"druide106" and "youGAYlance29" did post exactly the same statements using the same words even. this guy got two (or more than two) accounts @ youtube so he can post retarded comments and rate those comments positive using his second (and probably his other 100) account(s) ? what a nerd haha ! however - I´m going to ban one of your accounts now so post your last retarded comment and say good bye to your "druide106" account. hope you had some fun.
I agree with you guys if you could HAVE one of these cars. Why not choose the CGT. But since most of us aren't given one. Idk if I could justify the roughly $300,000 more for turning heads. Depends how much your attention staved I suppose.
Fuck the ZR1... I would take the Carerra GT all day over that shit. Speed means absolutely nothing... Drive them both through a city and see which turns heads. The GT is beautiful and the Vette looks like every other fuckin Vette.
@iJustDontGiveAShit no there are noticeable differences, and the sounds is ridicolus, ive seen both carrera gt and zr1 and the zr1 is more stylish and aerodynamic, not to mention its american made,
gooooood bye 500.000€ Carrera GT - you just got assraped by a 100k muscle car weighing 200 more kilograms at a similar power output. please try again anytime.
oh btw - don´t even try to make a C6 Z06 look weak. the Z06´s LS7 engine is good for up to 730+ NATURALLY ASPIRATED NORMAL GAS HORSEPOWER (schwartz package with reduced emissions even) so fuck off. not to mention the Z06 weighs a 100kg less than the ZR1 lol. so go away with your porsche crap and get some real competition
@HEMIH3AD Yup, but FYI, the CGT is now 7 years old and discontinued long before the ZR1 was even released. Something is always coming out that's faster.
@druide106 and here comes "druide106" who spends 24/7 next to his computer posting comments with either NO arguments OR arguments based on nothing but air which goes to show how you define the term "education" ;-)
@druide106 never heared about time zones huh ? once again you´re going to show how you define the term "education". well done. I like how you´re acting like a desperate 14 years old child being 31 haha. also I wonder why you´re posting like 1000 comments a day. at least it seems like that since your comments are on ANY youtube video that contains a car. no friends ? no hobby ? no life ? 31 years old but yet you´re spending your entire day next to your computer haha - silly UNEDUCATED nerd.
@HEMIH3AD Hahahaha, every time you fall in that trap, is just the same level as "youlance29"
let me think, I write 3 comments a week, max!!! this is just a reaction to rubbish, which was written
"no friends ? no hobby ? no life ? 31 years old but ...."
is that your life? hmm, everybody can read your rubish comments in nearly all US-Car videos. looks like a guy who have no friends, no life and spent the whole time to his computer..
you are the silly UNEDUCATED nerd, and you did'nt notice!!!
@druide106 gaymerican underclass ? coming from the 31 years old peugeot driver haha! I like how you don´t even know the english basics. 31 years old yet too uneducated - "did´nt" ? hahaha. you post only one comment a week ? is that why your comments are the first ones visible on any video that contains an american car ? always with the same statements based on nothing but air ? you sir - are jealous. america got EVERYTHING your [apparently] uneducated country´s never going to see case closed
@druide106 AND ONCE AGAIN YOU´VE PROVEN HOW DUMB YOU ARE. america got the nasa, america got the fastest dragsters, america got the highest refined infrastructure of the entire world, america is the "world police" - what´s your country ? what has your country to offer ? intelligence is obviously sth your country doesn´t offer. "who say I´m british?" - first of all - it´s "who says I´m british?" not "who say I´m british?" you brainless tard - secondly I never said you´re british you hopeless tard
@HEMIH3AD hahahaha gaymerica is a big hole foll of gaytard like you XD and again, you show your underclass level, white trash right?
So funny, I must write english because you dumb tard understand only this language XD
dragsters??? hahahahaha.... highest refined infrastructure? this joke was good, nigga you are BLIND or STUPID? I bet you are both, go home brainless tard...
@druide106 also um das klar zu stellen - ich bin immer noch kein ami du kleiner hurensohn und verstehe durchaus andere sprachen. englisch ist eine sprache die JEDER mensch auf diesem planeten sprechen sollte da es allgemein bekannt die WELTSPRACHE ist du ungebildetet 31jähriger haufen scheisse. zudem muss ich betonen dass es mir wirklich freude macht zu sehen wie du dich ins zeug legst um deine eigenen kommentare gut zu bewerten - als würde das etwas an der tatsache ändern dass du dumm bist ;)
@HEMIH3AD Ahh, das ist also die deutsche Unterschicht? So was haben wir in der Schweiz zum Glück ja nicht!!!! Hurensohn? ahh ein Moslem!!!! Dafür dass du so eine große Fresse hast ist dein Englisch aber beschissen ;)
Du glaubst ja noch immer ich bin 31!!!! Ich bewerte hier garnichts, aber offenbar hast du genug Zeit.
Dein Deutsch ist allerdings eine Schande, vielleicht solltest du Türkisch schreiben, das bekommst du dann auch ohne Rechtschreibfehler hin? Los, mach dich weiter Lächerlich ;)
@druide106 meine englische wie auch deutsche grammatik ist absolut fehlerfrei. tippfehler kommen immer wieder vor und kennzeichnen in keinerlei hinsicht die entweder vorhandene intelligenz (meine wenigkeit) oder dummheit (du). nicht zu wissen wann man ein apostroph setzt (did´nt - LOL!) ist wiederum eine andere geschichte ;-). 31 ist das in deinem profil angegebene alter was entweder ein weiteres indiz für deinen nicht vorhandenen IQ oder ein weiterer hinweis deiner persönlichkeitsstörung ist.
@HEMIH3AD Hahahaha, hat man dir das auf der Hauptschule gesagt? Bei dir ist weder Intelligenz, noch Niveau vorhanden. Nun mal raus mit der Sprache, es muß dir nicht peinlich sein ein Migrant zu sein XD das würde deine beschämende Kenntnisse der deutschen Sprache erklären.
Wer sagt dass ich das nicht weiß??? Im Internet ist es mir schlichtweg egal...
Lass dich mal behandeln, ihr habt doch in Deutschland so gute Psychologen, oder hat deiner schon aufgegeben?
@druide106 oh and BY THE WAY - just to kick into your face for the last time - I´m NOT even american haha you little pathetic bastard haha. you assumed I´m american because your english sucks big time compared to mine haha. it´s not my native language either yet I´m far over your level eventho I´m NOT a 31 years old at youtube living cunt unlike you hahaha. this is my last comment so save your breath for someone who´s NOT FAR OVER YOUR LEVEL mr."education" you´re so dumb HAHAHAHAHA ! :'D
@HEMIH3AD yeah, show is your lowcost education #LOL you have no level, shitheads hav no level #LOL you little bastard have no culture, so sad that you mother must suck cocks to bay your bills XD
Now the ZR1 does a Nurburgring lap in 7:19.63 with a revised suspension. It's got two less cylinders than the Carrera GT, pulls more than 1G, still cheaper by more than 300,000 dollars, ZR1 RULES!
@elr456 yea but 1.5l bigger with a supercharger with more displacement... not sure on the supercharger displacement tho... the corvette is only 430bhp without the supercharger so without one it would get toasted
@elr456 its still a N/A engine vs a Forced Induction engine... how many cylinders or not does not matter... the Porsche name is what makes it so expensive... a zr1 is just a GM brand... + a 6l engine with a supercharger on it is going to be expensive... put a v8 supercharged engine in the GT and it would destroy the zr1... just by weight alone... and the n/a v10 is only 100hp or so shy of the S/C v8... person driving the gt was not very good at going fast
@Tj1056 The GT driver honked 3 times very fast. He got the head start. Aren't the horsepower levels close anyway? 612 vs 638. The ZR1 has something the over 300K Porsche doesn't. Torque.
@elr456 the porsche is in the 600hp range.... its something that the porsche doesn't have... a supercharger... its what gives a lot of torque... the GT has a faster 1/4 mile also... by only 1 second but it still is... the GT is lighter... they both top out at 205mph...
@averyr18 god it sad how much of a idiot you are... did I ever say the still continued to make it? no i didn't stupid... also this GT pulls faster 1/4 mile times then this POS GM... you also know what they had to stop production on the ZR1 also...
I like the CGT anyway. Talking about the price is useless for me. I won't be able to pay for a ZR1 or a CGT. Supercars are dreams and are full of passion. It is not a discussion about getting the best bargain. People who are able to pay for an Enzo or CGT buy such cars because they can and not because it is reasonable. Its not about being a few seconds faster with the ZR1. Don't get me wrong, I like the ZR1 very much but a CGT is very special even it's a few tense of a second slower. :)
Will u guys ever figure it out? ZR1 is a sports car, a good one indeed. CGT is a first grade supercar. It's not about the numbers and laptimes. If anyone of u drove those two cars he would chose Carrera unless he is a bit dumb. End of story
@gogocro1 lmfao are you serious? So let me get this straight, if peeps had a choice of the 2 they would choice the super car, eerr because its a super car? No fuckin way mate i would choose the ZR1 anyday and spend the change on the ZR1. People are dumb, you are paying big bucks for the fuckin name not how good the car is, Sure they are fine craftmen ship but not 325k worth cos thats the diff between these 2 cars in price and a bet the ZR1 would out last that Porche by 200k miles atleast.
@gogocro1 hmm... ZR1 is not the best car in the world, but far from a "joke". for the price, very few cars can outperform it. GTR is fast, this car is just a billion times more fun to drive
Americans get so proud and boastful when they finally win at something hahaha specially when they need such a light car with sooo much power. Look at it this way, that ZR1 is hopeless. Obviously owners aren't going to track it, and its useless in real day driving. I'm sure even ZR1 owners would chose the Carrera GT to drive every day. Thats the difference between fast American cars and the rest.
@IPGAuto Actually, your wrong.. the zr1 was designed as an everyday driver car that can whoop others on the road(including exotics and the porsche gt), also knowing from experience ferrari's and lambos arent reliable on a day to day basis, There worth hundreds of thousands and you cant even rely on it but you can get a zr1 with pure sick power and still can be driven to work everyday!
@wiseracing2 - I guess. I got my opinion from 3 owners at our Cars and Coffee meet who do not see it as a daily. But maybe you have a different opinion about your ZR1. I see it like, when are you ever going to race someone on the streets, when is someone ever going to track their ZR1.. Never. Only 1 of the owners I talks to tracks it a lot. Otherwise its too powerful for the streets. As for reliability, Z06s and ZR1s are not exempt from problems. Thus why lots of Z06 owners use Porsche trannies
@ryanathan2 You do realize it's not a traditional 'leaf spring', yes it is similar but this is way more reliable and I personally own a C5 Z06 and i've out handled MANY Porsches and Ferrari's. The suspension works well, don't hate something you don't understand. You simply cannot beat the performance value of a Corvette, it's the perfect sports car for that middle class guy who can't/doesn't want to spend 250 grand on a fucking CAR when he can have one JUST as fast for a quarter of the price.
@Jutzujin Furthermore, yes, the ZR-1 does have a lot of power which does make it fast in a straight line, but this Carrera would get it's ass handed to it in the corners by the ZR-1 as well. Ferrari helped DESIGN the Chassis and refine suspension/brake components for the ZR-1. Sure, the interiors are not that great but it's FUNCTIONAL and that's what matters to a lot of people. I personally think the C5's interior is better than the C6 but that's just my opinion.
@ryanathan2 And that has anything to do with straight line speed in discussion here? but you are right, that would be one of the many reasons I would never buy a Vette, any Vette. A BASE Boxster would give me more driving pleasure
@dpimpchris Educate yourself before you make dumb comments. The GT was a LIMITED production car for only two years with only 1k something numbers build and it IS almost 6 years old technology compared to a brand new ZR-1. Now go look up tests by the most recent released 911 Turbo S PDK and GT2 and see how the ZR-1 measured up
An exotic should never be compared to trash Chevys and if one must compare speed then it should be a more modern Porsche such as a 911 Turbo S PDK or GT2
If the corvette took the cheap interior and made it just as nice as porsche everyone would take it. Every car review complains about there cheap materials.. Love the zr1 but id take a z06 over it
@toddandjillian they wont.. they will also night drive the vettes hard as you've seen and test it in the weight. They usually put on the time board when a car was tested in the wet , which they did for other cars but didnt for any of the corvettes they tested. Typical...
Remember your words when you see the ZR1 losing to the Ferrari Scuderia. The Vette Driver knew that he would win the race easily before the race had even started. I would like to see the same races on m5board or by similiar posters.
The gap between (CGT/F599 GTB) and (ZR1/F599 GTB) is nearly the same.
BTW
I expected the ZR1 to win over the CGT because the Porsche is an old one of 2004,has "only" 612 HP and is not supercharged.
@Blackpantheru There are too many discussion about N.A. and forced induction manifolds ... everybody has its own opinions ... in my opinion, I like the "singing" of a high rev N.A. V10 ... but, I like the torque on a turbocharged V8 ... witch one is best? don't know ... maybe neither! This is just "opinions"
@Blackpantheru (...) "only" produces around 563hp, although it is "bigger" than the Carrera GT's engine.
Every single engine has it own way of producing hp, rather they are NA; supercharged, turbocharged ... another very important issue is "torque". All of such combinations depends on what the engine will be used for.
Purebred racing engines (like the ones in F1) have a lower torque but a massive hp, therefore they should be used always in high revs - this is also the case of the Carrera GT's
Why are you just rambling? You're just saying a bunch of stuff that everyone knows. Fact is even though you're not man enough to admit it, is that you thought that the LS9 was bigger than the Carrera GTs engine because of its larger displacement. Being clueless as to how each respective block was designed. This whole time you've been dancing around that. I wish you kids had the balls to man up and admit when your wrong.
@averyr18 In your eager to prove your point (despite its pointless meaning) you also failed to read when I wrote: "That it was "physically smaller" ? no I didn't had a clue! neither I ever was interested to know about its physical size ... " ... so YES, I admitted I didn't had a clue.
Needless to say, there goes a really long time since I would give 2 shits about someone's opinion over the internet.
@Blackpantheru Thanks for the clear explanation it clearly states about the LS9 physical dimensions (and, LS7, for that matter) ... but, like I said from the start, when I've mentioned about "much bigger engine" I was talking about displacement, and not the "layout" of the engine, and subsequent physical dimensions.
Of course, if we are going down this road (physical dimensions) we can also take the example of the MB M156 engine. a 6.3L (actually a 6208cc) V8, normally aspirated, and it (...)
Here you are lying again. There's not a "much bigger" difference between 5.7L and 6.2L. Not even a full liter difference between the two. When you said bigger you were mistakingly thinking size of the motor.
@averyr18 You seam like a little boy, who someone took his toy. You're trying to impose your point, just because I said "bigger" and you immediately though I was talking about "size" and not "displacement ... or are this a question of semantics?
And if for you half a liter it's not such a big difference, let me tell you that car engine's were made with that exactly same capacity, not to mention that there were a 500cc racing category (no, not only for moto GP!)
@xfastV8 LMAO you're clueless. I dont need to force anything. You've quoted already. Im not sure why a kid is on youtube arguing about engines who clearly doesn't know shit about engines LMAO
And what's funny is all the people who actually know something about vehicles, and racing respect the ZR-1 and do admit that it's far more ''bang-for the buck'' than the likes of their own cars. It's all the fanboys that drive beat up Ford Taurus's or Dodge Rams with giant lift kits that drive the wedge between the companies. Though the ZR-1 isn't a perfect car, or God as people like to toute the GTR, it's definately in a league all it's own and it's hard to touch
The thing about this, is the Corvettes been around for decades and all GM did was take the formula of a car that's already been established amongst the worlds greatest manufacturers and made it better. You'll be hard pressed to find an engineer or test driver from the likes of Porsche, Ferarri, or even Lamborghini that doesn't have respect for the ZR-1.
@ABUsofiaan im sorry your having a hard time accepting defeat since american muscle is the best i mean the guy in the vetter just walked away from him haha. lmao
Why is there so many clips about a ZR1 and a Carrera GT ? to prove what?
To prove that a 5 years old Porsche still retails for at least 2 times more than a new ZR1 ? How much does a 5 y.o. Corvette retails for? comparing to its price while new?
To prove that Corvette needs a much bigger engine and a supercharger to get only 33 more hp than a 5 y.o. Porsche? good joke LOL
The matter is the price? for $80k I can get a F355 add some turbos make it faster than the ZR1 and it still is a FERRARI !
@xfastV8 Problem one with your Ferrari. There's few of them around, they don't come with warranties, and once you leave the dealership lot, the car is your problem. ZR-1, warranty, on-star, cheap parts, big block engine, better fuel mileage, easy to get ahold of (in comparison), and you don't look like someone trying to prove something. Oh, lets not forget the less than acceptable reliability ratings on almost almost every Euro supercar.
@toyoracing89 You're absolutely right about one thing "I don't look like someone trying to prove something" ... I don't need and I don't want to.
For sure we aren't on the same page about cars, and again, I don't care. FYI, in Europe EVERY used car cames with a 2 years warranty, and its not that difficult to find a 2nd hand Ferrari, you just need to know where to look. And you mentioned about reliability? from the place where cars are like fast food? seriously? check this watch?v=g4CPBfpnye0
@xfastV8 The Carrera GTs engine weighs 472 lbs. The ZR1's engine weighs 415lbs without the supercharger. Since you don't know about engines I'll educate you. The LS9 is in a smaller package and weighs less because it is a push-rod engine. Smaller package and less weigt is a result of not having overhead cams. It's amazing how similar the sizes of those two engines are, despite the huge difference in displacement. OHV is simply does not take up as much space OHC. So yes the ZR1 engine IS SMALLER
@averyr18 Ah ok, so we are talking about how much weighs the engines ( ? ) … tell me, for what exactly is that important? What is the racing car category that is defined by the weight of the engine, and not by the displacement and/or power? … just name one!
And it seems you are leaving the supercharger out on purpose, because it weighs about 200lbs! … or you are going to tell me that the supercharger is not a fundamental piece on the LS9 ?
Slow down guy...this all started because you had no clue that the ZR1s engine is physically smaller and weighs less than the Carrera GTs engine. Thats why you said "fo course a 6.2L is a lot smaller than a 5.7L .... NOT!"
So be a man and admit that you didnt have a clue.
@averyr18 That it was "physically smaller" ? no I didn't had a clue! neither I ever was interested to know about its physical size ... again, does it matter ? for what ?
When someone discuss about the size of an engine, does it relate to the its "physical" size, or does it concern about displacement? ... or we are discussing now, about semantics ?
@xfastV8 If you did not know, you should have keep quiet. You assumed that the LS9 was larger based on it's displacement. Displacement is determined from the bore and stroke of an engine's cylinders. Overhead valve engines are able to pack more displacement in a smaller package than Overhead cam engines. The result in normal applications is an engine that makes more power, more torque but also is smaller in size and weighs less and has fewer moving parts. In other words, more efficient.
@averyr18 Almost sound like you are chasing some kind of prise. I didn't assumed it was physically bigger or smaller because I was never talking about its "physical size". From the start, I was talking about displacement! and yes, I do know what displacement is and how it is calculated, thanks!
When discussing an engine its "physical size" its important, why? ... and WHY you keep the weight and size of the supercharger out? ... is it not a fundamental part of the LS9 ?
@xfastV8 Even with the supercharger, the LS9 is still smaller than the CGT's engine. Even Chevys 7.0L Z06 engine is smaller and weighs less than the CGTs.
So why would you bring up displacement in the first place. Because all I said was look what a little pushrod could do..?
@averyr18 Amnesia? you directly said to me "The ZR1s engine is smaller than the Porshe's engine" and NOT "look what a little pushrod could do.." And it seams you were comparing its physical size, and not its displacement. Witch is odd for me, because, like I said before ... for what exactly is that important ??? your problem is "size" ?
So, even with supercharger the LS9 is still physically smaller than the Carrera GT ? we already mentioned that in such conditions the LS9 is heavier (...)
@averyr18 (...) I never saw with my own eyes both engines on a bench so I can compare their size, please quote your source where it clearly proofs your statement : "Even with the supercharger, the LS9 is still smaller than the CGT's engine" ... and I'm sorry but only your word is just not good enough!
@averyr18 … maybe GM should take it out, and let’s see how the ZR1 performs?. That, my friend, would be a real good joke!
The main point is, LS9 with its pushrods is nothing more than an outdated piece of engineering that can only perform decently because it is supercharged. And let me point out that supercharging (or turbocharging) it’s the easiest way to make an engine perform! Easy to see how many pocket rockets there are out there … some with only a 3.0L and 1000bhp!
@averyr18 The Carrera GT engine was 1st introduced in 2004, and it is a purebread normally aspirated racing engine. Please remind me, what was the best N.A. GM engine back in 2004 ? or even a supercharged ??
ZR1 might be a great car in its class, but it will NEVER came even close to a Porsche … even less to the Carrera GT!
@averyr18 its normal, I guess ! and how about the ariel atom, it broke almost every record out there ... does it makes it better than the ZR1 ? No, right ?! ... why? because we are talking about different categories for different market targets.
Exactly. You wanted to turn this into a Carrera GT vs ZR1 argument, not me. The two companies had two different goals and accomplished them in vastly different ways. Whos to which was better? The fact in the matter is that GM accomplished those goals in an efficient manor
Who the hell cares about a street cars lap times? These are street cars riding right where we want them on the road. So what a Porsche may be able to beat a 'Vette or Ford GT by a second or two on a track that we rarely even drive on. This is what happens in daily driving. Don't get me wrong the Murcielago I think is the most beautiful thing on 4 wheels, the 458 Italia, a close second but in a race in the normal world their ass gets whipped. The Vette is a monster.
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damn thats a nice road
MrNeffy 3 months ago
you could buy the zr-1 with all it's colors for 1 carrera GT, and yet the carrera GT can't stand the zr-1 :)
DonAlfee 5 months ago
I wish i had a road like this around here
Nitroheadfool 7 months ago
@Nitroheadfool yea i love our high ways ... i went to london and the high ways are so damn small ..
mejawmeyaw 7 months ago
the gt is not even flooring it u would know i hav a porshe and its not like driving a lincon
WUZIGULUHU 7 months ago
@WUZIGULUHU it is flooring it dude, the zr1, even the z06 thou, wins against the carrera gt in a rolling race.
cyaanara 7 months ago
@cyaanara any porshe isnt made for drag races its made for everyday roads or lemoze
WUZIGULUHU 7 months ago
2003 vs 2010-2011 LOOSERS!!! Carrera GT any day!
MultiPorsche2 7 months ago
Rolling starts isnt a race it a talentless show, get real A-holes
1ZeppleinFan 7 months ago
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"druide106" and "youGAYlance29" did post exactly the same statements using the same words even. this guy got two (or more than two) accounts @ youtube so he can post retarded comments and rate those comments positive using his second (and probably his other 100) account(s) ? what a nerd haha ! however - I´m going to ban one of your accounts now so post your last retarded comment and say good bye to your "druide106" account. hope you had some fun.
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HEMIH3AD 7 months ago
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@HEMIH3AD hahaha, Du Hauptschüler kannst ja einen PC bedienen!! Glückwunsch!!!
Ich schlage vor, du konsumierst jetzt etwas richtige Bildung, das bringt Niveau und vielleicht wird auch dir nochmal ein Mensch.
Muß ich für dich interssant sein, du muslimische Lachnummer *g*
druide106 7 months ago
@HEMIH3AD are your sure little nerd? #LOL go home retard XD
druide106 7 months ago
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@HEMIH3AD hahaha, Du Hauptschüler kannst ja einen PC bedienen!! Glückwunsch!!!
Wir saßen gestern im Café und haben uns über dich totgelacht ;)
Ich schlage vor, du konsumierst jetzt etwas richtige Bildung, das bringt Niveau und vielleicht wird aus dir nochmal ein Mensch.
Muß ich für dich interssant sein, du muslimische Lachnummer *g*
youGAYlance29 7 months ago
@Druide106 lass ihn mal, das ist ein Deutscher mit Migrationshintergrund, da gibt es Dinge wie die Hauptschule, die können nichts für ihre Armut!
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youGAYlance29 7 months ago
That carrera need a supercharger!!!
MrCocola12 7 months ago
pointless race, nobody know, its stock or modified? its so easy to modified a ZR1 and all owners say "it's bonestock" #LOL
druide106 8 months ago
The ZR1 pulling to the lead! Its a horsepower race!
Camaros5678 8 months ago
if the road had been twisty I suspect the results would have been different. Plus the build quality of Corvettes is horrible compared to Porsche.
MSearcy1 8 months ago
Porsche Carrera GT
5,7-l-V10 450 kW/612PS
1380 kg
590 Nm
Corvette ZR1
6,2-l-V8 476KW/647PS
1460 kg
604 Nm
SapphireHD5850Xtreme 8 months ago
I agree with you guys if you could HAVE one of these cars. Why not choose the CGT. But since most of us aren't given one. Idk if I could justify the roughly $300,000 more for turning heads. Depends how much your attention staved I suppose.
o8z06 8 months ago
it may be slower but i'd take the CGT any day of the week. the sound of that V10 is unreal and it looks better than almost anything out there
dmontayre 8 months ago
Fuck the ZR1... I would take the Carerra GT all day over that shit. Speed means absolutely nothing... Drive them both through a city and see which turns heads. The GT is beautiful and the Vette looks like every other fuckin Vette.
iJustDontGiveAShit 8 months ago
@iJustDontGiveAShit no there are noticeable differences, and the sounds is ridicolus, ive seen both carrera gt and zr1 and the zr1 is more stylish and aerodynamic, not to mention its american made,
dbl0ck13 8 months ago
zr1 better bang for your buck, GT better bang on getting a hot girl and banging her end of story both are great cars
bendadickarnold 8 months ago
Is Corvette better than CGT?? I know the American Cars are the best in roll-on but Carrera GT is more expesive than Vette??Why??
xzeus100 8 months ago
only 10 people are retarded?
SteveHandlebar 8 months ago
where is this road?
blafticks 8 months ago
ZO6 & ZR1 are two brothers from hell
mody6930 8 months ago
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gooooood bye 500.000€ Carrera GT - you just got assraped by a 100k muscle car weighing 200 more kilograms at a similar power output. please try again anytime.
oh btw - don´t even try to make a C6 Z06 look weak. the Z06´s LS7 engine is good for up to 730+ NATURALLY ASPIRATED NORMAL GAS HORSEPOWER (schwartz package with reduced emissions even) so fuck off. not to mention the Z06 weighs a 100kg less than the ZR1 lol. so go away with your porsche crap and get some real competition
HEMIH3AD 8 months ago
@HEMIH3AD Yup, but FYI, the CGT is now 7 years old and discontinued long before the ZR1 was even released. Something is always coming out that's faster.
/watch?v=5Qam_UvSKuM
svt11111 8 months ago
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@HEMIH3AD and here comes the US education #LOL
druide106 8 months ago 5
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@druide106 and here comes "druide106" who spends 24/7 next to his computer posting comments with either NO arguments OR arguments based on nothing but air which goes to show how you define the term "education" ;-)
try again.
HEMIH3AD 8 months ago
@HEMIH3AD online on this time? unemployment? ;)
your turn...
druide106 8 months ago 5
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@druide106 never heared about time zones huh ? once again you´re going to show how you define the term "education". well done. I like how you´re acting like a desperate 14 years old child being 31 haha. also I wonder why you´re posting like 1000 comments a day. at least it seems like that since your comments are on ANY youtube video that contains a car. no friends ? no hobby ? no life ? 31 years old but yet you´re spending your entire day next to your computer haha - silly UNEDUCATED nerd.
HEMIH3AD 7 months ago
@HEMIH3AD Hahahaha, every time you fall in that trap, is just the same level as "youlance29"
let me think, I write 3 comments a week, max!!! this is just a reaction to rubbish, which was written
"no friends ? no hobby ? no life ? 31 years old but ...."
is that your life? hmm, everybody can read your rubish comments in nearly all US-Car videos. looks like a guy who have no friends, no life and spent the whole time to his computer..
you are the silly UNEDUCATED nerd, and you did'nt notice!!!
druide106 7 months ago 3
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@druide106 "did´nt" ? yeah - goes to show how educated you are - case closed.
HEMIH3AD 7 months ago
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@HEMIH3AD no arguments? typical gaymerican underclass #LOL
druide106 7 months ago
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@druide106 gaymerican underclass ? coming from the 31 years old peugeot driver haha! I like how you don´t even know the english basics. 31 years old yet too uneducated - "did´nt" ? hahaha. you post only one comment a week ? is that why your comments are the first ones visible on any video that contains an american car ? always with the same statements based on nothing but air ? you sir - are jealous. america got EVERYTHING your [apparently] uneducated country´s never going to see case closed
HEMIH3AD 7 months ago
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@HEMIH3AD Yeah, you're the typical white trash #LOL, no arguments but a big mouth, your life must be so sad!!
america got what? #LOL got fat people, lowcost jobs, no quality, poorness, dept and its the country of murders.
Damn you are a big joke XD Who say I drive a Peugeot? Who say I'm british? Who say I'm 31? you make me my day hahahahahha XD
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@druide106 AND ONCE AGAIN YOU´VE PROVEN HOW DUMB YOU ARE. america got the nasa, america got the fastest dragsters, america got the highest refined infrastructure of the entire world, america is the "world police" - what´s your country ? what has your country to offer ? intelligence is obviously sth your country doesn´t offer. "who say I´m british?" - first of all - it´s "who says I´m british?" not "who say I´m british?" you brainless tard - secondly I never said you´re british you hopeless tard
HEMIH3AD 7 months ago
@HEMIH3AD hahahaha gaymerica is a big hole foll of gaytard like you XD and again, you show your underclass level, white trash right?
So funny, I must write english because you dumb tard understand only this language XD
dragsters??? hahahahaha.... highest refined infrastructure? this joke was good, nigga you are BLIND or STUPID? I bet you are both, go home brainless tard...
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@druide106 also um das klar zu stellen - ich bin immer noch kein ami du kleiner hurensohn und verstehe durchaus andere sprachen. englisch ist eine sprache die JEDER mensch auf diesem planeten sprechen sollte da es allgemein bekannt die WELTSPRACHE ist du ungebildetet 31jähriger haufen scheisse. zudem muss ich betonen dass es mir wirklich freude macht zu sehen wie du dich ins zeug legst um deine eigenen kommentare gut zu bewerten - als würde das etwas an der tatsache ändern dass du dumm bist ;)
HEMIH3AD 7 months ago
@HEMIH3AD Ahh, das ist also die deutsche Unterschicht? So was haben wir in der Schweiz zum Glück ja nicht!!!! Hurensohn? ahh ein Moslem!!!! Dafür dass du so eine große Fresse hast ist dein Englisch aber beschissen ;)
Du glaubst ja noch immer ich bin 31!!!! Ich bewerte hier garnichts, aber offenbar hast du genug Zeit.
Dein Deutsch ist allerdings eine Schande, vielleicht solltest du Türkisch schreiben, das bekommst du dann auch ohne Rechtschreibfehler hin? Los, mach dich weiter Lächerlich ;)
druide106 7 months ago
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@druide106 meine englische wie auch deutsche grammatik ist absolut fehlerfrei. tippfehler kommen immer wieder vor und kennzeichnen in keinerlei hinsicht die entweder vorhandene intelligenz (meine wenigkeit) oder dummheit (du). nicht zu wissen wann man ein apostroph setzt (did´nt - LOL!) ist wiederum eine andere geschichte ;-). 31 ist das in deinem profil angegebene alter was entweder ein weiteres indiz für deinen nicht vorhandenen IQ oder ein weiterer hinweis deiner persönlichkeitsstörung ist.
HEMIH3AD 7 months ago
@HEMIH3AD Hahahaha, hat man dir das auf der Hauptschule gesagt? Bei dir ist weder Intelligenz, noch Niveau vorhanden. Nun mal raus mit der Sprache, es muß dir nicht peinlich sein ein Migrant zu sein XD das würde deine beschämende Kenntnisse der deutschen Sprache erklären.
Wer sagt dass ich das nicht weiß??? Im Internet ist es mir schlichtweg egal...
Lass dich mal behandeln, ihr habt doch in Deutschland so gute Psychologen, oder hat deiner schon aufgegeben?
druide106 7 months ago
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@druide106 oh and BY THE WAY - just to kick into your face for the last time - I´m NOT even american haha you little pathetic bastard haha. you assumed I´m american because your english sucks big time compared to mine haha. it´s not my native language either yet I´m far over your level eventho I´m NOT a 31 years old at youtube living cunt unlike you hahaha. this is my last comment so save your breath for someone who´s NOT FAR OVER YOUR LEVEL mr."education" you´re so dumb HAHAHAHAHA ! :'D
HEMIH3AD 7 months ago
@HEMIH3AD yeah, show is your lowcost education #LOL you have no level, shitheads hav no level #LOL you little bastard have no culture, so sad that you mother must suck cocks to bay your bills XD
druide106 7 months ago
Now the ZR1 does a Nurburgring lap in 7:19.63 with a revised suspension. It's got two less cylinders than the Carrera GT, pulls more than 1G, still cheaper by more than 300,000 dollars, ZR1 RULES!
elr456 8 months ago
@elr456 yea but 1.5l bigger with a supercharger with more displacement... not sure on the supercharger displacement tho... the corvette is only 430bhp without the supercharger so without one it would get toasted
Tj1056 8 months ago
@Tj1056 This is negated by the Carerra GT's two extra cylinders and cost. 110K vs over 300K. ZR1 owns.
elr456 8 months ago
@elr456 its still a N/A engine vs a Forced Induction engine... how many cylinders or not does not matter... the Porsche name is what makes it so expensive... a zr1 is just a GM brand... + a 6l engine with a supercharger on it is going to be expensive... put a v8 supercharged engine in the GT and it would destroy the zr1... just by weight alone... and the n/a v10 is only 100hp or so shy of the S/C v8... person driving the gt was not very good at going fast
Tj1056 8 months ago
@Tj1056 The GT driver honked 3 times very fast. He got the head start. Aren't the horsepower levels close anyway? 612 vs 638. The ZR1 has something the over 300K Porsche doesn't. Torque.
elr456 8 months ago
@elr456 the porsche is in the 600hp range.... its something that the porsche doesn't have... a supercharger... its what gives a lot of torque... the GT has a faster 1/4 mile also... by only 1 second but it still is... the GT is lighter... they both top out at 205mph...
Tj1056 8 months ago
@Tj1056
Without your d*ck you wouldn't be a man. So whats your point?
averyr18 8 months ago
@averyr18 and the fact they have a n/a version called the c5 corvette... gets spanked by so many different vehicles
Tj1056 8 months ago
@Tj1056 Answer the question idiot. And GM doesn't make the C5 anymore, it's production stopped in 2004. Go learn about cars.
averyr18 8 months ago
@averyr18 god it sad how much of a idiot you are... did I ever say the still continued to make it? no i didn't stupid... also this GT pulls faster 1/4 mile times then this POS GM... you also know what they had to stop production on the ZR1 also...
Tj1056 8 months ago
Making that $5k lease payment must have stung a bit.
MrUltraworld 9 months ago
Damn where is this at?
DJTDames 9 months ago
I like the CGT anyway. Talking about the price is useless for me. I won't be able to pay for a ZR1 or a CGT. Supercars are dreams and are full of passion. It is not a discussion about getting the best bargain. People who are able to pay for an Enzo or CGT buy such cars because they can and not because it is reasonable. Its not about being a few seconds faster with the ZR1. Don't get me wrong, I like the ZR1 very much but a CGT is very special even it's a few tense of a second slower. :)
leroyrs 9 months ago
haha wave good bye to the porsche!
68camaro540 9 months ago
ZR1 = best doller for doller car! not an overrated expensive car! get a zr1 and it beat almost anything
PS3Gamecore 9 months ago
Only a Corvette do it!!! Thanks GM!!
carlospeedZ06 9 months ago
Will u guys ever figure it out? ZR1 is a sports car, a good one indeed. CGT is a first grade supercar. It's not about the numbers and laptimes. If anyone of u drove those two cars he would chose Carrera unless he is a bit dumb. End of story
gogocro1 9 months ago
@gogocro1 lmfao are you serious? So let me get this straight, if peeps had a choice of the 2 they would choice the super car, eerr because its a super car? No fuckin way mate i would choose the ZR1 anyday and spend the change on the ZR1. People are dumb, you are paying big bucks for the fuckin name not how good the car is, Sure they are fine craftmen ship but not 325k worth cos thats the diff between these 2 cars in price and a bet the ZR1 would out last that Porche by 200k miles atleast.
angron666 9 months ago
@gogocro1 i would think if it can beat a cgt it makes it a supercar
bergaflickal 9 months ago
@poncekid agree -_-
chaosmike52 9 months ago
p4p zr1 is the best bang for the buck
poncekid56 9 months ago
the besy part is the guy in the zr1 just keeps up for a little bit... waves good buy, and then crushes it
charliepioneer 9 months ago 15
american muscle baby lol that vette said boy let me stop fucking around bye bye lmao
taylor09705 10 months ago
american muscle baby
taylor09705 10 months ago
@karsown a joke compared to Carrera GT, its stupid to compare these cars, even tough zr1 may be faster. Gtr is a better competitor
gogocro1 10 months ago
@gogocro1
Last time I check ZR1 had a better Nuremberg time. The standard for all sport cars.
LargerBigPrice2 9 months ago
zr1 is a joke, anyone can make a car with 700hp but it will never be as good as carrera gt
gogocro1 10 months ago
@gogocro1 hmm... ZR1 is not the best car in the world, but far from a "joke". for the price, very few cars can outperform it. GTR is fast, this car is just a billion times more fun to drive
karsown 10 months ago
@gogocro1 bullshitt, explain to me why is that?
taylor09705 10 months ago
@gogocro1 ok it just walked away from it and its half the price and nicer
The32694 10 months ago
@gogocro1 Why is the carrera so better?
DwnNvr 9 months ago
hot damn! and yet it can't beat a 510hp Scud... something doesnt add up...
petrolhead229 10 months ago
@petrolhead229 I think was bad driver of zr1. no has condition!!
djyuyu2 10 months ago
@djyuyu2 ohhhhhhh ok I get it :P haha thanks for clearing things up xD
petrolhead229 10 months ago
@petrolhead229 oh it can, just rigged up
taylor09705 10 months ago
Americans get so proud and boastful when they finally win at something hahaha specially when they need such a light car with sooo much power. Look at it this way, that ZR1 is hopeless. Obviously owners aren't going to track it, and its useless in real day driving. I'm sure even ZR1 owners would chose the Carrera GT to drive every day. Thats the difference between fast American cars and the rest.
IPGAuto 10 months ago
@IPGAuto Actually, your wrong.. the zr1 was designed as an everyday driver car that can whoop others on the road(including exotics and the porsche gt), also knowing from experience ferrari's and lambos arent reliable on a day to day basis, There worth hundreds of thousands and you cant even rely on it but you can get a zr1 with pure sick power and still can be driven to work everyday!
wiseracing2 10 months ago
@wiseracing2 - I guess. I got my opinion from 3 owners at our Cars and Coffee meet who do not see it as a daily. But maybe you have a different opinion about your ZR1. I see it like, when are you ever going to race someone on the streets, when is someone ever going to track their ZR1.. Never. Only 1 of the owners I talks to tracks it a lot. Otherwise its too powerful for the streets. As for reliability, Z06s and ZR1s are not exempt from problems. Thus why lots of Z06 owners use Porsche trannies
IPGAuto 10 months ago
@ryanathan2 You do realize it's not a traditional 'leaf spring', yes it is similar but this is way more reliable and I personally own a C5 Z06 and i've out handled MANY Porsches and Ferrari's. The suspension works well, don't hate something you don't understand. You simply cannot beat the performance value of a Corvette, it's the perfect sports car for that middle class guy who can't/doesn't want to spend 250 grand on a fucking CAR when he can have one JUST as fast for a quarter of the price.
Jutzujin 10 months ago
@Jutzujin Furthermore, yes, the ZR-1 does have a lot of power which does make it fast in a straight line, but this Carrera would get it's ass handed to it in the corners by the ZR-1 as well. Ferrari helped DESIGN the Chassis and refine suspension/brake components for the ZR-1. Sure, the interiors are not that great but it's FUNCTIONAL and that's what matters to a lot of people. I personally think the C5's interior is better than the C6 but that's just my opinion.
Jutzujin 10 months ago
@Jutzujin or two or three cars for the price of one of those !!
moiv8 10 months ago
@ryanathan2 And that has anything to do with straight line speed in discussion here? but you are right, that would be one of the many reasons I would never buy a Vette, any Vette. A BASE Boxster would give me more driving pleasure
chuchum3 10 months ago
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chuchum3 10 months ago
@dpimpchris Educate yourself before you make dumb comments. The GT was a LIMITED production car for only two years with only 1k something numbers build and it IS almost 6 years old technology compared to a brand new ZR-1. Now go look up tests by the most recent released 911 Turbo S PDK and GT2 and see how the ZR-1 measured up
chuchum3 10 months ago
An exotic should never be compared to trash Chevys and if one must compare speed then it should be a more modern Porsche such as a 911 Turbo S PDK or GT2
chuchum3 10 months ago
If the corvette took the cheap interior and made it just as nice as porsche everyone would take it. Every car review complains about there cheap materials.. Love the zr1 but id take a z06 over it
robfrmny21 10 months ago
Good bye, Carrera GT!
BitstreamDreamer 10 months ago
where the hell do u get clear highways like this
KillerKyle94 11 months ago
Thanks for coming out son.
mra2z 11 months ago
Nice,,,The American Beef-cake walks away...awesome.
highvelocity123 11 months ago
Fucking priceless....ZR1 waving bye bye to Euro trash mobile.AMERICAN muscle!
niagra898 11 months ago
wtf? i did not expect that... lol i like both these cars but damn! *runs to chevy dealership*
whyeff21 11 months ago
bang
for
buck
jumper1294 11 months ago
Wow just pure power. This shows nothing but an absolute beatdown. I would like the guys from top gear analyze this one.
toddandjillian 1 year ago 23
@toddandjillian naah they won't do it coz the are too biased for the porche :) I saw one of their clips they made the z06 and c6 looks like rabish :)
mohammdBaQeR 1 year ago
@mohammdBaQeR he's right they joke with most of the cars but they loved the ZR1 ;d
spider446 11 months ago
@toddandjillian they wont.. they will also night drive the vettes hard as you've seen and test it in the weight. They usually put on the time board when a car was tested in the wet , which they did for other cars but didnt for any of the corvettes they tested. Typical...
redtesta 11 months ago
@toddandjillian
Remember your words when you see the ZR1 losing to the Ferrari Scuderia. The Vette Driver knew that he would win the race easily before the race had even started. I would like to see the same races on m5board or by similiar posters.
The gap between (CGT/F599 GTB) and (ZR1/F599 GTB) is nearly the same.
BTW
I expected the ZR1 to win over the CGT because the Porsche is an old one of 2004,has "only" 612 HP and is not supercharged.
leroyrs 9 months ago
BYE BYE PORCHE. SORRY, YOU'RE NOT A WINNER.
2girls1freak 1 year ago
@cetaphil69 Pure opinion, I think a zr1 sounds and looks better.
xfmd30 1 year ago
@cetaphil69 But its still not better.
Blueball0120 1 year ago
@Blueball0120 Not better how? It beats it around the Ring and in a straight line.
ChrisUlrich 11 months ago
@cetaphil69
Nope...ZR1 got off the gas
averyr18 1 year ago 3
@cetaphil69
corvette hit the brakes look again
ganache3696 1 year ago
@Blackpantheru There are too many discussion about N.A. and forced induction manifolds ... everybody has its own opinions ... in my opinion, I like the "singing" of a high rev N.A. V10 ... but, I like the torque on a turbocharged V8 ... witch one is best? don't know ... maybe neither! This is just "opinions"
xfastV8 1 year ago
@Blackpantheru (...) "only" produces around 563hp, although it is "bigger" than the Carrera GT's engine.
Every single engine has it own way of producing hp, rather they are NA; supercharged, turbocharged ... another very important issue is "torque". All of such combinations depends on what the engine will be used for.
Purebred racing engines (like the ones in F1) have a lower torque but a massive hp, therefore they should be used always in high revs - this is also the case of the Carrera GT's
xfastV8 1 year ago
@xfastV8
Why are you just rambling? You're just saying a bunch of stuff that everyone knows. Fact is even though you're not man enough to admit it, is that you thought that the LS9 was bigger than the Carrera GTs engine because of its larger displacement. Being clueless as to how each respective block was designed. This whole time you've been dancing around that. I wish you kids had the balls to man up and admit when your wrong.
averyr18 1 year ago
@averyr18 In your eager to prove your point (despite its pointless meaning) you also failed to read when I wrote: "That it was "physically smaller" ? no I didn't had a clue! neither I ever was interested to know about its physical size ... " ... so YES, I admitted I didn't had a clue.
Needless to say, there goes a really long time since I would give 2 shits about someone's opinion over the internet.
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xfastV8 1 year ago
@Blackpantheru Thanks for the clear explanation it clearly states about the LS9 physical dimensions (and, LS7, for that matter) ... but, like I said from the start, when I've mentioned about "much bigger engine" I was talking about displacement, and not the "layout" of the engine, and subsequent physical dimensions.
Of course, if we are going down this road (physical dimensions) we can also take the example of the MB M156 engine. a 6.3L (actually a 6208cc) V8, normally aspirated, and it (...)
xfastV8 1 year ago
@xfastV8
Here you are lying again. There's not a "much bigger" difference between 5.7L and 6.2L. Not even a full liter difference between the two. When you said bigger you were mistakingly thinking size of the motor.
Youre pathetic.
averyr18 1 year ago
@averyr18 You seam like a little boy, who someone took his toy. You're trying to impose your point, just because I said "bigger" and you immediately though I was talking about "size" and not "displacement ... or are this a question of semantics?
And if for you half a liter it's not such a big difference, let me tell you that car engine's were made with that exactly same capacity, not to mention that there were a 500cc racing category (no, not only for moto GP!)
Grow up!
xfastV8 1 year ago
@xfastV8 LMAO you're clueless. I dont need to force anything. You've quoted already. Im not sure why a kid is on youtube arguing about engines who clearly doesn't know shit about engines LMAO
averyr18 1 year ago
@Blackpantheru Dude, who are you ? his girlfriend ?
xfastV8 1 year ago
Wow go ZR1...look what a little pushrod could do
averyr18 1 year ago
if your british, kill yourself
XD
blazzing4321 1 year ago
And what's funny is all the people who actually know something about vehicles, and racing respect the ZR-1 and do admit that it's far more ''bang-for the buck'' than the likes of their own cars. It's all the fanboys that drive beat up Ford Taurus's or Dodge Rams with giant lift kits that drive the wedge between the companies. Though the ZR-1 isn't a perfect car, or God as people like to toute the GTR, it's definately in a league all it's own and it's hard to touch
toyoracing89 1 year ago
The thing about this, is the Corvettes been around for decades and all GM did was take the formula of a car that's already been established amongst the worlds greatest manufacturers and made it better. You'll be hard pressed to find an engineer or test driver from the likes of Porsche, Ferarri, or even Lamborghini that doesn't have respect for the ZR-1.
toyoracing89 1 year ago
People american love straight lines, that all the zr1 is good for.
put it on a european scale tour you will hate the ride of that zr1
namybot 1 year ago
@namybot NURBURGRING! ...oh yeah and the Corvette racing program.
69BlueL88 1 year ago
haha take that europe. AMERICAN MUSCLE!
The32694 1 year ago 2
@The32694
This guy f**ked the corvette on modifying, wanna bet? or else germany is way better than ur fake muscles
few more months and that zr1 quality will suck and stop running while the porsche will run 4 ages
also these lazy muscles are terrible on the track
ABUsofiaan 1 year ago
@ABUsofiaan haha ok well see dumb fuck american muscle is better u fucking nazi.
The32694 1 year ago
@ABUsofiaan im sorry your having a hard time accepting defeat since american muscle is the best i mean the guy in the vetter just walked away from him haha. lmao
The32694 10 months ago
I love how the guy in the zr1 waves when he pulls away, ZR-1's a good ass car
MajorLeagueRacing 1 year ago
America 2- Germany 0.
Schalk3 1 year ago
Supercharge and stroke out the porsche to 7 liters then see what happens
emagdnim33 1 year ago
@emagdnim33 the corvette is 6.2 L not 7
dante01010 1 year ago
@dante01010 zo6 is a 7 liter zr1 is a 6.2
The32694 1 year ago
Why is there so many clips about a ZR1 and a Carrera GT ? to prove what?
To prove that a 5 years old Porsche still retails for at least 2 times more than a new ZR1 ? How much does a 5 y.o. Corvette retails for? comparing to its price while new?
To prove that Corvette needs a much bigger engine and a supercharger to get only 33 more hp than a 5 y.o. Porsche? good joke LOL
The matter is the price? for $80k I can get a F355 add some turbos make it faster than the ZR1 and it still is a FERRARI !
xfastV8 1 year ago 2
@xfastV8 Problem one with your Ferrari. There's few of them around, they don't come with warranties, and once you leave the dealership lot, the car is your problem. ZR-1, warranty, on-star, cheap parts, big block engine, better fuel mileage, easy to get ahold of (in comparison), and you don't look like someone trying to prove something. Oh, lets not forget the less than acceptable reliability ratings on almost almost every Euro supercar.
toyoracing89 1 year ago
@toyoracing89 You're absolutely right about one thing "I don't look like someone trying to prove something" ... I don't need and I don't want to.
For sure we aren't on the same page about cars, and again, I don't care. FYI, in Europe EVERY used car cames with a 2 years warranty, and its not that difficult to find a 2nd hand Ferrari, you just need to know where to look. And you mentioned about reliability? from the place where cars are like fast food? seriously? check this watch?v=g4CPBfpnye0
xfastV8 1 year ago
@xfastV8
The ZR1s engine is smaller than the Porshe's engine
averyr18 1 year ago
@averyr18 Thank you for such bright comment, you must be really smart, I bet you are a true American, aren't you?
ZR1 engine = 6.2L
Carrera GT engine= 5.7L
of course a 6.2L is a lot smaller than a 5.7L .... NOT!
lol
xfastV8 1 year ago
@xfastV8 The Carrera GTs engine weighs 472 lbs. The ZR1's engine weighs 415lbs without the supercharger. Since you don't know about engines I'll educate you. The LS9 is in a smaller package and weighs less because it is a push-rod engine. Smaller package and less weigt is a result of not having overhead cams. It's amazing how similar the sizes of those two engines are, despite the huge difference in displacement. OHV is simply does not take up as much space OHC. So yes the ZR1 engine IS SMALLER
averyr18 1 year ago
@xfastV8
And if you think Liters are what determines the difference between the Carrera GT and ZR1's engines..you are a joke and should stop posting...lmao
averyr18 1 year ago
@averyr18 Ah ok, so we are talking about how much weighs the engines ( ? ) … tell me, for what exactly is that important? What is the racing car category that is defined by the weight of the engine, and not by the displacement and/or power? … just name one!
And it seems you are leaving the supercharger out on purpose, because it weighs about 200lbs! … or you are going to tell me that the supercharger is not a fundamental piece on the LS9 ?
xfastV8 1 year ago
@xfastV8
Slow down guy...this all started because you had no clue that the ZR1s engine is physically smaller and weighs less than the Carrera GTs engine. Thats why you said "fo course a 6.2L is a lot smaller than a 5.7L .... NOT!"
So be a man and admit that you didnt have a clue.
averyr18 1 year ago
@averyr18 That it was "physically smaller" ? no I didn't had a clue! neither I ever was interested to know about its physical size ... again, does it matter ? for what ?
When someone discuss about the size of an engine, does it relate to the its "physical" size, or does it concern about displacement? ... or we are discussing now, about semantics ?
xfastV8 1 year ago
@xfastV8 If you did not know, you should have keep quiet. You assumed that the LS9 was larger based on it's displacement. Displacement is determined from the bore and stroke of an engine's cylinders. Overhead valve engines are able to pack more displacement in a smaller package than Overhead cam engines. The result in normal applications is an engine that makes more power, more torque but also is smaller in size and weighs less and has fewer moving parts. In other words, more efficient.
averyr18 1 year ago
@averyr18 Almost sound like you are chasing some kind of prise. I didn't assumed it was physically bigger or smaller because I was never talking about its "physical size". From the start, I was talking about displacement! and yes, I do know what displacement is and how it is calculated, thanks!
When discussing an engine its "physical size" its important, why? ... and WHY you keep the weight and size of the supercharger out? ... is it not a fundamental part of the LS9 ?
xfastV8 1 year ago
@xfastV8 Even with the supercharger, the LS9 is still smaller than the CGT's engine. Even Chevys 7.0L Z06 engine is smaller and weighs less than the CGTs.
So why would you bring up displacement in the first place. Because all I said was look what a little pushrod could do..?
averyr18 1 year ago
@averyr18 Amnesia? you directly said to me "The ZR1s engine is smaller than the Porshe's engine" and NOT "look what a little pushrod could do.." And it seams you were comparing its physical size, and not its displacement. Witch is odd for me, because, like I said before ... for what exactly is that important ??? your problem is "size" ?
So, even with supercharger the LS9 is still physically smaller than the Carrera GT ? we already mentioned that in such conditions the LS9 is heavier (...)
xfastV8 1 year ago
@averyr18 (...) I never saw with my own eyes both engines on a bench so I can compare their size, please quote your source where it clearly proofs your statement : "Even with the supercharger, the LS9 is still smaller than the CGT's engine" ... and I'm sorry but only your word is just not good enough!
xfastV8 1 year ago
@averyr18 … maybe GM should take it out, and let’s see how the ZR1 performs?. That, my friend, would be a real good joke!
The main point is, LS9 with its pushrods is nothing more than an outdated piece of engineering that can only perform decently because it is supercharged. And let me point out that supercharging (or turbocharging) it’s the easiest way to make an engine perform! Easy to see how many pocket rockets there are out there … some with only a 3.0L and 1000bhp!
xfastV8 1 year ago
@xfastV8
Here's another piece of info for you...Pushrods and OHC engines have been around for about the same time.
And they are more efficient than OHC engines
averyr18 1 year ago
@averyr18 The Carrera GT engine was 1st introduced in 2004, and it is a purebread normally aspirated racing engine. Please remind me, what was the best N.A. GM engine back in 2004 ? or even a supercharged ??
ZR1 might be a great car in its class, but it will NEVER came even close to a Porsche … even less to the Carrera GT!
xfastV8 1 year ago
@xfastV8
The ZR1 has broken even record the Carrera GT has. The CGT is still an awesome car...but it like other cars before it will be surpassed...
averyr18 1 year ago
@averyr18 its normal, I guess ! and how about the ariel atom, it broke almost every record out there ... does it makes it better than the ZR1 ? No, right ?! ... why? because we are talking about different categories for different market targets.
xfastV8 1 year ago
@xfastV8
Exactly. You wanted to turn this into a Carrera GT vs ZR1 argument, not me. The two companies had two different goals and accomplished them in vastly different ways. Whos to which was better? The fact in the matter is that GM accomplished those goals in an efficient manor
averyr18 1 year ago
LMAO @ 0:12 whereas the vette driver is waving "bye bye"!!!
pbee73 1 year ago
thats what i call an OLD FASHIONED ASS WHIPPING !!!!!!!!!!
skillz1855 1 year ago
Who the hell cares about a street cars lap times? These are street cars riding right where we want them on the road. So what a Porsche may be able to beat a 'Vette or Ford GT by a second or two on a track that we rarely even drive on. This is what happens in daily driving. Don't get me wrong the Murcielago I think is the most beautiful thing on 4 wheels, the 458 Italia, a close second but in a race in the normal world their ass gets whipped. The Vette is a monster.
neonmike1000 1 year ago
thats how Americans do it baby!!!!!
piperboy350 1 year ago