, sublimnally saying that he will be taking the chips back after the hand is over. Bet close, strong hand. Bet away, probably donating chips. McD should have picked up on it he didnt. He later tells Kanish that Teddy outplayed him. ACES FULL MIKE....
declansharbor1 3 years ago
I'd love to see a scene where Mike tells Knish that he finally figured out Teddy's tell and Knish balls him out for revealing it. "Uh, Mike, everyone in town knows about the Oreo thing. Why do you think so many people play at Teddy's? Hint: it's not for the charming company."
JShankel 3 years ago 10
I love KGB's accent. So nice.
It's a great movie.
haz3231 3 years ago
I'll pay $5 to see this scene recut w/Damon playing pocket 9s. How do you like THEM apples, Teddy?
JShankel 3 years ago 2
yeah, nothing like slamming someone with the pure nuts.
EmilNoldSinclair 3 years ago
Aces full Mike
ryanjg34 3 years ago
thats realy suck man!
killerbniller 3 years ago
show biz
cyber9rounder1 3 years ago
hahaha damn
thatz so bad, poor damon haha
gr8 film thiz, absolutelee luv it :)
welcome2thagoodlife7 3 years ago
The real problem here is that Matt Damon's character was playing way over his bankroll.
EGarrett01 3 years ago
"The real problem here is that Matt Damon's character was playing way over his bankroll."
That is, in fact, his ONLY mistake, and one he spends the next 90 minutes not figuring out.
What was he supposed to do? Put Teddy on AA? Fold?
The movie gives the impression that good poker players never guess wrong.
If you're not losing the occasional big pot, you're not playing well.
It's simple: don't play poker with money you can't afford to lose. Every pro knows that.
JShankel 3 years ago
yeah, exactly. pocket aces is the only hand that beats him, no way you're going to assume someone has the nuts, especially the way Teddy played it. Without the flush card, Matt Damon's character might have been a bit more hesistant, but even then, you'd probably want to at least call. Great play by Teddy though: Matt says the 9 was his money card, well the flush card was Teddy's (so that he could represent that hand)!
EmilNoldSinclair 3 years ago
The question is, why would Damon assume Teddy would strong bet a flush...even the nut flush...on a paired board? Especially a paired board with an ace?
What is Teddy supposed to THINK Damon has? An unadorned 9? An ace with no particular kicker? Who would go all-in with a hand can't beat a flush here?
AA, A9, 99, 88, 33, 98, 93 all have a flush beat. None of those hands is implausible, since Damon could well have been stealing with his "puhzeeshun rays."
JShankel 3 years ago
Excellent phonetic spelling of the Russian accent there.
It would be hilarious if Mike showed 99 after Teddy showed AA.
MJPerry 3 years ago
This is the only correct statment here....you don't play with your wholde roll....Mike's not folding that hand ever...If he did, he'd be the worst player
Mulroydon 3 years ago
sometimes.. you just have to risk it all .
airharm 3 years ago
i like how after watching the clip everyone thinks they can win the world series of poker on here
kingOG 4 years ago 2
should have moded him and showed 99. should have also called him on that string bet
haammyy 4 years ago 2
damn it !!! big nuts !!
rsl84 4 years ago
haha bartap me either
phillies26116 4 years ago
Every holdem player knows about full houses, there's a huge difference between little-full and big-full.
Snootwaller 4 years ago
can't do anythimg against that hand
stavivonSlap 4 years ago
All you can say about this is before you go and bet money like this, remember to pratice reads. He missed that one read but he later learns. The move was right it was just he over bet the pot. Maybe another 500 then check then 500. I only bet that kind of money when i got 4 of a kind or str8 flush...Good movie thanks for posting
ElitePokerPlayer 4 years ago
terrible raise since Teddy is never calling with the flush draw and will probably even fold smaller boats.
MadDogQ 4 years ago
'my guess it teddy's on a flush draw'
- yess, teddy calls a 2000 bet for a 1000 pot on a 5to1 shot knowing your going to make another turn bet if theres a blank. for teddy to correctly call the flop with a flush draw, he'd need to induce a 7000 bet/call on the turn if he hit (2:3 pot odds, need 1:5, so 2:10 = 1:5 = 7k more needed in pot to call the 2k).
daytona0 4 years ago
a great movie,,,thanks for the post.
ChipChatPoker 4 years ago
Ever since this movie came out, all-of-a-sudden every guy likes to think of himself as Matt Damon or Ed Norton from this movie!
krogdog 4 years ago
hey its uncle teddy
sampson7858 4 years ago
I've seen this a hundred times but this just occurred to me. KGB turns over his aces and walks off like he's got the nuts. His lackey comes over and sweeps up the chips, all before Mike turns over his cards. Yes, it's a longshot, but pocket 9s would have ruined Teddy's party.
bartap74 4 years ago 2
this is exactly why you shouldnt play cash games!
blondmonkey420 4 years ago
this is part 1/12
hoganmac 4 years ago
NUTS!
kingjames117 4 years ago
anyone knows whats the translation of this movie in greek?
mikekoube 4 years ago
yeah, gang bang party sluts
deee1979 4 years ago
oh let me think... hm so if in greek its called gang bang party sluts in uk its called gang bang party cocksuckers?
MakisKoube 4 years ago
no. you,re holding the translation upside down
deee1979 4 years ago
quality film
wales203 4 years ago
Give this myan hees money...
m4rkyboy 4 years ago
we recite this movie at work every day... i feel AhKeyAYY!!
briduff78 4 years ago
in heads up, u will defintely go all in with a full house. the problem in Mike's case is that it involves his entire bankroll!
xcalibus 4 years ago
i love this game and movie
igotnuclearbombs 4 years ago
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Only fags play poker!
pskillz500 4 years ago
FUCK OFF! YOU'RE THE FAG!!!
Izldr 4 years ago 2
You must be down a lot. Hahahaha
Jay333888 4 years ago
"you don't play the cards you play the player"
very well said. thats the entire game in a nutshell.
mickdavis550 4 years ago
"QUADS-FULL, KGB!!! in yo FACE! wooooo!!!"
andrexh 4 years ago
KGB seems to have a fake-out tell: acting like a Russian jerk.
SayNotoCheaters 4 years ago
id like to see the player who just calls there
slarsen88 4 years ago
I would if my whole bankroll was at stake and then left the game. With 5 buyins or more obv not ;)
AkuJoe84 4 years ago
people keep talking about how unlikely all this stuff is...you must not play poker or be very good...you don't play the cards you play the player...anyone can win if you have good cards but the best players learn to play players...im not saying i wouldnt have made the same decision Matt Damon did i probably would have..im just saying he didnt consider what KGB could've had that beat him...had he thought about it he may have been able to minimize his losses
flylike1 4 years ago
I think in real life mike would get cleaned out even by a semi pro, but worm is a real card shark. he would hold his own against the best.
mickdavis550 4 years ago
Are you kidding me? Worm can't crack a room full of amateurs without cheating, and you say he could hold his own against the best?
2redaces 4 years ago
I would consider suicide if I was Mike, the chances of that happening are so slim.
Viccy182 4 years ago
Yea I would kill myself if I lost my life savings in 2 minutes on a poker hand.
dldowell1122 4 years ago
Don't
Cornampoo 4 years ago
all of yall must know nothing about poker yall are telling me you would lay down a full house 3 handed?
Viccy182 4 years ago
ok mike had outs...KGB didnt even wait to see what he had but he could've had 9-9 giving him quads...beating KGBs full house
flylike1 4 years ago 2
shut up dumbazz, when have u seen that ever happen.
dldowell1122 4 years ago
haha ur fucking stupid...you act like it can't happen...the odds of getting a full house are 1 in 586.1 the odds of getting quads are 1 in 3,914...just because i haven't seen it doesn't mean it can't happen lol. it has happened before i CAN GUARANTEE THAT and it WILL HAPPEN AGAIN.
flylike1 4 years ago
yea, i introduced my friend to NLHE, and at his 2nd live game, he turned over quad jacks... so sick.
asong1588 4 years ago
a flushdraw would'nt call an all-in bet with a paired board. A call on river from Mike is the right move. Only a better hand can call that all-in move.
fredrikstenbacka 4 years ago
Wow, that sucks.
BytorocolypseXII 4 years ago
I don't like the reraise all-in. I wouldn't like a fold either. Should have just called and lost ten grand. Everyone loses when they have second nuts vs. nuts.
dlb8685 4 years ago
he put him on the flush though..so of course hes gonna go all in..and hes gotta expect a call..
lithium687 4 years ago
why did he overbet the pot? - he explains it himself, jesus.
good film.
whitecollarhobo 4 years ago
if damon did win there wouldnt be the rest of the movie! he would be going to vegas!!!
jackjiezhang 4 years ago 2
i love how all you guys are commentating about if they played the hand well or not..you idiots do know its just a movie right? hahaha.
slicer1028 4 years ago
Thank You
danigirl00 4 years ago
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yea, sometime i couldnt believe how serieous people can be with a movie either.
jackjiezhang 4 years ago
I am confused: why does Matt overbet the flop? He is going to scare away any flush draw, straight draw, top pair, even bottom two pair. The only possibl call is from a set. When the turn comes 9, he can narrow it down to 88 or AA. And he doesn't have to worry about flush draws as both of them must have full house now.
maltzXD 4 years ago
he had two pair and he's worried about the flush draw.
daveedicus 4 years ago
not going to bother...
wiseguy1989x 4 years ago
many hands would have called him there... 10,J of spades is possible.. a set..probly even AK that puts damon on a flushdraw and its unlikely that he has a set of aces.. 9 out of 10 players would move in there.. its so unlikely that he has aces
slarsen88 4 years ago
u gottahand it to KGB..made it seem like he's got the flush..slow playing his Aces full
Izldr 4 years ago
he should have waited collecting the chips, as pocket 9's is the unbeatable nuts with that board
JohnBontus 4 years ago
damon should not have put kgb on spades when kgb smooth-called the big overbet - who smooth-calls a big overbet on the flop with an obvious flush draw? also, on the river, any thinking opponent would have seen through what damon said before he went all-in ("I'm all-in because I don't think you have the spades") because if damon did really think his opponent busted on a flush draw then he would have checked - why would anyone bet into someone they think busted on a draw?
trada9 4 years ago 2
it's a movie
MikeHockisuge 4 years ago
onoes! You left out the best part. Where mike looks stunned that he lost it all! Just another minute more...
shinesinpines 4 years ago
kgb plays good =P
gurra12345 4 years ago
The DVD commentary is instructive. Hellmuth, Chan, etc. agree that Mike's play in this hand was fine, his only mistake was re-raising at the end of the hand. As they say, there's only one hand that beats Mike's A9, why risk going broke if KGB has it? Just call the $15000. Raising another $33,000 he probably only gets called by the hand that beats him.
droctagon187 4 years ago 2
wow, its a movie
paulnapper 4 years ago
its funny reading the other comments, you all talk as if your poker pros, when really you dont know jack shit about how to play.
amitywill 4 years ago
That was the mistake that Teddy's bodyguard started to take the chips before he saw Mike's cards!HE could have had 99.And that would have been better than Teddy's AA
csilles23 4 years ago
rnocon is a fucking faggot piece of shit who sucks on greg raymers balls....that fucking cocksucking ugly faggot jew
LEECH44 4 years ago
u guys are funny lol
naolicious 4 years ago
silsbadabing . your analysiz are appatently pretty wannabees. Why would anyone with real talent would explain things on youtube. besides your analyze has a lot of holes. lol hope to see u at local casino moron ;=)
herrajoiku 4 years ago
He was waiting for matt to go all in, cause the guy behind matt signals something to KGB, prob that he has a good hand but worse. He would not play aces full that cool otherwise.
arpeggiox 4 years ago
man it'd be funny to show a pair of 9 after the way he showed those aces lol. oh oops 4 of a kind
belts 4 years ago
Once the second nine hits, there's simply no getting away from the hand. That being said, the hand was played awkwardly all around. Saying "it's a position raise, I call it", could you possibly give off a bigger tell that you're *not* just calling because you think he's stealing? Putting KGB on a flush draw when he calls a 2x the pot bet on the flop? Betting 3x the pot when you're trying to get aces full paid off?
Just awkward play.
thegreenleprechaun 4 years ago
your a poker nerd
rnocon 4 years ago
Oh, thank God for this expert analysis. How could those retards who did the second audio track on this movie, notably Phil Hellmuth, Chris Ferguson, Chris Moneymaker and Johnny Chan, have missed out on the weakness of this play and more wrongfully even have approved of it.
Such freaking noobs.
Everybody knows that in heads-up and short-handed situations it's just completely insane to play aggressive and therefore totally gives away a strong hand if you do.
silsbadabing 4 years ago
Vice versa not even the brightest of players might pickup on a slowplay and therefore bet strong into a tiny pot later on or call such a bet to pay you off big time.
After all this is a cash game in which getting bad reverse implied pot odds are no big deal in the long run.
silsbadabing 4 years ago
And then the overbet (if being called) allures you to keep raising after the flop and making it seem like you are trying to prevent your opponent from getting correct pot odds and therefore creating a huge pot you might still loose in case of a badbeat.
silsbadabing 4 years ago
Finally there's no way of KGB sitting on flush draw with him calling 2000$ into a pot already over 3000$ (3000 Mike + small blind from the Asian fellow) with only 35% chance to make the hand. Totally maniac move on his side. Doesn't he know this is a no limit game in which potential future bets and the stack of your opponent play no role whatsoever and you should be playing only for the current pot.
silsbadabing 4 years ago
Thanks again for the incredible insight thegreenleprechaun. I'm sure the whole poker community is anxious to see you kicking those so-called pros' asses, who apparently don't know jackshit about this game, on the WSOP this year.
silsbadabing 4 years ago
the analysis of this Rounders hand by most of the posters (especially silsbadabing) is horrible. The most important loophole that defeats all their arguments is the fact that poker has no standards of play. The best players mix up their gameplay and can adjust to any playing environment.
andrexh 4 years ago
silsbadabing: even in no-limit games, previous pots and plays do matter.
andrexh 4 years ago
silsbadabing: sometimes the brightest players come back over the top
andrexh 4 years ago
sometimes playing aggressive can entice your opponents to think you're weak when you're not; you can also find out how strong your opponent is by betting aggressive if he calls. this can work in short-handed and heads-up game, too. Michael's play was not weak.
andrexh 4 years ago
This film is a masterpiece!
johnholmes87 5 years ago
look everyone,heres the thing when you have an ace and there is and ace on the board.you dont expect the other person to have pocket rockets.especially whe 2 other poeple layed down their hand.and that means that the kgb had to been either big blind or small blind.kgb could have had suited J,Q which would have given him a middle straight draw along with a flush draw.either way they would have been beaten by a full house.
Leviticus118 5 years ago
i agree. If there's only half the aces in a deck left you're not going to expect the opposition to have both of them! It's only a movie at the end of the day. Besides, how many of us have had this kind of bad luck?!
caboosetheblue 5 years ago
I have, top full house beaten by 4 of a kind
snooganschuck55 4 years ago
didnt you hear mikey. he said against an average guy you would set a bear trap (hardly bet at all). but KGb is to smart for it so what he has to do is overbet the pot (looking like he is trying to buy it)
steve12111987 5 years ago
It's all a bit silly anyway as it's unlikely a player like Mikey would bet out 2x the pot on the flop with top2 and it's even less likely you'd bet 3x the pot with the near nuts on the river!
keliwah 5 years ago
It's not realistic that Mikey still thinks KGB has spades once he bet the river. Just because he says "I don't think you've got the spades", doesn't mean he actually thinks he does. On the river KGB bets 15k into a 5k pot! - there's no way Mike would think he'd do that with a flush on a paired board. My point was other than AA, 88 is the only hand you can put KGB on when he bets the river.
keliwah 5 years ago
theres needs to be another awesome poker movie like this
meagz101 5 years ago 2
of course he is thinking that KGB has the spades... he is just saying "I don't think you have the spades", because he wants to get a call of KBG with a flush and he beats it with his full house.... bad luck KGB has the Aces...
aaabbbaaaisbackagain 5 years ago
No, KGB says "it's a position raise". He's saying Mikey is stealing the blinds from the button. Notice Mikey is dealing - this means he has position (acting last after the flop). AA are the only cards that beat Mikey, and when KGB bets out so much on the river, it's nearly impossible to put him on it. It's not said, but when Mikey reraises all-in and says "I don't think you have the spades", he'd probably be thinking KGB had 88.
keliwah 5 years ago
"An out of position raise- I call it." Now that is what I call sick... I hear that from my oponent, I am not putting him on aces. But what made him put Teddy on a flush draw anyway?
kr4ckas 5 years ago
I'd love to see anyone not raise with nines full in that spot
zelmer420 5 years ago
well he played it to perfection but the other guy played it even better he should have just called in the end but he got to gready.
miguelignacio 5 years ago
not loud enough
pokeryfoosy 5 years ago