Most of the foreigners only know the Han Chinese but know nothing or just a little about the other ethnics, so this video is helpful in giving them a broader perspective about China. Such diversity just shows the delicacy and greatness of China as a modern, strong, united country and nation!
I just don't get it why some should comment negatively here on this beautiful video :) what's wrong with their sights??? :D
btw CFENSI, a blog which focuses on Chinese entertainment news did mention the works of Chen Haiwen in his great efforts, traveled across China for one year to take the pictures of the 56 ethnics of the People's Republic of China "56 Family Portraits of 56 Chinese Ethnics"
Sinocentrism is Asia. Same way Islam is the Middle East. Almost every ethnic group in Asia has become part of China. Dont need philosophy or state media. Its just a historical fact. There is nothing wrong with it. China is a large country with a myriad of different Mongoloids.
Well guess that would suit your insulated mind set. Just hang around the People's Republic of China and have your comfortable, self rightous and Sino- supremacist philosophy further reinforced by the biased state controlled media that is all you will ever know. Just bath yourself in ignorance and insulation like so many Chinese ultra nationalists. I know reality through assertion. Tell yourself the same convenient lie enough times and you might just believe it.
@dragondescent Do you even know why China did not started War? Because THEY CAN"T!! WHY? BECAUSE IF THEY DO THAT, China get rape really badly from US and with his allies! Do you know China started to threath Southern Asia with Military?? Do you know how many times that China minding on other small ethinics with their force?? Do you know how human rights in China corrupted?? Do you even know how the war started from US? You really do need to focuse on reality and see the truth.
Chinese holocost against minor can effect on neighbroing countries. People don't know when China start to take over more of other terratory. So Korea and Japan have to cooperate also with Asia to stop China's growth.
@dragondescent Why you not want me to disrupting China since you Chinese are disrupting other minor ethnics? is it like winner against minor ethinics which is you guys want to be keep being a winner against poor minor and prevent outsider put attention on those poor minority ethincs?? So that you guys can still keeping those minor ethnics's land culture??? We are neighbor. US, Wester, Asia should concern about this problem deeply. Only key is that China get crush and China will be crushed sure.
@dragondescent How is this have to do with my own life?? I'm telling the fact. Han Chiense believe that minor ehtnics are admitting that they are Chinese. But most of them are not. Every day, Tibetans, Uguru protest. Just like Korean independent worrior during Japanese era. This protest cycle during period and there are no way for China to stop this protest cycle. Oh, and even inner Mongolians started to think about fighting against China.
Stop disturbing other ethnics you Chinese. Ethnics want to be free from China. Free Southern Mongolia!!!!!!! US should send their army to China to Crush and free all other hostile ethinics!!!!!!!
@veracuiz US should send their army to China, why don't they. Next time if you want to impress or catch people's attention, present your idea with fact, who give f### about your opinion. US the superpower was defeated by a bunch of viet namese geeks, that was the fact Jack!!!!!
Okay all of them are fugly except the girl in 3:02. Thats why I watched this video in the first place. Ahahahahah. Also don't say Koreans look good because of double eye surgery. Some are actually genetics. My dad tend to have it for some reason and my grandfather too. Koreans saw this as a way to make unsatified Koreans to beauty. We can't just invent double eye lid unless we already experienced it.
@Xyeho pathetic pig faced korean troll,this not beauty contest,btw look at yourself in the mirror,you look like a typical brownish piggy korean kimchi monster.Talking about double eyelids?I know korea has much much lower natural double eye lid rate than china especially southern china and northwestern china
@Xyeho I think you should have experience in usa? most of the chinese descendants there were from canton and fujian of southern china where the double eyelid rate is pretty high
@Xyeho cantonese and fujianese are han chinese subgroup too itz just that chinese territory is too large compared to korea or japan so they have much higher physical diversity,just like europeans from germany generally look significantly different from those from Italy
@GodsCommand well yeah I guess so. They are all both Roman Empire Bloodlines. Anyways if this wasn't a models of chinese girls. Whats the point of it? Telling this is all chinese?
That is rude to call people ugly. Perhaps you were not brought up with manners. Also, double eyelid does not equal beaut. My boyfriend is very handsome and does not have the double eyelid. I prefer it this way.
@saphiredewdrop w8 w8 w8? What did I do again? Chinese call Koreans Ugly. So Koreans call Chinese ugly. Get the facts right -_-;; Also your bf is a girl? I said the girls on that video was ugly. And this was my opinion. You might have right to argue. But it doesn't give me ideas to change it. I am male myself. You should know how men's express their feelings. There is no manners in it. I was just telling my opinion. Yeah now plz this comment is 2 weeks old. Don't comment me.
people calling people ugly come from uneducated, ignorant, individuals. do not clump a whole ethnic group into one. and, there are men who do have manners in the way they speak. if you have nothing nice to say, then keep your mouth shut. the only ugly thing on this page are your ugly words about your fellow human beings. before calling others ugly, look at yourself in the mirror. re examine yourself, inside and out.
@saphiredewdrop apparently your chinese yourself -_-;; Sigh....all this biased shits! What is a mannerful way to say to girls? That they don't look well? Is that sound good for you? Nobody is perfect. You are not perfect. I am not perfect. The way you say I am ugly. There is no point of argueing. Also the one who comment me is you. So you keep your mouth shut. The only things that make youtube said. Is people with biased opinions. Like me, you, and others. -_-;;
i'm not Chinese, but i have dated korean and chinese guys. both can have double eyelids and both can be without.
and just because you have an ugly opinion does not mean you need to share. and my opinion of you is, you were not raised properly and you have no manners. you can argue if you like, but if you spew your opinions just realize some people may go against you.
@saphiredewdrop Oh okay. But look at our neighbors comments. Plastic Surgery and all Cosmetic Surgery about Korea. This gives us the right to make our opinions about Chinese. You should know better to not get in a fight that you don't even understand. Also Ugly Opinion? Is that even a logical answer? In my Info. I said either its good or bad opinion. I never go back on my words. What r you in my site for then? Check a guy out?
You are trying so hard to defend your ugly opinions, saying it is human nature. Well, as human nature I am allowed to have my opinion of you. Your attitude and manners are ugly. This is my opinion of you and your words and they will not change. Your opinions probably will not change either. But in the meantime, this is my definition of you.
@saphiredewdrop Lol yeah sure. you sure are full of yourself. I think you are ugly too. In many ways. First you talk like you dominate the world. Second, if you were really mature. You would stay out of it. Third. I am only 16 -_-;; and you still argue with him; other than conversing it out. You have now taught me that, you are much same.
I can't be full of myself if I'm not judging ones looks and calling them ugly. And I didn't know you are 16. I think at 16 you should be wise enough to not call others ugly. If you are Christian then you should know not to say things like you did. I'm Christian as well and I was taught to not judge someone on their outer appearance. You can leave it at that. But you want to fight those who do not share your view.
@saphiredewdrop Yeah so leave it at this way. You are Christian and I am Christian. But we argue in part of opinions. Even I am Christian I am not fully pledged. But I did faced miracles of God. Which makes me Christian. But yes most asian parents say Asians should be wiser at their high school level. But one thing you are not getting from is that. I am very politically active person also. I am Nationalist, Republican. Even my words are ugly. Its just an opinion.
@saphiredewdrop Plus, you should know by now that. I am very impatient person with huge temper. Out of my political views. I am also fighter. In mixed martial art I tell you that. So I don't recommend you to ignite my temper. Besides, you can't just say I like all those Chinese girls. Everybody has different types.
@Xyeho you being and impatient person is not my problem. that is something you as a person must deal with. and you are right, everyone has different tastes. i see people i do not find attractive, however, i do not say it out loud. whose place is it to tell someone they are ugly? even if i say someone is beautiful and another person disagrees, i can not get angry because that is their opinion.
@saphiredewdrop you did got angry when I said it -_-;; Saying out loud? They don't even know that I even said this. They probably don't have internet connections. Because Traditional Chinese Religions they are in is strictly forbidden for to use internet. They believe its evil source of destruction. -_-;;
Both the CCP (Chinese communist party) and CPK (Communist party of Korea) are simply manifestation of almost everything stupid existing in the Far Eastern Culture. Like all the stupidity they are doing is nothing new, almost every inept and cynical ruler ever since the Qin Dynasty and Gojoseon do the same thing. Moreover, the leaders seems to have a gigantic ego of showing off with luxuries and being totally indifferent of the poverty of the greater populations.
@Balencian hmmm...sorry I kinda disagree with your opinion. In God's Nature. Human have different oppression, and plans. Gojoseon was country formed out of 3 main tribes. Awhile Qin Dynasty was in whole. So Gojoseon's Kings did know best to understand its people. Also how can you compare imperialism to communism? Sure they are one ruler till dead. But Imperialism let peasants, and nobles to move around. Unlike Communism, they trap you like dogs.
Even when I said Gojoseon, I hope you know from archaeological evidences presented in the "Korean Journal" there are many doubts whether such a "state" even existed or it is just some propaganda made up by Silla after their unification. For instance, Goguryeo came from the North not the Korean Peninsula and after Silla captured their terrorities, their remnants continue to resist independently in the North. It is probable the 3 kingdoms are never the same race to begin with.
@Balencian Okay here is the how Korea became Korea. History back to start of Korea started with two country of ethnicity. By Gojoseon, and Jin. Silla is part of Jin. Koguryo is part of Koguryo. What make this truth about Korea is that. I am and some Koreans are related to both part of the kingdoms. As you know my grandma's surname is Ko. Her ancestors stated a journal of escaping Koguryo during Silla Tang alliance attack. During three kingdoms. Both Jin, and Gojoseon were already mixed.
The last name Ko (高) is also very common in China as far back as in the Han Dynasty, how are you sure your ancestors really originated from Korea?Everything you stated is simply come from what you want to believe in and things you heard people say. As far as I am concern. almost all states started off as chiefdom then developed into state through time or influence by others, archaeological record showed all 3 Korean kingdoms were influenced by Han China at the start.
@Balencian ahahahha....you didn't forget that when Koguryo was conquered by Tang. The 200,000 citizens were sent to being hostage right? The what you said about lots of Ko surnames being found in Common China means. Their ancestors was once mighty Koguryo that became peasants, nobles, and to what we call heroes. Ahhaha you almost trick me there. Also not all Korean kingdoms were influenced by China. They started of by influencing themselves till some reliable things came in. -Continued-
Before you continue, do you know "Balhae", successor of Goguryo that remain independent.
And also unlike most states, Tang was quite metropolitan, while many Goguryoens became slaves, many were also rewarded joining the Tang. For example, General Gao Xianzhi.
@Balencian ahhaa.. so are you going to admit that Koguryo is Korean people? Or you going to make this conversation difficult? Chinese changed Koguryeons surnames to bring down the Koguryo history. Also Balhae was fallen by Khitans. Not China. Of course they will be independent with other countries. They are successors of Koguryo. Which means they are only Koguryo from beginning with till Koryo came in. I might have mere IQ of 150 but don't try to trick me here.
General Gao Shun (高順) of han Dynasty and Emperor Gao Heng (高恆) of Qi lived and was recorded before the time of Goguryo; hence, saying Chinese changed Koguyeons' surname is simply a bullcrap.And thanks for countering your own argument that goguryeo was enslaved by Tang by stating Balhae survived.
Lol...I am not even going to boost about my IQ level virtually online; like I said any personal character and attributes are bullshit, go by facts.
@Balencian so what are you Chinese. You sure to protecting Chinese's History, and Problems. Ahahahaha! Also FYI....my IQ was said on my brain structure, not by online bullcrap. You are ridiculously dumb without knowing your opponent. You cannot judge.
Before talking about IQ and Brain structure, do you know which "component" of the brain responsible for your cognitive thinking? I do not know you in person, so I do not undersndard why I have to believe you saying you are IQ 150 from your online bullcrap. Personally from experience, the true dumb-asses are the one that never know they are dumb asses. And I am glad I do know Koreans in real life, or else seeing people like you, I will get the wrong feeling about their national character
@Balencian Are you starting to stereotype? Wow this is why Chinese are ignorant. Wow De Ja Vu. When are you Chinese are going to leave Koreans alone? Are u serious? If you must know...I am very high tempered, and blood pressured. The traits are being dissolved and remade. You can follow your mother's Traits or your Father's trait. I gain my temper from my dad. If I were to luckily get my grandfather's trait. Then I would give you the best answer. Also I find my best answers from my grandpa.
"When are you Chinese are going to leave Koreans alone?"
-Just for misc, you are in a video about China not Korea, I did not cross to the Koran border to stir up fight. Anyways, bye now. I do not think I can win at internet dicussion against someone who claimed themselves to be the descendent of the Silla Royal house (a nation that existed over 1000 years) simply because their grandfather said so.
@Balencian Also if you have not look into what religions was used for. Buddhism was used in Korea to bring Monarchs that past royal ancestors lost. Like Family conflicts, or in Economical, Political, and Financial problems. Most China dynasty was influenced by Korean's Smiths. The most of the reason why most Korean Swords, and China's swords being common was because of trade with Gaya, Silla, and Paekche. Also Paekche is blood brothers to Koguryo, and Japan. Unless you can explain me differently
You think a small state like Gaya can support the whole China? During the Han-Xiongnu wars, China smithery is one of the most desired items for a reason, Gaya was not even a significant minor power at this point.
Where do you think Buddhism came from? Jin China, an ally of Baekje.
Baekje and Goguryo was not blood brothers, they are mortal enemies and was constantly at war with one another. On the otherhand, Baekje and Yamato Japan shared many bonds and their kings prob intermarry.
@Balencian then prove why Koguryo and Paekche are not blood brothers. Tell me how Paekche was established. According to Samguksagi, Paekche was established due to So Seo No, wife of Jumong abandoned their princes for his blood son Yuri. Are you going to make rumors out of Samguksagi as well?
Samguk Sagi by Kim Busiki is a collection of ethnocentric tales that he gathered which may have historical truths but also reflective of his personal bias.
Even Sima Qian had his bias when writing Shiji but he is aware of this bias and noted it. However those who followed him have no qualms about the possibility of Bias, this is why History in Asia became such a big mess at the end.
@Balencian Hahaha yeah....so the ones that believe in these stuffs must really came down from the History. If you know. Most believers are descended down from one and only their ancestors. If you are really smart. I would recommend you challenging my grandfather. He knows about history more than me. And he say my ancestor was last king of Silla. King Gyeongsun of Silla! And okay...to be sure. I am only arguing about in this video was about who is the prettiest. Not Korean or Chinese history.
And to be fair, there are little evidences of a "unified State of Xia, Shang, Zhou" before the warring states and is unificator Qin. People at those time think differently from us, and the kings are no different. You honestly think imperialists think peasants/ slaves move around? Consider so many books about "this place" and "this place" are only for the aristocracy.
@Balencian according to my fellow Chinese friend. He said that Chinese government with monarch was very complex state in order. Why do you think Chinese dynasties never overcome 500 years in present? Because there kings were very unorganized in balancing out its people. Do not compare with every kings of every countries, and nation. That is extremist, nationalist talk.
For a land as vast as China, clearly, their government and monarch is very complex and advanced. Whydo you think Silla and Yamato (Japan) sent people to learn from Tang and copy their government system back to their homeland? Archaeological evidences support this and btw, many of what I said is taught to me by someone actually trained in Korean archaeology. Every country have their own version nationalistic bullcrap of origin but reality is mostly quite humble to begin with.
@Balencian by you saying of someone taught in Korean archaeology. Most of the Korean histories were burned off by neighboring China, and Japan. We have no right to prove our fallen histories because of it. Most of your opinions goes down to drain. During fallen of Paekche...my ancestral fore farthers went down to Cheju Island. Thats why most people of Japan, and Chinese say that we are from that small island, and controvert that Koguryo was Manchu's land, and not Korea.
You cannot burn of what are not excavated; archaeology is not history books, you can't burn something not found yet, and many of the evidences I said are dug up by South Korean archaeologists in the post colonial era.
Btw, so you have actual family history record dated over 1000 years ago? I would not trust any folklore pass on one generation to another, if everyone goes by your standard, everyone would have claimed their ancestors are national heroes and royalties.
@Balencian have you not know. Springs of Koreans. Endless labor of pregnancy of Countries' babies are unbelievably outrageous. Why do you think there was multiple surname Ko? Why do you think there is multiple Surname Kim? Iron King Suro had 10 sons. But only 8 sons had kim, and 2 sons had surname Huh. My friend has surname Huh. China did best to change all Koguryeons surnames but failed. Do you have knowledge to rule a kingdom? Do you have knowledge to prove all of this archeology, and history
Since you asked for evidences, look up this Korean archaeologist's work on ancient Korea, she is probably one of the most educated in the world on Korean archaeology.
@Balencian Also I gotta say. Where do you live? It seems that my computer doesn't understand your link. And believe me. I make computers, and repair them as well. If my network can't understand your link then. You must be living far away.
Moreover, saying China try to change Korean surname is stupid. Korea (Joseon) was a tributary state that survived because they submitted to China unlike other nations such as Jurchen, Goguryeo, Khitans that fought to the last man. Making the conspiracy you imaginated will take considerable amount of energy and effort, I doubt any bright chinese leadership (the dumb one won't even care) will do such a thing, given China's enemy is mostly from the North and West not the East.
@Balencian yeah...and that is an opinion. You have no knowledge of proving that China did not change their surnames. Yeah sure... calling it stupid means that it is fact. Yeah man......I believe you....(Sarcastically). Are we done here? You are ruining a good day of my Saturday weekend. Unlike said....I am historian with life. Unlike you. Constantly arguing about same matters between both histories or archeology don't change anything. I learn that through with other fellow Chinese Politicians.
Communism was supposedly to be a means to counter Imperialism. Unfortunately, like imperialists, they allow one group of people to be in power and violently put down all opposing voices. So while people are not called Slaves in communist countries, many times, their "free status" is in name only because of some egoistical dictatorship. Dictatorship is the cause, and it can happen to capitalistic country like S. Korea, do you remember S.Korea's humble beginning?
@Balencian Have you ever wonder why Koreans make best depressing dramas, and soap operas known to Human Kind? Because we went through soo much depression with neighboring countries. They understand each other to death, and just happens to be convinced by two leaders. The way of conquering, and establishing country means to understand it's people. And exactly no...you can explain me about S.Korea's humble beginning.
@Balencian also no...I do not believe that capitalistic country like S.Korea would be determined to be communistic. Because we are already exalted with understanding of capitalistic. The country is ruled by three powers. President, Military Ministers, and finally the people. Communism....says that it is ruled by people. But its only ruled by dictators, and if some one tries to run away or attack it. Dies!
Do you honestly think South Korea kicked off as a true democracy? Do you know who are Chun Doo-Hwan and Syngman Rhee.Did you know Kim Tae Jun was abducted by the Korean secret police in Japan when he was a democrat activist? And have you ever wonder why lives in many "supposed democracy" today are worse than those that are communist. Democracy can fostered dictatorship as well.
@Balencian What can you propose of me to believe then? Communist, Democracy, and imperialism is people's relevance of motivation. You can make up a silly new name. But it won't due good unless you find followers. But to find followers, you must defeat all of these systems, and government. Do not speak of changing unless you are prepared. I do not get your mission of what you are telling me here.
Personally, I consider myself as quite an extremist against communism. I do not believe its ideals will ever work in human society and that pursuing it without this understanding will certainly led to one party rule, hence, dictatorship like the past. Yet, it also worries me many "supposed" democrat/capitalistic advocate had no idea that democracy is not perfect and that is is a lesser evil, unless you understand that I doubt one can call themselves a supporter of democracy.
@Balencian then plz tell me....what government you believe in? If you are true believer, then you would consider no system; but the name of God is in the power of all human race. I am Christian, and I believe that is a paradise. But there is too many problems between religions, and systems. Tell what do you consider the true system and government?
A good government will find a balance between right and left policies and a balance between government rule and personal freedom. many who feared communism do not understand completely disregard of communist policy led straight to Facisim; a system probably even worser than communism.
Btw, I have no interest in starting a world revolution, I simply procrastinating on youtube and is irritated at some idiots of every side across the youtube universe.
@saphiredewdrop Finally look at this way. You are arguing to me about your opinions too. The whole freedom ruined the balance of the world. The whole science is ridiculous to my religion (Christian). If there was true freedom I would acknowledge it. Your way of freedom is too headache for me. Yes, I am one ugly tempered human being. But that don't give you right to judge it. If you judge, you are one of the worst ones in the world. Where poor, and weak ones suffer. You are like bully.
@Xyeho i'm not arguing my opinions. I am stating that what you said was not right and ugly. I have said things and people disagree and I let them and move on. I suppose you can not handle being called out on your words. And you are bringing in factors into the conversation that really have nothing to with what we are talking about. It's simple, you called someone ugly, and i said what you said was ugly. you should move on.
@saphiredewdrop Also don't you think I already know that? I am 6 years in experience with youtube. I got into politics 3 years ago. But my opinions is just natural human being opinion. Obviously you are more of straight forward person. Also Sorry If I mistaken you as Chinese. But what I am defending here is that. It is not ugly opinion. People say these things. Even in past you probably said it too. Don't lie everybody do it. Especially straightforward person like you.
@saphiredewdrop Finally if you are sucha player. You call yourself Mannerful person? Or should I say Mature? Have you even realize one relationship is good enough? My gf and I have been on it for 7 years! From Childhood! And you dare to teach me about relationship? -_-;; Also I was raised properly. Its you that is unmannerful of you to be judging people that way. My family hold 2 great family clan in blood. They teach me discipline. Never back down on your opinions. Always be free of your ideas
why are you trying to talk yourself up about, how long you are in youtube, politics, your relationship? Those things I really do not care about because my opinion stands of you that you are arude person. and if you were so smart you would realize there are people who are/have been in abusive and/or bad relationships for years. So, saying your years of a relationship means nothing. I don't know your relationship to judge it, and so I won't judge it. I am judging your ugly words.
@saphiredewdrop Then I shall judge your words. You call yourself mannerful but apparently you are not. There was a better way for a person to make an repliment that both person can be satisfied. Even I figure that out. -_-;; Too late now.
@saphiredewdrop also you are arguing with Politician and Historian Trained Student. Even if I lack on my social skills. I am just saying my opinion. Also I believe you got my first comment wrong. I said Koreans have double eyelids. Not Chinese. (Sighs..) If you going to start arguing with me. This is going to be long battle. First other one now you. When is Chineses going to let Koreans have their breath?
i'm not chinese. i'm not sure where you formed this idea. my bf is chinese, i never said i am chinese. and if you lack in social skills you should try harder to better yourself in this life.
and politics and history have nothing to do with this conversation.
I agree with this people as Chinese even I am Korean. Because I could see their eyes as sharper than Koreans. Do not say because of double eye lid. Some people are genetically born like that like my father. -_-;;
Seriously all these race ethnicity debates are retarded, There are 56 different kinds of ethnicities in China, 1 of them is Korean( so what? ). If anyone insults Chinese, that person is insulting 56 ethnicities. If you are Korean and insulting Chinese, keep in mind that you are also insulting Koreans at the same time.
Not only that, but the majority of those 56 ethnicities are also closely related to each other, including the korean ethnicity as well as with Japanese.
@stiffeg Remember Europe united despite their differenses, East Asia should too, keep in mind, we are still in the Sino/confuciansphere. I love the Sino/confuciansphere/east asia!
@stiffeg Isn't Sinosphere the system where all non-Han peoples are uncivilized barbarians, who must all be absorbed in one Central State, ruled by the Han?
@scarybozo I suggest you read about it a little. It's a cultural Sphere that binds the Chinese cultures with Vietnamese, Japanese and Korean culture, to a lesser extent parts of Mongolia and Thailand.
@scarybozo@scarybozo I suggest you read about it a little. It's a cultural Sphere that binds the Chinese cultures with Vietnamese, Japanese and Korean culture, to a lesser extent parts of Mongolia and Thailand.
What you are talking about is sinocentrism NOT the sinosphere
Btw, only highly attractive ones are these from ethnic minorities in China. Han Chinese girls are shamefully fugly. That GookFoodExpress is island chinese.
Koreans are actually cambodians who managed to migrate to that north east asian peninsula. Through the tides of history these proto cambodians were repeatedly conquered, occupied, and enslaved by Japan, Manchu, and Chinese. This spawned a people that have an inclination towards arrogant behavior, with minimal substance. Koreans also don't have the capability to stand alone when there's a crises situation and need to rely on other countries to mediate their own violence prone behaviors.
im dying of laughter because you chinese fanatics are so pathetic. all you guys do is use stereotypes and racism to make your point. you honestly make normal chinese people look bad. paaaathetic. but you know what they say, if they hate you, its because they envy you. no wonder you guys hate koreans and japanese.
@86goryeoguk who said we hate koreans,do you see the korean girl in the vedio.?koreans are our brothers and sisters.i cannot hate koreans because I have problem telling koreans from us.
@240kankan while i wont generalize there are ALOT of chinese users on youtube who hate koreans. i dont hate chinese people but they seem to hate my people
I see no point why chinese chinks insult korean/japnese. Seriously got to fuk off. I mean chinese is the ugliest out of the 3 countries and causese one of the most problems in the world. Chinese people are poor but you guys think you can make fun of koreans/japanese? U chinks disgust me, 1.3-6 bill people...S.K is only 40 mill and japan is sumwhere in 100mill. Im really disgusted by how jealous u chinese can be.
Why are u guys insulting Koreans? In defence, the ugly people are chinese. U guys got tht flat fatass nose and real slit eyes. All the Chinese I see in Vancouver are fkin ugly. Don't make fun of Koreans when u chinks aren't even pretty.
Koreans don't own Manchuria, Manchuria hosts many ethnics there including Donghu , Sushen, Puyeo-Yeamak these three main groups. These people may be natives to the land or came from East or North China or South/East Siberia.
These tribes were not come from the Korean Peninsula but rather another way round they migrate to it in the past.
Koeans do not own Manchuria. Only part of their ancestry came from Manchuria.
@Themeankitty34 This son of bitch only know plastic surgery in Korea. yeah! I know that facts. but....why do a lot of chink bitches and doctors come to plastic surgery in Seoul korea. to change fuckin' face or to learn medical technology? about 70,000 of chink patients. from Jan. to april 2010 !!!
you have medical technology,that is a joke,it is only plastic surgery, and the plastic surgery makes your women even more ugly and like everyone is given brith from the same mother,your fuck technology
@Apple1984ify you know why ?because after your fucking plastic surgery ,eveyone has the similar face,look at your movie and TV stars, they look all similarly, i really want to throw up,that's why i never watch your fucking movie.
get back to your gook videos. Gooks are shameless jealous scum of asia continent. Go back to your operating room for more plastic surgeries to fix your super fugly gook faces.
Natural Korean skin ranges from a pale pink to tan, plus variations depending on how much time one spends indoors/outdoors. Sunscreen and skin lightening creams are common amongst women, but much of the fair skin that you see in celebrities is achieved by good make-up and lighting.
Actual bleaching of the skin is more common in Southeast Asia than Korea.
But if you want to see a natural Korean, look at a healthy North Korean, not South Korean celebrities with plastic surgery.
Koreans never occupied Manchuria,Manchuria was the homeland of Tungusic peoples throughout the history though the southwestern part was ruled by han chinese and southeastern part by gogurians
their face not surprise me..they all look the same lol i even can't differenciate who is han and who is hui...they all has typical mongol face,slant eyes,small and flat nose..
Their ancesters of the Korean Chinese came to China to escape from famine, political upheavals and Japanese rule. China provided them a life buoy.they were not forced.
The Koraens in China are happy to be called Korean Chinese as they sided CCP against KMT taking China. The young Korean Chinese talked in Mandarin rather than Korean among themselves.
That is no different from the US as youngs converse in American but may be Chinese or Korean back home with their parents. 95% plus of these people are not thinking of any independence.They don't like the hypocricy of the South Koreans.
The Manchus chose to become Chinese , in early Qing dynasty the Manchus Emperors talked about Hua (Han)-Yi(non-Han) are in one family under heaven (Tiansha). In late Qing when confronting the Western whites barbarians (The European imperial invasions) the Manchus (Manchurians) regarded themselves as Chinese. The late last emperor of Qing Puyi confessed that he was a Chinese.
Mongols were not forced to be called Chinese but their ancester the Kublai Khan chose to be called a Chinese Emperor of Yuan dynasty. After collapse of Mongol Yuan, many Mongols left behind in China and chose to stay. Mongolians are spread over China in many areas even far South in Yunnan.Many current famous Chinese celebrities in Beijing are of Mongol descent.
Anybody born inside the border of PRC can be called China national. They can be called Manchurian Chinese, Tibaten Chinese, Mongolian Chinese , Korean Chinese. Their identities are not forced ; their ethnic identities are still recognised. The same applied to anybody born in U.S. is a citizen of the United Sates of America who could be an Asian American, native American, Latino American, Korean American or Chinese American.
This person has no choice to be not called an American.
Some northern Chinese minorities are of Tungusic and Altaic origin, but since they live within the border of PRC and have assumed the Chinese nationality, they are legitimately Chinese, of course they may not associate with other remote Chinese minorities or the Han, but they do recognize the consanguinity of the entire native population of PRC. There is nothing wrong in promoting unity without being seditious and xenophobic.
The term would be "Forced" to be called Chinese. To this day, Mongolia, Turk, Korean and Tibetians ask for independance and their land back which was once theirs. Sorry mate, i really don'nt understand communist logic, it makes no sense. Brainwashing and oppresions don't work. Culture is stronger than anything. Unity is here in the USA where people have freedom.
I respect your opinions. Provincial independence is inconceivable for PRC which has a strong oligarchic government and is single-minded in its concern for territorial integrity and political projections, it's not a communist logic, but a geopolitical one, it applies to USA as well. Lincoln didn't countenance the secession of the Confederacy and it resulted in civil war, notwithstanding the US is a democracy. Different cultures can coexist in a nation, and we are all "brainwashed" to some extent
The Confederates did not share different culture, only different political views. They shared the same culture, "Johnny Apple Seed, Tom Sawyer, George Washington, etc." It is totally different from China. US did not date back to any different roots, rather, it was founded by the British and migrated through freedom. No on oppressed the immigrants to stay, they chose to stay. Uyghurs, Tibetians and Mongols were conquered. The same logic does not apply. US withdrew from Puerto Rico and Phillipines
I was emphasizing the firm policy of any nation to uphold its territorial integrity and political projections, regardless of cultural dissimilarities within its border. According to your inference, European descendants in USA should pack their bags and move back to Europe, since Native Americans were the primordial owners of the land, but were vanquished by imperialistic European colonists. The US-Philippines and USSR issues are too complicated and tedious to discuss here.
I was pointing out to superpowers role in modern times. In the past, there isn't a country that hasn't commited outrageous crimes. Education was low, with no appreciation towards anthropology. I'm guessing you are implying China's mentality is as good as when Brits first colonized America. This is 2009, not 1700's. Japan started a devastating war, killed many Chinese and Korean. I'm sure most Asian countries want US millitary to supervise them, hell i still do.
Also, Russia withdrew from East Europe, thus, Poland, Slavic countries, etc. gained their independance. Many modern civilized countries (superpowers) are releasing their method of oppression. Germany for example, though they started the WWII, had US and Russian troops withdrawn from them. They do not belong to anyone but Germans themselves. Japan is partially occupied, but enjoys their own culture and independance from the US. Don't you agree?
Germany was a well established Reich before WW2, of course it belongs to the Germans. Today, Japan is partially "occupied" by US military personnel prescribed by a treaty of mutual interests. Are Japanese enjoying themselves? I don't know, especially when Japan has one of the world's highest suicide rates.
I showed u great examples of why US respected Phillipines decision & Puerto Ricos. Puerto Rico is independant, but granted citizenship of the US, exactly how they demanded it. Hawaii joined in open arms without resistance. Korea wants US millitary to stay to supervise China and North Korea, but still enjoys independance. This is modern diplomacy, not the colonial period. Your same logic with China does not make sense. Different cultures in China are asking for independance answered in oppression
Most people dont even know what Han Chinese is. They just know Chinese.
Lordofthenipplerings 22 hours ago
@2:28. Cute. Her dress and braided hair reminds me of Swiss woman and fashion a bit. This girl is hot.
StudLife28 1 month ago in playlist Favorite videos
The music chorus in Mien means they want my baby. Wild huh?
StudLife28 1 month ago in playlist Favorite videos
Most of the foreigners only know the Han Chinese but know nothing or just a little about the other ethnics, so this video is helpful in giving them a broader perspective about China. Such diversity just shows the delicacy and greatness of China as a modern, strong, united country and nation!
I just don't get it why some should comment negatively here on this beautiful video :) what's wrong with their sights??? :D
kelana67 2 months ago
Excellent! Thanks a lot for sharing!
btw CFENSI, a blog which focuses on Chinese entertainment news did mention the works of Chen Haiwen in his great efforts, traveled across China for one year to take the pictures of the 56 ethnics of the People's Republic of China "56 Family Portraits of 56 Chinese Ethnics"
kelana67 2 months ago
Sinocentrism is Asia. Same way Islam is the Middle East. Almost every ethnic group in Asia has become part of China. Dont need philosophy or state media. Its just a historical fact. There is nothing wrong with it. China is a large country with a myriad of different Mongoloids.
Lordofthenipplerings 2 months ago
@dragondescent
Well guess that would suit your insulated mind set. Just hang around the People's Republic of China and have your comfortable, self rightous and Sino- supremacist philosophy further reinforced by the biased state controlled media that is all you will ever know. Just bath yourself in ignorance and insulation like so many Chinese ultra nationalists. I know reality through assertion. Tell yourself the same convenient lie enough times and you might just believe it.
whytedog 3 months ago
@dragondescent
Maybe you should go to Vietnam with that self rightous and supremacist attitude of yours and see how you go.
whytedog 3 months ago
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@dragondescent Do you even know why China did not started War? Because THEY CAN"T!! WHY? BECAUSE IF THEY DO THAT, China get rape really badly from US and with his allies! Do you know China started to threath Southern Asia with Military?? Do you know how many times that China minding on other small ethinics with their force?? Do you know how human rights in China corrupted?? Do you even know how the war started from US? You really do need to focuse on reality and see the truth.
veracuiz 3 months ago
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Chinese holocost against minor can effect on neighbroing countries. People don't know when China start to take over more of other terratory. So Korea and Japan have to cooperate also with Asia to stop China's growth.
veracuiz 3 months ago
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@dragondescent Why you not want me to disrupting China since you Chinese are disrupting other minor ethnics? is it like winner against minor ethinics which is you guys want to be keep being a winner against poor minor and prevent outsider put attention on those poor minority ethincs?? So that you guys can still keeping those minor ethnics's land culture??? We are neighbor. US, Wester, Asia should concern about this problem deeply. Only key is that China get crush and China will be crushed sure.
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@dragondescent How is this have to do with my own life?? I'm telling the fact. Han Chiense believe that minor ehtnics are admitting that they are Chinese. But most of them are not. Every day, Tibetans, Uguru protest. Just like Korean independent worrior during Japanese era. This protest cycle during period and there are no way for China to stop this protest cycle. Oh, and even inner Mongolians started to think about fighting against China.
veracuiz 3 months ago
If your wife is so beautiful ,you can be unsatisfied after three days. If your wife is not so beautiful,you can be satisfied after three days.
Amanfromahappyland 6 months ago
I garantee that Freedom protests will spread all over the China and China will get crush back to good old day.
veracuiz 7 months ago
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Stop disturbing other ethnics you Chinese. Ethnics want to be free from China. Free Southern Mongolia!!!!!!! US should send their army to China to Crush and free all other hostile ethinics!!!!!!!
veracuiz 7 months ago
@veracuiz US should send their army to China, why don't they. Next time if you want to impress or catch people's attention, present your idea with fact, who give f### about your opinion. US the superpower was defeated by a bunch of viet namese geeks, that was the fact Jack!!!!!
sdapr2610 6 months ago
I bet all these ethnicgroups wanna free from china
ben08820 9 months ago
@ben08820 not those korean refugees
Monkeyshex 9 months ago
@ben08820 go ask, see if could win anything at all.
paliwoo 9 months ago
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biklikbala 9 months ago
Okay all of them are fugly except the girl in 3:02. Thats why I watched this video in the first place. Ahahahahah. Also don't say Koreans look good because of double eye surgery. Some are actually genetics. My dad tend to have it for some reason and my grandfather too. Koreans saw this as a way to make unsatified Koreans to beauty. We can't just invent double eye lid unless we already experienced it.
Xyeho 11 months ago
@Xyeho pathetic pig faced korean troll,this not beauty contest,btw look at yourself in the mirror,you look like a typical brownish piggy korean kimchi monster.Talking about double eyelids?I know korea has much much lower natural double eye lid rate than china especially southern china and northwestern china
GodsCommand 11 months ago
@GodsCommand Umm yeah sure.... you forgot the Americans. Some white people tends to have double eye lids genetically.
Xyeho 11 months ago
@Xyeho almost all whites have doubles eyelids,africans and southeastasians have it too,itz common sense
GodsCommand 11 months ago
@GodsCommand so you know. But some Chinese people tend to believe Koreans have double eyelids.
Xyeho 11 months ago
@Xyeho I think you should have experience in usa? most of the chinese descendants there were from canton and fujian of southern china where the double eyelid rate is pretty high
GodsCommand 11 months ago
@GodsCommand I guess so. But you got proof showing that they are canton and fujians? Besides if they say they are chinese they are chinese.
Xyeho 11 months ago
@Xyeho cantonese and fujianese are han chinese subgroup too itz just that chinese territory is too large compared to korea or japan so they have much higher physical diversity,just like europeans from germany generally look significantly different from those from Italy
GodsCommand 11 months ago
@GodsCommand well yeah I guess so. They are all both Roman Empire Bloodlines. Anyways if this wasn't a models of chinese girls. Whats the point of it? Telling this is all chinese?
Xyeho 11 months ago
@Xyeho
That is rude to call people ugly. Perhaps you were not brought up with manners. Also, double eyelid does not equal beaut. My boyfriend is very handsome and does not have the double eyelid. I prefer it this way.
saphiredewdrop 10 months ago
@saphiredewdrop w8 w8 w8? What did I do again? Chinese call Koreans Ugly. So Koreans call Chinese ugly. Get the facts right -_-;; Also your bf is a girl? I said the girls on that video was ugly. And this was my opinion. You might have right to argue. But it doesn't give me ideas to change it. I am male myself. You should know how men's express their feelings. There is no manners in it. I was just telling my opinion. Yeah now plz this comment is 2 weeks old. Don't comment me.
Xyeho 10 months ago
@Xyeho
people calling people ugly come from uneducated, ignorant, individuals. do not clump a whole ethnic group into one. and, there are men who do have manners in the way they speak. if you have nothing nice to say, then keep your mouth shut. the only ugly thing on this page are your ugly words about your fellow human beings. before calling others ugly, look at yourself in the mirror. re examine yourself, inside and out.
saphiredewdrop 10 months ago
@saphiredewdrop apparently your chinese yourself -_-;; Sigh....all this biased shits! What is a mannerful way to say to girls? That they don't look well? Is that sound good for you? Nobody is perfect. You are not perfect. I am not perfect. The way you say I am ugly. There is no point of argueing. Also the one who comment me is you. So you keep your mouth shut. The only things that make youtube said. Is people with biased opinions. Like me, you, and others. -_-;;
Xyeho 10 months ago
@Xyeho
i'm not Chinese, but i have dated korean and chinese guys. both can have double eyelids and both can be without.
and just because you have an ugly opinion does not mean you need to share. and my opinion of you is, you were not raised properly and you have no manners. you can argue if you like, but if you spew your opinions just realize some people may go against you.
saphiredewdrop 10 months ago
@saphiredewdrop Oh okay. But look at our neighbors comments. Plastic Surgery and all Cosmetic Surgery about Korea. This gives us the right to make our opinions about Chinese. You should know better to not get in a fight that you don't even understand. Also Ugly Opinion? Is that even a logical answer? In my Info. I said either its good or bad opinion. I never go back on my words. What r you in my site for then? Check a guy out?
Xyeho 10 months ago
@Xyeho
You are trying so hard to defend your ugly opinions, saying it is human nature. Well, as human nature I am allowed to have my opinion of you. Your attitude and manners are ugly. This is my opinion of you and your words and they will not change. Your opinions probably will not change either. But in the meantime, this is my definition of you.
saphiredewdrop 10 months ago
@saphiredewdrop Lol yeah sure. you sure are full of yourself. I think you are ugly too. In many ways. First you talk like you dominate the world. Second, if you were really mature. You would stay out of it. Third. I am only 16 -_-;; and you still argue with him; other than conversing it out. You have now taught me that, you are much same.
Xyeho 10 months ago
@Xyeho
I can't be full of myself if I'm not judging ones looks and calling them ugly. And I didn't know you are 16. I think at 16 you should be wise enough to not call others ugly. If you are Christian then you should know not to say things like you did. I'm Christian as well and I was taught to not judge someone on their outer appearance. You can leave it at that. But you want to fight those who do not share your view.
saphiredewdrop 10 months ago
@saphiredewdrop Yeah so leave it at this way. You are Christian and I am Christian. But we argue in part of opinions. Even I am Christian I am not fully pledged. But I did faced miracles of God. Which makes me Christian. But yes most asian parents say Asians should be wiser at their high school level. But one thing you are not getting from is that. I am very politically active person also. I am Nationalist, Republican. Even my words are ugly. Its just an opinion.
Xyeho 10 months ago
@saphiredewdrop Plus, you should know by now that. I am very impatient person with huge temper. Out of my political views. I am also fighter. In mixed martial art I tell you that. So I don't recommend you to ignite my temper. Besides, you can't just say I like all those Chinese girls. Everybody has different types.
Xyeho 10 months ago
@Xyeho you being and impatient person is not my problem. that is something you as a person must deal with. and you are right, everyone has different tastes. i see people i do not find attractive, however, i do not say it out loud. whose place is it to tell someone they are ugly? even if i say someone is beautiful and another person disagrees, i can not get angry because that is their opinion.
saphiredewdrop 10 months ago
@saphiredewdrop you did got angry when I said it -_-;; Saying out loud? They don't even know that I even said this. They probably don't have internet connections. Because Traditional Chinese Religions they are in is strictly forbidden for to use internet. They believe its evil source of destruction. -_-;;
Xyeho 10 months ago
@Xyeho i'm not angry...pretty nonchalant about the whole conversation.
saphiredewdrop 10 months ago
@saphiredewdrop eh...okay.
Xyeho 10 months ago
@Xyeho
Both the CCP (Chinese communist party) and CPK (Communist party of Korea) are simply manifestation of almost everything stupid existing in the Far Eastern Culture. Like all the stupidity they are doing is nothing new, almost every inept and cynical ruler ever since the Qin Dynasty and Gojoseon do the same thing. Moreover, the leaders seems to have a gigantic ego of showing off with luxuries and being totally indifferent of the poverty of the greater populations.
Balencian 9 months ago
@Balencian hmmm...sorry I kinda disagree with your opinion. In God's Nature. Human have different oppression, and plans. Gojoseon was country formed out of 3 main tribes. Awhile Qin Dynasty was in whole. So Gojoseon's Kings did know best to understand its people. Also how can you compare imperialism to communism? Sure they are one ruler till dead. But Imperialism let peasants, and nobles to move around. Unlike Communism, they trap you like dogs.
Xyeho 9 months ago
@Xyeho
Even when I said Gojoseon, I hope you know from archaeological evidences presented in the "Korean Journal" there are many doubts whether such a "state" even existed or it is just some propaganda made up by Silla after their unification. For instance, Goguryeo came from the North not the Korean Peninsula and after Silla captured their terrorities, their remnants continue to resist independently in the North. It is probable the 3 kingdoms are never the same race to begin with.
Balencian 9 months ago
@Balencian Okay here is the how Korea became Korea. History back to start of Korea started with two country of ethnicity. By Gojoseon, and Jin. Silla is part of Jin. Koguryo is part of Koguryo. What make this truth about Korea is that. I am and some Koreans are related to both part of the kingdoms. As you know my grandma's surname is Ko. Her ancestors stated a journal of escaping Koguryo during Silla Tang alliance attack. During three kingdoms. Both Jin, and Gojoseon were already mixed.
Xyeho 9 months ago
@Xyeho
@Xyeho
The last name Ko (高) is also very common in China as far back as in the Han Dynasty, how are you sure your ancestors really originated from Korea?Everything you stated is simply come from what you want to believe in and things you heard people say. As far as I am concern. almost all states started off as chiefdom then developed into state through time or influence by others, archaeological record showed all 3 Korean kingdoms were influenced by Han China at the start.
Balencian 9 months ago
@Balencian ahahahha....you didn't forget that when Koguryo was conquered by Tang. The 200,000 citizens were sent to being hostage right? The what you said about lots of Ko surnames being found in Common China means. Their ancestors was once mighty Koguryo that became peasants, nobles, and to what we call heroes. Ahhaha you almost trick me there. Also not all Korean kingdoms were influenced by China. They started of by influencing themselves till some reliable things came in. -Continued-
Xyeho 9 months ago
@Xyeho
Before you continue, do you know "Balhae", successor of Goguryo that remain independent.
And also unlike most states, Tang was quite metropolitan, while many Goguryoens became slaves, many were also rewarded joining the Tang. For example, General Gao Xianzhi.
Balencian 9 months ago
@Balencian ahhaa.. so are you going to admit that Koguryo is Korean people? Or you going to make this conversation difficult? Chinese changed Koguryeons surnames to bring down the Koguryo history. Also Balhae was fallen by Khitans. Not China. Of course they will be independent with other countries. They are successors of Koguryo. Which means they are only Koguryo from beginning with till Koryo came in. I might have mere IQ of 150 but don't try to trick me here.
Xyeho 9 months ago
@Xyeho
General Gao Shun (高順) of han Dynasty and Emperor Gao Heng (高恆) of Qi lived and was recorded before the time of Goguryo; hence, saying Chinese changed Koguyeons' surname is simply a bullcrap.And thanks for countering your own argument that goguryeo was enslaved by Tang by stating Balhae survived.
Lol...I am not even going to boost about my IQ level virtually online; like I said any personal character and attributes are bullshit, go by facts.
Balencian 9 months ago
@Balencian so what are you Chinese. You sure to protecting Chinese's History, and Problems. Ahahahaha! Also FYI....my IQ was said on my brain structure, not by online bullcrap. You are ridiculously dumb without knowing your opponent. You cannot judge.
Xyeho 9 months ago
@Xyeho
Before talking about IQ and Brain structure, do you know which "component" of the brain responsible for your cognitive thinking? I do not know you in person, so I do not undersndard why I have to believe you saying you are IQ 150 from your online bullcrap. Personally from experience, the true dumb-asses are the one that never know they are dumb asses. And I am glad I do know Koreans in real life, or else seeing people like you, I will get the wrong feeling about their national character
Balencian 9 months ago
@Balencian Are you starting to stereotype? Wow this is why Chinese are ignorant. Wow De Ja Vu. When are you Chinese are going to leave Koreans alone? Are u serious? If you must know...I am very high tempered, and blood pressured. The traits are being dissolved and remade. You can follow your mother's Traits or your Father's trait. I gain my temper from my dad. If I were to luckily get my grandfather's trait. Then I would give you the best answer. Also I find my best answers from my grandpa.
Xyeho 9 months ago
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@Xyeho
"When are you Chinese are going to leave Koreans alone?"
-Just for misc, you are in a video about China not Korea, I did not cross to the Koran border to stir up fight. Anyways, bye now. I do not think I can win at internet dicussion against someone who claimed themselves to be the descendent of the Silla Royal house (a nation that existed over 1000 years) simply because their grandfather said so.
Balencian 9 months ago
@Balencian Also if you have not look into what religions was used for. Buddhism was used in Korea to bring Monarchs that past royal ancestors lost. Like Family conflicts, or in Economical, Political, and Financial problems. Most China dynasty was influenced by Korean's Smiths. The most of the reason why most Korean Swords, and China's swords being common was because of trade with Gaya, Silla, and Paekche. Also Paekche is blood brothers to Koguryo, and Japan. Unless you can explain me differently
Xyeho 9 months ago
@Xyeho
You think a small state like Gaya can support the whole China? During the Han-Xiongnu wars, China smithery is one of the most desired items for a reason, Gaya was not even a significant minor power at this point.
Where do you think Buddhism came from? Jin China, an ally of Baekje.
Baekje and Goguryo was not blood brothers, they are mortal enemies and was constantly at war with one another. On the otherhand, Baekje and Yamato Japan shared many bonds and their kings prob intermarry.
Balencian 9 months ago
@Balencian then prove why Koguryo and Paekche are not blood brothers. Tell me how Paekche was established. According to Samguksagi, Paekche was established due to So Seo No, wife of Jumong abandoned their princes for his blood son Yuri. Are you going to make rumors out of Samguksagi as well?
Xyeho 9 months ago
@Xyeho
Samguk Sagi by Kim Busiki is a collection of ethnocentric tales that he gathered which may have historical truths but also reflective of his personal bias.
Even Sima Qian had his bias when writing Shiji but he is aware of this bias and noted it. However those who followed him have no qualms about the possibility of Bias, this is why History in Asia became such a big mess at the end.
Balencian 9 months ago
@Balencian Hahaha yeah....so the ones that believe in these stuffs must really came down from the History. If you know. Most believers are descended down from one and only their ancestors. If you are really smart. I would recommend you challenging my grandfather. He knows about history more than me. And he say my ancestor was last king of Silla. King Gyeongsun of Silla! And okay...to be sure. I am only arguing about in this video was about who is the prettiest. Not Korean or Chinese history.
Xyeho 9 months ago
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@Xyeho
"He knows about history more than me. And he say my ancestor was last king of Silla. King Gyeongsun of Silla!"
You know what I give up lol. You win, prince of Silla.
Balencian 9 months ago
@Xyeho
And to be fair, there are little evidences of a "unified State of Xia, Shang, Zhou" before the warring states and is unificator Qin. People at those time think differently from us, and the kings are no different. You honestly think imperialists think peasants/ slaves move around? Consider so many books about "this place" and "this place" are only for the aristocracy.
Balencian 9 months ago
@Balencian according to my fellow Chinese friend. He said that Chinese government with monarch was very complex state in order. Why do you think Chinese dynasties never overcome 500 years in present? Because there kings were very unorganized in balancing out its people. Do not compare with every kings of every countries, and nation. That is extremist, nationalist talk.
Xyeho 9 months ago
@Xyeho
For a land as vast as China, clearly, their government and monarch is very complex and advanced. Whydo you think Silla and Yamato (Japan) sent people to learn from Tang and copy their government system back to their homeland? Archaeological evidences support this and btw, many of what I said is taught to me by someone actually trained in Korean archaeology. Every country have their own version nationalistic bullcrap of origin but reality is mostly quite humble to begin with.
Balencian 9 months ago
@Balencian by you saying of someone taught in Korean archaeology. Most of the Korean histories were burned off by neighboring China, and Japan. We have no right to prove our fallen histories because of it. Most of your opinions goes down to drain. During fallen of Paekche...my ancestral fore farthers went down to Cheju Island. Thats why most people of Japan, and Chinese say that we are from that small island, and controvert that Koguryo was Manchu's land, and not Korea.
Xyeho 9 months ago
@Xyeho
You cannot burn of what are not excavated; archaeology is not history books, you can't burn something not found yet, and many of the evidences I said are dug up by South Korean archaeologists in the post colonial era.
Btw, so you have actual family history record dated over 1000 years ago? I would not trust any folklore pass on one generation to another, if everyone goes by your standard, everyone would have claimed their ancestors are national heroes and royalties.
Balencian 9 months ago
@Balencian have you not know. Springs of Koreans. Endless labor of pregnancy of Countries' babies are unbelievably outrageous. Why do you think there was multiple surname Ko? Why do you think there is multiple Surname Kim? Iron King Suro had 10 sons. But only 8 sons had kim, and 2 sons had surname Huh. My friend has surname Huh. China did best to change all Koguryeons surnames but failed. Do you have knowledge to rule a kingdom? Do you have knowledge to prove all of this archeology, and history
Xyeho 9 months ago
@Xyeho
Since you asked for evidences, look up this Korean archaeologist's work on ancient Korea, she is probably one of the most educated in the world on Korean archaeology.
eastasian.ucsb.edu/faculty/pai.htm
Balencian 9 months ago
@Balencian Also FYI...My grandpa is educated at Zhejinag University and Kyushu University. That is the man I should be listening to...
Xyeho 9 months ago
@Balencian Also I gotta say. Where do you live? It seems that my computer doesn't understand your link. And believe me. I make computers, and repair them as well. If my network can't understand your link then. You must be living far away.
Xyeho 9 months ago
@Xyeho
Moreover, saying China try to change Korean surname is stupid. Korea (Joseon) was a tributary state that survived because they submitted to China unlike other nations such as Jurchen, Goguryeo, Khitans that fought to the last man. Making the conspiracy you imaginated will take considerable amount of energy and effort, I doubt any bright chinese leadership (the dumb one won't even care) will do such a thing, given China's enemy is mostly from the North and West not the East.
Balencian 9 months ago
@Balencian yeah...and that is an opinion. You have no knowledge of proving that China did not change their surnames. Yeah sure... calling it stupid means that it is fact. Yeah man......I believe you....(Sarcastically). Are we done here? You are ruining a good day of my Saturday weekend. Unlike said....I am historian with life. Unlike you. Constantly arguing about same matters between both histories or archeology don't change anything. I learn that through with other fellow Chinese Politicians.
Xyeho 9 months ago
@Xyeho
Communism was supposedly to be a means to counter Imperialism. Unfortunately, like imperialists, they allow one group of people to be in power and violently put down all opposing voices. So while people are not called Slaves in communist countries, many times, their "free status" is in name only because of some egoistical dictatorship. Dictatorship is the cause, and it can happen to capitalistic country like S. Korea, do you remember S.Korea's humble beginning?
Balencian 9 months ago
@Balencian Have you ever wonder why Koreans make best depressing dramas, and soap operas known to Human Kind? Because we went through soo much depression with neighboring countries. They understand each other to death, and just happens to be convinced by two leaders. The way of conquering, and establishing country means to understand it's people. And exactly no...you can explain me about S.Korea's humble beginning.
Xyeho 9 months ago
@Balencian also no...I do not believe that capitalistic country like S.Korea would be determined to be communistic. Because we are already exalted with understanding of capitalistic. The country is ruled by three powers. President, Military Ministers, and finally the people. Communism....says that it is ruled by people. But its only ruled by dictators, and if some one tries to run away or attack it. Dies!
Xyeho 9 months ago
@Xyeho
Do you honestly think South Korea kicked off as a true democracy? Do you know who are Chun Doo-Hwan and Syngman Rhee.Did you know Kim Tae Jun was abducted by the Korean secret police in Japan when he was a democrat activist? And have you ever wonder why lives in many "supposed democracy" today are worse than those that are communist. Democracy can fostered dictatorship as well.
Balencian 9 months ago
@Balencian What can you propose of me to believe then? Communist, Democracy, and imperialism is people's relevance of motivation. You can make up a silly new name. But it won't due good unless you find followers. But to find followers, you must defeat all of these systems, and government. Do not speak of changing unless you are prepared. I do not get your mission of what you are telling me here.
Xyeho 9 months ago
@Xyeho
Personally, I consider myself as quite an extremist against communism. I do not believe its ideals will ever work in human society and that pursuing it without this understanding will certainly led to one party rule, hence, dictatorship like the past. Yet, it also worries me many "supposed" democrat/capitalistic advocate had no idea that democracy is not perfect and that is is a lesser evil, unless you understand that I doubt one can call themselves a supporter of democracy.
Balencian 9 months ago
@Balencian then plz tell me....what government you believe in? If you are true believer, then you would consider no system; but the name of God is in the power of all human race. I am Christian, and I believe that is a paradise. But there is too many problems between religions, and systems. Tell what do you consider the true system and government?
Xyeho 9 months ago
@Xyeho
A good government will find a balance between right and left policies and a balance between government rule and personal freedom. many who feared communism do not understand completely disregard of communist policy led straight to Facisim; a system probably even worser than communism.
Btw, I have no interest in starting a world revolution, I simply procrastinating on youtube and is irritated at some idiots of every side across the youtube universe.
Balencian 9 months ago
@saphiredewdrop Finally look at this way. You are arguing to me about your opinions too. The whole freedom ruined the balance of the world. The whole science is ridiculous to my religion (Christian). If there was true freedom I would acknowledge it. Your way of freedom is too headache for me. Yes, I am one ugly tempered human being. But that don't give you right to judge it. If you judge, you are one of the worst ones in the world. Where poor, and weak ones suffer. You are like bully.
Xyeho 10 months ago
@Xyeho i'm not arguing my opinions. I am stating that what you said was not right and ugly. I have said things and people disagree and I let them and move on. I suppose you can not handle being called out on your words. And you are bringing in factors into the conversation that really have nothing to with what we are talking about. It's simple, you called someone ugly, and i said what you said was ugly. you should move on.
saphiredewdrop 10 months ago
@saphiredewdrop Also don't you think I already know that? I am 6 years in experience with youtube. I got into politics 3 years ago. But my opinions is just natural human being opinion. Obviously you are more of straight forward person. Also Sorry If I mistaken you as Chinese. But what I am defending here is that. It is not ugly opinion. People say these things. Even in past you probably said it too. Don't lie everybody do it. Especially straightforward person like you.
Xyeho 10 months ago
@Xyeho
You call people ugly because of their face. I call you ugly because of your words.
saphiredewdrop 10 months ago
@saphiredewdrop Finally if you are sucha player. You call yourself Mannerful person? Or should I say Mature? Have you even realize one relationship is good enough? My gf and I have been on it for 7 years! From Childhood! And you dare to teach me about relationship? -_-;; Also I was raised properly. Its you that is unmannerful of you to be judging people that way. My family hold 2 great family clan in blood. They teach me discipline. Never back down on your opinions. Always be free of your ideas
Xyeho 10 months ago
@Xyeho
why are you trying to talk yourself up about, how long you are in youtube, politics, your relationship? Those things I really do not care about because my opinion stands of you that you are arude person. and if you were so smart you would realize there are people who are/have been in abusive and/or bad relationships for years. So, saying your years of a relationship means nothing. I don't know your relationship to judge it, and so I won't judge it. I am judging your ugly words.
saphiredewdrop 10 months ago
@saphiredewdrop Then I shall judge your words. You call yourself mannerful but apparently you are not. There was a better way for a person to make an repliment that both person can be satisfied. Even I figure that out. -_-;; Too late now.
Xyeho 10 months ago
@saphiredewdrop also you are arguing with Politician and Historian Trained Student. Even if I lack on my social skills. I am just saying my opinion. Also I believe you got my first comment wrong. I said Koreans have double eyelids. Not Chinese. (Sighs..) If you going to start arguing with me. This is going to be long battle. First other one now you. When is Chineses going to let Koreans have their breath?
Xyeho 10 months ago
@Xyeho
i'm not chinese. i'm not sure where you formed this idea. my bf is chinese, i never said i am chinese. and if you lack in social skills you should try harder to better yourself in this life.
and politics and history have nothing to do with this conversation.
saphiredewdrop 10 months ago
I agree with this people as Chinese even I am Korean. Because I could see their eyes as sharper than Koreans. Do not say because of double eye lid. Some people are genetically born like that like my father. -_-;;
Xyeho 1 year ago
People stop with the retardedness. We are all asian and we need to unite.
jkl1234567890 1 year ago 7
@jkl1234567890 by unite.... you mean having sex and making more babies?
youngb1ood 10 months ago
@jkl1234567890
easier said than done, instead of telling people to united, give them reasons to unite.
Balencian 9 months ago
Seriously all these race ethnicity debates are retarded, There are 56 different kinds of ethnicities in China, 1 of them is Korean( so what? ). If anyone insults Chinese, that person is insulting 56 ethnicities. If you are Korean and insulting Chinese, keep in mind that you are also insulting Koreans at the same time.
Not only that, but the majority of those 56 ethnicities are also closely related to each other, including the korean ethnicity as well as with Japanese.
stiffeg 1 year ago
@stiffeg Remember Europe united despite their differenses, East Asia should too, keep in mind, we are still in the Sino/confuciansphere. I love the Sino/confuciansphere/east asia!
stiffeg 1 year ago 2
@stiffeg Isn't Sinosphere the system where all non-Han peoples are uncivilized barbarians, who must all be absorbed in one Central State, ruled by the Han?
scarybozo 1 year ago
@scarybozo I suggest you read about it a little. It's a cultural Sphere that binds the Chinese cultures with Vietnamese, Japanese and Korean culture, to a lesser extent parts of Mongolia and Thailand.
stiffeg 1 year ago
@scarybozo @scarybozo I suggest you read about it a little. It's a cultural Sphere that binds the Chinese cultures with Vietnamese, Japanese and Korean culture, to a lesser extent parts of Mongolia and Thailand.
What you are talking about is sinocentrism NOT the sinosphere
stiffeg 1 year ago
@stiffeg East Asia did unite, more than 2000 years ago. That's why there is a Sino/confucian sphere called China.
stimsWonderland 4 months ago
the asian race! the best looking! haha! sorry!
azura13liss 1 year ago
@azura13liss i am asian, yeah, but i also like italian girl, hpuff :3
JimmyJohanes 1 year ago
wow, 2;32. nice
finestfresh 1 year ago
they look all the same to me they are all chinese..........
GreatCommunistEmpire 1 year ago
3:39 HAN
akisi9053 1 year ago
LOL ALL YOU PEOPLE CALM THE HELL DOWN. ALL ASIANS CAME FROM CHINA SOMEHOW ;D... SHARE THE LOOOOOVE~!!
ICHIGOKAWAIICHAN 1 year ago
so cool!
CrazyNative4 1 year ago
Btw, only highly attractive ones are these from ethnic minorities in China. Han Chinese girls are shamefully fugly. That GookFoodExpress is island chinese.
consoleman09 1 year ago
@Apple1984ify fuck you very much dirty chink. thats it.
kogurean 1 year ago
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Koreans are actually cambodians who managed to migrate to that north east asian peninsula. Through the tides of history these proto cambodians were repeatedly conquered, occupied, and enslaved by Japan, Manchu, and Chinese. This spawned a people that have an inclination towards arrogant behavior, with minimal substance. Koreans also don't have the capability to stand alone when there's a crises situation and need to rely on other countries to mediate their own violence prone behaviors.
TrueAltaic 1 year ago 2
im dying of laughter because you chinese fanatics are so pathetic. all you guys do is use stereotypes and racism to make your point. you honestly make normal chinese people look bad. paaaathetic. but you know what they say, if they hate you, its because they envy you. no wonder you guys hate koreans and japanese.
86goryeoguk 1 year ago
@86goryeoguk who said we hate koreans,do you see the korean girl in the vedio.?koreans are our brothers and sisters.i cannot hate koreans because I have problem telling koreans from us.
240kankan 1 year ago
@240kankan while i wont generalize there are ALOT of chinese users on youtube who hate koreans. i dont hate chinese people but they seem to hate my people
86goryeoguk 1 year ago
@86goryeoguk
its all about you (manybe most or some or few) koreans are stealing our culture heritage and distort the history.
finestfresh 1 year ago
Look at all these weak cultures that got sucked into china, too bad they weren't strong enough to keep their original culture and language.
myschwettyballs 1 year ago
They're so beautiful. Five stars for this video
WuTangtst 1 year ago
Very nice
gothbaby6 1 year ago
I see no point why chinese chinks insult korean/japnese. Seriously got to fuk off. I mean chinese is the ugliest out of the 3 countries and causese one of the most problems in the world. Chinese people are poor but you guys think you can make fun of koreans/japanese? U chinks disgust me, 1.3-6 bill people...S.K is only 40 mill and japan is sumwhere in 100mill. Im really disgusted by how jealous u chinese can be.
shogun257 1 year ago
Why are u guys insulting Koreans? In defence, the ugly people are chinese. U guys got tht flat fatass nose and real slit eyes. All the Chinese I see in Vancouver are fkin ugly. Don't make fun of Koreans when u chinks aren't even pretty.
SaiKCL2 1 year ago
I love how China has an endless mix of beautiful people.
CanadianTuBaoZi 1 year ago
i think the russian chinese u ment are not the chinese but instead the maio peple which are hmong people...
tribesking 1 year ago
what is with all these comments about manchuria? it is what it is and you can't do anything about it.
pext18 1 year ago
Koreans don't own Manchuria, Manchuria hosts many ethnics there including Donghu , Sushen, Puyeo-Yeamak these three main groups. These people may be natives to the land or came from East or North China or South/East Siberia.
These tribes were not come from the Korean Peninsula but rather another way round they migrate to it in the past.
Koeans do not own Manchuria. Only part of their ancestry came from Manchuria.
Thak11 2 years ago 3
Koreans are liars.
Themeankitty34 1 year ago
@Themeankitty34 This son of bitch only know plastic surgery in Korea. yeah! I know that facts. but....why do a lot of chink bitches and doctors come to plastic surgery in Seoul korea. to change fuckin' face or to learn medical technology? about 70,000 of chink patients. from Jan. to april 2010 !!!
kogurean 1 year ago
@kogurean omg,just 70000,
do you know how many fucking korean living china?not mention the tourists.i tell you the number:1500000.
Apple1984ify 1 year ago
@kogurean you stupid geek
you have medical technology,that is a joke,it is only plastic surgery, and the plastic surgery makes your women even more ugly and like everyone is given brith from the same mother,your fuck technology
Apple1984ify 1 year ago
@Apple1984ify you know why ?because after your fucking plastic surgery ,eveyone has the similar face,look at your movie and TV stars, they look all similarly, i really want to throw up,that's why i never watch your fucking movie.
Apple1984ify 1 year ago
the russian chinese ethnic has the sexiest skin
SuperEvolutionX 2 years ago
Always han chinese communist make troubles.
kogurean 2 years ago
get back to your gook videos. Gooks are shameless jealous scum of asia continent. Go back to your operating room for more plastic surgeries to fix your super fugly gook faces.
Themeankitty34 1 year ago
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kogurean 2 years ago
Dam you.
Thak11 2 years ago
@GookFoodExpress
Natural Korean skin ranges from a pale pink to tan, plus variations depending on how much time one spends indoors/outdoors. Sunscreen and skin lightening creams are common amongst women, but much of the fair skin that you see in celebrities is achieved by good make-up and lighting.
Actual bleaching of the skin is more common in Southeast Asia than Korea.
But if you want to see a natural Korean, look at a healthy North Korean, not South Korean celebrities with plastic surgery.
dark14 2 years ago 16
@dark14 like Kim Jong Il?
StanleySweet14 1 year ago
@dark14 yes! when we must feature ethnic beauties the subjects must be common people not "fashioned" ones!
bratkotenka 1 year ago
@dark14 Fuck U you fucking ugky chink!
KimchiPower1 1 year ago
@KimchiPower1 plastic face back off
danceonwind 1 year ago
What will the HAN wear?Han fu?
zhen86 2 years ago
The koreans were originated from southeastAsia and negrotoes
impearless 2 years ago
Shut up you uneducated. They are from Northeast Asia and are staying there for over 5000 years.
assanee31 2 years ago
Koreans never occupied Manchuria,Manchuria was the homeland of Tungusic peoples throughout the history though the southwestern part was ruled by han chinese and southeastern part by gogurians
impearless 2 years ago
最后呻吟, fear our powerful power, haha~
longtengshengshi 2 years ago
their face not surprise me..they all look the same lol i even can't differenciate who is han and who is hui...they all has typical mongol face,slant eyes,small and flat nose..
lagodaxnian 2 years ago
56 ethnic groups are One family.
chemhehe2 2 years ago
1 china
syn1122 2 years ago
Their ancesters of the Korean Chinese came to China to escape from famine, political upheavals and Japanese rule. China provided them a life buoy.they were not forced.
Even tody North Korea refugees come to China.
Thak11 2 years ago
No, Korean speaking Koreans were in Manchuria always.
internationalpirate 2 years ago
The Koraens in China are happy to be called Korean Chinese as they sided CCP against KMT taking China. The young Korean Chinese talked in Mandarin rather than Korean among themselves.
That is no different from the US as youngs converse in American but may be Chinese or Korean back home with their parents. 95% plus of these people are not thinking of any independence.They don't like the hypocricy of the South Koreans.
Thak11 2 years ago
The Manchus chose to become Chinese , in early Qing dynasty the Manchus Emperors talked about Hua (Han)-Yi(non-Han) are in one family under heaven (Tiansha). In late Qing when confronting the Western whites barbarians (The European imperial invasions) the Manchus (Manchurians) regarded themselves as Chinese. The late last emperor of Qing Puyi confessed that he was a Chinese.
Thak11 2 years ago
Interestingly, the Zhuang minority was classified as Han Chinese by the Manchus. Then, as Han Chinese by the KMT.
When Mao, they said the Zhuang were Zhuang. Strange.
I'm Zhuang. This is how I know. Apparently, we were Han Chinese and now we're not. It's strange about Chinese history.
icouldcareless50 2 years ago
strange isn't it? because Han chinese is already mixed ethnicity itself.
consoleman09 2 years ago
Mongols were not forced to be called Chinese but their ancester the Kublai Khan chose to be called a Chinese Emperor of Yuan dynasty. After collapse of Mongol Yuan, many Mongols left behind in China and chose to stay. Mongolians are spread over China in many areas even far South in Yunnan.Many current famous Chinese celebrities in Beijing are of Mongol descent.
Thak11 2 years ago
Anybody born inside the border of PRC can be called China national. They can be called Manchurian Chinese, Tibaten Chinese, Mongolian Chinese , Korean Chinese. Their identities are not forced ; their ethnic identities are still recognised. The same applied to anybody born in U.S. is a citizen of the United Sates of America who could be an Asian American, native American, Latino American, Korean American or Chinese American.
This person has no choice to be not called an American.
Thak11 2 years ago
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The pretty ones are the ones that are forced and brainwashed as being Chinese when actually they are 100% Altaic. HAHAHAHA. dumb communists
ryunbaik 2 years ago
They are Chinese for hundreds/thousands of years before communism.
77intern 2 years ago 14
good point brother
finestfresh 2 years ago
Chinese is a nationality, I don't recall there being a altaic nationality...
FyzikalKemizt 2 years ago
Chinese are a multi-ethnic group oppressed together to be called Chinese. The only real Chinese are the Han Chinese.
ryunbaik 2 years ago
Some northern Chinese minorities are of Tungusic and Altaic origin, but since they live within the border of PRC and have assumed the Chinese nationality, they are legitimately Chinese, of course they may not associate with other remote Chinese minorities or the Han, but they do recognize the consanguinity of the entire native population of PRC. There is nothing wrong in promoting unity without being seditious and xenophobic.
FyzikalKemizt 2 years ago
The term would be "Forced" to be called Chinese. To this day, Mongolia, Turk, Korean and Tibetians ask for independance and their land back which was once theirs. Sorry mate, i really don'nt understand communist logic, it makes no sense. Brainwashing and oppresions don't work. Culture is stronger than anything. Unity is here in the USA where people have freedom.
ryunbaik 2 years ago
I respect your opinions. Provincial independence is inconceivable for PRC which has a strong oligarchic government and is single-minded in its concern for territorial integrity and political projections, it's not a communist logic, but a geopolitical one, it applies to USA as well. Lincoln didn't countenance the secession of the Confederacy and it resulted in civil war, notwithstanding the US is a democracy. Different cultures can coexist in a nation, and we are all "brainwashed" to some extent
FyzikalKemizt 2 years ago
The Confederates did not share different culture, only different political views. They shared the same culture, "Johnny Apple Seed, Tom Sawyer, George Washington, etc." It is totally different from China. US did not date back to any different roots, rather, it was founded by the British and migrated through freedom. No on oppressed the immigrants to stay, they chose to stay. Uyghurs, Tibetians and Mongols were conquered. The same logic does not apply. US withdrew from Puerto Rico and Phillipines
ryunbaik 2 years ago
I was emphasizing the firm policy of any nation to uphold its territorial integrity and political projections, regardless of cultural dissimilarities within its border. According to your inference, European descendants in USA should pack their bags and move back to Europe, since Native Americans were the primordial owners of the land, but were vanquished by imperialistic European colonists. The US-Philippines and USSR issues are too complicated and tedious to discuss here.
FyzikalKemizt 2 years ago
I was pointing out to superpowers role in modern times. In the past, there isn't a country that hasn't commited outrageous crimes. Education was low, with no appreciation towards anthropology. I'm guessing you are implying China's mentality is as good as when Brits first colonized America. This is 2009, not 1700's. Japan started a devastating war, killed many Chinese and Korean. I'm sure most Asian countries want US millitary to supervise them, hell i still do.
ryunbaik 2 years ago
Also, Russia withdrew from East Europe, thus, Poland, Slavic countries, etc. gained their independance. Many modern civilized countries (superpowers) are releasing their method of oppression. Germany for example, though they started the WWII, had US and Russian troops withdrawn from them. They do not belong to anyone but Germans themselves. Japan is partially occupied, but enjoys their own culture and independance from the US. Don't you agree?
ryunbaik 2 years ago
Germany was a well established Reich before WW2, of course it belongs to the Germans. Today, Japan is partially "occupied" by US military personnel prescribed by a treaty of mutual interests. Are Japanese enjoying themselves? I don't know, especially when Japan has one of the world's highest suicide rates.
FyzikalKemizt 2 years ago
I showed u great examples of why US respected Phillipines decision & Puerto Ricos. Puerto Rico is independant, but granted citizenship of the US, exactly how they demanded it. Hawaii joined in open arms without resistance. Korea wants US millitary to stay to supervise China and North Korea, but still enjoys independance. This is modern diplomacy, not the colonial period. Your same logic with China does not make sense. Different cultures in China are asking for independance answered in oppression
ryunbaik 2 years ago
and which ethnic in 3: 02..??
TheTanggang 2 years ago