your message about Kevin Klein appears infromative and correct when comparing to scripture but I don't know anything about him so I will do research on him befrore I approve of your video completely. However, I do love the message about God's word you are spreading with this video and I hope you keep up the good work. May God bless you and keep you.
Can you tell me ANY part of Christianity that has not evolved and been manipulated through the years. All religions are contrived snow balls of warped human imaginations... propogated by people who love to follow and not think things out. Religion IS the problem. Not the solution. Seek truth. Simple, provable, scientific truth. So much drops away under those guidelines. Otherwise... hey!... beLIEve anything you want. This guy is no better than Ken. Both crave attention.
Can you tell me ANY part of Christianity that has not evolved and been manipulated through the years. All religions are contrived snow balls of warped human imaginations... propogated by people who love to follow and not think things out. Religion IS the problem. Not the solution. Seek truth. Simple, provable, scientific truth. So much drops away under those guidelines. Otherwise... hey!... beLIEve anything you want.
To know who Adam is you need to know what Jesus says.
Revelation 22:16 "I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star."
In Luke 3:31 we find David, the root of David is found in Luke 3:38, Adam and the offspring of David is found in Luke 3:23, Jesus.
It is clear to me that the Spirit that was in Jesus is the same Spirit that was in Adam. Adam took on Eves sin just like Jesus did for us.
Genesis 5:2 "Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created."
As to ADAM, it is clear that ADAM was the name for both the male and female when they were first created. Later the male ADAM named His wife Eve. (Genesis 3:20 KJV)
1Timothy 2:14 "And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression."
Ken knows who the male ADAM is and thats why he knows we are not dieing for a sin ADAM never committed.
John 10:34 "Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?"
Psalms 82:6 "I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the Most High."
I do not believe everything Ken teaches but read Psalms 82 for yourself, it starts with this, Psalms 82:1 "A Psalm of Asaph. God standeth in the congregation of the mighty; he judgeth among the gods." Seems clear to me, we are gods.
LogosApologia is a prominant example of the devilworshippers, also called called christians. In the future people like him will be used as examples of how the worshippers of the demon Jehovah used to behave.
Vindicated! FAIR USE wins the day. I was informed by You Tube today that Ken Klein Productions Digital Millennium Copyright Act complaint has been denied and this video is LIVE.
@NRH117 It was an email from KenKleinProductions. That was the defense from Ken's staff member self titled "manifester" for their denial of original sin. The email on my website is an exact cut and paste of what I recieved.
wow, Gee, I wish I could blame all my shortcomings on me being a fallen angel! But this is just not true. This is typical of the "famine for the truth" in the last days. Many false teachers will come. If He really thought he was teaching truth and doing it for the Lord, he would not threaten to sue you. I understand that none of us translate the Bible perfectly, but he is definitely over the top!
Klein definitely has some big issues that I pray the LORD deal with swiftly. I say this:
"A man that is an heretick after the first and second admonition reject; Knowing that he that is such is subverted, and sinneth, being condemned of himself" ~Titus 3:10-11
IF this Klein fella has not received the Truth; then he must be utterly REJECTED; 'handed over to Satan'. *The most pressing matter here is that he is 'teaching' this junk to others; sadly, o/are receiving it. LORD REBUKE HIM!
Thanks brother for responding to error with the truth. I had not heard of Mr. Klein but he is in desperate need of basic Christian instruction. 5 stars.
True- Romans 5:32 doesn't exist Klein clearly meant Rom 5:11 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
His err about the verse# is nothing compared to his err in understanding the verse, it does say by one man (Adam) sin (and death by sin) entered the world.
Oprah also thinks God isn't fair or right, because he's 'jealous God' and this just doesn't sit with her- therefor Oprahs solution, Eckhart Tolle.
I believe the fall was about DNA.lucifur seduced eve, and invited adam too. eve had twins. cain was from lucifur,able in adams image. if you notice genesis 5:3 cain is left out of the geneology,(yet still alive but not counted) and God says that seth, was in adams own likeness, in his own image. 2 descriptions to assure the reader.Whose image would he be in? Then later, Gen 6:4 nephilim are mentioned,in relation to the flood.&end times will be like the days of noah.Again we lust after angels.
@2skullscrushing you think this based on a lack of information. this is called "vanishing point" which is why you're clueless lol because you don't have all the peices to the puzzle. Noone does. Why make judgements or opinions based on a lack of information? proceed with your life, take care :)
@Richardb21 whos making judgements? i simply offered an opinion of what i believed, and i didnt tell you where i get my opinion from.. Who are you to say what facts I have, or know? I dont believe I spoke of anything like that, i merely stated what i believe. Which didnt concern you till you made it your business to . And proceed with your life? what the fuck does that mean. you just said no one knows, yet you think you do apparently? My info is based in the bible,take it up with God.
Oh my goodness this guy is awful. We have the sin seed passed down to all people which tells us through out the new and old testament. The worse part is I heard someone laugh in the audience. The laughing person was equally disturbing as that awful teaching is... if now worse, because they are so deceived. I pray this man either get saved or God take him away so he cannot lead any more people to hell.... cont....
@MrDeadphish lol and you think you know better. im not trying to be mean or condesending but sir.. ken klein has been studying, researching, writing, and producting films about these topics for years and years. any person who condemns ken is just ignornant (no offence). instead of judging a book by its cover, consider your vanishing point.. what? you dont know all the peices to the puzzle, so dont make judgements. this is called vanishing point, a lack of information. pure ignorance.
@Richardb21 if ken klien is misquoting the bible, I'm not going to listen to him. I'm sure I don't know as much as him, but I'm not preacing to anyone. logosapologia is just debunking him and I'm just agreeing with him. he seems to know more than me and mr. klien put together
Kevin Klein... that's new to me. Scary! The way people chuckle in his vid. The most essential doctrine of salvation... laughed at. Great job debunking such ridiculous heresy.
Whoa. Scientology, gnosticism, Kabbalah all in one!
Too bad people don't read Bible's explanation that life begins AT BIRTH. Sin nature is GENETICALLY transmitted through Adam, hence the Virgin Pregnancy. Juridical event for soul creation, is therefore BIRTH, pattern of Gen 2:7. First independent breath to last one (ekpsuchw).
The sin nature is genetic, but our sins remain volitional. So any baby dying goes straight to heaven. Simple. Biblical.
There are so many voices in the world today brother, it is enough to make our heads spin ...if we allow them to. This man Ken professes to be wise...this man has no Godly wisdom, no Holy Spirit and that is why he doesn't "get" "It" he is spiritually blind. A blind man leading the blind...leading those who love their sin. No use trying to explain truth to a dead man..Ken is dead in his sin... the dead hear nothing..God bless you brother
.... Those that refuse to accept the doctrine of God's eternal wrath reveal what they are really about. They are in fact self centered defenders of sin. The focus is not Christ. The focus is SELF and what SELF deems just.
John 3:36- He who believes the Son has everlasting life; he who does not believe the Son SHALL NOT SEE LIFE, BUT THE WRATH OF GOD ABIDES ON HIM.
It's all about the Son of God. Not us. Which is the major flaw in the minds of those who refuse to accept God's wrath. All of creation along with human beings are extras in a production about the Son of God. All things were made BY HIM and FOR HIM (Colossians 1:16)....
yes that video clip shows this guy is confused he has changed the doctrine of sin it seems when all the church agrees we all died in adam , i am glad someone sent me this video i agree this guy preaching he refers to is cultic
Um... The Lake of Fire is NOT A CLEANSING PROCESS. After all the dead have been judged, and those not found in the Book of Life are cast into the Lake of Fire, there is no return from it recorded after Rev. 20:15
The difference between the sin of the lost and the saved is that the lost justify or live with their sin- it goes uncontested. "Hey I'm human, God understands". Such is the mentality of one on a collision course with God's wrath- which is the mentality shared by all the people I've talked about this issue with that reject hell.
Make no mistake. All will confess Jesus as Lord- but that means nothing at the Judgment. Matt. 7:21-23 is definitive.
I have found that GOD is always just. We confuse mercy with Him being unjust. The real question is how the Holy Uncreated Creator can love us so much to come to this world in which we all have made corrupt, and die for us. His ways are not our ways, when will we start trusting Him?
Billy Idol music hardly exemplifies scriptural integrity...
People who disbelieve in hell, in fact, live perpetually in defense of their sin. Ephesians 5:1-7 has no place in the heart of such people.. And they will therefore be subject to God's wrath- regardless of there acceptance of it.
thanks for sending me your video appreciated. I am fairly open to the idea of angels good and bad boxing and fighting in some other domain we aren't supposed to understand and it might be a good idea for a book or movie but trinity denying added on scriptures/ revealations merchants are heresy heathens.
Pardon my french- i bet hes an apron wearing whoremaster in his spare time.
1 Timothy 6: 3-4 If any man teacheth a different doctrine, and consenteth not to sound words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness; he is puffed up, knowing nothing...
Thank you for this vid!! A very good response I would like to also say that when anyone presumes to teach about God & they do it falsely they absolutely must be corrected. Thank you for doing so. To this mans credit though I will say that he did state "I don't get it" That is understandable. I didn't get it either & thought God was unfair but, then there is trust. Do I trust God? I mean HE died for my sin. So, how could HE b unfair? It was then that scripture was open for my understanding.
Great message Brother. Thank you for boldly exposing this heretic and I hope you will do more videos like this one. Your video production skills are fantastic (bigwhammyrocks) but I also like this method...you just talking and teaching. Well done. Luke
This guy, Ken Klein (of whom I never heard until now), is WAAAAY out in left field!
Sounds like he could easily become another cult leader like Jim Jones, David Koresh, etc., imposing 'HIS' diseased mental disorder onto those who do not understand the Word of God well enough to know better. (ie. hysterical laughter of agreement in background.)
Let us pray he doesn't corrupt many more.
Thanks for distributing this. Maybe, some will see the light....
Thanks for this Chris. This Ken Klein thinks we're fallen angels? reborn as humans? going to be gods? LOL! and now Not born again!!! He's just another false teacher that has a hard time understanding the Bible, God's Word of Truth so he makes up his own gospel... I'd not heard of this guy, but he is truly a fruitcake! God bless you for standing firm in the Gospel.
Thank you for defending the truth.This guy is way off and it good that you are exposing his false teaching.Bro.David.WOW-Where do people come up with such strange views?
I had never heard of this guy before. But if he is getting radio time and is influencing people through different mediums than it is important to expose him. Thanks for sharing the info.
@bloodrunsclear Every Atheist I've EVER talked to, except for one, have been some of the most blood thirsty people I've ever met, they just rip Christians to shreds, no civility at all and they try to provoke us Christians to anger so they can then say "That's not a very Christian thing to say". I guess us Christians aren't human are we?
I don't think a video was necessary- not that it was wrong to make one, but this Klein guy is obviously totally lost. He's like an L. Ron Hubbard. Just needs to be ignored.
@sicstyl I thought it was necessary because he represents himself as Christian and he gets a lot of attention by appearing on Coast to Coast. He has a lot of material on YT and no one has addressed it. My concern was for new Christians who might not see his doctrinal errors right away. On the surface he talks like a Christian.
Actually, you are right in putting up this video. Whenever there is false doctrine afoot, light needs to be shed on it. It's just that false teachers are a judgment against lost people who desire a substitute for the truth. A born again Christian will pay no mind to such things. When a 'Christian' buys into the teachings of people like Klein, they reveal themselves to be false.
@LogosApologia ...yeah, I agree totally,//.....when someone who claims they are "Christian" and then claim to have "new knowledge" we have to look at them with our eyes focused on SCRIPTURE.. Jesus said the full canon of scripture was completed in the Book of Revelation and that NO MORE REVELATIONS SHOULD BE ADDED unto It!! meaning this last Book of the Bible is the FINAL WORD from GOD! so this man is a FAKE!!
@sicstyl this video was pretty good to reveal how confused leaders can make people ,,, we are born again in our spirit man and our old bodies will be changed at the rapture we are absent from the body and present with the lord in our spirit soul but the new bodies come at the rapture this guy preaching is a demon jesus is god dont forget it
so, i wonder what this guy would do with such things as demon possession. if WE are the fallen angels, then it must not exist (keep in mind i know it's not common...)
@Fil0girl He claims that all of the rebel angels were given a choice to either go with Satan or repent and work off their sins as human beings. We are the fallen angels who chose to become human. Which is completely incoherent with the rest of scripture.
@LogosApologia you must have heard incorrectly. have another listen to ken klein and do not judge a book by its cover. remember in the end of days god is supposed to reveil new revelations and that's what ken klein is doing. try to keep an open mind and dont be so quick to dismiss. have confidence in your faith. take care :)
Great job exposing these false teachings! Amos does say there will be a famine for the truth in these times! Boy! He wasn't kidding! This all falls into the category of the teachings that the "creators" are all coming back to rule the earth. People seem to be ready to follow anything, so vids like yours are so important!
Well said! :) This guy, whoever he maybe, is totally unbibical. He's taking issue with the fact that Adam sin, and since we are born of adam (being dead to God) we have by birth inherited that fallen nature of our father Adam.
The hypocrisy is that he takes problem with how sin enter our world and why this world is how it is at the moment, but he forget that he and myself have sinned, do sin and sin equal death. We are living by the Grace of God through Christ, so walk humbly.
for all have sinned and come shortly to the glory of God.like you said this is a cult.the bible does say we would be equal to angles and im assuming after death,also says we are the sons of God.but that is the holy spirit that lives within us/born again.
This Klein guy has false teacher written all over him. Appealing to man's sense of justice over God's sense of justice combined with man's pride is a bad mix.
Yea I watched some of his coffee talk videos some time back and thought this guy is so unbiblical it ain't even funny. He is preaching his own gospel and not Jesus. I also believe people that think they will become gods have a huge ego problem..like Lucifer.
your message about Kevin Klein appears infromative and correct when comparing to scripture but I don't know anything about him so I will do research on him befrore I approve of your video completely. However, I do love the message about God's word you are spreading with this video and I hope you keep up the good work. May God bless you and keep you.
mayjason84 1 month ago
Can you tell me ANY part of Christianity that has not evolved and been manipulated through the years. All religions are contrived snow balls of warped human imaginations... propogated by people who love to follow and not think things out. Religion IS the problem. Not the solution. Seek truth. Simple, provable, scientific truth. So much drops away under those guidelines. Otherwise... hey!... beLIEve anything you want. This guy is no better than Ken. Both crave attention.
Tryn2bkind 4 months ago
Can you tell me ANY part of Christianity that has not evolved and been manipulated through the years. All religions are contrived snow balls of warped human imaginations... propogated by people who love to follow and not think things out. Religion IS the problem. Not the solution. Seek truth. Simple, provable, scientific truth. So much drops away under those guidelines. Otherwise... hey!... beLIEve anything you want.
Tryn2bkind 4 months ago
To know who Adam is you need to know what Jesus says.
Revelation 22:16 "I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star."
In Luke 3:31 we find David, the root of David is found in Luke 3:38, Adam and the offspring of David is found in Luke 3:23, Jesus.
It is clear to me that the Spirit that was in Jesus is the same Spirit that was in Adam. Adam took on Eves sin just like Jesus did for us.
MrJAbear1 6 months ago 2
Genesis 5:2 "Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created."
As to ADAM, it is clear that ADAM was the name for both the male and female when they were first created. Later the male ADAM named His wife Eve. (Genesis 3:20 KJV)
1Timothy 2:14 "And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression."
Ken knows who the male ADAM is and thats why he knows we are not dieing for a sin ADAM never committed.
MrJAbear1 6 months ago 2
John 10:34 "Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?"
Psalms 82:6 "I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the Most High."
I do not believe everything Ken teaches but read Psalms 82 for yourself, it starts with this, Psalms 82:1 "A Psalm of Asaph. God standeth in the congregation of the mighty; he judgeth among the gods." Seems clear to me, we are gods.
MrJAbear1 6 months ago 2
LogosApologia is a prominant example of the devilworshippers, also called called christians. In the future people like him will be used as examples of how the worshippers of the demon Jehovah used to behave.
Thesortvokter 9 months ago
even your facial expressions are not that of a man whp has peace, but project a HOSTILE, CRITICAL, SUPERIOIRITY COMPLEX
qweedow 1 year ago
@qweedow Don't you know that all christians are spiritual fascists? They have to be, sucking up to a "God" who will burn their fellow man in hell.
Thesortvokter 9 months ago
@qweedow
well said, looks extremely gay to me, poor lost soul!
howesnickable 1 month ago
your body language is atrociously obnoxious. it gives ppl bad vibes
qweedow 1 year ago
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qweedow 1 year ago
Stop worring about others. you know that those who preach are under a warning and if they preach wrongly they will pay for it dearly.
sigwoods 1 year ago
Thank you Chris. I can see how people can be deceived by this man's false teaching. We always have to go back to the bible. It is good enough.
NRH117 1 year ago
Yeah, that Ken guy lost it. Did he mix the Bible with the Koran or something??
mwilliams0320 1 year ago
What more needs to be said? The guy seems to be smoking something.
boycotthell2005 1 year ago
"For surely it is not angels that he helps, but he helps the offspring of Abraham." (Heb 2:16)
LogosApologia 1 year ago
Sorry i havent commented on the video.. I havent been on youtube fer months.
alexross8 1 year ago
Hey it's Big whamy rocks,you can't mistake that voice anywhere.God Bless.
CBALLEN 1 year ago
a chicken and egg question
why(when) did Christ come into the world?... to reconcile us from our sins!
In the Beginning GOD created the Heavens and the Earth why divided man from heavens (He knew sin was coming?)
1 Cr 2:7 But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, [even] the hidden [wisdom], which God ordained _before the world_ unto our glory
when did Christ first know sin (at the cross) 4000 yrs after adam
reconorder 1 year ago
Vindicated! FAIR USE wins the day. I was informed by You Tube today that Ken Klein Productions Digital Millennium Copyright Act complaint has been denied and this video is LIVE.
LogosApologia 1 year ago
No doubt about it, Ken Klein has definitely lost it. From where is he getting his information?
One cannot be a Christian if they do not accept the Bible as the Word of God.
...Just as one cannot be a Christian unless God chooses them.
Thanks Cris - this guy needed to be exposed.
silmalila 1 year ago
@silmalila It now appears he is getting his information from a channeler or as his staff put it a "manifester."
LogosApologia 1 year ago
@LogosApologia Where did you get this information about the channeler or manifester.
NRH117 1 year ago
@NRH117 It was an email from KenKleinProductions. That was the defense from Ken's staff member self titled "manifester" for their denial of original sin. The email on my website is an exact cut and paste of what I recieved.
LogosApologia 1 year ago
Nice video, thanks for bringing our attention to this guy.
mmakram 1 year ago
wow, Gee, I wish I could blame all my shortcomings on me being a fallen angel! But this is just not true. This is typical of the "famine for the truth" in the last days. Many false teachers will come. If He really thought he was teaching truth and doing it for the Lord, he would not threaten to sue you. I understand that none of us translate the Bible perfectly, but he is definitely over the top!
Lachance8 1 year ago
Thanks for correcting Klein's claims... There are many wolfs in sheeps clothes and we should be aware of that. Amen
eriblood 1 year ago
Klein definitely has some big issues that I pray the LORD deal with swiftly. I say this:
"A man that is an heretick after the first and second admonition reject; Knowing that he that is such is subverted, and sinneth, being condemned of himself" ~Titus 3:10-11
IF this Klein fella has not received the Truth; then he must be utterly REJECTED; 'handed over to Satan'. *The most pressing matter here is that he is 'teaching' this junk to others; sadly, o/are receiving it. LORD REBUKE HIM!
78sEVEn78 1 year ago
Thanks brother for responding to error with the truth. I had not heard of Mr. Klein but he is in desperate need of basic Christian instruction. 5 stars.
bzel333 1 year ago
Ken sounds like an angle worshiper. He might have a fallen angel in him. I will pray for him. I will pray that those he decieves eyes are opened.
hellavadeal 1 year ago
True- Romans 5:32 doesn't exist Klein clearly meant Rom 5:11 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
His err about the verse# is nothing compared to his err in understanding the verse, it does say by one man (Adam) sin (and death by sin) entered the world.
Oprah also thinks God isn't fair or right, because he's 'jealous God' and this just doesn't sit with her- therefor Oprahs solution, Eckhart Tolle.
anyusmoon1 1 year ago
The oldest lie, in the book. Exactly!!!
vudumojo 1 year ago
wait a minute, is this the Guy that did "angel wars" cartoon?
the7ronin 1 year ago
I believe the fall was about DNA.lucifur seduced eve, and invited adam too. eve had twins. cain was from lucifur,able in adams image. if you notice genesis 5:3 cain is left out of the geneology,(yet still alive but not counted) and God says that seth, was in adams own likeness, in his own image. 2 descriptions to assure the reader.Whose image would he be in? Then later, Gen 6:4 nephilim are mentioned,in relation to the flood.&end times will be like the days of noah.Again we lust after angels.
2skullscrushing 1 year ago
@2skullscrushing you think this based on a lack of information. this is called "vanishing point" which is why you're clueless lol because you don't have all the peices to the puzzle. Noone does. Why make judgements or opinions based on a lack of information? proceed with your life, take care :)
Richardb21 1 year ago
@Richardb21 whos making judgements? i simply offered an opinion of what i believed, and i didnt tell you where i get my opinion from.. Who are you to say what facts I have, or know? I dont believe I spoke of anything like that, i merely stated what i believe. Which didnt concern you till you made it your business to . And proceed with your life? what the fuck does that mean. you just said no one knows, yet you think you do apparently? My info is based in the bible,take it up with God.
2skullscrushing 1 year ago
Oh my goodness this guy is awful. We have the sin seed passed down to all people which tells us through out the new and old testament. The worse part is I heard someone laugh in the audience. The laughing person was equally disturbing as that awful teaching is... if now worse, because they are so deceived. I pray this man either get saved or God take him away so he cannot lead any more people to hell.... cont....
Digital196701 1 year ago
is ken klien trying to start a new cult, or is he just a little confused?
MrDeadphish 1 year ago
@MrDeadphish lol and you think you know better. im not trying to be mean or condesending but sir.. ken klein has been studying, researching, writing, and producting films about these topics for years and years. any person who condemns ken is just ignornant (no offence). instead of judging a book by its cover, consider your vanishing point.. what? you dont know all the peices to the puzzle, so dont make judgements. this is called vanishing point, a lack of information. pure ignorance.
Richardb21 1 year ago
@Richardb21 if ken klien is misquoting the bible, I'm not going to listen to him. I'm sure I don't know as much as him, but I'm not preacing to anyone. logosapologia is just debunking him and I'm just agreeing with him. he seems to know more than me and mr. klien put together
MrDeadphish 1 year ago
Kevin Klein... that's new to me. Scary! The way people chuckle in his vid. The most essential doctrine of salvation... laughed at. Great job debunking such ridiculous heresy.
littleman684 1 year ago
Very interesting brother, I like your style, hard debunkage !!! God bless you brother
CreationistsWON 1 year ago
Whoa. Scientology, gnosticism, Kabbalah all in one!
Too bad people don't read Bible's explanation that life begins AT BIRTH. Sin nature is GENETICALLY transmitted through Adam, hence the Virgin Pregnancy. Juridical event for soul creation, is therefore BIRTH, pattern of Gen 2:7. First independent breath to last one (ekpsuchw).
The sin nature is genetic, but our sins remain volitional. So any baby dying goes straight to heaven. Simple. Biblical.
brainouty 1 year ago
There are so many voices in the world today brother, it is enough to make our heads spin ...if we allow them to. This man Ken professes to be wise...this man has no Godly wisdom, no Holy Spirit and that is why he doesn't "get" "It" he is spiritually blind. A blind man leading the blind...leading those who love their sin. No use trying to explain truth to a dead man..Ken is dead in his sin... the dead hear nothing..God bless you brother
ASeedSower234 1 year ago
@theawakener7
.... Those that refuse to accept the doctrine of God's eternal wrath reveal what they are really about. They are in fact self centered defenders of sin. The focus is not Christ. The focus is SELF and what SELF deems just.
sicstyl 1 year ago
@sicstyl
.... And if Christ is not the supreme focus... One is totally lost.
sicstyl 1 year ago
@theawakener7
John 3:36- He who believes the Son has everlasting life; he who does not believe the Son SHALL NOT SEE LIFE, BUT THE WRATH OF GOD ABIDES ON HIM.
It's all about the Son of God. Not us. Which is the major flaw in the minds of those who refuse to accept God's wrath. All of creation along with human beings are extras in a production about the Son of God. All things were made BY HIM and FOR HIM (Colossians 1:16)....
sicstyl 1 year ago
yes that video clip shows this guy is confused he has changed the doctrine of sin it seems when all the church agrees we all died in adam , i am glad someone sent me this video i agree this guy preaching he refers to is cultic
ncbookz 1 year ago
@theawakener7
Um... The Lake of Fire is NOT A CLEANSING PROCESS. After all the dead have been judged, and those not found in the Book of Life are cast into the Lake of Fire, there is no return from it recorded after Rev. 20:15
sicstyl 1 year ago
@theawakener7
The difference between the sin of the lost and the saved is that the lost justify or live with their sin- it goes uncontested. "Hey I'm human, God understands". Such is the mentality of one on a collision course with God's wrath- which is the mentality shared by all the people I've talked about this issue with that reject hell.
Make no mistake. All will confess Jesus as Lord- but that means nothing at the Judgment. Matt. 7:21-23 is definitive.
sicstyl 1 year ago
I have found that GOD is always just. We confuse mercy with Him being unjust. The real question is how the Holy Uncreated Creator can love us so much to come to this world in which we all have made corrupt, and die for us. His ways are not our ways, when will we start trusting Him?
jdigitalseven 1 year ago
i think hes trying to start a cult
cifa2510 1 year ago
@theawakener7
Billy Idol music hardly exemplifies scriptural integrity...
People who disbelieve in hell, in fact, live perpetually in defense of their sin. Ephesians 5:1-7 has no place in the heart of such people.. And they will therefore be subject to God's wrath- regardless of there acceptance of it.
sicstyl 1 year ago
It's also David, a man after God's heart who wrote "Behold, I was brought forth in iniquity, and in sin did my mother conceive me" PS 51:5
matt3i6 1 year ago
Hello Chris,
thanks for sending me your video appreciated. I am fairly open to the idea of angels good and bad boxing and fighting in some other domain we aren't supposed to understand and it might be a good idea for a book or movie but trinity denying added on scriptures/ revealations merchants are heresy heathens.
Pardon my french- i bet hes an apron wearing whoremaster in his spare time.
greenmagoos 1 year ago
Thanks for the heads up. Klein is headed down the road to ruin.
apologiamixer 1 year ago
1 Timothy 6: 3-4 If any man teacheth a different doctrine, and consenteth not to sound words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness; he is puffed up, knowing nothing...
Another itching ears teacher..
thanks for the video to warn others.
fontz2001 1 year ago
Thank you for this vid!! A very good response I would like to also say that when anyone presumes to teach about God & they do it falsely they absolutely must be corrected. Thank you for doing so. To this mans credit though I will say that he did state "I don't get it" That is understandable. I didn't get it either & thought God was unfair but, then there is trust. Do I trust God? I mean HE died for my sin. So, how could HE b unfair? It was then that scripture was open for my understanding.
funiron 1 year ago
@theawakener7
Hypocrisy is to give someone a talking to about the truths of God and have Billy Idol's Flesh for Fantasy video listed in your Favorites.
sicstyl 1 year ago
Great message Brother. Thank you for boldly exposing this heretic and I hope you will do more videos like this one. Your video production skills are fantastic (bigwhammyrocks) but I also like this method...you just talking and teaching. Well done. Luke
sincitypreacher 1 year ago
Sounds like KK is Much Worse than the KKK.
Looks like he got Way Too Full of himself when he Adds to God's Word. Blasphemy, Heresy.
3martijns 1 year ago
This guy, Ken Klein (of whom I never heard until now), is WAAAAY out in left field!
Sounds like he could easily become another cult leader like Jim Jones, David Koresh, etc., imposing 'HIS' diseased mental disorder onto those who do not understand the Word of God well enough to know better. (ie. hysterical laughter of agreement in background.)
Let us pray he doesn't corrupt many more.
Thanks for distributing this. Maybe, some will see the light....
RonRay 1 year ago
Too many helmet to helmet hits lol. God bless you brother!!!
wizzy2k4 1 year ago
WOW, he's wacko.
1689Baptist 1 year ago
Thanks for this Chris. This Ken Klein thinks we're fallen angels? reborn as humans? going to be gods? LOL! and now Not born again!!! He's just another false teacher that has a hard time understanding the Bible, God's Word of Truth so he makes up his own gospel... I'd not heard of this guy, but he is truly a fruitcake! God bless you for standing firm in the Gospel.
rureyeswideopen2 1 year ago
Thank you for defending the truth.This guy is way off and it good that you are exposing his false teaching.Bro.David.WOW-Where do people come up with such strange views?
aflame4God 1 year ago
wow..cults def work that way.
Ruckcuz01 1 year ago
I had never heard of this guy before. But if he is getting radio time and is influencing people through different mediums than it is important to expose him. Thanks for sharing the info.
TrustinJC 1 year ago
Good job, brother. Good job indeed!
TheCannonofMohammed 1 year ago
What does he base his doctrine on? New revelation? It has to be, you can't make a textual argument for it out of the Bible.
dkreichen1968 1 year ago
@bloodrunsclear Every Atheist I've EVER talked to, except for one, have been some of the most blood thirsty people I've ever met, they just rip Christians to shreds, no civility at all and they try to provoke us Christians to anger so they can then say "That's not a very Christian thing to say". I guess us Christians aren't human are we?
TheAmazingJimmy 1 year ago
I don't think a video was necessary- not that it was wrong to make one, but this Klein guy is obviously totally lost. He's like an L. Ron Hubbard. Just needs to be ignored.
sicstyl 1 year ago 2
@sicstyl I thought it was necessary because he represents himself as Christian and he gets a lot of attention by appearing on Coast to Coast. He has a lot of material on YT and no one has addressed it. My concern was for new Christians who might not see his doctrinal errors right away. On the surface he talks like a Christian.
LogosApologia 1 year ago 4
@LogosApologia
So THATS what you look like! Finally I know lol.
gneisenau321 1 year ago
@LogosApologia
Actually, you are right in putting up this video. Whenever there is false doctrine afoot, light needs to be shed on it. It's just that false teachers are a judgment against lost people who desire a substitute for the truth. A born again Christian will pay no mind to such things. When a 'Christian' buys into the teachings of people like Klein, they reveal themselves to be false.
sicstyl 1 year ago
@LogosApologia ...yeah, I agree totally,//.....when someone who claims they are "Christian" and then claim to have "new knowledge" we have to look at them with our eyes focused on SCRIPTURE.. Jesus said the full canon of scripture was completed in the Book of Revelation and that NO MORE REVELATIONS SHOULD BE ADDED unto It!! meaning this last Book of the Bible is the FINAL WORD from GOD! so this man is a FAKE!!
peacechild61 1 year ago
@sicstyl this video was pretty good to reveal how confused leaders can make people ,,, we are born again in our spirit man and our old bodies will be changed at the rapture we are absent from the body and present with the lord in our spirit soul but the new bodies come at the rapture this guy preaching is a demon jesus is god dont forget it
ncbookz 1 year ago
This Ken guy is another nutcase working for satan!
lonewolf1264 1 year ago
so, i wonder what this guy would do with such things as demon possession. if WE are the fallen angels, then it must not exist (keep in mind i know it's not common...)
Fil0girl 1 year ago
@Fil0girl He claims that all of the rebel angels were given a choice to either go with Satan or repent and work off their sins as human beings. We are the fallen angels who chose to become human. Which is completely incoherent with the rest of scripture.
LogosApologia 1 year ago
@LogosApologia Huh, I guess all the pain and travail of child bearing would be a figment of our 'godlike' imaginations? God have Mercy!
anyusmoon1 1 year ago
@LogosApologia you must have heard incorrectly. have another listen to ken klein and do not judge a book by its cover. remember in the end of days god is supposed to reveil new revelations and that's what ken klein is doing. try to keep an open mind and dont be so quick to dismiss. have confidence in your faith. take care :)
Richardb21 1 year ago
Great job exposing these false teachings! Amos does say there will be a famine for the truth in these times! Boy! He wasn't kidding! This all falls into the category of the teachings that the "creators" are all coming back to rule the earth. People seem to be ready to follow anything, so vids like yours are so important!
Lachance8 1 year ago
Well done!
TheEdge012 1 year ago
Well said! :) This guy, whoever he maybe, is totally unbibical. He's taking issue with the fact that Adam sin, and since we are born of adam (being dead to God) we have by birth inherited that fallen nature of our father Adam.
The hypocrisy is that he takes problem with how sin enter our world and why this world is how it is at the moment, but he forget that he and myself have sinned, do sin and sin equal death. We are living by the Grace of God through Christ, so walk humbly.
Xeonxtreme 1 year ago
Bold face Pelagianism. There really are no new heresies. great job.
bzel333 1 year ago 6
for all have sinned and come shortly to the glory of God.like you said this is a cult.the bible does say we would be equal to angles and im assuming after death,also says we are the sons of God.but that is the holy spirit that lives within us/born again.
davymatheny 1 year ago
This Klein guy has false teacher written all over him. Appealing to man's sense of justice over God's sense of justice combined with man's pride is a bad mix.
nexxus111 1 year ago
the sad part is- people actually listen to that guy..
Great video
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LogosApologia 1 year ago
@LogosApologia dang!
yrulooknatme 1 year ago
im not gonna listen to ken klein.
Ascendillusion 1 year ago
You were quite polite about your concerns. I wish theologians (and atheists) could more often have this kind of civility.
bloodrunsclear 1 year ago
The "fallen creators" huh? Oh boy ... you can tell right off the bat this isn't going to be good.
FillTheirVoid 1 year ago
@FillTheirVoid and the bonus is you are a fallen creator... wow!
LogosApologia 1 year ago
Yea I watched some of his coffee talk videos some time back and thought this guy is so unbiblical it ain't even funny. He is preaching his own gospel and not Jesus. I also believe people that think they will become gods have a huge ego problem..like Lucifer.
jesusrules2012 1 year ago
@jesusrules2012 Exactly... he never says where all of this new information comes from either. Probably gold plates in the woods...
LogosApologia 1 year ago