i dunno why you guys respect kanazawa so much in kata terms.... i mean he could be an example as a master but he sucks doing katas... i mean slow movements,unbalance betwen legs and arms at the end of each movement, he doesnt look to where he is moving before he moves(facial expression) etc..
what i mean with this comment is if you wanna learn the moves of this kata yeah you could learn them by watching his videos but for competion purposes please find another example to follow
i dunno why you guys respect kanazawa so much in kata terms.... i mean he could be an example as a master but he sucks doing katas... i mean slow movements,unbalance betwen legs and arms at the end of each movement, he doesnt look to where he is moving before he moves(facial expression) etc..
what i mean with this comment is if you wanna learn the moves of this kata yeah you could learn them by watching his videos but for competion purposes please find another example to follow
You have once again demonstrated your pure knowledge of Karatedo which is corrupted by a narraw minded brain.Good Luck with your developement ,which will be very slow from what we have learnt.You will never be like Kancho Kanazawa,will never ever reach his knowledge,wisdom and e.t.c I have had the firtune of been with Kancho Kanazawa,Abe Shihan,Osaka Shihan,Kasuya Shihan and Naka Shihan.
@Tonducha IN shotokan this is goju shi ho sho. Apparently in other styles they are switched. no matter. It is a wicked cool kata. Has anyone else read Bill Burgers 5 Years One Kata? He takes this kata apart move by move. It is not the standard way of looking at this kata (rather shall we say "historical") but it is very pragmatic and useful.
gojushiho dai and sho switches places in shotokan sometimes.
Its a funny story actually.
It traces back to a demo where a very high ranking shotokan JKA guy made a mistake. He called out Dai, but did Sho (or if it was called ot Sho and did Dai).
Rather than calling him out on his mistake, several of his juniors assumed he was doing it right and they had it wrong, and changed the names of the kata themself. As a result many still use the "reverse" naming.
i thing that is diferent, depends of the school each sensei have his own style, if you can see luca valdesi and this sensei is the same kata but wiht alot differents moves......
Kata: GojuShiho-Sho/Dai in different federations has inverted names... Ex. in Jka,wkf,wkc,wuko..it's called GojuShiho-Dai but here Shihan Kanazawa calls it: GojuShiho-Sho,there is nothing wrong with it. In fact these two Katas are very similar...the name of the Kata comes from its difficulty level ex: heyan shodan>nidan>sandan,pinan shodan>nidan>sandan...but these two are at the same level,and i think everyone should accept this little name change :)
I do not "talk on high", I am not condescending. I am stating what is obvious, and historically correct. Strikes were changed to blocks, and the hand strikes were changed in their configurations. Since the original ancient methods were changed, therefore anyone can change anything. What he is doing is not the original methods, but sanatized for competition. The "back stance" is a worthless stance, fudo dachi is taken from the "Noh" plays and are more for visual rather than combat. Free your mind
The question is not hard to answer whatsoever. I am stating what is obvious to those who don't engage in idol worshiping. Why is there such anger when I criticise Kanazawa from an empirical viewpoint. My, "rank, status, credentials" ect have no bearing on the matter. It is not up to me to have to "prove" anything, only to those who take the opposite tack to respond to the statements. Rank is meaningless. There was no rank until Funakoshi wanted to "Nipponize" karate and gave out belts.
I guess the real question here Frankie is on what basis do you make your comments? What benchmark do you start from? Why is this such a hard question for you to answer?
Frank, I do not believe I said it was wrong to see things differently in fact we should all be allowed to challenge what we do not understand or agree with. However you seem to talk from on high without shedding light on your own position. Of course you are allowed your own opinion but you speak as someone 'in the know'. We merely ask you to furnish us with information regarding your rank/status/grade/style whatever, so that we may better judge your comments in their true light.
the arguments over which is Dai and which is Sho are really like which side of an egg should be broken! Liberate yourselves from this nonsense! Funakoshi is to blame for this watering down of Karate Do. It was he who said that one should be a generalist, and not to go too deeply! How can one respond with moves when they now practice so many kata? Originally students learned one, or two at the most. He created false kata such as Tekki two and three. It takes a lifetime to really learn just one!
Frankvanqueens I have read your posts with interest but you have yet to offer any information regarding your own credentials. At 46 I have been training for 40 years now with a variety of arts and merely seek to understand where your dislike of Kanazawa originates from. On what experience or knowledge do you base these comments. We are all allowed our own thoughts and feelings on matters but given your approach some history concerning yourself may help some here understand your motives further.
A truly childish and immature answer. One must learn to grow in the arts, not just parrot. Idol worshiping is NOT karate do! One must open one's mind and seek to fill the void with true knowledge, not just accept at face value what one is told. This is what leads to strife in the world. Using your logic, one can therefore never criticise ANY endeavour. We cannot put people on pedestals. Empty your cup, and let me fill it! The emptiness is the usefullness!
Sì davvero. E nel caso lo fosse ciò non toglie che il Gojushiho sho di Luca Valdesi nei mondiali in Olanda sia fatto estremamente meglio. Chi lo sa. Avranno altri canoni di valutazione per determinare che sto qua è 10° Dan. Magari rompe un muro con una testata :D
che valdesi sia bravo non cè dubbio, ma secondo kanazawa è più fluido, "circolare". valdesi è esplosivo ma scattoso, lui invece è più armonioso. il decimo dan cmq è un titolo eminentemente onorifico che si dà non perchè si abbattono muri a testate ma per aver innovato o aver dato un contributo particolare all arte marziale e lo conferisce l imperatore.funacosci è morto 5 dan cmq
grazie a te, cmq se voui vedere quello che secondo me è un buon esempio di karate shotokan cerca in youtube il video "japan military karate shotokan". anche io pratico cmq questo stile e sono secondo dan
Il kata fatto da Valdesi rispetto a questo di Kanazawa è patetico, a partire dal modo incomprensibile di enunciarne il nome. Non c'è confronto tra la solidità la fluidità e la precsione di kanazawa, che comuqnue nei video ha una certa età, e la performance di valdesi, che si mangia il nome del kata, si mangia tecniche e molto altro: c'è un abisso concettuale ed esecutivo incolmabile a ovvio favore di kanazawa ^_^
ho visto delle rappresentazioni del gojushiho-sho molto ben fatte, ma questa non mi convince più di tanto, non fraintendete non sto dicendo che è fatto male solo che non mi sembra fatto benissimo. Chiederò al mio Sensei
if he is not a 10 dan then what is he? are you silly? he is one of the few in the world holding a 10 th dan degree. enoeda was 9th dan. if you are not sure then dont say something stupid
This guy maybe jiu dan, no one really knows but evidence (how black his belt is as opposed to white because after a belt is worn long enough it turns white) shows that he has not practiced that long.
Yer i think hes silly, some ppl seem to think tht cos his stance doesnt touch the ground or the fact u can still see his hands move means hes rubbish, these ppl need to get a grip, he got his 10th dan for a reson
because Sensei mixed up the names one time and said it if front of many students so the names were never corrected, we were talking about this just a few months ago, someone said exactly who it was that said it wrong, but I forget who.
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i dunno why you guys respect kanazawa so much in kata terms.... i mean he could be an example as a master but he sucks doing katas... i mean slow movements,unbalance betwen legs and arms at the end of each movement, he doesnt look to where he is moving before he moves(facial expression) etc..
what i mean with this comment is if you wanna learn the moves of this kata yeah you could learn them by watching his videos but for competion purposes please find another example to follow
oss
xxsteve0xx1 11 months ago
i dunno why you guys respect kanazawa so much in kata terms.... i mean he could be an example as a master but he sucks doing katas... i mean slow movements,unbalance betwen legs and arms at the end of each movement, he doesnt look to where he is moving before he moves(facial expression) etc..
what i mean with this comment is if you wanna learn the moves of this kata yeah you could learn them by watching his videos but for competion purposes please find another example to follow
oss sensei
xxsteve0xx1 11 months ago
This comment of yours is absolute rubbish.I can not even respond to it,because it has no basis of knowledge.
SKIFTIGER 11 months ago
@SKIFTIGER sure dude i bet you are yellow belt
xxsteve0xx1 11 months ago
You have once again demonstrated your pure knowledge of Karatedo which is corrupted by a narraw minded brain.Good Luck with your developement ,which will be very slow from what we have learnt.You will never be like Kancho Kanazawa,will never ever reach his knowledge,wisdom and e.t.c I have had the firtune of been with Kancho Kanazawa,Abe Shihan,Osaka Shihan,Kasuya Shihan and Naka Shihan.
SKIFTIGER 11 months ago
@SKIFTIGER congratulations to you lol if you READ my coment i talk about competition purposes....
you think this guy is a good nodel for that? dont make me lauth...
xxsteve0xx1 11 months ago
Este katá é o Gojushiho-Dai. O enunciado está errado, informando que é o Gojushiho-Sho!
Jadilsonk 1 year ago
@Jadilsonk dependendo da organização, os nomes são trocados.
RToad 1 year ago
that is goju shi ho DAI!! no SHO
Tonducha 1 year ago
@Tonducha IN shotokan this is goju shi ho sho. Apparently in other styles they are switched. no matter. It is a wicked cool kata. Has anyone else read Bill Burgers 5 Years One Kata? He takes this kata apart move by move. It is not the standard way of looking at this kata (rather shall we say "historical") but it is very pragmatic and useful.
ajnosder 1 year ago
whats the difference between this and gojushiho dai?
pochazet 1 year ago
this is gojushio dai... isn't it?
musley93 2 years ago 2
gojushiho dai and sho switches places in shotokan sometimes.
Its a funny story actually.
It traces back to a demo where a very high ranking shotokan JKA guy made a mistake. He called out Dai, but did Sho (or if it was called ot Sho and did Dai).
Rather than calling him out on his mistake, several of his juniors assumed he was doing it right and they had it wrong, and changed the names of the kata themself. As a result many still use the "reverse" naming.
kolsyrade 2 years ago 7
thanks for the clarification!!!
musley93 2 years ago
SKIF= gojushiho sho
JKA= gojushiho dai
pilchoice 2 years ago
it is if you're from an association that doesnthave a numpty muddle their words up and pass it off as being correct lol.
oh those silly proud japs, he should have committed seppuka if he was that embarrassed!
shotokanbiker 2 years ago
I also do shotokan, this is infact gojushiho sho
PappeH 2 years ago
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Colotelemusician 2 years ago
i thing that is diferent, depends of the school each sensei have his own style, if you can see luca valdesi and this sensei is the same kata but wiht alot differents moves......
jolieladyp 2 years ago
don't you mean NIHHONIZE
shotokan2k9 2 years ago
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Kata: GojuShiho-Sho/Dai in different federations has inverted names... Ex. in Jka,wkf,wkc,wuko..it's called GojuShiho-Dai but here Shihan Kanazawa calls it: GojuShiho-Sho,there is nothing wrong with it. In fact these two Katas are very similar...the name of the Kata comes from its difficulty level ex: heyan shodan>nidan>sandan,pinan shodan>nidan>sandan...but these two are at the same level,and i think everyone should accept this little name change :)
dobermannbrother 2 years ago
in SKIF, this is gojushiho sho
gigigigilee 3 years ago 2
its not gojushi ho sho but dai
shtitman 3 years ago 2
i do gojushiho completely different
Nesszors 3 years ago
he messed up he posted the video thinking it was a different kata
shotokankarate1906 3 years ago
In the SKIF (Shotokan Karate International Federation), the club he started, Gojushiho Sho and Dai are switched.
BKKokesh 2 years ago
I do not "talk on high", I am not condescending. I am stating what is obvious, and historically correct. Strikes were changed to blocks, and the hand strikes were changed in their configurations. Since the original ancient methods were changed, therefore anyone can change anything. What he is doing is not the original methods, but sanatized for competition. The "back stance" is a worthless stance, fudo dachi is taken from the "Noh" plays and are more for visual rather than combat. Free your mind
frankvanqueens 3 years ago
The question is not hard to answer whatsoever. I am stating what is obvious to those who don't engage in idol worshiping. Why is there such anger when I criticise Kanazawa from an empirical viewpoint. My, "rank, status, credentials" ect have no bearing on the matter. It is not up to me to have to "prove" anything, only to those who take the opposite tack to respond to the statements. Rank is meaningless. There was no rank until Funakoshi wanted to "Nipponize" karate and gave out belts.
frankvanqueens 3 years ago
I guess the real question here Frankie is on what basis do you make your comments? What benchmark do you start from? Why is this such a hard question for you to answer?
TRIUMPHBONNIEVILLE75 3 years ago
Frank, I do not believe I said it was wrong to see things differently in fact we should all be allowed to challenge what we do not understand or agree with. However you seem to talk from on high without shedding light on your own position. Of course you are allowed your own opinion but you speak as someone 'in the know'. We merely ask you to furnish us with information regarding your rank/status/grade/style whatever, so that we may better judge your comments in their true light.
TRIUMPHBONNIEVILLE75 3 years ago
the arguments over which is Dai and which is Sho are really like which side of an egg should be broken! Liberate yourselves from this nonsense! Funakoshi is to blame for this watering down of Karate Do. It was he who said that one should be a generalist, and not to go too deeply! How can one respond with moves when they now practice so many kata? Originally students learned one, or two at the most. He created false kata such as Tekki two and three. It takes a lifetime to really learn just one!
frankvanqueens 3 years ago
Frankvanqueens I have read your posts with interest but you have yet to offer any information regarding your own credentials. At 46 I have been training for 40 years now with a variety of arts and merely seek to understand where your dislike of Kanazawa originates from. On what experience or knowledge do you base these comments. We are all allowed our own thoughts and feelings on matters but given your approach some history concerning yourself may help some here understand your motives further.
TRIUMPHBONNIEVILLE75 3 years ago
A truly childish and immature answer. One must learn to grow in the arts, not just parrot. Idol worshiping is NOT karate do! One must open one's mind and seek to fill the void with true knowledge, not just accept at face value what one is told. This is what leads to strife in the world. Using your logic, one can therefore never criticise ANY endeavour. We cannot put people on pedestals. Empty your cup, and let me fill it! The emptiness is the usefullness!
frankvanqueens 3 years ago
makes me proud of my shihan and my up bringing...
delithix 3 years ago
Whoops screw my last comment. I think this us dai now but used to be sho.
mikey2357 3 years ago
This is definitely gojushiho sho. This is how i've learnt it anyway.
mikey2357 3 years ago
meu cu arda
eusoucolorado 3 years ago
THAT IS GOJUSHIHO DAI!!!!
thekingofmuaythai666 3 years ago 3
In SKIF - Shotokan Karate International Federation - is Gojushiho Sho. The title is OK.
orbelus 3 years ago 5
that´s interesting... I will search for information about it.
Thanx
thekingofmuaythai666 3 years ago
o è troppo giovane per esserlo, oppure il portera benissimo i suoi almeno80 anni per essere 10 dan
hanawaN1 3 years ago
non ci credo che è decimo dan.
hanawaN1 3 years ago
Sì davvero. E nel caso lo fosse ciò non toglie che il Gojushiho sho di Luca Valdesi nei mondiali in Olanda sia fatto estremamente meglio. Chi lo sa. Avranno altri canoni di valutazione per determinare che sto qua è 10° Dan. Magari rompe un muro con una testata :D
GueroOnTheDeck 3 years ago
che valdesi sia bravo non cè dubbio, ma secondo kanazawa è più fluido, "circolare". valdesi è esplosivo ma scattoso, lui invece è più armonioso. il decimo dan cmq è un titolo eminentemente onorifico che si dà non perchè si abbattono muri a testate ma per aver innovato o aver dato un contributo particolare all arte marziale e lo conferisce l imperatore.funacosci è morto 5 dan cmq
jacopo00 3 years ago
Grazie per la risposta, davvero. E' raro trovare qualcuno che risponda competentemente ed educatamente a qualcun'altro.
GueroOnTheDeck 3 years ago
grazie a te, cmq se voui vedere quello che secondo me è un buon esempio di karate shotokan cerca in youtube il video "japan military karate shotokan". anche io pratico cmq questo stile e sono secondo dan
jacopo00 3 years ago
Il kata fatto da Valdesi rispetto a questo di Kanazawa è patetico, a partire dal modo incomprensibile di enunciarne il nome. Non c'è confronto tra la solidità la fluidità e la precsione di kanazawa, che comuqnue nei video ha una certa età, e la performance di valdesi, che si mangia il nome del kata, si mangia tecniche e molto altro: c'è un abisso concettuale ed esecutivo incolmabile a ovvio favore di kanazawa ^_^
DimMaK2 3 years ago
Can anyone tell me how old Shihan Hirokazu Kanazawa is?
orenciojames2 3 years ago
in the video i dont know how old he is but now hes like 72 or older
ilovethisGERL 3 years ago
strepitoso veramente bellissimo...mi sta venendo voglia di iscrivermi a karate
ccput71 3 years ago
este video es muy bueno para el que entiende el krate shotkan y lo comprende en todo su diciplina como el maestro kanazawa
goodwillsn 3 years ago
ho visto delle rappresentazioni del gojushiho-sho molto ben fatte, ma questa non mi convince più di tanto, non fraintendete non sto dicendo che è fatto male solo che non mi sembra fatto benissimo. Chiederò al mio Sensei
musley93 3 years ago
non è decimo dan e sicuramente le posizioni le faccio meglio io che sono cintura blu
Caramellinapicciola 4 years ago
if he is not a 10 dan then what is he? are you silly? he is one of the few in the world holding a 10 th dan degree. enoeda was 9th dan. if you are not sure then dont say something stupid
jion080981 4 years ago
This guy maybe jiu dan, no one really knows but evidence (how black his belt is as opposed to white because after a belt is worn long enough it turns white) shows that he has not practiced that long.
ctrainyu 3 years ago
Yer i think hes silly, some ppl seem to think tht cos his stance doesnt touch the ground or the fact u can still see his hands move means hes rubbish, these ppl need to get a grip, he got his 10th dan for a reson
Zipidy2k6 3 years ago
isso eh gojushiho dai =/
brunobiancucci 4 years ago
For ISKF/JKA this is Gojushiho Dai, but for SKIF this is Gojushiho Sho
rbogarin 5 years ago
thanks
HELLNO10 5 years ago
isto é gojushiho dai?
is this gojushiho dai
HELLNO10 5 years ago
In SKIF (Shotokan Karate International Federation) Gojushiho Dai is Gojushiho Sho and Gojushiho Sho is Dai, diferent JKA and others organizations.
orbelus 5 years ago
Do you kwon why it is so?
Karatedo94 4 years ago
because Sensei mixed up the names one time and said it if front of many students so the names were never corrected, we were talking about this just a few months ago, someone said exactly who it was that said it wrong, but I forget who.
tuff234 3 years ago
no it is gojushiho sho.
jion080981 4 years ago