Herschel Walker is without question the greatest college football player to ever grace the NCAA. At 49 years old, he could come back and still start at any level of football. He's better than Barry, Emmitt, OJ, McFadden, or anyone else to ever play.
@cdpridg Herschel won his MMA fight 2 weeks ago in Strikeforce. He's a 6th degree black belt in Tae Kwon Do and studied jiu jitsu for 4 years now and is in excellent shape for a 47 year old. Go Dawgs!
This guy was the greatest to play the college game. He only played 3 years!!!! It was a shame Alabama never got a chance to play him. The only other back to be close to him was Bo, but Bo never had his stats. Hershel was also just a step quicker and a little bigger. Hershel was the better football player and Bo was probably a better all around athelete.
Sanddollar, I was at that game. Vaught Hemmingway stadium went silent for a moment, and then the Ole Miss students stood and clapped as 34 ran off the field.
Herschel had one of the all-time great football quotes. When a female sports reporter was interviewing him in college and asked him how tiring it was to carry the ball 30 times per game, Herschel just said "The ball ain't heavy."
LOL!!!! Yeah, Bo's 3,000 total NFL yards were FAR better than Herschel's 13,000 NFL yards not including his 5,000 return yards. Let's not forget that he spent his first three pro years in the USFL being the leading rusher and receiver for the league. Herschel was a better overall running back, period.
@csc30909 How long was Bo in the pros? I know that Herschel was in the USFL til that league folded and then played many years with Dallas, and then went to Minnesota and then the Eagles I think.
Herschel is my all-time favorite player. He had tremendous speed and power, and he was impossible to tackle. His Freshman season he wasn't played very much, and was often taken out in the 4th quarter, not too mention being gang-tackled all the time.
jim brown dominated his era when he played there was no one who could tackle him. besides back then in the 60's when brown played every player was as tough as nails and the players werent as sissy like as they are now. jim brown would have done perfectly fine in the nfl now he wouldnt be as great as he was but he would still be great
well i kinda did i would almost credit him for at least 1 or 2 of those superbowls dallas pulled off his trade, wouldn't u? i will agree with u too bad the trumpet took a couple years off his nfl career.
O, i dont think was a bad football player. He definitely was good, but he wasnt nearly as dominant in the NFL as he was in college(then again nobody is). He had some GOOD years in the Pros but he was never GREAT.
You're right though, going to the USFL took some years away from him.
He was good, but as far as everyone talking about greatest NFL running backs no one has mentioned the best so far, and that would be the immortal Jim Brown, Jim Brown would have records even Emmitt wouldn't have touched if he hadn't left the game still in his prime to go make movies, as well y'all forgot Gale Sayers
If you're going to make that argument, then I would say that Barry Sanders was the best NFL back. He hadn't even started slowing down when he left the game. I always thought Brown was overrated. More than anything, he just happened to be a far bigger back than was prevalent at that time. He was the size of many of the defensive linemen but with better speed. Jim Brown in his prime would be an average running back in the NFL now, I believe.
I agree Barry was awesome my number 2 all-time, but number one has to be Brown, only running back that could go up against linebackers like Butkus and Nitschke and hold his own.
You're actually making my point for me. Brown was a 230-235 pound running back in the days of 185-190 pound running backs. Nitschke played at 230-235 and Butkus was 235-240, both considered big for the era. My point is that he was as big as the big linebackers. Do you realize defensive linemen have increased by 40 lbs. per man in just the last 25 years? Sanders averaged 5.0 yards per carry on a terrible team against bigger, faster defenses than Brown ever saw while Brown averaged 5.2.
Also, Brown played a full nine seasons as compared to Sanders' 10 seasons. My point is that it's not like either guy was still in his prime. Brown turned 30 just after his last season. Given that running backs last an average of just three years in the NFL, both players were on borrowed time.
So your saying that if Jim Brown grew up in today's era he wouldn't be any good, I disagree, if Jim Brown or Gale Sayers had grown up now, and had modern training and medicine there wouldn't be any comparison, they would still be the best, Barry was great no doubt, but I'll still take Brown and Sayers over Barry and Herschel.
I didn't say that at all. I said Brown would be an average back. Sayers was much more elusive but given how the speed and size of the players have increased so much, Brown wouldn't be bowling over guys like he did then and would get run down and hammered pretty quickly by guys like Merriman and Urlacher. I'm not saying Brown would stink, just that at his size and marginal speed, he would be an average (4.0-yard) back: not bad, not exceptional.
Number of linebackers with the combination of speed, size, strength, and hitting ability of Urlacher, Seau, Merriman, and Lewis (among others) Brown and Sayers saw: 0
Number of running backs of Brown's and Sayers' size, speed, and agility those linebackers have seen: LOTS
Just look at 6' 3" 245# Eddie George. Physically, he was a lot like Brown but even stronger and faster and finished his career as a 3.6 YPA back. Butkus, while fierce, was S-L-O-W. The speed of the game is far different.
all those linebackers you listed if Butkus plays in todays technology and medicine makes them look like chumps Butkus was an animal, just youtube some of his clips
Think that if you want but he was slooooooow. He wouldn't get the straight ahead gap fills and blitzes he got back then due to the evolution of the passing game and linebacker assignments. Plus, there are plenty of offensive linemen now who are faster than he was who wouldn't allow the free shots he often got. Medicine wouldn't have given him speed that he never had. Butkus was the best at his position in that era but the fullbacks and tight-ends now are his size or bigger and much faster.
your argument is akin to saying Barry Bonds is a better home run hitter than Babe Ruth again your arguments a fallacies because you can't compare players from different eras its just your opinion mine is that if you put the players of yester year in the training environments, with modern medicine, and training, healing assets they would still be superstars if not even greater than what they were in their day.
That's a flawed point for several reasons. First, Americans are getting bigger and that's a statistical fact. When I was in HS, I remember it was a big deal when a local school's offensive line were all 200+ pounds. The last HS game I went to, the smallest OL was 6'2" 260# with 10 players on the team over 6'3" and the largest being 6'5" 350#. The FB was 6'3" 245# and this is at a 2,000 pupil school, not a mega HS. Modern medicine and training only gets you so far. Genetics have played huge role.
I couldn't agree more. When I saw Urlacher almost run down Reggie Bush from behind in the playoffs in 2006, my jaw just about hit the floor. Brown and Sayers never saw any linebackers with that kind of speed and now the NFL has a number of them. Does anyone think Ray Lewis and Urlacher wouldn't have teed off on Brown? Sure, Brown would get his yards but he'd have to work to get 4 yards per carry.
I agree that it is very unlikely that J Brown would be getting over 5 yards a carry over his career in todays league. But he was a notoriously aggressive player who I really don't think would be physically indimidated by anyone on field. If you talk to pundits and experts Brown is universally excepted as one of the top 2 or 3 backs of all time so to imply he would be average is, I think, more than a bit disrespectful.
Respect has nothing to do with it. Brown, at his size and speed at his peak, would be an average back today. Yes, he ran hard but he did so when the average defensive lineman only outweighed him by 15 pounds (look it up.) Guys that size are now linebackers who are faster than he ever was. He wouldn't be running over the 280 pound defensive ends of today or away from the lighter ones like Strahan. Do you really think Brown would have gotten the better of an end like Kyle Vanden Bosch? No way.
All I am saying is that a panel of top NFL player and coaches were asked the best running back of all time, either on CNNSI or ESPN and they voted Jim Brown 1 B Sanders 2 and Payton 3. I would say to dismiss Brown as you are doing is basically saying these people don't know what they are talking about.
You mean 5'11" 250-260 pound Jerome Bettis? Again, you're making my point for me. The guy was bigger than Brown and still averaged 3.9 yards per carry. We've beaten this to death. There is no denying the fact that the players are bigger, stronger, faster, and more agile now. The performance stats prove that beyond any doubt. This is why the toss sweep isn't really used in the NFL. The question isn't whether the "greats" could play now but whether they would excel as they did.
You're right because Butkus wouldn't have caught him. I've seen hours of footage of Butkus and never saw him hit guys with the speed and intensity that guys like Urlacher, Ray Lewis, Junior Seau, and Shawne Merriman have on a regular basis. Butkus was mean but his lack of speed would have kept him from the Combine now. The game isn't about straight forward bull rushes anymore. Take a guy like Bobby Carpentar who was great in college and MUCH faster than Butkus but has struggled in the NFL.
I had forgotten about Walter. I think I'd have to pick him as the best too. He was elusive, powerful, a good receiver and blocker, very durable, and came to play every game. In his prime, I have no doubt he'd be successful today if her were on a decent team.
TomHarkins. I dunno, I guess I am wrong for feeling this way, but I feel kinda cheated. When I saw Walker in college, I thought, "This guy is gonna SHATTER every record in the books when he gets to the NFL!!" I just felt like that is the career he should of had, and WOULD have had if he wasn't traded from the Cowboys. I know it is not his fault, and he DID have a great career, but it is kind of like watching a movie where you wait for the big ending and it never comes
I think the biggest issue was that Herschel got run to death in the USFL. If I'm not mistaken, he led the league in both rushing and receiving. In 1985, he put up over 4,000 yards of offense in the USFL. Basically, after how much he ran the ball in college and the USFL, his body was definitely showing wear by the time he got to the NFL, especially his shoulder that was damaged in college.
Sanders, ehhhh. let's talk sheer physical greatness, then we're talkin' Walker and Jackson, end of list. Campbell came somewhat close to the list, but nope, not enough speed.
here's how it goes between Herschel and Barry Sanders...Herschel was more magical and won over the hearts of UGA fans with his incredible toughness and electrifying plays. Barry Sanders was the better pure runningback.
Barry was good dude.. but he's no Herschel. Herschel could out run him and run him over. I like Barry Sanders but Walker was twice the running back Barry was.
how was Barry SAnders not half the runningback Herschel was????
he holds virtually every record you can hold for a single season...and he only played 11 games. The bowl game, 12th of the season, wasn't even counted in the stats for the season though he had 220 yards and 5 touchdowns. Had he stayed his senior year/ not been stuck behind Thurman Thomas, his stats would destroy Herschels'. And we all know what Sanders did in the NFL.
Read my comments below. Had Barry Sanders been on the same team with Herschel Walker he would have been 2nd string - PERIOD. No head coach is starting BS over HW. Herschel had great hands, never fumbled, great pass blocking, superb speed, limitless stamina, could outjump nearly everyone on the team and he wasCOACHABLE. If BS and HW lined up today Herschel would smoke him in the 40 and the 100. Dont get me wrong.. I like Barry.. but again.. he's no Herschel.
I think was TomHarkins is saying is that Herschel was simply a more well-rounded player and that, unlike Barry, Herschel was a threat to take it the distance every time he touched the ball. Barry's speed didn't compare to Herschel's. Barry wasn't going to run over anyone to pick up three yards on 3rd & 2. He needed space for his slashing, dodging style. I remember John Lynch knocking Sanders out of his socks when Sanders had one gap to go through. Sanders was a great back though just different.
Herschel also didn't have the shiftiness of sanders. Sanders' style worked better in the NFL whereas Herschels' didn't work as well because guys are much stronger and he couldn't knock them around like he could in college. Sanders was deceptively fast and actually had more 70 and 75 yard touchdown carries in his Nfl career than Herschel 4-3 and 3-2.
As I said, they had different styles but you're also making an apples and oranges comparison. Sanders carried the ball 1,100 more times in his NFL career than Herschel. Also, Herschel was used a lot as a receiver and had 93 and 84 yard receptions, considerably longer than any by Sanders. I saw Barry get run down quite a bit but never saw Herschel get caught from behind. Also, keep in mind that Herschel had to go through team, coaching, and system changes that Barry didn't.
he got that many more carries than Herschel but he also averaged 5.0 yards per carry to herschels' 4.2, which is still good but a 5.0career average is ridiculous. Sanders wasn't the breakaway threat that Herschel was but was harder to drop behind the line and was better in traffic because he could make incredible cuts without slowing down at all. But if there was a big hole Herschel had more ability to explode through it and score
As I alluded to before, Herschel was only in an offense tailored to him a couple of years in the NFL. Sanders was in an offense completely centered around him in terms of blocking schemes, formations, etc. his entire career which makes a huge difference.
If Walker had stayed with the Dallas Cowboys, he DOUBTLESS goes to the Pro Hall of Fame. He was just really starting to hit his stride (He led the NFL in Rushing in '87)in Dallas.
In 12 NFL seasons, Walker gained 8,225 rushing yards, 4,859 receiving yards, and 5,084 kickoff-return yards. This gave him 18,168 total combined net yards, ranking him second among the NFL's all-time leaders in that category at the time of his retirement.Walker is the only player to have 10,000+ yards from scrimage and 5,000+ return yards He is the only player to gain 4,000 yards three different ways. He is one of six players to exceed 60 TDs rushing and 20 TDs receiving
Walker's decision to go into the USFL is one of the few things keeping him out of the NFL HOF. The other is him playing for many many losing teams. Kinda like our beloved Dale Murphy in baseball.
Your an idiot!!! first, look at their stats! Second, watch the damn video!! He wasn't ranked the 2nd best overall player in college football history for no reason.. Reggie Bush is soft and hasn't amounted to shit in the NFL
The man (and at 18 HE WAS A MAN) redefined the position and was an absolute freak. No one could stop him. He had the power to run up the middle and the speed to outrun any DB. The greatest college RB ever and the greatest college player. Immediate impact and success. Awesome!
Herschel Walker is without question the greatest college football player to ever grace the NCAA. At 49 years old, he could come back and still start at any level of football. He's better than Barry, Emmitt, OJ, McFadden, or anyone else to ever play.
dlj1892 1 month ago
helllo 240p we meet again
jaredrodgersthemagnu 2 months ago
Walker was great, but Barry was the best!!
losangelescardinals 5 months ago
Damn i thought Bo jackson was good
PennyWisee14 6 months ago
Its just plain ol classic football.
DylanEdmondsisawesom 1 year ago
Herschel was the best then and now. Herschel is fighting MMA while Bo is somewhere finishing off a case of beer with a fat gut!
cdpridg 2 years ago
@cdpridg Herschel won his MMA fight 2 weeks ago in Strikeforce. He's a 6th degree black belt in Tae Kwon Do and studied jiu jitsu for 4 years now and is in excellent shape for a 47 year old. Go Dawgs!
RIPmyers 1 year ago
This guy was the greatest to play the college game. He only played 3 years!!!! It was a shame Alabama never got a chance to play him. The only other back to be close to him was Bo, but Bo never had his stats. Hershel was also just a step quicker and a little bigger. Hershel was the better football player and Bo was probably a better all around athelete.
bamadawgsc 2 years ago
bamadawgsc-
Show some damn respect and spell his name properly. Not once, but twice you butchered his name.
SatansCreamyJizz 2 years ago
2:25 HOLY SHIT
sanddollarscholar 2 years ago
Sanddollar, I was at that game. Vaught Hemmingway stadium went silent for a moment, and then the Ole Miss students stood and clapped as 34 ran off the field.
steelblue58 2 years ago 2
I'm from Athens Ga and Hes a legend period THE BEST!!!!!
TheMetallicaArmy 2 years ago
Herschel had one of the all-time great football quotes. When a female sports reporter was interviewing him in college and asked him how tiring it was to carry the ball 30 times per game, Herschel just said "The ball ain't heavy."
jocwalk 2 years ago
man hershel was a beast...bo was nice but he wasn't coming close to hershel's athletism...
kappa27 2 years ago
Herschel!!!!!! Go Dawgs!!!!!
RIPmyers 2 years ago
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Bo Jackson was better... Way better pro career also...
cmyoung1969 2 years ago
well i'll say that bo was a better athlete, but i still think herschel was a much better running back.
coryisaugafan 2 years ago
LOL!!!! Yeah, Bo's 3,000 total NFL yards were FAR better than Herschel's 13,000 NFL yards not including his 5,000 return yards. Let's not forget that he spent his first three pro years in the USFL being the leading rusher and receiver for the league. Herschel was a better overall running back, period.
jocwalk 2 years ago
that's because Hershel played NFL longer. Bo got injured and had to quit. he could played 5 more years.
csc30909 2 years ago
@csc30909 How long was Bo in the pros? I know that Herschel was in the USFL til that league folded and then played many years with Dallas, and then went to Minnesota and then the Eagles I think.
RIPmyers 1 year ago
idiot
GIZMODAWG 2 years ago
Herschel is the greatest of all time, if he would have played his senior year NOBODY would touch his records.
elhombre1818 2 years ago 3
Herschel is my all-time favorite player. He had tremendous speed and power, and he was impossible to tackle. His Freshman season he wasn't played very much, and was often taken out in the 4th quarter, not too mention being gang-tackled all the time.
allflip99 3 years ago
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LOL BARRY SANDERS IS BETTER
xmastime20 3 years ago
you have lost your mind
BLUEGUMOBAMA 2 years ago
so I guess you think detroit has the best team?
MCRDRUMSTIX7 2 years ago
Herschel is the best ever period
navyseal1000 3 years ago 4
At 1:10 he's so freakin fast.
GREATEST PLAYER EVER!
GO DAWGS!
djackson1892 3 years ago 7
He outran Georgia's defensive backs last year in spring training. 2007
dirtbagdarrell2008 3 years ago
The way Asher Allen and Prince Miller were covering people in '08, im not surprised he beat em.
JH16 2 years ago
"my gold almighty" he said...damn i wish he had been a better Viking
KevinTheReaper 3 years ago
"My God A Freshman" Larry Munson is a beast I miss him announcing
Herschel Walker was amazing that first run was awesome
Go DAWGS!!!
47disturbed17 3 years ago
the man is whipping down the field
Nocholas4sale 3 years ago
jim brown dominated his era when he played there was no one who could tackle him. besides back then in the 60's when brown played every player was as tough as nails and the players werent as sissy like as they are now. jim brown would have done perfectly fine in the nfl now he wouldnt be as great as he was but he would still be great
mrt2ufool 3 years ago
Herschel walker 1# no1 better
KingCobrazz 3 years ago 12
thanks herschel best the ever. period.
StevenGA1011 3 years ago 14
Herschel was a beast. Too bad it aint happen in the NFL:(
JH16 3 years ago
well i kinda did i would almost credit him for at least 1 or 2 of those superbowls dallas pulled off his trade, wouldn't u? i will agree with u too bad the trumpet took a couple years off his nfl career.
StevenGA1011 3 years ago
O, i dont think was a bad football player. He definitely was good, but he wasnt nearly as dominant in the NFL as he was in college(then again nobody is). He had some GOOD years in the Pros but he was never GREAT.
You're right though, going to the USFL took some years away from him.
JH16 3 years ago
Yep, but hey, he still had about 8000+ all purpose yards in the NFL.
pigscoasters 2 years ago
He was good, but as far as everyone talking about greatest NFL running backs no one has mentioned the best so far, and that would be the immortal Jim Brown, Jim Brown would have records even Emmitt wouldn't have touched if he hadn't left the game still in his prime to go make movies, as well y'all forgot Gale Sayers
devinesp 3 years ago
If you're going to make that argument, then I would say that Barry Sanders was the best NFL back. He hadn't even started slowing down when he left the game. I always thought Brown was overrated. More than anything, he just happened to be a far bigger back than was prevalent at that time. He was the size of many of the defensive linemen but with better speed. Jim Brown in his prime would be an average running back in the NFL now, I believe.
jocwalk 3 years ago
I agree Barry was awesome my number 2 all-time, but number one has to be Brown, only running back that could go up against linebackers like Butkus and Nitschke and hold his own.
devinesp 3 years ago
You're actually making my point for me. Brown was a 230-235 pound running back in the days of 185-190 pound running backs. Nitschke played at 230-235 and Butkus was 235-240, both considered big for the era. My point is that he was as big as the big linebackers. Do you realize defensive linemen have increased by 40 lbs. per man in just the last 25 years? Sanders averaged 5.0 yards per carry on a terrible team against bigger, faster defenses than Brown ever saw while Brown averaged 5.2.
jocwalk 3 years ago
Also, Brown played a full nine seasons as compared to Sanders' 10 seasons. My point is that it's not like either guy was still in his prime. Brown turned 30 just after his last season. Given that running backs last an average of just three years in the NFL, both players were on borrowed time.
jocwalk 3 years ago
So your saying that if Jim Brown grew up in today's era he wouldn't be any good, I disagree, if Jim Brown or Gale Sayers had grown up now, and had modern training and medicine there wouldn't be any comparison, they would still be the best, Barry was great no doubt, but I'll still take Brown and Sayers over Barry and Herschel.
devinesp 3 years ago
I didn't say that at all. I said Brown would be an average back. Sayers was much more elusive but given how the speed and size of the players have increased so much, Brown wouldn't be bowling over guys like he did then and would get run down and hammered pretty quickly by guys like Merriman and Urlacher. I'm not saying Brown would stink, just that at his size and marginal speed, he would be an average (4.0-yard) back: not bad, not exceptional.
jocwalk 3 years ago
I live in Chicago am a huge BEARS fan, but Urlacher couldn't carry Jim Brown's or Gale Sayers jockstrap.
devinesp 3 years ago
Number of linebackers with the combination of speed, size, strength, and hitting ability of Urlacher, Seau, Merriman, and Lewis (among others) Brown and Sayers saw: 0
Number of running backs of Brown's and Sayers' size, speed, and agility those linebackers have seen: LOTS
Just look at 6' 3" 245# Eddie George. Physically, he was a lot like Brown but even stronger and faster and finished his career as a 3.6 YPA back. Butkus, while fierce, was S-L-O-W. The speed of the game is far different.
jocwalk 3 years ago
all those linebackers you listed if Butkus plays in todays technology and medicine makes them look like chumps Butkus was an animal, just youtube some of his clips
devinesp 3 years ago
Think that if you want but he was slooooooow. He wouldn't get the straight ahead gap fills and blitzes he got back then due to the evolution of the passing game and linebacker assignments. Plus, there are plenty of offensive linemen now who are faster than he was who wouldn't allow the free shots he often got. Medicine wouldn't have given him speed that he never had. Butkus was the best at his position in that era but the fullbacks and tight-ends now are his size or bigger and much faster.
jocwalk 3 years ago
your argument is akin to saying Barry Bonds is a better home run hitter than Babe Ruth again your arguments a fallacies because you can't compare players from different eras its just your opinion mine is that if you put the players of yester year in the training environments, with modern medicine, and training, healing assets they would still be superstars if not even greater than what they were in their day.
devinesp 3 years ago
That's a flawed point for several reasons. First, Americans are getting bigger and that's a statistical fact. When I was in HS, I remember it was a big deal when a local school's offensive line were all 200+ pounds. The last HS game I went to, the smallest OL was 6'2" 260# with 10 players on the team over 6'3" and the largest being 6'5" 350#. The FB was 6'3" 245# and this is at a 2,000 pupil school, not a mega HS. Modern medicine and training only gets you so far. Genetics have played huge role.
jocwalk 3 years ago
Urlacher would rock the shit out of Jim Brown or Gale Sayers
gtboy453 3 years ago
I couldn't agree more. When I saw Urlacher almost run down Reggie Bush from behind in the playoffs in 2006, my jaw just about hit the floor. Brown and Sayers never saw any linebackers with that kind of speed and now the NFL has a number of them. Does anyone think Ray Lewis and Urlacher wouldn't have teed off on Brown? Sure, Brown would get his yards but he'd have to work to get 4 yards per carry.
jocwalk 3 years ago
I agree that it is very unlikely that J Brown would be getting over 5 yards a carry over his career in todays league. But he was a notoriously aggressive player who I really don't think would be physically indimidated by anyone on field. If you talk to pundits and experts Brown is universally excepted as one of the top 2 or 3 backs of all time so to imply he would be average is, I think, more than a bit disrespectful.
pharry4life 3 years ago
Respect has nothing to do with it. Brown, at his size and speed at his peak, would be an average back today. Yes, he ran hard but he did so when the average defensive lineman only outweighed him by 15 pounds (look it up.) Guys that size are now linebackers who are faster than he ever was. He wouldn't be running over the 280 pound defensive ends of today or away from the lighter ones like Strahan. Do you really think Brown would have gotten the better of an end like Kyle Vanden Bosch? No way.
jocwalk 3 years ago
All I am saying is that a panel of top NFL player and coaches were asked the best running back of all time, either on CNNSI or ESPN and they voted Jim Brown 1 B Sanders 2 and Payton 3. I would say to dismiss Brown as you are doing is basically saying these people don't know what they are talking about.
pharry4life 3 years ago
well if he couldn't handle an aging Jerome Bettis I doubt his bad back or neck could handle Brown or Sayers.
devinesp 3 years ago
You mean 5'11" 250-260 pound Jerome Bettis? Again, you're making my point for me. The guy was bigger than Brown and still averaged 3.9 yards per carry. We've beaten this to death. There is no denying the fact that the players are bigger, stronger, faster, and more agile now. The performance stats prove that beyond any doubt. This is why the toss sweep isn't really used in the NFL. The question isn't whether the "greats" could play now but whether they would excel as they did.
jocwalk 3 years ago
Bettis wa at the end of his career and Urlacher was in his prime and Urlacher got served, Butkus would not have gotten served by Bettis
devinesp 3 years ago
You're right because Butkus wouldn't have caught him. I've seen hours of footage of Butkus and never saw him hit guys with the speed and intensity that guys like Urlacher, Ray Lewis, Junior Seau, and Shawne Merriman have on a regular basis. Butkus was mean but his lack of speed would have kept him from the Combine now. The game isn't about straight forward bull rushes anymore. Take a guy like Bobby Carpentar who was great in college and MUCH faster than Butkus but has struggled in the NFL.
jocwalk 3 years ago
Jim Brown was a beast...he would kill urlacher...put him on todays training regimes that guy would be 260lb ripped...
pharry4life 3 years ago
he also runs like an 8.2 40-yard dash
gtboy453 3 years ago
Looking at Brown's spee din most highlight reels, I would say closer to a 4.8-4.7
If he were trained like players are, today, and truly got a chance to reach his physical peak, he would STILL be a beast.
ChargersLVII 3 years ago
Walter Payton. The Best Ever.
72seeker72 3 years ago
I had forgotten about Walter. I think I'd have to pick him as the best too. He was elusive, powerful, a good receiver and blocker, very durable, and came to play every game. In his prime, I have no doubt he'd be successful today if her were on a decent team.
jocwalk 3 years ago
TomHarkins. I dunno, I guess I am wrong for feeling this way, but I feel kinda cheated. When I saw Walker in college, I thought, "This guy is gonna SHATTER every record in the books when he gets to the NFL!!" I just felt like that is the career he should of had, and WOULD have had if he wasn't traded from the Cowboys. I know it is not his fault, and he DID have a great career, but it is kind of like watching a movie where you wait for the big ending and it never comes
UGANathanExplosion 3 years ago
I think the biggest issue was that Herschel got run to death in the USFL. If I'm not mistaken, he led the league in both rushing and receiving. In 1985, he put up over 4,000 yards of offense in the USFL. Basically, after how much he ran the ball in college and the USFL, his body was definitely showing wear by the time he got to the NFL, especially his shoulder that was damaged in college.
jocwalk 3 years ago
hes a beast
moreno4heisman2008 3 years ago
Sanders, ehhhh. let's talk sheer physical greatness, then we're talkin' Walker and Jackson, end of list. Campbell came somewhat close to the list, but nope, not enough speed.
almightywitey 3 years ago
here's how it goes between Herschel and Barry Sanders...Herschel was more magical and won over the hearts of UGA fans with his incredible toughness and electrifying plays. Barry Sanders was the better pure runningback.
gtboy453 3 years ago
Barry was good dude.. but he's no Herschel. Herschel could out run him and run him over. I like Barry Sanders but Walker was twice the running back Barry was.
TomHarkins 3 years ago
how was Barry SAnders not half the runningback Herschel was????
he holds virtually every record you can hold for a single season...and he only played 11 games. The bowl game, 12th of the season, wasn't even counted in the stats for the season though he had 220 yards and 5 touchdowns. Had he stayed his senior year/ not been stuck behind Thurman Thomas, his stats would destroy Herschels'. And we all know what Sanders did in the NFL.
gtboy453 3 years ago
Read my comments below. Had Barry Sanders been on the same team with Herschel Walker he would have been 2nd string - PERIOD. No head coach is starting BS over HW. Herschel had great hands, never fumbled, great pass blocking, superb speed, limitless stamina, could outjump nearly everyone on the team and he wasCOACHABLE. If BS and HW lined up today Herschel would smoke him in the 40 and the 100. Dont get me wrong.. I like Barry.. but again.. he's no Herschel.
TomHarkins 3 years ago
who cares if he could smoke him in the 40 or the 100...Troy Williamson could smoke TO in the 40 but that doesn't make him better
gtboy453 3 years ago
I think was TomHarkins is saying is that Herschel was simply a more well-rounded player and that, unlike Barry, Herschel was a threat to take it the distance every time he touched the ball. Barry's speed didn't compare to Herschel's. Barry wasn't going to run over anyone to pick up three yards on 3rd & 2. He needed space for his slashing, dodging style. I remember John Lynch knocking Sanders out of his socks when Sanders had one gap to go through. Sanders was a great back though just different.
jocwalk 3 years ago
Herschel also didn't have the shiftiness of sanders. Sanders' style worked better in the NFL whereas Herschels' didn't work as well because guys are much stronger and he couldn't knock them around like he could in college. Sanders was deceptively fast and actually had more 70 and 75 yard touchdown carries in his Nfl career than Herschel 4-3 and 3-2.
gtboy453 3 years ago
As I said, they had different styles but you're also making an apples and oranges comparison. Sanders carried the ball 1,100 more times in his NFL career than Herschel. Also, Herschel was used a lot as a receiver and had 93 and 84 yard receptions, considerably longer than any by Sanders. I saw Barry get run down quite a bit but never saw Herschel get caught from behind. Also, keep in mind that Herschel had to go through team, coaching, and system changes that Barry didn't.
jocwalk 3 years ago
he got that many more carries than Herschel but he also averaged 5.0 yards per carry to herschels' 4.2, which is still good but a 5.0career average is ridiculous. Sanders wasn't the breakaway threat that Herschel was but was harder to drop behind the line and was better in traffic because he could make incredible cuts without slowing down at all. But if there was a big hole Herschel had more ability to explode through it and score
gtboy453 3 years ago
As I alluded to before, Herschel was only in an offense tailored to him a couple of years in the NFL. Sanders was in an offense completely centered around him in terms of blocking schemes, formations, etc. his entire career which makes a huge difference.
jocwalk 3 years ago
If Walker had stayed with the Dallas Cowboys, he DOUBTLESS goes to the Pro Hall of Fame. He was just really starting to hit his stride (He led the NFL in Rushing in '87)in Dallas.
UGANathanExplosion 3 years ago
In 12 NFL seasons, Walker gained 8,225 rushing yards, 4,859 receiving yards, and 5,084 kickoff-return yards. This gave him 18,168 total combined net yards, ranking him second among the NFL's all-time leaders in that category at the time of his retirement.Walker is the only player to have 10,000+ yards from scrimage and 5,000+ return yards He is the only player to gain 4,000 yards three different ways. He is one of six players to exceed 60 TDs rushing and 20 TDs receiving
TomHarkins 3 years ago
Walker's decision to go into the USFL is one of the few things keeping him out of the NFL HOF. The other is him playing for many many losing teams. Kinda like our beloved Dale Murphy in baseball.
govols1986 3 years ago
he was actually faster than bo jackson in their races
baldrascal 4 years ago 3
Your an idiot!!! first, look at their stats! Second, watch the damn video!! He wasn't ranked the 2nd best overall player in college football history for no reason.. Reggie Bush is soft and hasn't amounted to shit in the NFL
jakeThomp 4 years ago
reggie bush is kool but i ment that they both r good in 1 way and 1 way they suck....
FORDGT660 4 years ago
Herschel's 1980 TD against Florida on the second play of the game is the best run ever!
kimbaptise 4 years ago 3
greatest college running back definitely
matt123698745 4 years ago 3
BY FAR, best college player ever.... he's like 2 Adrian Petersons
bohica31812 4 years ago 3
he is 4 adrian petersons.
FORDGT660 4 years ago 3
Greatest Ever...No question...No comparison..
scottwilliams420 4 years ago 5
miss this guy... awesome.
dirtyfighter34 4 years ago 5
the guy was a pure beast. ridiculous.
mdr1013 4 years ago 3
The man (and at 18 HE WAS A MAN) redefined the position and was an absolute freak. No one could stop him. He had the power to run up the middle and the speed to outrun any DB. The greatest college RB ever and the greatest college player. Immediate impact and success. Awesome!
ugadawgs1990 4 years ago 2
holy shit, look at the run at 2:28. incredible
gitrdone72404 4 years ago 3
i saw it! fucking incredible
biggametizo 4 years ago 3
Herschel Walker is the man!!!!
mspell350 4 years ago 2